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Custom Vehicle Discussions => Screamin’ Eagle® Ultra Classic® Electra Glide® => Topic started by: JDOFLHRIDER on August 13, 2010, 08:47:24 PM
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You will need 69911-11 and 70933-10 and pages 1thru 3 posted below.TOOLS NEEDED 1)SMALL NEEDLENOSE PLYERS,2)REALLY SMALL DRILL ,PAPERCLIP OR JEWELERS SCREW DRIVER,3) BLACK TAPE ,4) WIRE TIES 1)YOU NEED TO TAKE SEAT OFF AND TOUPACK LINER OUT. 2)NEXT UNPLUG TAIL LIGHT PLUG AT REAR OF TOURPAC. (SHOULD BE 7 WIRES BLACK,VIOLET,AND BLUE.) THIS IS PLUG YOU HAVE TO REALIGN WIRES IN. 3) DISASSEMBLE TAILIGHT PLUG ,USE SMALL NEEDLE NOSE TO CLICK PULL WHITE CENTER OUT IN TAILIGHT PLUG ,IT JUST COMES OUT A LITTLE TO UNLOCK . THEN USE A SMALL ROUND TOOL(PAPER CLIP,JEWELER SCREWDRIVER,OR DRILL) TO PUSH IN ROUND HOLE IN PLUG TO RELEASE THE WIRE, DO TO ALL THE WIRES IN THE PLUG. 4) WHEN WIRES ARE OUT OF THE PLUG YOU NEED TO TEST AND MARK LEFT , RIGHT,AND MIDDLE SO YOU CAN REALIGN BACK IN PLUG .HARLEY PAGE 2-5 I COPIED AND MARKED #1 THE PICTURE OF PLUG IS FROM REAR. (WIRES SHOULD SNAP BACK IN) 5) FEED MODULE WIRES THRU TOUR PAK (I TAPED MINE TO FEED OUT OF LEFT SIDE SO I COULD PUT MODULE IN BUMP OF LINER) 6 )TAKE Y HARNESS AND PART LOOSE PLUG ON IT AND MATCH WIRE COLORS TO EACH OTHER (except yellow to red,white to blue or no wire) ,WIRES SHOULD CLICK IN DO NOT FORCE. 7 ) INSTALL Y HARNESS AND POSISION WIRING TO TOURPAK AND IN TOURPAK AND PLUG TAILIGHTS IN. YOU MIGHT HAVE TO USE LINER TO FIND RIGHT SPOT FOR MODULE, 8)WIRE TIE AND TEST GOOD LUCK JDO
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2011 PG 5 Last page of both 2010 and 2011 kits part 69911-11 looks the part that makes turn signals on our 2010 seuc's
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Has anybody tried to get the harness yet? I have a crimper that allows me to make my own "factory style" wiring -maybe this is something we could figure out and make on our own? Or is the feed harness from the bike different too?
I've looked at the similar "magic converter" product from customdynamics, and I think they require the installation of a run/turn/brake conversion module to make their harness work. I wonder if something like that is needed here for the 2010s too? I don't know enough about the new '11 SEUC lights/turn signals to make any guesses yet... The customdynamics part is at:
http://www.customdynamics.com/hd_tour_pak_led_lighting.htm#Magic™_Converter_for_Harley_Davidson®_Tour_Pak®_
It would be nice to make the T-Pak side lights into run/turn lights too. It looks like the customdynamics harness allows that function.
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part doesn't show up yet,I was gonna match a 2010 and 2011 parts book to see if same part. disclaimer on above part (previous reply) says won't work on S E led tourpak lights.I know leds are harder to work with.
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Thanks for the info -looks like I missed the (not so) fine print on the customdynamics website! :( And TIA for any additional information you can come up with for the HD approach.
I never understood to begin with why HD didn't come out with run/turn/brake on the two LED lights next to the center brake light. I guess this way they get to sell us more stuff! ???
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I had the shop install the run/brake/turn module on my scooter and the shop pigtailed two wires to the tour pack lights and they now blink w/the turn signals. not so bright in the day but great at night. I think it's just run two wires and done. They charged me 1/2 hour labor so for me no brainer.
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i talked to a guy that uses a micro proccessor to work leds flashing ,I'm wonder if harley hardwires or uses a micro processor.when i get more info i'll update.
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I used an item from Custom Dynamics to make my corner tour pack lights work as turnsignals as well as still be running lights. Since the LED's are not like a dual element bulb, they are not bright during the day as turnsignals.
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I used an item from Custom Dynamics to make my corner tour pack lights work as turnsignals as well as still be running lights. Since the LED's are not like a dual element bulb, they are not bright during the day as turnsignals.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT ITEM IT WAS???????????????
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I used an item from Custom Dynamics to make my corner tour pack lights work as turnsignals as well as still be running lights. Since the LED's are not like a dual element bulb, they are not bright during the day as turnsignals.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT ITEM IT WAS???????????????
Custom Dynamics item # EPZ (Eclipse Module)-takes 2-one per side.
Click on "Cycle products" from their website and scroll down about 3/4 way down the page.
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Has anyone seen an '11 SEUC in person? I looked at the 360 degree views of the bike on the HD website, and the rear turnsignals appear to have amber lenses on them still. So the MoCo must not be using a run/turn/brake module, and must be doing something different? ???
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Has anyone seen an '11 SEUC in person? I looked at the 360 degree views of the bike on the HD website, and the rear turnsignals appear to have amber lenses on them still. So the MoCo must not be using a run/turn/brake module, and must be doing something different? ???
The lighting on the 11's is the same as our 10's..
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Has anyone seen an '11 SEUC in person? I looked at the 360 degree views of the bike on the HD website, and the rear turnsignals appear to have amber lenses on them still. So the MoCo must not be using a run/turn/brake module, and must be doing something different? ???
The run/turn/brake module comes with the red lenses (get the one that matches your amber lens size) and the plug and play module, then splice into it and run wires to your tour pac lights. OR
2010 CVO™ Ultra Classic® > > Lighting
Tour-Pak® Brake Light/Running Light/Turn Signal Conversion Kit
Turn signal module adds an auxiliary brake light and turn signal function to your Original Equipment Tour-Pak® rear lighting. Red lenses glow when the headlamp is on, and increase in intensity when brakes or turn signals are activated. Easy-to-install, the kit simply plugs into your existing wiring harness.
69200042
Fits '97-later models equipped with Ultra-style Tour-Pak® luggage.
MSRP US $54.95
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FWIW, the p/n's for the center, left, and right red LED assemblies are different in this kit from those on the 2010 CVO Ultra. Not necessarily definitive, but suggestive that to replicate the turn signal and brake light brightness of the accessory kit on a '10 CVO Ultra will require more than a wiring modification.
Carl
Edit: I deleted the reference to "module" after reading the directions for 67931-11/67932-11 (TP wrap around LED Kit) and the service parts list/pictures to see that there isn't a "module"--the module refers to a wiring harness that connects to a splitter/Y-harness that is installed between the bike's rear light connectors.
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I used 69911-11 and made my own y adapter and removed wires in stock tourpak led plug and put back in plug as directions .Remember pic's for wire placement are from rear of plug .lights look great brake and turn. jdo
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For convenience, here is the installation instruction sheet for the tour pak wrap-around LED light kits, p/n's 67931-11 and 67932-11:
http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Media/downloads/Service/isheets/-J05090.pdf
Carl
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I used 69911-11 and made my own y adapter and removed wires in stock tourpak led plug and put back in plug as directions .Remember pic's for wire placement are from rear of plug .lights look great brake and turn. jdo
jdo, do you have the specifics on your "own y adapter" and what actually you did to make it work?
Larry
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I bought parts from harley and assembled y plug to plug under seat like harley did. I'm in the process of assembling more y plugs and maybee selling kits. jdo
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Like to do this to my 010 CVO but, until I can find a way to brighten up the lamps when flashing, I do not see the point.
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I think we need 69911-11 to make turn signals work on our2010's here's both kits .
go to ride time technology hey have what you need
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Like to do this to my 010 CVO but, until I can find a way to brighten up the lamps when flashing, I do not see the point.
Lights flash bright and works good using earlier part number and self assembled y from hd plug parts.
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go to ride time technology hey have what you need
IMHO I have the best of all worlds with my tour pak lights.
I have this set up from Ride Time Technology.
http://www.ridetimetechnology.com/tp_rtupro.htm
The $54.95 kit that Harley sells only adds the turn signal function to the running and brake function of the tour pak lights.
I helped install 2 sets of the Harley kit this past weekend and did notice a few things that were odd.
To me it seems odd that making your tour pak lights fully functional would also include 4 way flasher capability with this kit. But it doesn't.
Also on the two kits installed this weekend they were originally set up to run the lower turn signals as tail lights. With this tour pak turn signal kit that
feature no longer works.
But back to mine from Ride Time, these are an LED board so they are brighter than stock. They also allow the tour pak lights to be used with the 4 way flashers.
The Ride Time lights also work with the Harley system so my lower turn signals are also running and brake lights.
IMHO, this is much better/brighter than the $54.95 Harley kit!
SBB
And running the 4 way flashers in parade duty it's very impressive with all those lights back there!
SBB
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I think were talking about 2 things .Leds tour pak light has no kit yet,Harley sells a light with all the functions. On my SEUC 10 I had leds with just brakes.I looked at light kit for both lights and found a y link and module only difference .I bought module part#69911-11 and had to make y link (harley doesn't sell) and re align plug wires to match up properly ,lights work great flash leds bright. jdo
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I still can't understand how the led lights on the 010 tour pack can be brighter then they are as running lights, unless the voltage to the led is increased, or the electronics on the board is reduced. How do you get the led lights to brighten up to match the center brake light?
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I still can't understand how the led lights on the 010 tour pack can be brighter then they are as running lights, unless the voltage to the led is increased, or the electronics on the board is reduced. How do you get the led lights to brighten up to match the center brake light?
the 69911-11 has a module that some how brightens lights ,they can do trick things with leds that I don't understand quite yet.When I get a chance I'll post a pic with brake lights on. jdo
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Also on the two kits installed this weekend they were originally set up to run the lower turn signals as tail lights. With this tour pak turn signal kit that
feature no longer works.
I installed the HD tour pak turn signal conversion kit, p/n 7600042, and didn't lose any function from the turn signal run/brake/turn signal module (i.e. the turn signals operate as run, brake, and turn signals). In my installation, the Y-splitter for the tour pak conversion kit is installed ahead of the splitter/module for the turn signals. Perhaps the two kits installed that you reference were installed differently and that would account for the loss of function at the turn signals. Otherwise, I have no idea why the tour pak conversion kit would effect the turn signal module on those installations but not mine or a couple of others that I know of.
Carl
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I see the module in the 69911-11 kit could do the trick. I sure would like to know more about how you hooked it up and the y harness you made up. I would like to do the same to my 010 CVO. Any more information would be appreciated.
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I would like to see a picture of what comes in the 69911-11 kit. I can not find this kit on HD's website??
Also would like to see the instructions. Any help appreciated.
Ok-I now see that the 69911-11 is a wiring module that comes in 2 different kits. Also saw in the 2nd set of instructions about the end lights being turn also. Thanks JDO..
Started to get confusing is that we are all talking about several different things. Would be nice to make the upper turnlights brite.
JDO-if you can make a few y adapters, please let us know. What is list price on the 69911-11 wiring module?
Thanks, Bob
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brake lights on
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69911-11 is 59.95,other parts close to 20.00 I was thinking of putting kits for sale 100.00 plus shipping with instructions along with tricks to get tailight plug apart. jdo
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I'll be your first customer. Just tell me when
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Part #13 is the Y harness. Not sold separately. In the delaer on Sat had many guys stumped trying to find solution. Need harley to seel the Y harness offered in the LED kit. They do sell the conversion kit but on the box it stated bulb lights only.
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I have made y-harness and have kits with instructions. jdo
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JDO,
If you have conversion kits available, I would like to purchase one, let me know how you would like to finalize the purchase?
Thanks
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I have made y-harness and have kits with instructions. jdo
Hey JDO,
:orange: You've got my attention. I'm very interested in completing this project.
thanks,
jim :coolblue:
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Ok, I'm in when will you have the kits.
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I have made y-harness and have kits with instructions. jdo
Send me a PM with your Paypal address (or how you prefer to get paid) and the amount.
V/r
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Have one kit ready should have 2 more ready next week ,hd back-ordered modules. jdo
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Just let me know how much and how to pay you?
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Couple shipped and couple ready to ship. This is a after install reply ( Got the kit installed, and it works great. Getting the pins out of the connector too some messing around with a paper clip, but got them out and back in, I see what you mean that the wiring of the pins was not logical, but with the information from the Harley kit I got it right. The y connector plugged right in and worked first time up. Thanks again)
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Couple shipped and couple ready to ship. This is a after install reply ( Got the kit installed, and it works great. Getting the pins out of the connector too some messing around with a paper clip, but got them out and back in, I see what you mean that the wiring of the pins was not logical, but with the information from the Harley kit I got it right. The y connector plugged right in and worked first time up. Thanks again)
Folks,
This is a must upgrade thanks to Jeff. Got it operational and works great. I will get a video up sometime tomorrow. Couple of notes on the molex connector:
1. Don't forget to unlock the pins by pulling out the internal white plastic piece with needle nose pliers. I forgot to do this and wasted 2 hours because of it.
2. Sewing needle or paper clip works great. I filed the paperclip end to a point and worked like a charm.
Only other question I had for Jeff was at the 6-pin connector, the HD directions show 6 wires but you only have 5 wires to connect ... no white wire.
Again, thanks Jeff ... I see loads of orders coming your way.
V/r
George
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Here is the final results after complete:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERgK_PGyu9U
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2 more shipped and 2 ready found a drill set at sears to help with plug realignment.
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Yup...This is what I want. The video was the clincher; it puts everything into something I can understand. Thanks George...and JDO, I will be contactinbg you soon. Good Xmas gift!!!
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Works as advertised. Thanks for the homework and effort to provide this kit for us Jeff.
One tip. Regarding the rewire of the tourpack tailight plug that the module plugs into-you only have to reverse 2 ground wires.
One row of the plug has 4 wires-3 violet for run lights and a blue wire for brake lights-Leave all these wires alone.
The other row has 3 black wires and a white filler plug. Remove the two outside black ground wires and swap them with each other. Leave the white filler plug and the other black wire alone. Now you are done and works as it should.
At first, I did nothing to the plug and hooked up and figured I would blow a fuse. Everything worked but when you put either turnsignal on, the other would flash as well. Basically when you swap the two end black wires,they are using the ground of the opposite end light to make everything work.
I wish I could take the credit for this easy 2 wire swap, but looked in the SE service manual supplement and the instructions provided with the module did all the thinking/clarification.
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All the parts are in kits ,only thing you need is a few small tools and electric grease, thanks jdo
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JDO
Got the kit and all is well.
Thanks again..
jim :coolblue:
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JDO,
Thanks for the time & effort you put into this excellent upgrade,
BOATMAN, thank you for the wiring addendum tip.
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Ok, I'm not sure I understand - I have been known to be thick at times. Do the 2011 bikes have turn signals or just the run/brake lights?
If just the run/brake lights I may have to order one of these as soon as I get my bike. I like the idea of having the turn signals up high on the tour pak. It works with the stock LED's?
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All of the 2011's that I have seen have run brake lights,this kit makes the stock leds lights run,turn and brake like in video.thanks jdo
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JDOFLHRIDER - Just wanted to say thanks for sharing this upgrade. I purchased the module and made the Y connector. Much better than the stock set up. For the amount of time it took me to make the Y connector your price for the kit is very fair. Not to mention the hour I spent trying to figure out the wiring to get the brake lights to work. Thanks
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Jeff
Thanks for the kit, received it today. Got it working after figuring how to pull the locking mechanism of the 8 pin connector in the tour pack. Found it in the wife's 2009 service manual. Seems you have to insert your tool of choice and then pull it out slowly till the lock releases.
Looks great, Thanks for your help.
Rich
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All orders shipped and couple kits ready,thanks to all jdo
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Just placed an order for a set.
I can't wait to get this thing. I was in the dealer on Saturday and just for grins I asked them how I could get the turn signals to work up high on the tour pack. They looked in books, went in the back room and about 40 minutes later came back and said it can't be done. ;D
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Just placed an order for a set.
I can't wait to get this thing. I was in the dealer on Saturday and just for grins I asked them how I could get the turn signals to work up high on the tour pack. They looked in books, went in the back room and about 40 minutes later came back and said it can't be done. ;D
Thats figures I use all Harley parts just have to assemble harness. jdo
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JDO, saw your message string and am wondering if there's a way to adapt an 09 FLHTCUSE tour pack tail light assembly to the LED version on the 2010 and newer models. Is there? Thanks
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JDO, saw your message string and am wondering if there's a way to adapt an 09 FLHTCUSE tour pack tail light assembly to the LED version on the 2010 and newer models. Is there? Thanks
Is this what you're looking for?
http://www.harley-davidson.com/gma/gma_product.jsp?WebLogicSession=NTp0lc3SOfJYUMvAI1vzz9njD6d5W35kc91BN7WUMqyFXWD0ivc7!182099217!hiwpbmsp04.ihd.hd!7005!8005&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524448774741&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302491575&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374302491575&bmUID=1293117880884&bmLocale=en_US (http://www.harley-davidson.com/gma/gma_product.jsp?WebLogicSession=NTp0lc3SOfJYUMvAI1vzz9njD6d5W35kc91BN7WUMqyFXWD0ivc7!182099217!hiwpbmsp04.ihd.hd!7005!8005&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524448774741&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302491575&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374302491575&bmUID=1293117880884&bmLocale=en_US)
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Is this what you're looking for?
http://www.harley-davidson.com/gma/gma_product.jsp?WebLogicSession=NTp0lc3SOfJYUMvAI1vzz9njD6d5W35kc91BN7WUMqyFXWD0ivc7!182099217!hiwpbmsp04.ihd.hd!7005!8005&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524448774741&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302491575&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374302491575&bmUID=1293117880884&bmLocale=en_US (http://www.harley-davidson.com/gma/gma_product.jsp?WebLogicSession=NTp0lc3SOfJYUMvAI1vzz9njD6d5W35kc91BN7WUMqyFXWD0ivc7!182099217!hiwpbmsp04.ihd.hd!7005!8005&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524448774741&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302491575&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374302491575&bmUID=1293117880884&bmLocale=en_US)
That works on bikes to add leds ,The kit I supply makes existing run ,brake tourpak lights into run,turn,and brake like above video. jdo
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That works on bikes to add leds ,The kit I supply makes existing run ,brake tourpak lights into run,turn,and brake like above video. jdo
Sorry, not looking to step on your toes. Didn't the 09's just have the LED's in the center between the lights? If I'm remembering correctly he's going to have to convert the bulbs on the corners to LED.
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Sorry, not looking to step on your toes. Didn't the 09's just have the LED's in the center between the lights? If I'm remembering correctly he's going to have to convert the bulbs on the corners to LED.
HARLEY SELLS 2 Items .Old style 09 and earlier bulb tourpak run,brake and turn kit 50-60 dollars.They sell a new led turn,run and brake led unit for450-500. The kit I have put together updates cvo 2010-11 running, brake leds to run,turn and brake like on harleys new light unit. jdo
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Waiting for your kit to arrive! I can't wait to get the turn signals up high
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Sent via paypal. Pm'd also.
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Payment sent via paypal.
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Sorry but i'm confused.
I have a 2011 SERGU with the LED lights. I purchased the conversion kit 69200042 not knowing that it would not work. In addition i purchased the wing LED lights to go on the saddlebags. I was able to rewire the conversion harness to accomodate the saddle bag lights but not the tourpac corner lights. The corner lights only have 2 wires while all the others have 3 wire for the brighter intensity. How are you making a two wire corner light have dual intensity? are you using a voltage booster to increase the voltage? I guess I forgot to mention that I am expecting all 3 lights to match intensity during running and breaking.Any clarification on this would be appriciated.
Bruce
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Open up JDO's reply's #8 and #9 on the 1st page and a module in the supplied wiring harness makes the outside lights dual intensity as you want. He supplies the y harness and this wiring with module and is an easy mod..
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This is a GREAT addition. Just finished the install, took about 2 hours since I HATE electrical stuff!! But it is a good result, just like the video postred earlier.?
Have any of you been able to get the 4-way flasher to work on the top corners?? My lights flash on the lower rear and the front, but not the upper, now modified, lights.
Not a biggie, just want to be consistent.
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Installed the kit last night, no trouble after getting familiar with the directions.
Tips:
1) use a #60 drill bit to release the pin lock (after pulling up the white release)
2) you only have to swap the 2 black wires #5 and #8 on the tour pac light plug
3) use a small piece of velcro to attach the module to the left rear corner of the tour pac
The kit works great, just as advertised! Thanks
Tom
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I would like one of your kits, I have a 2011 FLTRUSE. Please email me with your paypal info and I'll send money. Thanks
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Have any of you been able to get the 4-way flasher to work on the top corners?? My lights flash on the lower rear and the front, but not the upper, now modified, lights.
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Installed kit and it works great. Thanks
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I still haven't heard from JDO about how to get a kit. Can someone tell me how to contact him? He hasn't responded to this board or my pm. sweethddv@hotmail.com Thanks.
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PM is good...I have his phone number at home. I will pm it to you when I get home tomorrow.
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I just got my module/harness from my local dealer and plan to make my own y-harness (similar to JDO's) to get it to work. I haven't had a chance to install it yet tho, so I haven't had a chance to see what I can make it do...
Have any of you been able to get the 4-way flasher to work on the top corners?? My lights flash on the lower rear and the front, but not the upper, now modified, lights.
I'm interested in making the 4-ways work too, but I'm not sure if it's possible. Once I get the turnsignals working I might be able to test out some ideas, but I don't want to risk damaging the TSSM. One of my questions is: do the 4-ways work OK while the bike is running, but not when the bike is turned off? If that's the case, then the module may be drawing 12v power from the running light circuit to brighten the corner lamps during braking and/or turn signal operation. If true, then supplying an isolated 12v source when the ignition is off might make the module work, or if done incorrectly it would probably keep the running lights lit and drain the battery...
I'm (literally) in the dark until I get mine working. All I can do for now is speculate, so please don't think I know what I'm talking about! :P
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I just got my module/harness from my local dealer and plan to make my own y-harness (similar to JDO's) to get it to work. I haven't had a chance to install it yet tho, so I haven't had a chance to see what I can make it do...
I'm interested in making the 4-ways work too, but I'm not sure if it's possible. Once I get the turnsignals working I might be able to test out some ideas, but I don't want to risk damaging the TSSM. One of my questions is: do the 4-ways work OK while the bike is running, but not when the bike is turned off? If that's the case, then the module may be drawing 12v power from the running light circuit to brighten the corner lamps during braking and/or turn signal operation. If true, then supplying an isolated 12v source when the ignition is off might make the module work, or if done incorrectly it would probably keep the running lights lit and drain the battery...
I'm (literally) in the dark until I get mine working. All I can do for now is speculate, so please don't think I know what I'm talking about! :P
My dealer ran two wires off the run/turn/brake module to the corner lights and the 4 ways work just fine. The corner lights are the same brightness as they are as runnin lights though, they don't get brighter like the middle section does. It's OK in day and real good at nite. they charged me a half hour labor (35.00)
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Have any of you been able to get the 4-way flasher to work on the top corners?? My lights flash on the lower rear and the front, but not the upper, now modified, lights.
mine 4 ways are like yours the module must not have that capability, go figure harley left sometrhing out
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Biker boy....I will check this option out and let you know. (about while the bike is running). They flash well when in the aux position, which is all I have checked so far.
And of course, I don't intend to ever use the 4-way flasher, but its a "nice-to-have"
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Hey Jeff, Received and installed the kit and it works great. Thanks
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Biker boy....I will check this option out and let you know. (about while the bike is running). They flash well when in the aux position, which is all I have checked so far.
And of course, I don't intend to ever use the 4-way flasher, but its a "nice-to-have"
Thanks Arctic John. The weather was too nice this weekend so I had to go for a ride instead of working on the lights!! 8) I'll get to it one of these days soon...
Don't like to think about it, but we've had to use the flashers before. I agree -they're "nice-to-have" when you need them!
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everything shipped,4 ways a harley oversight but I plan on turning alot ,and if I need to use 4 ways I'll have a bigger problem. jdo
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Finally tried teh flashers with the bike running. They do not work with the bike running or not running. I am sure one of you smart guys will figure this out.
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Arctic John,
Thanks for the information.
I wonder if this is all part of some clever marketing scheme by the MoCo... ? :o :nixweiss:
First they sell a bike with lights that look like they should be turn signals.
Next, a year later, they sell an add-on module that turns those lights into turn signals -but not 4-ways.
Then, in another year or so, maybe they will come out with a new module that adds the 4-way feature... ???
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Arctic John,
Thanks for the information.
I wonder if this is all part of some clever marketing scheme by the MoCo... ? :o :nixweiss:
First they sell a bike with lights that look like they should be turn signals.
Next, a year later, they sell an add-on module that turns those lights into turn signals -but not 4-ways.
Then, in another year or so, maybe they will come out with a new module that adds the 4-way feature... ???
You're giving the MOCO too much credit. 8)
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the turn signals on the 2011 cvo tourpack will change intensity by reversing the polarity of the power. They are designed with diodes and stuff inside to make this happen. Since I purchased the kit that did not work for the effect that i wanted I got creative with some $5 relays from radioshack. I used the turn signal wire to singnal the relay which reversed the power to the tail light making it bright like the center light. Now they all light up bright and blink at the same time as the normal turn signals and break lights.
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Kits still ready.
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Everthing sent enjoy,,,jdo
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Thanks Jeff.
Got the kit and finally some free time to install it last night. Works Great!!! Thanks again.
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COOL ENJOY JDO
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How long does this take to install? I've been procrastinating thinking it will take a few hours.
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30 minutes to an hour. Look at posts and follow instructions. Previous posts show mistakes and shortcuts. Be prepared for 2 hours and get thru quicker.
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30 minutes to an hour. Look at posts and follow instructions. Previous posts show mistakes and shortcuts. Be prepared for 2 hours and get thru quicker.
Quicker if plug realignment and able to identify right and left taillights
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JDO, PM sent
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Thanks Jeff, PayPal sent
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JDO,
If you still have some kits available, I'd sure like to get one from you. PM me with PayPal info..
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Payment sent. :2vrolijk_21:
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Quicker if plug realignment and able to identify right and left taillights
I'll check it out this weekend. I have to dig into the tour pack for other issues, so I'll tackle this while I'm in there. I really like the idea of getting the turn signals up high in drivers faces. Riding home from work I have to make a right turn off a quasi-freeway and it makes me nervous every time.
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I need a kit, PM sent to JDO
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Looking for a kit as well.
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Okay, I think I got it.. Just a liitle trouble getting the pins out of the connector.
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Regarding the rewire of the tourpack tailight plug that the module plugs into-you only have to reverse 2 ground wires.
Based on the above.. I think the direct wire connections by colors are:
Right Violet = Brown
Center Violet = White
Center Blue = Yellow
Left Violet = Violet
Left Black = Black w/Violet Stripe
Center Black = Black
Right Black = Black w/Brown Stripe
The highlighted ones are the ones that need to be changed.
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JDO,
I agree that this is a great add-on.
My Charcoal will be here in two weeks and my 09 CVO has the HD kit. The turn signals up high is a huge plus.
PM me as to how to get a kit.
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brake lights on
JDO, in your 2 pics it looks like your lower turn signals have run-brake-turn functionality.
Mine are not working that way. Mine function like the one on the youtube video.
Is there something I missed with the "Y" cable under the seat? I could care less about the 4way flashers.
I would be nice to have Run-Brake-Turn on the lower turn signals.
Thanks for your support.
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I have a badlands run,turn and brake kit with leds ,and a led tailight. I can discount them . jdo
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These are lights you see on my bike in earlier pic's. http://badlandsmotorcycleproducts.com/2008/Products/Turn-Signals.htm
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JDO,
How do I get the kit? Is installation difficult?
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:huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:
To all:
Absolutely great product. Fairly easy to install.
Looks like the bike should have come from HD.
Everyone should have thi kit.
:coolblue: :coolblue:
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backorder over 4 here thursday thanks jdo
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JDO, Exactly what I was looking for. Let me know how to order a kit from you. And thanks for making this happen!
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Needing a kit also please. :huepfenjump3:
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kits shipped couple left thanks jdo
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All hooked up and working good.....Thanks
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Crazy,
What are all the goodies?
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JDO, Exactly what I was looking for. Let me know how to order a kit from you. And thanks for making this happen!
All hooked up, working great - thanks! :bananarock:
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JDO,
I WANT ONE PLEASE!!!!!!! PM SENT.
:'( :'(
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I just got my kit yesterday. It's gonna be pretty hard for me to install. I am really handicapped with electrical. Well, too bad. :( :(
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JDO,
Pm sent
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which side of the LED light plug do I have to disassemble? the male or female side? I should have listen to my brother and drop out of med school!!!!!!! :'( :'(
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:-* :-*
Male
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EVERTHING IS SHIPPED,THANKS JDO
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All hooked up and working like a charm. 20 minute install. :orange: :bananarock: :huepfenjump3:
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Sold couple on rock,rythun and blues ride probally should have took couple and did installs. LOL thanks to all jdo
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last batch shipped and couple ready,,,jdo
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I see others on site making up own modules .This one uses all Harley parts and plug n play with realigning wires in a existing plug ,no wire cutting.
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For those interested. http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=52833.0
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this is conversion working. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERgK_PGyu9U&feature=player_embedded#at=18
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I have, and have had, the unit from Custom Dynamics for about 6 years, kept it off the SEEG and changed the plug-ins to make it work on my SERG but the same unit and it has never failed me. Of course you would want the correct one, I just found it cheaper to change plug styles when I changed bikes rather than buy a new unit.
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last batch shipped and couple ready,,,jdo
JDO, need a little help with what might be a somewhat unique situation on my 2010 SEUC. First, my TP is detachable. Second, I'm already running Badlands RUN/BRAKE/TURN 8-pin Illuminator module with LED turn signals at all 4 corners. I would like to make my TP corner LEDs into RUN/TURN signals as well.
My TP is detachable with 5 plugs.
*Left & Right antenna connections that let me move the antennas from the TP down to Antenna connections between the saddlebags and spacers for riding without the TP. These are obviously not impacted.
*Left & Right Speaker connectors for disconnecting the rear speakers when the TP is removed, not impacted.
*And lastly, a single plug my dealer made that connects to enable the rear LED on the TP, the led lighting inside the TP, the left & right LEDs above the saddlebags and the 12v plug inside the TP.
Will your adapter be compatible with my setup? How will your adapter work with the Badlands module that I'm already using to convert my existing rear turn signals into LED RUN/BRAKE/TURN signals. Will the LEDs on the TP function the same as the existing rear LED turn signals. If your adapter would allow the LEDs on the TP to function exactly the same as my existing rear LEDs, please sign me up for an adapter today.
BTW, the Badlands module allows all of my exisiting LED turn signals to also function as 4-way flashers and they can be run with the engine on or off and can never overheat. It would be fantastic if the Badlands module could also be used with your adapter to enable the TP corner LEDs to also function as 4-way flashers.
Please let me know what you think is possible with my set-up.
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I also are running badlands module and the kit will work with y harness in front of badlands module and then you will also be able to unplug when tourpak removal only thing is you will have to take seat off to unplug . jdo
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I have to take the seat off whenever I detach or attach the TP so that's not an issue. So how would the Y-adapter work with my large gang plug I use for all the lighting & accessories on the TP. Why does the Y-adapter go in front of the Badlands module? If it goes after the BL module wouldn't I get the same RUN/BRAKE/TURN lighting that the rear turn signals currently have...or am I not understanding how our y-adapter works?
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The y adapter hooks to harness leading to tourpak module that makes run brake and turn on tour pack. jdo
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The y adapter hooks to harness leading to tourpak module that makes run brake and turn on tour pack. jdo
When the brakes are applied do the corner LEDs light up or do the only flash when the turn signal for that side is activated? I understand that the corner TP LEDS will not function as 4-way flashers but is there any impact on the lower turn signals performing as 4-way flashers when this y-adapter is installed?
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all 3 lights on tourpak light for brakes and lower turns 4 way flash video in earlier posting shows how they work. jdo
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all 3 lights on tourpak light for brakes and lower turns 4 way flash video in earlier posting shows how they work. jdo
So how do I order a JDO y-adapter kit for my 2010 SEUC?
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JDO,
I stumbled on to this thread by accident and I am interested in your kit. Is it possible to add your kit to my wife's Street Glide Trike. I added a King Tour-Pak with a 67914-10,Tour-Pak Wrap-Around LED Light Kit and 53149-99DH Color-Matched Tour-Pak Spoiler Kit?
The ground and power for tail and stop lights are take from 3 wires at the accessory plug under the seat. Everything else in the Tour-Pak is the same.
I realize the wiring is different, but I think it is doable. I think I would have to do a little different Y-harness to tap into the turn signals in the Street Glide Trike. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
blkout50
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Harley Module Part # 69911-11 has 5 wires that are only identified by color and pin location. I listed below what each wire is for if anyone who wants to hard-wire the module or make their own t harness.
Pin 1 - BROWN (LEFT TURN)
Pin 2 - ORANGE / WHITE (RUNNING / PARKING)
Pin 3 - VIOLET (RIGHT TURN)
Pin 4 - BLACK (GROUND)
Pin 5 - YELLOW (STOP)
Pin 6 - vacant (NOT USED)
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Thanks copout !
That is a big help for me. With your information, I think I can make it work. I am going to our local stealership and order the module harness and enough pieces to make my own y-harness.
Thanks again!
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I just installed JDO kit. Worked relatively easy once I understood how the y-adapter and HD module worked. Here's my simplified summary:
- Y-adapter goes under the seat. In my case I installed it BEFORE the Badlands Illuminator module I use with my LED Turn signals
- The HD module is installed inside the TP. I simply installed it with a little velcro in the rear left corner. The wires without the plug installed, enable you to slip the wire through the TP grommet hole before installing the plug. I simply wrapped the lose wire pins with electrical tape so I could slide them through the grommet. It's a tight fit but with some pushing and pulling the wire fits through nicely.
- Disconnect the plug at the rear of the TP that leads to the TP LED Light Bar. Take the factory plug that delivers the power to the LED bar and just lay it loosely in the bottom of the TP. It won't be used but someday you may want to go back to the factory setup.
- Take the plug on the wires coming from the LED bar, use a small needle nose plier and pull the white center forward till it clicks. It only moves a short distance. Then use a paperclip in the small holes for the wires that are being moved and push inward till the wire can be pulled out the backside of the plug. Here's where things were different for my bike. In earlier posts it was stated that by just swapping the outward black wires the blinkers would operate. Unfortunately the wrong side blinker would be activated by just swapping the black ground wires.
- I returned the ground wires to the factory position and swapped the outward 2 purple (power) wires. By just swapping the 2 outward power wires, my LED TP Turn signals worked perfect (although still no TP flasher capability).
- Now with the module's wiring lying under the seat, you need to install the plug. Relatively easy and just follow JDO's instruction. Plug the rest of your tail lighting into the y-adapter and your'll be ready to ride.
This is a nice addition and it's all entirely reversible with no wires being cut. Interestingly enough, you really don't even need to reverse the pins you changed on the LED Light Bar plug. Just plug it back into the original plug and it'll operate just as it did from the factory. All-in-all, this is a great little upgrade. Just a shame it didn't come this way from the factory.
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Ok, just discovered that you can buy the y-harness from Harley. Had to order the module harness so I am not sure yet if the pin housing is required yet, but ordered it anyway.
69911-11 module harness
70933-10 Y-harness from kit 69200042A
73106-96Bk Pin Housing, six-way, single row
Hope this helps the DIYers
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Forgot to add the current msrp prices. If you order from Chicago HD or Surdyke.com expect 10% -20% Savings. I paid roughly $70 plus shipping. ALL PLUG - N - PLAY!
69911-11 module harness $64.95
70933-10 Y-harness $20.00
73106-96bk housing $1.75
All that is left is to follow the instructions for 67931-11 & 67932, Tour pak wrap around LED lights. See reply #23 of this thread to download the instructions.
hth
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Thanks copout !
That is a big help for me. With your information, I think I can make it work. I am going to our local stealership and order the module harness and enough pieces to make my own y-harness.
Thanks again!
NP. It's a fairly straightforward install and well worth the money ;D
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I just installed JDO kit. Worked relatively easy once I understood how the y-adapter and HD module worked. Here's my simplified summary:
- Y-adapter goes under the seat. In my case I installed it BEFORE the Badlands Illuminator module I use with my LED Turn signals
- The HD module is installed inside the TP. I simply installed it with a little velcro in the rear left corner. The wires without the plug installed, enable you to slip the wire through the TP grommet hole before installing the plug. I simply wrapped the lose wire pins with electrical tape so I could slide them through the grommet. It's a tight fit but with some pushing and pulling the wire fits through nicely.
- Disconnect the plug at the rear of the TP that leads to the TP LED Light Bar. Take the factory plug that delivers the power to the LED bar and just lay it loosely in the bottom of the TP. It won't be used but someday you may want to go back to the factory setup.
- Take the plug on the wires coming from the LED bar, use a small needle nose plier and pull the white center forward till it clicks. It only moves a short distance. Then use a paperclip in the small holes for the wires that are being moved and push inward till the wire can be pulled out the backside of the plug. Here's where things were different for my bike. In earlier posts it was stated that by just swapping the outward black wires the blinkers would operate. Unfortunately the wrong side blinker would be activated by just swapping the black ground wires.
- I returned the ground wires to the factory position and swapped the outward 2 purple (power) wires. By just swapping the 2 outward power wires, my LED TP Turn signals worked perfect (although still no TP flasher capability).
- Now with the module's wiring lying under the seat, you need to install the plug. Relatively easy and just follow JDO's instruction. Plug the rest of your tail lighting into the y-adapter and your'll be ready to ride.
This is a nice addition and it's all entirely reversible with no wires being cut. Interestingly enough, you really don't even need to reverse the pins you changed on the LED Light Bar plug. Just plug it back into the original plug and it'll operate just as it did from the factory. All-in-all, this is a great little upgrade. Just a shame it didn't come this way from the factory.
Have you noticed if your rear turn signals ALTERNATE (between the TP and stock turns) when the brake is applied while using your Badlands module ? It seems that the rear turn signals on the tour-pack and stock bar don't flash together if using any kind of module that converts the stock turns into running, brake, and turn. They will flash together if the brake is not applied but when you apply the brake they start to alternate. That was driving me nuts so I took the turn signal conversion module off and left the tour-pack module hooked up.
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Have you noticed if your rear turn signals ALTERNATE (between the TP and stock turns) when the brake is applied while using your Badlands module ? It seems that the rear turn signals on the tour-pack and stock bar don't flash together if using any kind of module that converts the stock turns into running, brake, and turn. They will flash together if the brake is not applied but when you apply the brake they start to alternate. That was driving me nuts so I took the turn signal conversion module off and left the tour-pack module hooked up.
Well you are correct. I just checked and if you hold the brakes on, the TP and lower rear turn signals will beginning alternating the flashing signal. As soon as you let go of the brake, they go back to flashing in synchrony. Hit the brake and they go back to alternating. I also tried connecting the TP Module AFTER the Badlands module but that is definitely NO GOOD. Connected this way, the TP and lower turn signals flash together until you hit the brakes. Then, strangely enough, the TP and lower turn signals alternate their flashing signals but on the OPPOSITE sides (if you started with a right signal, and then held the brake, the lower right turn signal would still flash but the TP would now flash on the left side.)
I went back to having the TP connected before the Badlands module and have just accepted that the TP and lower turn signals will alternate their flashing whenever the brake is applied. If you think about it, it's not really a bad outcome as it will definitely make your turn plus braking far more visible to those behind you when the flashing alternates. I would be interested to hear if anyone found a way to keep the TP turn signals in syncrony with the lower turn signals even when braking?
I would also be interested to hear if anyone just simply ran a direct connection from the Y-harness AFTER the Badlands Run/Turn/Stop module and just skipped the HD module in the TP. Wouldn't the Badlands module run the rear TP lights the same as the lower lights without the HD module? Thoughts?
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Have you noticed if your rear turn signals ALTERNATE (between the TP and stock turns) when the brake is applied while using your Badlands module ? It seems that the rear turn signals on the tour-pack and stock bar don't flash together if using any kind of module that converts the stock turns into running, brake, and turn. They will flash together if the brake is not applied but when you apply the brake they start to alternate. That was driving me nuts so I took the turn signal conversion module off and left the tour-pack module hooked up.
I looked at JDO's video in post 133 and mine flash the same as his with a Kuryakyn run-brake controller. Mine do not alternate with the brakes applied. :nixweiss:
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Forgot to add the current msrp prices. If you order from Chicago HD or Surdyke.com expect 10% -20% Savings. I paid roughly $70 plus shipping. ALL PLUG - N - PLAY!
69911-11 module harness $64.95
70933-10 Y-harness $20.00
73106-96bk housing $1.75
All that is left is to follow the instructions for 67931-11 & 67932, Tour pak wrap around LED lights. See reply #23 of this thread to download the instructions.
hth
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JDO was the first to figure this out on his own. Appreciate his efforts and is a must upgrade for anyone who own a 2010 and up. Just purchase from him and be done with it. Thanks, JD for your efforts.
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Like JDO, I'm a DIYer. Searching for something else I stumbled onto this thread. I also did some research and discovered that Harley sells a Y-harness. I made my own Y-harness since I have crimpers, wire, and all of Harley's connectors and pins that I use on a daily basis.
Since there are others like myself, I freely passed on this learned information. Since not everyone has all the tools and equipment that I have, they can purchase the factory pieces to accomplish this task with minimal cost.
Sorry that it offends you that I am freely giving away my additional research.
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The y harness was not sold seperately when this thread started so that is good to know. JDO made them.
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Well you are correct. I just checked and if you hold the brakes on, the TP and lower rear turn signals will beginning alternating the flashing signal. As soon as you let go of the brake, they go back to flashing in synchrony. Hit the brake and they go back to alternating. I also tried connecting the TP Module AFTER the Badlands module but that is definitely NO GOOD. Connected this way, the TP and lower turn signals flash together until you hit the brakes. Then, strangely enough, the TP and lower turn signals alternate their flashing signals but on the OPPOSITE sides (if you started with a right signal, and then held the brake, the lower right turn signal would still flash but the TP would now flash on the left side.)
I went back to having the TP connected before the Badlands module and have just accepted that the TP and lower turn signals will alternate their flashing whenever the brake is applied. If you think about it, it's not really a bad outcome as it will definitely make your turn plus braking far more visible to those behind you when the flashing alternates. I would be interested to hear if anyone found a way to keep the TP turn signals in syncrony with the lower turn signals even when braking?
I would also be interested to hear if anyone just simply ran a direct connection from the Y-harness AFTER the Badlands Run/Turn/Stop module and just skipped the HD module in the TP. Wouldn't the Badlands module run the rear TP lights the same as the lower lights without the HD module? Thoughts?
It has something to do with the turn brake controller when the brakes are applied. I also think it acts differently if you have LED bulbs rather than halogen installed for the rear turns. I removed my controller since the tour-pack is now working great and I never liked how bright the controller made the running lamps compared to the taillight and TP brightness.
I had previously tied the TP lamps into the run,brake, turn controller and didn't like the results on the TP due to minimal light output and not being able to see the flashing during the day.
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The y harness was not sold seperately when this thread started so that is good to know. JDO made them.
Actually it was.
Notice that the Y-Harness has 2010 part number. Also notice that the Module Harness has a 2011 part number.
In a nut shell, the Y-Harness was released before the Module Harness.
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It has something to do with the turn brake controller when the brakes are applied. I also think it acts differently if you have LED bulbs rather than halogen installed for the rear turns. I removed my controller since the tour-pack is now working great and I never liked how bright the controller made the running lamps compared to the taillight and TP brightness.
I had previously tied the TP lamps into the run,brake, turn controller and didn't like the results on the TP due to minimal light output and not being able to see the flashing during the day.
I have Custom Dynamics LED front and rear turnsignals, Kuryakyn controller with 3 load equalizers and the upper and lowers flash together with the brakes applied. With the 4 ways on, only the lowers flash. FWIW
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Actually it was. Notice that it is a 2010 part number. I might be mistaken, but I think there are other places that I Harley uses a Y-Harness for lighting.
I was just going by the Harley instructions in posts 3 and 4 of this thread and "y harness" not sold seperately when you go to the parts break down. Nice to know you found it available.
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It has something to do with the turn brake controller when the brakes are applied. I also think it acts differently if you have LED bulbs rather than halogen installed for the rear turns. I removed my controller since the tour-pack is now working great and I never liked how bright the controller made the running lamps compared to the taillight and TP brightness.
I had previously tied the TP lamps into the run,brake, turn controller and didn't like the results on the TP due to minimal light output and not being able to see the flashing during the day.
I would consider this approach except my TP is detachable. I wouldn't want to lose the RUN/TURN/STOP function on the turn signals when the TP is off the bike. By keeping the Badlands module as well as the HD TP Module, the bike has RUN/TURN/STOP LED Lighting whether the TP is on or off.
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Well you are correct. I just checked and if you hold the brakes on, the TP and lower rear turn signals will beginning alternating the flashing signal. As soon as you let go of the brake, they go back to flashing in synchrony. Hit the brake and they go back to alternating. I also tried connecting the TP Module AFTER the Badlands module but that is definitely NO GOOD. Connected this way, the TP and lower turn signals flash together until you hit the brakes. Then, strangely enough, the TP and lower turn signals alternate their flashing signals but on the OPPOSITE sides (if you started with a right signal, and then held the brake, the lower right turn signal would still flash but the TP would now flash on the left side.)
I went back to having the TP connected before the Badlands module and have just accepted that the TP and lower turn signals will alternate their flashing whenever the brake is applied. If you think about it, it's not really a bad outcome as it will definitely make your turn plus braking far more visible to those behind you when the flashing alternates. I would be interested to hear if anyone found a way to keep the TP turn signals in syncrony with the lower turn signals even when braking?
I would also be interested to hear if anyone just simply ran a direct connection from the Y-harness AFTER the Badlands Run/Turn/Stop module and just skipped the HD module in the TP. Wouldn't the Badlands module run the rear TP lights the same as the lower lights without the HD module? Thoughts?
I think I might order plug ends and try y link behind the badlands module and see if that would work like run,brake on tail lights ,if so that would fix 4 way problems. I will post out come.
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Just finished the kit and it works great. The led plug on my 11 only required me to move two ground wires by flipping the turn led grounds
Tip before removing all the wires simply remove one pair of purple and black wires
Insert them into the open connector on the harness in the correct slots for them and turn on power to determine if you have the right or left led panel pair
There are three wire harness coming from led. Left center and right
The center is three wire and mine was already in the correct position so noting that it reduces removing all wires as instructed. No reason to take out and put right back
Once you know which pair is left and right you simply switch the wires. Basically you need the left ground under the right power (purple) and visa versa.
After that it's simple
Also. On the module the connections
Match up color coded except on the wires coming from the module there is no blue or white wire.
So the Yellow goes to blue on the y connector otherwise it's color matched
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I think I might order plug ends and try y link behind the badlands module and see if that would work like run,brake on tail lights ,if so that would fix 4 way problems. I will post out come.
Please let us know how it turns out. This might be a very simple solution that gives the TP RUN/TURN/STOP capability plus functioning 4-way flashers on the TP. And it would eliminate the need for the HD TP Module for those bikes that are already using the Badlands Illuminator module for the lower turn signals.
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I would consider this approach except my TP is detachable. I wouldn't want to lose the RUN/TURN/STOP function on the turn signals when the TP is off the bike. By keeping the Badlands module as well as the HD TP Module, the bike has RUN/TURN/STOP LED Lighting whether the TP is on or off.
That make sense. I would also want to retain the run/brake/turn functions if my TP was removable. I just don't care for the inconsistent operation for the turn signals as previously discussed. Oh well, maybe i'm just too picky !
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OK,I made a harness to try and use Badlands module to make run,brake and turn on tourpak and turns work just not very bright and brake not noticed any light brightness change so Harley kit is only one so far. jdo
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Well I got the module installed and figured out my wiring on my streetglide and got the tourpak lights working as described. BUT I am now wondering could the side marker tourpak run leds be tied in as well (piggyback their same side violet and ground connections at the output side of the 8 pin molex connector) and have them become brake and turn signals as well?
I didn't want to just do it and run the risk of screwing something up without first asking
Thanks.
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I think that might work,just don't do any damage you can't fix if it don't work. good luck jdo
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Well I can say that it kinda works when hooked up as I described above...They will still work as park lights and will flash on and off for turn but they will flash opposite from the tourpak and standard turnsignals and the killer of the plan...they go off when the brake is used :(.. Back to the drawing board and the search continues.
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I bought the harness. Could somebody post instructions with pix or a detailed instructions , I guess JDO might assume that I knew what I was doing , but in regards to wiring the bike i was born with one hand and no eyes!!!! PLEASE>>>> :'( :'( :'( :'(
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I bought the harness. Could somebody post instructions with pix or a detailed instructions , I guess JDO might assume that I knew what I was doing , but in regards to wiring the bike i was born with one hand and no eyes!!!! PLEASE>>>> :'( :'( :'( :'(
Take your time, it's actually less daunting that it appears. Take the liner out of the bottom of your TP. Take your seat off the bike. There's 2 main parts and a plastic connector.
To get oriented: The Y-Adapter goes under the seat. You'll need to find the wire that comes through the rear fender. Find the wire it plugs into. Unplug it. Now plug the y-adapter plugs into the plugs you just unplugged. Your rear lights should now work again and you should have an open plug that your new TP harness will plug into later.
Next, find the wire coming out of the LED light bar at the rear of the TP. Follow the wire to it's plug and unplug it. Lay the factory plug somewhere in the bottom of the TP where it is secure in case someday you want to reuse it. Now take the long wire with the HD module on it. Lay the module in the TP bottom. Take the wire with the metal tips and wrap it tightly into a point with electrical tape. Find where all the wires go through the grommet at the front of the TP. Spread the wires as best you can and work the electrical tape point you just made through the grommet with the other wires. Its a tight fit but if you work it back and forth and slowly, it will work its way through. Once the tip is through, pull the rest of the wire through the grommet. Remove the electrical tape.
Now follow JDO's instructions and install plastic connector on the wire you just pulled through the grommet. Once the plug is on the wire, you should be able to plug it into the open end of the y-adapter you already installed under the seat. Now everything is ready to be plugged in but you're still not done.
Final wiring step. You'll need to make changes to the plug at the end of the wire that comes out of the LED bar. Take a pair of needle nose pliers and pull the white base of the plug slightly out. It doesn't need to move very far to be unlocked. Once it's unlocked you'll need to move 2 wires to opposite slots for the LEDs to function properly. I found it very easy to just take a paperclip, unbend it and then push it into the hole above the wire you'll be moving. You should be able to easily slip the chosen terminal out the back of the plug as you push the paperclip in.
I needed to only move 2 wires for my 2010 SEUC LED TP lighting to be fully functional. Just focus on the 4 outer wires at the 4 corners of the plug. These 4 wires control the corner turn signals on the LED TP Bar. 2 of the 4 wires are black. These are the grounds. The other 2 corner wires have a very faint stripe. These are the power leads. Take these power leads and swap their position. These are the only 2 wires you should need to move. Once they are pushed through into their new positions, just take the needle nose pliers and push the white base back into position to lock the terminals in place. Now plug the HD module into the TP plug you just modified. Test the system by turning the ignition on and trying your turn signals.
You should find that both the lower and TP turn signals are now flashing together until you apply the brake. When the brake is applied, the upper and lower turn signals will alternate while the center brake light of the LED bar lights up brighter.
Secure the wiring in the TP, reinstall the TP liner, secure the wiring under the seat. Reinstall your seat. Go for a ride and enjoy your new lighting. Good luck.
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An earlier post suggested just swapping the grounds. Is this an option or would you say it's better to swap the + leads?
Thanks.
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I only needed to swap the grounds. If the wrong side TP turnsignal flashes then you need to swap the positive leads.
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An earlier post suggested just swapping the grounds. Is this an option or would you say it's better to swap the + leads?
Thanks.
I tried swapping the grounds first but I ended up with the TP turn signals flashing on the opposite side of the lower turn signals. I put the grounds back to their original position and swapped the power leads and everything worked as it was suppose to.
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Thanks again
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parts needed 69911-11 and 70933-10 pages 1thru 3 in first posting TOOLS NEEDED 1)SMALL NEEDLENOSE PLYERS,2)REALLY SMALL DRILL ,PAPERCLIP OR JEWELERS SCREW DRIVER,3) BLACK TAPE ,4) WIRE TIES 1)YOU NEED TO TAKE SEAT OFF AND TOUPACK LINER OUT. 2)NEXT UNPLUG TAIL LIGHT PLUG AT REAR OF TOURPAC. (SHOULD BE 7 WIRES BLACK,VIOLET,AND BLUE.) THIS IS PLUG YOU HAVE TO REALIGN WIRES IN. 3) DISASSEMBLE TAILIGHT PLUG ,USE SMALL NEEDLE NOSE TO CLICK PULL WHITE CENTER OUT IN TAILIGHT PLUG ,IT JUST COMES OUT A LITTLE TO UNLOCK . THEN USE A SMALL ROUND TOOL(PAPER CLIP,JEWELER SCREWDRIVER,OR DRILL) TO PUSH IN ROUND HOLE IN PLUG TO RELEASE THE WIRE, DO TO ALL THE WIRES IN THE PLUG. 4) WHEN WIRES ARE OUT OF THE PLUG YOU NEED TO TEST AND MARK LEFT , RIGHT,AND MIDDLE SO YOU CAN REALIGN BACK IN PLUG .HARLEY PAGE 2-5 I COPIED AND MARKED #1 THE PICTURE OF PLUG IS FROM REAR. (WIRES SHOULD SNAP BACK IN) 5) FEED MODULE WIRES THRU TOUR PAK (I TAPED MINE TO FEED OUT OF LEFT SIDE SO I COULD PUT MODULE IN BUMP OF LINER) 6 )TAKE Y HARNESS AND PART LOOSE PLUG ON IT AND MATCH WIRE COLORS TO EACH OTHER ,WIRES SHOULD CLICK IN DO NOT FORCE. 7 ) INSTALL Y HARNESS AND POSISION WIRING TO TOURPAK AND IN TOURPAK AND PLUG TAILIGHTS IN. YOU MIGHT HAVE TO USE LINER TO FIND RIGHT SPOT FOR MODULE, 8)WIRE TIE AND TEST
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Take your time, it's actually less daunting that it appears. Take the liner out of the bottom of your TP. Take your seat off the bike. There's 2 main parts and a plastic connector.
To get oriented: The Y-Adapter goes under the seat. You'll need to find the wire that comes through the rear fender. Find the wire it plugs into. Unplug it. Now plug the y-adapter plugs into the plugs you just unplugged. Your rear lights should now work again and you should have an open plug that your new TP harness will plug into later.
Next, find the wire coming out of the LED light bar at the rear of the TP. Follow the wire to it's plug and unplug it. Lay the factory plug somewhere in the bottom of the TP where it is secure in case someday you want to reuse it. Now take the long wire with the HD module on it. Lay the module in the TP bottom. Take the wire with the metal tips and wrap it tightly into a point with electrical tape. Find where all the wires go through the grommet at the front of the TP. Spread the wires as best you can and work the electrical tape point you just made through the grommet with the other wires. Its a tight fit but if you work it back and forth and slowly, it will work its way through. Once the tip is through, pull the rest of the wire through the grommet. Remove the electrical tape.
Now follow JDO's instructions and install plastic connector on the wire you just pulled through the grommet. Once the plug is on the wire, you should be able to plug it into the open end of the y-adapter you already installed under the seat. Now everything is ready to be plugged in but you're still not done.
Final wiring step. You'll need to make changes to the plug at the end of the wire that comes out of the LED bar. Take a pair of needle nose pliers and pull the white base of the plug slightly out. It doesn't need to move very far to be unlocked. Once it's unlocked you'll need to move 2 wires to opposite slots for the LEDs to function properly. I found it very easy to just take a paperclip, unbend it and then push it into the hole above the wire you'll be moving. You should be able to easily slip the chosen terminal out the back of the plug as you push the paperclip in.
I needed to only move 2 wires for my 2010 SEUC LED TP lighting to be fully functional. Just focus on the 4 outer wires at the 4 corners of the plug. These 4 wires control the corner turn signals on the LED TP Bar. 2 of the 4 wires are black. These are the grounds. The other 2 corner wires have a very faint stripe. These are the power leads. Take these power leads and swap their position. These are the only 2 wires you should need to move. Once they are pushed through into their new positions, just take the needle nose pliers and push the white base back into position to lock the terminals in place. Now plug the HD module into the TP plug you just modified. Test the system by turning the ignition on and trying your turn signals.
You should find that both the lower and TP turn signals are now flashing together until you apply the brake. When the brake is applied, the upper and lower turn signals will alternate while the center brake light of the LED bar lights up brighter.
Secure the wiring in the TP, reinstall the TP liner, secure the wiring under the seat. Reinstall your seat. Go for a ride and enjoy your new lighting. Good luck.
Hi heatwave,
sorry took so long to respond. Its been really hectic , just trying to keep business going. No time for much else. Anyway, since it has rained 2 consecutive days in central Florida I embarqed myself in this project. Did the y harness under the seat, I thought I had matched the wire colors , although there is no red or blue coming from the module and there are only 5 wires instead of 6, i did the best I could. When I went to test it , both TP lights blink together when I push either of the turning lights. If I swap the power ones the blink crossed sides meaning the right TP left turning signal. I assume this has to do with the way I matched the wires that came from the module with the y harness, but I can't figure it out. I posted a pix. So if you can throw some light on this it would be appreciated. The other thing I locked the wires in place inside the female connector coming from the module, anyway to get them out if I need to rearrange? :oops:
Thanks
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this is a better picture. Bottom are the wires coming from TP module . Color: brown/orangish/violet/black/yellow. The yellow one was the one I had a issue with. NO matching on the other side, so I matched with the red, perhaps it should go with the blue ,who knows
thanks
:nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss:
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It's been a while since I did this install and I really don't recall the colors that well from memory. I figured my post would help with colors. My recommendation is to follow the steps I outlined again to see where you might have been different. If that doesn't work, I would recommend giving JDO a call. He provides his # in the instructions and I found him very knowledgeable and helpful.
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It's been a while since I did this install and I really don't recall the colors that well from memory. I figured my post would help with colors. My recommendation is to follow the steps I outlined again to see where you might have f=different. If that doesn't work, I would recommend giving JDO a call. He provides his # in the instructions and I found him very knowledgeable and helpful.
I found in another post , that the yellow coming from the TP should match the blue from the Y harness. Who would have known !!! I need to redue the housing. I hope I don't tear anything beyond repair!!! :oops:
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I have never noticed from where I am seated. ;D
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Do you have anymore kits? If so please PM me.
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I've read the entire thread and still have a question.
I have a 2011 FLHXSE2. Added a king tour pack and am in the process of adding extra lighting.
I recently purchased the 67931-11 smoked rear led unit and it came with the 69911-11 module harness and a Y harness (not sold separately).
Instructions say to connect the y harnes under the seat, but I don't see the same connector there. The only harness under the seat for the rear lighting is a 8 pin molex connector.
Am I missing something?
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JDO sent you an email
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JDO sent you an email
If you were referring to me, I never received anything.
I ended up building my own Y connector and figuring it out myself.
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No I was trying to reach JDO if he's still around
I bought a kit a while back and a friend wants one
his wife wants to get it for him for Xmas
Anyone know if he's still making the kits ?
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No I was trying to reach JDO if he's still around
I bought a kit a while back and a friend wants one
his wife wants to get it for him for Xmas
Anyone know if he's still making the kits ?
I sent him a pm and he suggested getting parts from HD, which I did and have since installed. Parts are available from HD and part numbers have been posted several times. I think the two parts you need are around $75.00 or there about
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look on first page harley started making y-link and I posted needed info on first posts. jdo
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69911-11 and 70933-10 are the only two parts needed now?
I took some time to clean up the instructions (hope I got them correct)
and post at the end of this thread in case someone needs them.
HD now has the parts you can buy direct from the dealer to do this mod. I took JDO’s change to the first post and copied it to the last post, as many won’t go back to page 1 on a 13-page thread.
So here are the instructions if you want to do this,
Part numbers from HD: 1 Each 69911-11 and 70933-10
Instructions: 1 through 3 posted below.
TOOLS NEEDED: 1) Small needle nose pliers, 2)Very small tool IE: small drill bit, paperclip, Jewelers flat screwdriver, 3) Black electrical tape, 4) Wire ties. 5) Digital (or non digital) multi-meter
1) Remove Seat, Tourpack liner.
2) Tail Light Harness plug (read before disconnecting): In the Rear of Tourpack, this connector has 7 wires, colors are black, violet and blue.
This is the plug you MAY have to realign the wires in to get the proper lamp to signal. Emphasis on MAY as you need to understand the stock side LED panels that you are going to make into Turn Signals are simply running lights to the factory. It doesn’t matter which pair of wires (power and ground) the installer runs to the left or right panel as all they care about is getting power to the panels for light. Therefore it’s possible the wires for each light are in the correct position to convert them to the correct turn signal (it’s also possible they are not in the correct (Left or Right) position. If they are in the correct position you will not need to move any wires, however it’s also possible you have to move a few wires. In other words, Test it first.
I find it’s best to first use a digital multi meter and test the connections coming off the harness BEFORE you disconnect to determine which wires run which lamp. You need to determine what pair runs a specific light. Before going to step 3, check the pairs, if they are already in the correct position leave them alone, skip steps 3 and 4. However if they are not in the right position you will need to move a pair to get the turn signals on the correct side.
3) Disassemble the tail light plug: Using the Needle nose pliers, grab the center pen retainer clip and pull straight out of the inside of the plug.
4) Remove Pins: Use a small drill bit or jewelers screwdriver and gently release the retaining clip in the center next to the pin you wish to remove. When you do this pull down gently on the corresponding wire and it will move far enough to get the pins retaining edge past the retaining clip in the housing. Do this for each wire you need to move. Pull wire through rubber orange retainer. DO NOT BEND the clips too far, just a little movement is all that is necessary.
5) Move one wire color set at a time, that way it’s easier to remember
where the wires go. You can remove the pair, and then mark them (L) (R) (C) so you can re-position properly. Generally you should be just moving the R and L not the center. When you push the wire back through the orange rubber retainer it will slide into position, you should hear it click into place but not always, just make sure it is properly in line and the retainer in position.
HARLEY PAGE 2-5 THE PICTURE OF PLUG IS FROM REAR.
6) Feed the Module wires through hole in tour pack run the module on the left side of the tour pack and you can put module in the bump in corner of liner. Use some industrial Velcro to secure module to wall if you like.
7 )Y Harness: Take connector and wires with pins from module you ran though the tour pack and apart and match wire colors to the Y wire connector (except yellow to red, white to blue or no wire)
8 ) Install Y harness position wiring to Tourpack, using zip tie to attach to tour pack mount.
9)Test then when confirm working wire tie in place,
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Thanks to all involved for the update to this mod. Will be getting the 2 parts needed for my 2011.5 SEUC. Looking forward to getting this done!
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69911-11 and 70933-10 are the only two parts needed now?
I took some time to clean up the instructions (hope I got them correct)
and post at the end of this thread in case someone needs them.
HD now has the parts you can buy direct from the dealer to do this mod. I took JDO’s change to the first post and copied it to the last post, as many won’t go back to page 1 on a 13-page thread.
So here are the instructions if you want to do this,
Part numbers from HD: 1 Each 69911-11 and 70933-10
Instructions: 1 through 3 posted below.
TOOLS NEEDED: 1) Small needle nose pliers, 2)Very small tool IE: small drill bit, paperclip, Jewelers flat screwdriver, 3) Black electrical tape, 4) Wire ties. 5) Digital (or non digital) multi-meter
1) Remove Seat, Tourpack liner.
2) Tail Light Harness plug (read before disconnecting): In the Rear of Tourpack, this connector has 7 wires, colors are black, violet and blue.
This is the plug you MAY have to realign the wires in to get the proper lamp to signal. Emphasis on MAY as you need to understand the stock side LED panels that you are going to make into Turn Signals are simply running lights to the factory. It doesn’t matter which pair of wires (power and ground) the installer runs to the left or right panel as all they care about is getting power to the panels for light. Therefore it’s possible the wires for each light are in the correct position to convert them to the correct turn signal (it’s also possible they are not in the correct (Left or Right) position. If they are in the correct position you will not need to move any wires, however it’s also possible you have to move a few wires. In other words, Test it first.
I find it’s best to first use a digital multi meter and test the connections coming off the harness BEFORE you disconnect to determine which wires run which lamp. You need to determine what pair runs a specific light. Before going to step 3, check the pairs, if they are already in the correct position leave them alone, skip steps 3 and 4. However if they are not in the right position you will need to move a pair to get the turn signals on the correct side.
3) Disassemble the tail light plug: Using the Needle nose pliers, grab the center pen retainer clip and pull straight out of the inside of the plug.
4) Remove Pins: Use a small drill bit or jewelers screwdriver and gently release the retaining clip in the center next to the pin you wish to remove. When you do this pull down gently on the corresponding wire and it will move far enough to get the pins retaining edge past the retaining clip in the housing. Do this for each wire you need to move. Pull wire through rubber orange retainer. DO NOT BEND the clips too far, just a little movement is all that is necessary.
5) Move one wire color set at a time, that way it’s easier to remember
where the wires go. You can remove the pair, and then mark them (L) (R) (C) so you can re-position properly. Generally you should be just moving the R and L not the center. When you push the wire back through the orange rubber retainer it will slide into position, you should hear it click into place but not always, just make sure it is properly in line and the retainer in position.
HARLEY PAGE 2-5 THE PICTURE OF PLUG IS FROM REAR.
6) Feed the Module wires through hole in tour pack run the module on the left side of the tour pack and you can put module in the bump in corner of liner. Use some industrial Velcro to secure module to wall if you like.
7 )Y Harness: Take connector and wires with pins from module you ran though the tour pack and apart and match wire colors to the Y wire connector (except yellow to red, white to blue or no wire)
8 ) Install Y harness position wiring to Tourpack, using zip tie to attach to tour pack mount.
9)Test then when confirm working wire tie in place,
Great instructions, did mine about two months ago and love it.
:2vrolijk_21:
SBB
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just finished mine thanks for the write up
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Buddy just got the parts for xmas and
found out we had a problem with the parts
When plugged in it runs both side panel LEDs
at the same time no matter what side you select right or left
Moved the Y harness from mine which works
to his bike and it does the same, also his Y works
on mine which means it has to be the module part
sucks that the factory doesn't test these things
you can hear the module clicking and running both
lights.
now he has to get that part replaced
however I went ahead and determined L
and R pairs and moved them to the correct
position.
One other thing to add, when you are aligning
the pins Brown is Right, Violet is Left.
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Buddy just got the parts for xmas and
found out we had a problem with the parts
When plugged in it runs both side panel LEDs
at the same time no matter what side you select right or left
Moved the Y harness from mine which works
to his bike and it does the same, also his Y works
on mine which means it has to be the module part
sucks that the factory doesn't test these things
you can hear the module clicking and running both
lights.
now he has to get that part replaced
however I went ahead and determined L
and R pairs and moved them to the correct
position.
One other thing to add, when you are aligning
the pins Brown is Right, Violet is Left.
ok
i just finished mine this week i read the directions and they said that i might not need to move my wires so i pluged it all in and tested and it did the same thing you are talking about so i went back to page 1 and read again then page 2 is where all the wires come out of plug and get installed as the same as page 2 i also had to buy a load equelizer for mine but that was because of other upgrades
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Just looked at all 13 pages here - did I miss how the side lights are getting an increased brightness?
I did read somewhere here that the leads were reversed to get the brighter light, but LED's don't work that way, so is there actually a second set of LED's in the strip?
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Just looked at all 13 pages here - did I miss how the side lights are getting an increased brightness?
I did read somewhere here that the leads were reversed to get the brighter light, but LED's don't work that way, so is there actually a second set of LED's in the strip?
The increase in brightness so the end lights can be brake lights or turnsignals is done by the module.
There is not a 2nd set of led's in the lights.. Works great. Feel like a Winger. Lit up nice from the back.
If you have non led corner lights in the tourpack, the kit you get from Harley has light sockets for each end light to make them double filament.
Hope this helps.
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I have the LED light bar for my king tourpak Bob.
Just confused as to how the lights are brighter. Is the module increasing the voltage? And if so how?
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I have the LED light bar for my king tourpak Bob.
Just confused as to how the lights are brighter. Is the module increasing the voltage? And if so how?
Duane-
I don't know how the module increases the brightness of the led's for brake/turn. I do know that my rh and lh end lights are very bright when the brake is applied or the turnsignals are on. Easily seen from behind on sunny days for turn/brake. They just work. Bob
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Has anyone used the Magic-TCP module to get the tour pack lights to act as turn signals?
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Anyone tried this?
http://www.ridetimetechnology.com/tp_seultra.htm
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Anyone tried this?
http://www.ridetimetechnology.com/tp_seultra.htm
Yep. Works great. 8)
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Any big deal to install? I should have my part by tomorrow.
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Any big deal to install? I should have my part by tomorrow.
Nope, piece of cake.
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Which module did you go with? Turn SE or TurnSE+ & are you happy with the ease of installation & does it do what it is suppose to do as run\brake\turn signal?
Thanks
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I'm still waiting for my part.
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I bought JDOFLHRIDER parts. Worked just fine on mu FLTRUSE !!!!! :2vrolijk_21:
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I'm still waiting for my part.
From where I'm not making them unless harley back order gets to bad.
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Got the part and took about 30 minutes to install. Works great.
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Please humor me. I just ordered the toupak to match my 2011 CVO SESG and want to add the LED tailight kit sold by HD.
It's my understanding that all I need is the HD kit #67931-11 and a primed lamp housing from the 2011 CVU Ultra Classic to have a less housing wrapping the side of the TP.
Does this sound right?
I looked at the 2011 CVO Ultra Classic parts book and the LED llamp units for the TP are not the same as the LED Light kit. Is that going to make a difference?
Thanks
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I used the ridetime stuff not the HD stuff and it works great.
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Please humor me. I just ordered the toupak to match my 2011 CVO SESG and want to add the LED tailight kit sold by HD.
It's my understanding that all I need is the HD kit #67931-11 and a primed lamp housing from the 2011 CVU Ultra Classic to have a less housing wrapping the side of the TP.
Does this sound right?
I looked at the 2011 CVO Ultra Classic parts book and the LED llamp units for the TP are not the same as the LED Light kit. Is that going to make a difference?
Thanks
KIT IS MADE TO COVER UP OLD STYLE TOURPAK LIGHT, Don't look as nice as cvo one
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Thanks for the reply JDO, than it sounds like I am headed in the right direction using the primed CVO LED lamp housing instead of what comes with the HD LED KIT. Now all I have to do is to get the housing painted to match the new tour pak. Do you happen to know if HD's LED lamp kit contains all the connectors needed like #70933-10? Thanks again.
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for you new owners this will work
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Hey, J.D.O. I WOULD LIKE ONE OF THOSE KITS MYSELF. LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU NEED, FOR ME TO GET ONE FROM YOU
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Hey, J.D.O. I WOULD LIKE ONE OF THOSE KITS MYSELF. LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU NEED, FOR ME TO GET ONE FROM YOU
Waynel, If you read a few posts back you will find that JDO isnt making the harness (Y adapter) anymore since it is now available from the motor company. The module has always been available from them. I had to wait less than a week for my dealer to get me the two parts.
for you new owners this will work
You are correct. Thanks to you for doing the research and putting up the post to make it so easy because I just installed it tonight on my 2012. Last year I converted my 09 Ultra to the HD 3 light set up and wanted it on my CVO but the local parts guys said it couldnt be done. Thankfully I found this post because I feel much better knowing the cages behind me have an eye level turn signal to know my intentions. Next project is getting some LED turn signals and brake light down low and I am done! Well at least done for a little while. :P
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Thanks ZDADDY, Guess if I'd paid a little more attention I would have noticed that. Ordered the parts from Harley today. Thought when I bought a CVO I wouldn't have to do anything to it what a mistake that was . Suspension next. Who knows after that
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There is always something left to do.
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Has anyone figured out how to make the 4-ways (Hazards) work with this yet?
If the 4-ways are on, the tour pak corners don't blink.
If I hit the brakes with the 4-ways on, the left and right tour pak corners blink opposite of the turns and are erratic (the right corner blink consistently but the left corner skips a few blinks ever now and then). When I release the brakes, the tour pak corners go off.
I can live with it, but it would be nice to find a way to make the tour pak corners blink in sync to the turns when the 4-ways are on.
Regards, TW
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Has anyone done this mod to the 2013 cvo ultra yet. I have my parts in but i am not electrically inclined(if that makes any sense).
just wondering ???
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YES,I did a 2013 friday works good . good luck
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thanks! ;D
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Has anyone done this mod to the 2013 cvo ultra yet. I have my parts in but i am not electrically inclined(if that makes any sense).
just wondering ???
Did several months ago on my 2012 CVO Ultra with no problems and the 13's and 12's are reportedly the exact same. Dont panic if you plug it all in and they don't work correctly. Just refer to the part in the instructions about you may need to change the polarity of the wires coming from the lights. The high and low of the light is achieved by reversing polarity and since polarity didnt mater to the factory techs when they built the harness you may have to swap a couple of extra pins like i did.
I also found i could run a jumper from the small strips on the lower outside edges to the now old connector that i left in the trunk so they would flash when the turn signals activate. The only problem is since they are not the same style as the rear lights they flash 180 degrees out of phase with the turn signals and go out while the brake is applied. :-\ Not sure if i like that or not.
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so you only need the module and the y-harness to do this conversion?
don't you also need the connector body? 73106-96BK?
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Duane-
I don't know how the module increases the brightness of the led bulbs (http://www.niceledlights.com) for brake/turn. I do know that my rh and lh end lights are very bright when the brake is applied or the turnsignals are on. Easily seen from behind on sunny days for turn/brake. They just work. Bob
I think it can be increased by using resistors
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Has anyone done this mod to the 2013 cvo ultra yet. I have my parts in but i am not electrically inclined(if that makes any sense).
just wondering ???
Did my conversion..what a difference..love it thanks for the info. This is why I love this site! :bananarock:
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no hdctss it comes with the y- harnes
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Is there a difference in functions between the HD mod and the Ride Time Technology TurnSe+ module?
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works great...bought the parts from the dealer...put them in...swapped black wires...works like a charm...but that damn grommet
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I received SE Ultra Tour-Pak Turn Signal Module (TurnSE+ Module), from Ride Time Technology
They installed very easily and worked perfectly.
I am recommend this prodcut.
http://www.ridetimetechnology.com/
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Made the change last year. Love the results. Easy to do but like is posted above that grommet was a bugger.
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works great...bought the parts from the dealer...put them in...swapped black wires...works like a charm...but that damn grommet
Since this post was originally started in 2010, I just wanted to confirm that the HD parts needed are still:
69911-11
70933-10
For those of you that installed on a 2013 UC CVO, am I still ok just ordering those parts? Thanks
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that is all you need for this
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Thanks. Will order the parts tomorrow. Since I am "mechanically challenged" I do have a friend who will assist me in the install. Is this a 2 beer minimum???? ;D
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Started the install today. When all plugged in, the turn signals flash together, irregardless of which signal (left or right) is pushed. Center light works fine. Is this caused by the wires coming out of the LED light box? Should switching the L/R black wires correct this? Wiring into the y harness matched up ok. Hopefully, this is not caused by a bad module.
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Thanks. Will order the parts tomorrow. Since I am "mechanically challenged" I do have a friend who will assist me in the install. Is this a 2 beer minimum???? ;D
Yes...2 beer minimum.
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Started the install today. When all plugged in, the turn signals flash together, irregardless of which signal (left or right) is pushed. Center light works fine. Is this caused by the wires coming out of the LED light box? Should switching the L/R black wires correct this? Wiring into the y harness matched up ok. Hopefully, this is not caused by a bad module.
Not a bad module but you will need to switch the L/R wires/pins. All will function fine after that.
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Hello everyone!
There may some confusion about the tour pack wiring due to the differences in year / CVO etc. Here is a picture from my service manual wiring schematic. There clearly is no way to make the side markers, wrap around and rear lighting function independently as it is wired from the HD. They all use only ground, run and brake. The wiring also is separated as it enters the tour pack and under the metal pack plate (one mine anyway) going to side marker lights.
I have purchased a tour pack factory plug (indicated as 12-6 B) along with all of the pins, wires, and a lighting harness Y adapter (for under the seat). Plans are to use a lighting adapter / load balancer to enable the use of the HD 2 wire LED sections to function as run / brake / signal. I will use all 7 pins, combine the common wires and separate the left and right turn signal using the adapter outputs. I am still working out the details on a clean install. Plans are to simply unplug the factory plug and plug in my revised one. I put the LED lights on the saddlebag rails, and will run the 3 wires from them to a point under the seat on the same bundle heading up to the pack.
Hopefully.... Everything will illuminate and each function blink in unison!
Running-all time,
Brake= All bright
Turn signal = side markers, rear corners, saddlebag rail LED's = Off/bright/Off.
Edit:
My apologies for not fully grasping the content within the previous 15 pages of this thread. I seemed to keep running into parts that related to the 2009 tour pack and not the CVO LED with wrap around. I went through all of the threads again several times, copy and pasting the information in a separate document, and think I understand the conversion. It did not seem to be possible without a complete re-wire of the 8 (7 pin) plug on the rear LED lights since it only used 3 wires. I have an older Badlands Illuminator module with only the wires and no plug, so I am now going to attempt to wire this to a plug after the Y connector (this worked for you Heatwave?) and include the LED lights on the saddlebag guards. If I am not able to wire the female plug correctly I will buy the harness adapter from HD. Somehow in all this mess I need to install a plug for my trailer isolator module as well.
Thank you Heatwave for your correction to my post. And a million thanks to everyone for the incredible information found in this post as well as the entire CVO board!
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Hello everyone!
There may some confusion about the tour pack wiring due to the differences in year / CVO etc. Here is a picture from my service manual wiring schematic. There clearly is no way to make the side markers, wrap around and rear lighting function indepently as it is wired from the HD. They all use only ground, run and brake. The wiring also is seperated as it enters the tour pack and under the metal pack plate (one mine anyway) going to side marker lights.
I have purchased a tour pack factory plug (indicated as 12-6 B) along with all of the pins, wires, and a lighting harness Y adapter (for under the seat). Plans are to use a lighting adapter / load balancer to enable the use of the HD 2 wire LED sections to function as run / brake / signal. I will use all 7 pins, combine the common wires and seperate the left and right turn signal using the adapter outputs. I am still working out the details on a clean install. Plans are to simply unplug the factory plug and plug in my revised one. I put the LED lights on the saddlebag rails, and will run the 3 wires from them to a point under the seat on the same bundle heading up to the pack.
Hopefully.... Everything will illuminate and each function blink in unison!
Running-all time,
Brake= All bright
Turn signal = side markers, rear corners, saddlebag rail LED's = Off/bright/Off.
The statement in bold is innaccurate. I have a 2010 SEUC and I have 2 LEs, to handle LEDS at all 4 corners, along with the turn signals converted from the LED TP Wraparound light. It was a relatively easy install but it did require swapping pins in the connector inside the TP. For more details on how to make this mod, just search earlier in thuis thread. Many others have completed the conversion with little time and effort.
The conversion of the wraparound LEDs from just being a brake signal, to brake AND turn signals, has only one downside. The wraparound LEDs will not function as 4 way flashers. The lower turn signals will continue to function as 4way flashers.
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So.
16 pages, and lots of confusion as to what and where this will work or not. I'm confused.
Lots of information, but can someone please summarize,
for a 2013 CVO Ultra with wraparound LED on tourpak, to make the factory Run/Brake/Run only switch to Blinker/Brake/Blinker...
It is just a matter of ordering a kit now as posted earlier to make it match that video that was posted a long time ago?
Exactly what is needed, and how is it done from beginning to end?
And how does this work with the LED Airwing light I want to add to my rack on top of the tourpak?
You guys say it is only 2 parts to order, then there were 3 part numbers earlier...but then back to just 2...
Just want to get this all together so I can order my parts...
and also, does this work with the Kuryakyn Run Turn Brake modules? I had it in my '07 Ultra, and removed it before I traded it in to get the '13 CVO Ultra...was wondering whether I should install that before the new stuff to make the tourpak work correctly...?
Thanks!
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I just purchased the Ride Time TurnSE+ run/brake/turn signal module and installed it on my 2013 CVO Ultra. The LED light bar on the trunk now is a running light, all three function as brake lights, and the end lights are also turn signals. The 4 way flasher also uses the corner LEDs. I also have the run/brake light on the rack from Harley. It is mentioned in the instructions, so no issue there. Very simple to install. Instructions are very clear and go step by step. I.E.- remove seat, remove tour pack bottom liner. Identify plug under seat and plug in a connector, run wire through grommet with existing wires, plug in another connector, remove 4 pins from one connector, install them in new one, plug all in and check for function, install seat and liner and ride! Every step where a connector is involved it is described and identified with pictures. I received it in the mail today and installed it in less than an hour, very easy install.
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Hello All!
I still have not done this yet but plan on it within next few weeks.
I really believe the Tourpak lighting enhancement will make us more visible and thus a little safer.
Today I witnessed a near miss of a truck barreling to a yellow / stop light where an Ultra was just stopping. The cager never saw the bike , and swerved at the last second to go around him into the passing lane to avoid rear ending him. So anything we can do to improve our visibility is a must!
HD has the pigtail that supposedly will do most of the light mods, it's around 60.00, but still requires mucking with the main rear TP plug.
Talked with Namz, here is the response:
first, tour pack, we will need to customize a Badlands module for you to allow this.
The module will give you RUN, BRAKE and TURN for both LEFT and RIGHT sides and an additional RUN, BRAKE & GROUND for the center BRAKE LIGHT in the tour pack.
You would need to modify the wiring in the tour pack separating the LEFT and RIGHT sides and isolating the BRAKE light as well, very simple. We supply the wiring & install butt connectors for an easy installation for you.
The one from SE Ultra Tour-Pak Turn Signal Module (TurnSE+ Module), from Ride Time Technology seems to be what most guys are going with, it would just be really nice if they would update their website information, video and instructions to correlate to the SE when mentioned.
This all goes back to the fact of the main plug only using the 2 or 3 functions to either of the LED sections, and to what level we are willing to tear into the plug and connections.
Sticking a needle into the male / female connection points to wiggle out the plug can be a challenge, especially if not ever done or done very much.
Plus the risk of screwing one of the plugs up, requiring a new plug to be crimped in place, although cheap, the crimp tool is very expensive to do it right. otherwise skillful use of needle-nose and pliers may give success.
What I have done is print off all of the instructions at the beginning of this thread that relate to the SE, and not the simple 2009ish year types, print off the somewhat current instructions on RT Tech. Print off the information about the HD pigtail, (either your dealer or sometimes the HD sight will have them with the right part number) , print off the instructions on how to remove and re-install the connector pins on both the TP main and the small 2 / 3 wire black plugs in TP bottom. And then decide to which level of fewest-connections-to-go-wrong-with-time I want to use.
I am leaning toward the Namz product, as I really HATE the Kury module, and LOVE the Badlands products. Plus the Badlands balance the current to help make everything close to the same brightness, and usually brighter than factory (I will check into that and let you know for latest module) (past experience has been righteous customer service with Badlands) and I plan on using the Namz trailer isolator with the Bushtec hidden hitch for the ride to Milwaukee this summer.
So for sure want everything to BLINK in unison!
At the risk of growing this long thread, I would like to post the final MOD with pictures, NOT to push someones product, but to simply share what I decided to do. I'm sure the simpler the better in the long run!
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So.
16 pages, and lots of confusion as to what and where this will work or not. I'm confused.
Lots of information, but can someone please summarize,
for a 2013 CVO Ultra with wraparound LED on tourpak, to make the factory Run/Brake/Run only switch to Blinker/Brake/Blinker...
It is just a matter of ordering a kit now as posted earlier to make it match that video that was posted a long time ago?
Exactly what is needed, and how is it done from beginning to end?
And how does this work with the LED Airwing light I want to add to my rack on top of the tourpak?
You guys say it is only 2 parts to order, then there were 3 part numbers earlier...but then back to just 2...
Just want to get this all together so I can order my parts...
I installed the modules from Ride Time Technologies last weekend on my '13 SEUC. I used the Turn SE+ module and the FlashR2. Everything works exactly as you described, including the airwing light which I installed as well. The harnesses from RideTime were an easy install and the instructions that came with the kits were easier to understand than their website. Only gotcha I had, and it was noted on the instructions as a possibility, was that in the original connector that I removed wires from, the 2 pairs were opposite what was shown in the diagram so right turn signal would get a left signal on the tour pack, easy fix though, just moved the pins in the built up connector. A tip on the grommet, put a dab of dielectric grease on it and roll it in from one end around to the other, works like a charm.
http://ridetimetechnology.com/tp_seultra.htm (http://ridetimetechnology.com/tp_seultra.htm)
http://ridetimetechnology.com/flashr.htm (http://ridetimetechnology.com/flashr.htm)
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New to the Forum but wanted to say this thread made the modification painless.
Bought the Y-Harness and Module Harness (connector comes with module harness)
Swapped the outside ground pins
Wired the 6 pin connector color to color (with the exception of yellow going to red and nothing going to the blue.)
Works like a charm.
Thanks to everyone that helped with this post.
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Those with the "short side" LED bar, are your side lights as turn signals flashing the same intensity as the brake light?
Best I can tell with my light bar is that the center light is dual intensity and the side lights are low intensity only.
I rode with someone this past weekend who added a tourpak to his Street Glide, the light bar appeared to be the same as mine, but his side lights flashed bright (he added the kit)
http://ridetimetechnology.com/tp_seultra.htm
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Those with the "short side" LED bar, a
This is what I am referring to when I say mine is "short side"
This kit has longer sides ahead of the LED which I'm guessing is to help hide the holes left by the incandescent light bar.
http://www.harley-davidson.com/store/led-king-tour-pak-brake-turn-tail-lamp-kit
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I used a kit from Ride Time Technologies to make my side lights act as turn signals. Easy install and perfect results.
http://ridetimetechnology.com/tp_seultra.htm (http://ridetimetechnology.com/tp_seultra.htm)
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I used a kit from Ride Time Technologies to make my side lights act as turn signals. Easy install and perfect results.
http://ridetimetechnology.com/tp_seultra.htm (http://ridetimetechnology.com/tp_seultra.htm)
Was this kit plug and play as their website states?
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I used a kit from Ride Time Technologies to make my side lights act as turn signals. Easy install and perfect results.
http://ridetimetechnology.com/tp_seultra.htm (http://ridetimetechnology.com/tp_seultra.htm)
My query has to do with the side light intenisty. Mine seems to be only low, the bar I saw last weeknd was low-high intensity.
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Was this kit plug and play as their website states?
Yes, it was. Very easy to install. I had the same reversal that TinSpinner mentioned in his July 9, 2013 post, but easy to fix.
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I just bought the 67931-11 LED wrap around light kit for my CVO Street Glide from a fellow forum member. Will it plug and play into existing wiring or will it require more parts? :nixweiss:
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It looks like Ride Time Technology is out of business. I want to convert my '12 CVO Ultra tour-pack lights to the brake/turn mode.....any suggestions as to who might make a kit for this?
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It looks like Ride Time Technology is out of business. I want to convert my '12 CVO Ultra tour-pack lights to the brake/turn mode.....any suggestions as to who might make a kit for this?
That's odd. The links listed above still go to the product page. I would call them before I ordered from the site though since the home page does indeed have a statement of them going out of business. I bet they still have some inventory if they didn't sell out the business completely.
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That's odd. The links listed above still go to the product page. I would call them before I ordered from the site though since the home page does indeed have a statement of them going out of business. I bet they still have some inventory if they didn't sell out the business completely.
I called and sent an email. The owner (I assume) emailed me back and said they closed the business at the end of 2013. He did not offer or indicate he had any left for sale. I was surprised that the website was still up.
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Go back a few pages in this thread and you will find the H-D part number for a similar kit.
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Go back a few pages in this thread and you will find the H-D part number for a similar kit.
If you find this kit can you link it Please?
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Hi Jswerve,
I think this is what you're looking for http://www.harley-davidson.com/store/tour-pak-brake-running-turn-signal-conversion-kit-pa-11-69200042a--1
Joe
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Hi Jswerve,
I think this is what you're looking for http://www.harley-davidson.com/store/tour-pak-brake-running-turn-signal-conversion-kit-pa-11-69200042a--1
Joe
Thank you!
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To anyone attempting to navigate this thread (2014.04.21):
After reviewing much of the 18 page thread 3+ year old thread :), I just completed this install very successfully using the information / instructions from page 1 of this thread, ordering the HD parts as stated and downloading the HD instructions (as supplied by JDO). Also, used info in the quote below (from page 10) as a good guide.
Also attached a page from the HD Service Manual on how to the disassemble of the Molex MX 150 connector.
BTW, Ride Time Technologies has gone out of business late last year as their module is talked about a fair amount in this thread.
Works like a charm...John
Quote from: Heatwave on July 23, 2011, 04:26:16 PM
I just installed JDO kit. Worked relatively easy once I understood how the y-adapter and HD module worked. Here's my simplified summary:
- Y-adapter goes under the seat. In my case I installed it BEFORE the Badlands Illuminator module I use with my LED Turn signals
- The HD module is installed inside the TP. I simply installed it with a little velcro in the rear left corner. The wires without the plug installed, enable you to slip the wire through the TP grommet hole before installing the plug. I simply wrapped the lose wire pins with electrical tape so I could slide them through the grommet. It's a tight fit but with some pushing and pulling the wire fits through nicely.
- Disconnect the plug at the rear of the TP that leads to the TP LED Light Bar. Take the factory plug that delivers the power to the LED bar and just lay it loosely in the bottom of the TP. It won't be used but someday you may want to go back to the factory setup.
- Take the plug on the wires coming from the LED bar, use a small needle nose plier and pull the white center forward till it clicks. It only moves a short distance. Then use a paperclip in the small holes for the wires that are being moved and push inward till the wire can be pulled out the backside of the plug. Here's where things were different for my bike. In earlier posts it was stated that by just swapping the outward black wires the blinkers would operate. Unfortunately the wrong side blinker would be activated by just swapping the black ground wires.
- I returned the ground wires to the factory position and swapped the outward 2 purple (power) wires. By just swapping the 2 outward power wires, my LED TP Turn signals worked perfect (although still no TP flasher capability).
- Now with the module's wiring lying under the seat, you need to install the plug. Relatively easy and just follow JDO's instruction. Plug the rest of your tail lighting into the y-adapter and your'll be ready to ride.
This is a nice addition and it's all entirely reversible with no wires being cut. Interestingly enough, you really don't even need to reverse the pins you changed on the LED Light Bar plug. Just plug it back into the original plug and it'll operate just as it did from the factory. All-in-all, this is a great little upgrade. Just a shame it didn't come this way from the factory.
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Wow! Thanks!
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So these instructions along with part #69200042A will work in a FLHTUSE8 (2013)? Im sorry for asking but this whole thread is very painful to me. Thanks
To anyone attempting to navigate this thread (2014.04.21):
After reviewing much of the 18 page thread 3+ year old thread :), I just completed this install very successfully using the information / instructions from page 1 of this thread, ordering the HD parts as stated and downloading the HD instructions (as supplied by JDO). Also, used info in the quote below (from page 10) as a good guide.
Also attached a page from the HD Service Manual on how to the disassemble of the Molex MX 150 connector.
BTW, Ride Time Technologies has gone out of business late last year as their module is talked about a fair amount in this thread.
Works like a charm...John
Quote from: Heatwave on July 23, 2011, 04:26:16 PM
I just installed JDO kit. Worked relatively easy once I understood how the y-adapter and HD module worked. Here's my simplified summary:
- Y-adapter goes under the seat. In my case I installed it BEFORE the Badlands Illuminator module I use with my LED Turn signals
- The HD module is installed inside the TP. I simply installed it with a little velcro in the rear left corner. The wires without the plug installed, enable you to slip the wire through the TP grommet hole before installing the plug. I simply wrapped the lose wire pins with electrical tape so I could slide them through the grommet. It's a tight fit but with some pushing and pulling the wire fits through nicely.
- Disconnect the plug at the rear of the TP that leads to the TP LED Light Bar. Take the factory plug that delivers the power to the LED bar and just lay it loosely in the bottom of the TP. It won't be used but someday you may want to go back to the factory setup.
- Take the plug on the wires coming from the LED bar, use a small needle nose plier and pull the white center forward till it clicks. It only moves a short distance. Then use a paperclip in the small holes for the wires that are being moved and push inward till the wire can be pulled out the backside of the plug. Here's where things were different for my bike. In earlier posts it was stated that by just swapping the outward black wires the blinkers would operate. Unfortunately the wrong side blinker would be activated by just swapping the black ground wires.
- I returned the ground wires to the factory position and swapped the outward 2 purple (power) wires. By just swapping the 2 outward power wires, my LED TP Turn signals worked perfect (although still no TP flasher capability).
- Now with the module's wiring lying under the seat, you need to install the plug. Relatively easy and just follow JDO's instruction. Plug the rest of your tail lighting into the y-adapter and your'll be ready to ride.
This is a nice addition and it's all entirely reversible with no wires being cut. Interestingly enough, you really don't even need to reverse the pins you changed on the LED Light Bar plug. Just plug it back into the original plug and it'll operate just as it did from the factory. All-in-all, this is a great little upgrade. Just a shame it didn't come this way from the factory.
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Well I just tried part #69200042A and I don't think it will work. The LED bar has a red, purple, blk for the center brake led and the 2 outer running leds have purple and blk. The harness has purple and blk but no red. Plus the to outer leds would need a red wire installed. Too much for me so maybe someone smarter can take a shot. I think I wasted 60 bucks.
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Well I just tried part #69200042A and I don't think it will work. The LED bar has a red, purple, blk for the center brake led and the 2 outer running leds have purple and blk. The harness has purple and blk but no red. Plus the to outer leds would need a red wire installed. Too much for me so maybe someone smarter can take a shot. I think I wasted 60 bucks.
Go back to reply #188. You don't need the 69200042A "kit" you only need P/N 69911-11(Module) and 70933-10(Y harness) and follow the instruction in that same reply and you should be all set.
On my 11.5 the "original" connector for the LED's had the red,white,blue,purple ect.. That connector is now just laying in the bottom of the TP unused
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Here's a pic of the module:
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To anyone attempting to navigate this thread (2014.04.21):
After reviewing much of the 18 page thread 3+ year old thread :), I just completed this install very successfully using the information / instructions from page 1 of this thread, ordering the HD parts as stated and downloading the HD instructions (as supplied by JDO). Also, used info in the quote below (from page 10) as a good guide.
Also attached a page from the HD Service Manual on how to the disassemble of the Molex MX 150 connector.
BTW, Ride Time Technologies has gone out of business late last year as their module is talked about a fair amount in this thread.
Works like a charm...John
Quote from: Heatwave on July 23, 2011, 04:26:16 PM
I just installed JDO kit. Worked relatively easy once I understood how the y-adapter and HD module worked. Here's my simplified summary:
- Y-adapter goes under the seat. In my case I installed it BEFORE the Badlands Illuminator module I use with my LED Turn signals
- The HD module is installed inside the TP. I simply installed it with a little velcro in the rear left corner. The wires without the plug installed, enable you to slip the wire through the TP grommet hole before installing the plug. I simply wrapped the lose wire pins with electrical tape so I could slide them through the grommet. It's a tight fit but with some pushing and pulling the wire fits through nicely.
- Disconnect the plug at the rear of the TP that leads to the TP LED Light Bar. Take the factory plug that delivers the power to the LED bar and just lay it loosely in the bottom of the TP. It won't be used but someday you may want to go back to the factory setup.
- Take the plug on the wires coming from the LED bar, use a small needle nose plier and pull the white center forward till it clicks. It only moves a short distance. Then use a paperclip in the small holes for the wires that are being moved and push inward till the wire can be pulled out the backside of the plug. Here's where things were different for my bike. In earlier posts it was stated that by just swapping the outward black wires the blinkers would operate. Unfortunately the wrong side blinker would be activated by just swapping the black ground wires.
- I returned the ground wires to the factory position and swapped the outward 2 purple (power) wires. By just swapping the 2 outward power wires, my LED TP Turn signals worked perfect (although still no TP flasher capability).
- Now with the module's wiring lying under the seat, you need to install the plug. Relatively easy and just follow JDO's instruction. Plug the rest of your tail lighting into the y-adapter and your'll be ready to ride.
This is a nice addition and it's all entirely reversible with no wires being cut. Interestingly enough, you really don't even need to reverse the pins you changed on the LED Light Bar plug. Just plug it back into the original plug and it'll operate just as it did from the factory. All-in-all, this is a great little upgrade. Just a shame it didn't come this way from the factory.
Great to read my post from 3 years ago is still helping other riders looking to add turn signals to their tourpak!
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Go back to reply #188. You don't need the 69200042A "kit" you only need P/N 69911-11(Module) and 70933-10(Y harness) and follow the instruction in that same reply and you should be all set.
On my 11.5 the "original" connector for the LED's had the red,white,blue,purple ect.. That connector is now just laying in the bottom of the TP unused
Isnt the "kit" the same as the 2 individual parts?
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I'm not sure. I purchased the two parts separately. The module was something like $55 and the "Y" harness was another $20. But either way the original plug for the tourpak lights, the one with the red, blue, white, purple and black wires is no longer used when you do this modification.
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I tried looking up the parts and couldnt find anything. However the whole light kit 67931-11 has the harness I need. Now to see what that part number is. Or maybe I will have some bourbon and a cigar and just forget the whole thing.
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Didn't the instructions to the kit include a part list? The toughest part of the whole thing is taking apart the connections without breaking the things and maybe verifying which wires under the seat go to the left and right signals. Save the bourbon for after the job... it only took me about an hour from start to finish.
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Looks like the kit has the harness but not the correct module, if I'm reading the description in the kit instructions correctly. I would just see if the dealer would take the unused kit back - I know fat chance of a return on electrical parts -- then order the two parts that you need. Or if they won't let you return the kit, keep it and order the module and use the contents of the kit to wire it up. With the module, y harness and connections in that kit you'll have everything you need.
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Done!!! Bought the correct module and did it. Only difference was my 13 wanted the 2 black wires swapped and not the 2 purples. And of course the flashers don't work on the TP but when I have the brakes on, the right TP side does flash and the left side flashes sometimes. Probably if someone would play with swapping more wires that the flashers would work. Not Me. That connector kicked my butt.
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I did this mod about 3 weeks ago. All was working fine. Today I noticed that my left turn signal would blink for 3 times then stop. When using the brake light, the left side had about a 1 or 2 second delay before returning to low intensity. Checked all the connections, seemed fine. I'm wondering if the relay is bad. I can hear it clicking with the right turn signal, couple of weak clicks with the left signal. Of course I can't return an electrical part, already asked. Is there anything else to check. I'd hate to throw another $50 or $60 away if that's not the problem.
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I did this mod about 3 weeks ago. All was working fine. Today I noticed that my left turn signal would blink for 3 times then stop. When using the brake light, the left side had about a 1 or 2 second delay before returning to low intensity. Checked all the connections, seemed fine. I'm wondering if the relay is bad. I can hear it clicking with the right turn signal, couple of weak clicks with the left signal. Of course I can't return an electrical part, already asked. Is there anything else to check. I'd hate to throw another $50 or $60 away if that's not the problem.
If it's just the tourpak lights acting up I would suspect the module. Maybe ask again about a replacement from HD since yours appears faulty and there really should be some type of warranty on parts from the manufacturer. I know that you can't return electrical or special orders if you order the wrong part or decide you no longer want it, but that is not the case here.
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I asked about returning it as it was faulty. I didn't expect a return and the dealer didn't give me one. Maybe I should rephrase my request, but this time to the parts manager. The worst he can say is no. Hope this isn't a problem with only the red bikes, and not the blue.
UPDATE: Spoke with the parts manager today and he ordered me another module. No loss to the dealership as it is a new part covered by their warranty. Guess I should have made sure the parts counter understood my initial request. Nice to have a good dealer in my area.
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Picked up the new module, installed and everything works as it should.
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Excellent :2vrolijk_21:
Well, except for the part where you(I assume) had to pay for another module.
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Excellent :2vrolijk_21:
Well, except for the part where you(I assume) had to pay for another module.
Nope. The parts department manager warrantied the part as it was defective. Just glad that the part failed so soon after installation. So, no extra cost.
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That's even better. Glad the parts manager took care of you.
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I have made y-harness and have kits with instructions. jdo
I would like to buy one of these. How do I get in touch with you?
I have a 2011 CVO Ultra Classic with OEM LED lighting on the tourpack. Any chance this will work? And do you have any for sale?
Thanks, Phil
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I would like to buy one of these. How do I get in touch with you?
I have a 2011 CVO Ultra Classic with OEM LED lighting on the tourpack. Any chance this will work? And do you have any for sale?
Thanks, Phil
yes, I'd like to do this on 2012 ultra (CVO) as well. I,ve bee in contact with CD for years to get something, to no avail.