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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2010, 05:16:06 PM »

After totalling my 98 RG I almost bought a new 07 but this site saved me from a lot of grief, so bought a used 00 SERG and couldn't be happier. I'm not going to be tempted into a big inch motor until it's wet and then not for the first year or two. I think Harley favoring the 103 this year on some of their production bikes was a good move for those who can't wait. I'm forcasting a radical fixed fairing, wet motor powered bike the MoCo will be proud to feature the bird on again. The emission laws dictate next year is the year for my vision and you know Willie looks at this site for inspiration.  :P   Doc
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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2010, 05:20:30 PM »

When hell freezes over... this will be my last.
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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2010, 05:22:15 PM »


With the amount of miles that you put on it you will need a new one in 2045!  :huepfenjump3:
:2vrolijk_21: You know the saying it's not "quantity it's quality". :D :D

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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2010, 05:25:10 PM »

When hell freezes over... this will be my last.
Some people are saying it's  not that far away.  :nervous:
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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2010, 08:43:05 PM »

watercooled............
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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2010, 09:08:14 PM »

............................When the gov't doubles my retirement pay !
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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2010, 09:40:11 PM »

...it's ready to be delivered.  Going down to look at it Saturday (Charcoal/Black SEURG) (Just arrived at the dealer today.  ;D )

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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2010, 09:56:10 PM »

Today my answer is Nothing!

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But a used 06 or earlier, In a heartbeat!


i have only owned two hds, both are 08 models. whats the differnt between the models. i know u must have good reasons to want the 06. are they more powerful dependable?
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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2010, 10:00:11 PM »

I will buy a new Harley when I find a BSR who has "Boob Vibration" issues with my bike.     ;)

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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2010, 10:16:58 PM »

.....  My SERG crumbles into a rusty pile of dust.    :P
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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2010, 10:21:35 PM »

If mine were stolen or totaled, I'd look for a nice used pre '07 ride...   :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2010, 11:20:06 PM »

i have only owned two hds, both are 08 models. whats the differnt between the models. i know u must have good reasons to want the 06 or earlier . are they more powerful dependable?

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But a used 06 or earlier, In a heartbeat!

Note that I said 06 and earlier.

Starting in 2007 there were and still are issues with the cranks.
An 06 and earlier doesn't have Throttle By Wire.
Starting in 2007 with the 110's there were leaking issues with heads and cylinders.
Starting in 2007 there were issues with valve guides slipping in the heads.
Note that most decent companies that cared could figure out how to resolve that problem fairly quickly.
Two model years later my 2009 front cylinder exhaust valve guide slipped and bent the exhaust valve and bent the intake valve.
My 09 electrical connections at the ECM corrode and causes the bike to go into "limp mode."
Throttle by wire as presented by the MoCo is a scary thing.
I have had issues twice with mine.
06 and earlier didn't have a tank recall.
The 103 and 88" motors didn't have piston slap at approx 2800 RPM.
The design of the 09 swing arms allows for water to intrude into the interior of the swingarm and be trapped, I wonder how much rust there is in there.
The MoCo denied warranting my compensator with the SE one, my dealer had to get involved with that to keep me from paying for the SE Comp.
I have had twin cam bikes since 1999 and have collectively put 147,000 miles on the various bikes not counting the 09 SEUC.
My 09 SEUC has spent more time in the shop being repaired for warrantable issues than all of the other twin cams combined.
IMHO the Motor Company has become a company that doesn't give a rats ass about customer service.
I think the customer service employees are concerned about saving the MoCo money by denying warrantable claims so they will look good and preserve their jobs.
I believe it's all about profits to the shareholders, the customers be damned.
I'm very lucky to have a great dealer that has stood behind the MoCo products even when the MoCo wouldn't.

There is plenty more, this is just a start.

Look at Scott's post above, this is a man that knows motors, he knows.
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I'd look for a nice used pre '07 ride...

I wish everyone with a 07 and up 110 Screamin Eagle a lot of luck. Post like mine above are usually followed by 110 owners that have had no issues with theirs.
I think that's great but believe with enough miles their time will come.
I have put 43K miles on my 09 in 23 months so I post the above from experience not hearsay.


147,000 miles on pre 07 bikes and other than 2 stators there was no issues.  I thought that needed repeating!  ;)

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See picture below, that issue is not even on my list above.
Cool HUH?
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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #27 on: September 23, 2010, 11:58:29 PM »

Don't know why or when I would buy another, but I have copied SBB on the transmission shaft bearing.  Replaced last month.  Chip, I would swear that was a picture of my bearing failure.  Dealer also installed a new SE Compensator under warranty at the same time.
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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2010, 12:13:36 AM »

Don't know why or when I would buy another, but I have copied SBB on the transmission shaft bearing.  Replaced last month.  Chip, I would swear that was a picture of my bearing failure.  Dealer also installed a new SE Compensator under warranty at the same time.

Rick, I have to wonder how many of us that have had that same issue.
Also I didn't post the issues above to be considered just another raving lunatic that pisses and moans about everything.
smkymtnboy asked the question and I gave the best answer to explain why I feel as I do.
Jerry GRC has nailed it many times, If there are so many issues then WHY do we keep buying the product.
My original post was response to,
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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...

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Not going to!

A blue and a green FXR3 (his and hers) or another Classic SERG or a 06 SEUC could possibly be in my future.
But not a new one!
And the sad part is, I really wanted a 2013 SE 110th Anniversary in Silver and Black.
But why support a company that doesn't support their customers.
To me that seems a little stupid!

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Re: I Will Buy A New Harley When...
« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2010, 05:53:44 AM »

Guys,

I just posted this to "our" sector http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=54105.0 and now you come with this topic :oops: You make me nervous  :nervous:
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