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CVO Technical => EVO => Topic started by: Hoist! on December 30, 2008, 05:28:39 PM
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Well, the Hoist Bobber began mock up today. The old 80" hot rodded Evo motor and 4-speed trans from my '85 FXWG are now sitting in the new Paugho Rigid Frame I picked up. Got a nice peanut tank that I'll have them "Frisco" to get the bottom of the tank to follow the lines of the frame. Round oil tank with built-in battery tray. Fatboy wheels F&R with the same Conti 16"s on both. Complete original WG fork from the FXWG, with the original levers and front brake. 8" Flanders Bars on 6" risers. Reusing the old Girling caliper for rear. Buddy's fabricating a "cutoff" rear fender for it. Want to run a solo seat on this one. No jockey shift Mike. This bike will be getting completely mocked up so welding of any tabs, etc can be done before sending the frame out for powdercoating. This bike can easily be done by spring if they can stay at it. :2vrolijk_21:
Yeah, I know, :worthless: ;D ;D ;D
Binx left with the camera before I got to see the Hoist Bobber mock up. So pics will have to follow now. Oh well, something for ya'll to look forward to! ::) ;)
Hoist! 8)
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Well believe it or not, the mock up's mostly complete. Hopefully can get pics on Sat. We have to order 3-1/2" shorter fork tubes for the WG front end. The frame's basically a stock 30 deg rigid wishbone frame setup for an Evo. Also, I can't find a round oil tank with a battery box small enough to fit. I'd need about a 4" round one and the smallest one I found was 5". Looks like I'll have to use the Horseshoe Style. Bummer! Kinda had my heart set on a round spun alum oil tank. And I need an FXE size battery in this bike for the electric start. No place to put one but under the seat in the oil tank. I'm not going kick only either just to get the round tank! Bates style Diamond Pleated Charcoal Grey Metal Flake Bobber Seat with 2 Billet Coil Over Shocks on the rear of the seat w.hinged front! Might save my back a lil grief! No controls at all. A car type spring-loaded keyed ignition switch for the starter, a "bulb type" bicycle horn, front master cyl perch and clutch perch w/levers only-no controls, no signals, no speedo or idiot lights, and bicycle style Charcoal Grey Metal Flake handgrips. This will about as old school and stripped down as I can get it, while still having a battery, electric start, and hydraulic disc brakes.
I'm thinking to powdercoat the frame Black, and maybe have the tank and chopped rear fender match the Charcoal Grey Sparkle Seat. No front fender. Youze got any ideas on paint for it? I'll listen. Just don't be surprised if it winds up Rattle Can Flat Black! ;D ;) :2vrolijk_21:
Hoist! 8)
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You've got more bikes than Chip does Howie.
That's saying a lot
B B
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We will be waiting :2vrolijk_21:
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You've got more bikes than Chip does Howie.
That's saying a lot
B B
Just doin what I love Brother!!! Happy New Year to you and Linda B B!!! :drink: :2vrolijk_21:
Hoist! 8)
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We will be waiting :2vrolijk_21:
Thanks Dave! I'll try not to disappoint! ;)
And a Healthy and Happy one to you and Helen, Dave! :drink: :2vrolijk_21:
Hoist! 8)
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Well believe it or not, the mock up's mostly complete. Hopefully can get pics on Sat. We have to order 3-1/2" shorter fork tubes for the WG front end. The frame's basically a stock rigid wishbone frame setup for an Evo. Also, I can't find a round oil tank with a battery box small enough to fit. I'd need about a 4" round one and the smallest one I found was 5". Looks like I'll have to use the Horseshoe Style. Bummer! Kinda had my heart set on a round spun alum oil tank. And I need an FXE size battery in this bike for the electric start. No place to put one but under the seat in the oil tank. I'm not going kick only either just to get the round tank! Bates style Diamond Pleated Charcoal Grey Sparkle Bobber Seat with 2 Billet Coil Over Shocks on the rear of the seat w.hinged front! Might save my back a lil grief! No controls at all. A hidden toggle switch for the starter, a "bulb type" bicycle horn, front master cyl perch and clutch perch w/levers only-no controls, no signals, no speedo or idiot lights, and bicycle style handgrips. This will about as old school and stripped down as I can get it, while still having a battery, electric start, and hydraulic disc brakes.
I'm thinking to powdercoat the frame Black, and maybe have the tank and chopped rear fender match the Charcoal Grey Sparkle Seat. No front fender. Youze got any ideas on paint for it? I'll listen. Just don't be surprised if it winds up Rattle Can Flat Black! ;D ;) :2vrolijk_21:
Hoist! 8)
I know that sometime tomorrow this is goinge to make a lot more sense :rolleyes4: .
But for now, Sounds Great Man. Rock On!!
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I know that sometime tomorrow this is goinge to make a lot more sense :rolleyes4: .
But for now, Sounds Great Man. Rock On!!
HeHe!!! Thanks Don! Don't worry about nuthin and enjoy your festivities man! Rome didn't get built in a day, and my bikes will take even longer than that! ;D ;D ;D
HNY, ya DM!!! :drink: :drink: :drink: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:
Hoist! 8)
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Well believe it or not, the mock up's mostly complete. Hopefully can get pics on Sat. We have to order 3-1/2" shorter fork tubes for the WG front end. The frame's basically a stock rigid wishbone frame setup for an Evo. Also, I can't find a round oil tank with a battery box small enough to fit. I'd need about a 4" round one and the smallest one I found was 5". Looks like I'll have to use the Horseshoe Style. Bummer! Kinda had my heart set on a round spun alum oil tank. And I need an FXE size battery in this bike for the electric start. No place to put one but under the seat in the oil tank. I'm not going kick only either just to get the round tank! Bates style Diamond Pleated Charcoal Grey Sparkle Bobber Seat with 2 Billet Coil Over Shocks on the rear of the seat w.hinged front! Might save my back a lil grief! No controls at all. A hidden toggle switch for the starter, a "bulb type" bicycle horn, front master cyl perch and clutch perch w/levers only-no controls, no signals, no speedo or idiot lights, and bicycle style handgrips. This will about as old school and stripped down as I can get it, while still having a battery, electric start, and hydraulic disc brakes.
I'm thinking to powdercoat the frame Black, and maybe have the tank and chopped rear fender match the Charcoal Grey Sparkle Seat. No front fender. Youze got any ideas on paint for it? I'll listen. Just don't be surprised if it winds up Rattle Can Flat Black! ;D ;) :2vrolijk_21:
Hoist! 8)
As I read what is highlighted the first thing that came to my mind was Exile Choppers. Have you checked w/them?
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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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Rattle can is good, I know someone who only uses weber grill paint...That way when or if details it (washed in the rain), he can spray it all..
Or stupid amounts of flake, and engraving...hard to say what goes for a bob...I know it will be right for you! :2vrolijk_21:
Can't wait for the pics...
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As I read what is highlighted the first thing that came to my mind was Exile Choppers. Have you checked w/them?
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
Thanks Gary, yes I did. Russel's site says he makes on to fit with electric start, but check it out!
OB15 'electric start' oilbag, 15" width, 7" diameter, 5.5"x3.7"x4.7" deep battery box $699
OB15 has clearance on the underside to clear the electric start. Both ends are fully round, but some clearancing of the lower left side of the oilbag may be necessary to clear the starter nose on your primary. This part of the oilbag contains no oil and can simply be filed into shape for a perfect fit for your project. Oilbags are internally plumbed allowing all three lines to exit at the lower rear right-side of the bag, perfect for running the lines under the transmission end cover to the oil-pump. From left to right (of bike) the outlets are RETURN, FEED, VENT. Oilbags are supplied in a ready-to-paint raw state.
Additional charge to polish oilbag $40
612089 Oilbag mounting bushings (4) $25
492700 Outlet fittings, straight (3) $15
58-1322 Yuasa YTX20HL-BS -fits OB15 $99
:vrolijk27: :vrolijk27: :vrolijk27: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss:
This is an extremely low budget build. For that $$$, I'll live with a Horseshoe Tank! ;)
Hoist! 8)
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Rattle can is good, I know someone who only uses weber grill paint...That way when or if details it (washed in the rain), he can spray it all..
Or stupid amounts of flake, and engraving...hard to say what goes for a bob...I know it will be right for you! :2vrolijk_21:
Can't wait for the pics...
HeHe!!! Exactly my dilemma Mike! :nixweiss: :D ;)
Hoist! 8)
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I kinda like the flake...being one and all... :P
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Thanks Gary, yes I did. Russel's site says he makes on to fit with electric start, but check it out!
OB15 'electric start' oilbag, 15" width, 7" diameter, 5.5"x3.7"x4.7" deep battery box $699
OB15 has clearance on the underside to clear the electric start. Both ends are fully round, but some clearancing of the lower left side of the oilbag may be necessary to clear the starter nose on your primary. This part of the oilbag contains no oil and can simply be filed into shape for a perfect fit for your project. Oilbags are internally plumbed allowing all three lines to exit at the lower rear right-side of the bag, perfect for running the lines under the transmission end cover to the oil-pump. From left to right (of bike) the outlets are RETURN, FEED, VENT. Oilbags are supplied in a ready-to-paint raw state.
Additional charge to polish oilbag $40
612089 Oilbag mounting bushings (4) $25
492700 Outlet fittings, straight (3) $15
58-1322 Yuasa YTX20HL-BS -fits OB15 $99
:vrolijk27: :vrolijk27: :vrolijk27: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss:
This is an extremely low budget build. For that $$$, I'll live with a Horseshoe Tank! ;)
Hoist! 8)
Ok, understood. :2vrolijk_21:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
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Run the round oil bag and hang the battery on the outside of the frame in a artillery shell box. This is a Bobber, no need to hide anything. Stick the battery in front of the motor.......
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Run the round oil bag and hang the battery on the outside of the frame in a artillery shell box. This is a Bobber, no need to hide anything. Stick the battery in front of the motor.......
Nah, the only spot Vern thinks it'll look decent is on the left side, built out on the frame in the rear by the wheel. He's put them there before. But I agree with him, it'll look a lil hokey. I wish there were room on the frame bottom, behind the trans. But not with kicker style frames! Thanks Mike! :2vrolijk_21:
Hoist! 8)
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What about a battery that you can sit sideways/on it's side hidden away somewhere else? :nixweiss:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
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Lookin' forward to seein' this one...
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What about a battery that you can sit sideways/on it's side hidden away somewhere else? :nixweiss:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
HeHe!!! Find some room Gary. Vern's built many of these in the last 20 years. He told me my options. I spent hours coming to the conclusion that there's no reasonable option but the Horseshoe!
Paughco
Wishbone Rigid Frame
for 4-Speed Big Twins
True Old-School Bobber for Pan, Shovel and Evo Engines!
High-quality frame accommodates any Big Twin engine except Twin Cam 88
including strokers and Evolution motors, with 4-speed transmissions and
chain final drives. Necks have a stock (30) rake and no stretch in the front
down tubes.
This is true old-school bobber.
Frame includes a Manufacturer s Statement of Origin (MSO) for registration.
Hoist! 8)
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Lookin' forward to seein' this one...
Well then just keep the channel tuned here Jock! And a Very HNY to ya man! :drink: :2vrolijk_21:
Hoist! 8)
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Will do...back at ya... :2vrolijk_21:
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HeHe!!! Find some room Gary. Vern's built many of these in the last 20 years. He told me my options. I spent hours coming to the conclusion that there's no reasonable option but the Horseshoe!
Paughco
Wishbone Rigid Frame
for 4-Speed Big Twins
True Old-School Bobber for Pan, Shovel and Evo Engines!
High-quality frame accommodates any Big Twin engine except Twin Cam 88
including strokers and Evolution motors, with 4-speed transmissions and
chain final drives. Necks have a stock (30) rake and no stretch in the front
down tubes.
This is true old-school bobber.
Frame includes a Manufacturer s Statement of Origin (MSO) for registration.
Hoist! 8)
Was a thought... heh.... you know you could go w/o a battery all together and make it really "ole skool". :D :D I bet Vern would go for that. :2vrolijk_21:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
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Was a thought... heh.... you know you could go w/o a battery all together and make it really "ole skool". :D :D I bet Vern would go for that. :2vrolijk_21:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
HeHe!!! Yep, he had a couple to save the round tank! First a Magneto and no battery, then a lil baby battery for ignition and lights only. But I'm past kick only now Gary. I laughed, thanked him, and told him to put the Horseshoe and larger electric start battery in! I'll only use the kicker if the starter fails! :-[ ??? :D ;)
Hoist! 8)
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HeHe!!! Yep, he had a couple to save the round tank! First a Magneto and no battery, then a lil baby battery for ignition and lights only. But I'm past kick only now Gary. I laughed, thanked him, and told him to put the Horseshoe and larger electric start battery in! I'll only use the kicker if the starter fails! :-[ ??? :D ;)
Hoist! 8)
Ole Fart!!!! :huepfenjump3: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenlol2:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
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Ole Fart!!!! :huepfenjump3: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenlol2:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
Xactly! I'd like to see you kick over that 10.5:1 Evo Gary these days! :o ::) ;D ;D ;D :2vrolijk_21:
Hoist! 8)
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Xactly! I'd like to see you kick over that 10.5:1 Evo Gary these days! :o ::) ;D ;D ;D :2vrolijk_21:
Hoist! 8)
Hmmm... might be able to :nixweiss:..... right hip is still good.... just have to make sure I kick all they way thru.... otherwise I'll be seeing the surgeon for another hip. :oops: :-[ :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:
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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
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Hmmm... might be able to :nixweiss:..... right hip is still good.... just have to make sure I kick all they way thru.... otherwise I'll be seeing the surgeon for another hip. :oops: :-[ :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
HeHe!!! And I'm not ready for a new hip. Or knee or ankle either for that matter, when that baby kicks back at ya! :nixweiss: :D ;)
Hoist! 8)
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HeHe!!! And I'm not ready for a new hip. Or knee or ankle either for that matter, when that baby kicks back at ya! :nixweiss: :D ;)
Hoist! 8)
True dat!!! :2vrolijk_21:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
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One of the pieces that most interest me is the utilization of old parts...That's what I am typing about...
(http://www.gluegluedesign.com/img_swf/opos/respect-the-old-school-opos11.jpg)
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I see a spot, right there under the trans on its side.
See pic! ;)
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I see a spot, right there under the trans on its side.
See pic! ;)
Is this your bike?
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Is this your bike?
Yes it is.
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I see a spot, right there under the trans on its side.
See pic! ;)
If there is a will, there is a way... Thanks Mike. :2vrolijk_21:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
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I see a spot, right there under the trans on its side.
See pic! ;)
HeHe!!! Oh, ya mean where the seat post is on my frame! Mine's bone stock specs Mike, not no Chopper specs. 30 deg rake, no stretch, no lift! NO ROOM!!! ??? :D ;)
Hoist! 8)
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No seat post. Lift, stretch, rake is irrelevant. It is UNDER the bike, UNDER the trans. There isn't anything under there but space.
Swing over to chopperweb.info and look around. There are as many Bobber projects there as there are CVO's here. ;D
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No seat post. Lift, stretch, rake is irrelevant. It is UNDER the bike, UNDER the trans. There isn't anything under there but space.
Swing over to chopperweb.info and look around. There are as many Bobber projects there as there are CVO's here. ;D
Under the Frame?? How far into the frame can you tuck it in underneath? I'd prefer not to have a battery below the frame line riding thru this potholed city! :nixweiss:
Hoist! 8)
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chopperweb.info
HeHe!!! "You must be registered to view images." :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss:
No way man, not another Forum for me!!! :o ;D ;D ;D ;)
Hoist! 8)
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I'll look and see if I have a side shot of either of mine done this way. The battery is tucked up tight against the bottom of the trans plate. Since transmissions use studs I remove them and use bolts that I countersink into the bottom of the trans plate (Redneck did the frst one for me). The battery tray itself has holes in it and is bolted to the trans plate. I use standard Softail batteries from a Twin Cam.
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I'll look and see if I have a side shot of either of mine done this way. The battery is tucked up tight against the bottom of the trans plate. Since transmissions use studs I remove them and use bolts that I countersink into the bottom of the trans plate (Redneck did the frst one for me). The battery tray itself has holes in it and is bolted to the trans plate. I use standard Softail batteries from a Twin Cam.
Does it protrude below the frame at all that way? :confused5:
Hoist! 8)
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The short answer is NO it does not hang below the frame. My battery tray is dead nuts flush with the frame.
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The short answer is NO it does not hang below the frame. My battery tray is dead nuts flush with the frame.
And what's it got, some type of skid plate under the battery?
Hoist! 8)
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And what's it got, some type of skid plate under the battery?
Hoist! 8)
Man!!! I hear the wheels turning all the way down here :idea2:... I think a plan is coming together. :2vrolijk_21:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
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And what's it got, some type of skid plate under the battery?
Hoist! 8)
Yes. The battery tray itself is made of steel.
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Man!!! I hear the wheels turning all the way down here :idea2:... I think a plan is coming together. :2vrolijk_21:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
There is always more than one way to get things done. ;D :2vrolijk_21:
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Measure a battery and than the distance from the bottom of your frame rails to the bottom of the trans mount.
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Checked out my buddy's wishbone frame tonight! NO FRIGGIN WAY TO PUT A BATTERY UNDERNEATH WITHIN THE FRAME! Them original HD wishbone frames were never made for electric start. That battery would hang below the frame rail by at least half the battery depth! And the bike's very low as it is. I think I'm done thinking about this and am OK with the Horseshoe tank. Vern was at the party and pointed out all the obstacles on my buddy Leroy's Panhead, to doing what I was hoping for with the OT. There's a cross member below the trans on these frames too, preventing you from locating a tank there. Maybe you chopper guys with modified or aftermarket chopper frames can do this OK. But it ain't happening on a HD Wishbone frame! Thanks for trying to help. ;) :2vrolijk_21:
Hoist! 8)
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Checked out my buddy's wishbone frame tonight! NO FRIGGIN WAY TO PUT A BATTERY UNDERNEATH WITHIN THE FRAME! Them original HD wishbone frames were never made for electric start. That battery would hang below the frame rail by at least half the battery depth! And the bike's very low as it is. I think I'm done thinking about this and am OK with the Horseshoe tank. Vern was at the party and pointed out all the obstacles on my buddy Leroy's Panhead, to doing what I was hoping for with the OT. There's a cross member below the trans on these frames too, preventing you from locating a tank there. Maybe you chopper guys with modified or aftermarket chopper frames can do this OK. But it ain't happening on a HD Wishbone frame! Thanks for trying to help. ;) :2vrolijk_21:
Hoist! 8)
Howie
My last chopper project was a Paughco wishbone replica frame. It was set-up to work with Evo Softail parts. I used a Milwaukee Iron oil tank like the one you're talking about, a rebuilt RevTech 100" motor with a Del'Orto dual throat and an Ultima 6 speed. 85 Anny H-D Bad Boy Springer front end (complete with brakes) , 5 gallon flat side tanks and 40 spoke wire wheels. 12" apes on 4" risers. Fitting the rear brake was a bit of a bitch as was lining up the drive train. I was in process of buying the primary guts when the CVO site member selling them to me flat out disappeared. Twolane and I were never able to find out if he passed away or what.(hd_tex ?) Anyway, I got stuck in neutral during that wait for parts period and ended up selling the 75% completed project to an old bro in Maine about 18 months ago for the $7,500 I had in it. He bought the primary guts, starter, wiring harness, a sprung solo seat, flat rear fender and strut and a set of Paul Yaffe X-Pipes (blacked out shotguns with chome heat shields that look like a 50 Cal gun barrel) from JP Cycles. Those were the only new parts to my knowledge. He claims he's only got $11k in it complete. Next time you're up my way at the lake in Maine, we'll go hunt the guy up. I haven' seen it finished myself.
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Checked out my buddy's wishbone frame tonight! NO FRIGGIN WAY TO PUT A BATTERY UNDERNEATH WITHIN THE FRAME! Them original HD wishbone frames were never made for electric start. That battery would hang below the frame rail by at least half the battery depth! And the bike's very low as it is. I think I'm done thinking about this and am OK with the Horseshoe tank. Vern was at the party and pointed out all the obstacles on my buddy Leroy's Panhead, to doing what I was hoping for with the OT. There's a cross member below the trans on these frames too, preventing you from locating a tank there. Maybe you chopper guys with modified or aftermarket chopper frames can do this OK. But it ain't happening on a HD Wishbone frame! Thanks for trying to help. ;) :2vrolijk_21:
Hoist! 8)
Oh well we tried. :( But you know this dilemma isn't nothing that a sawzall and a little welding wouldn't fix. :D :D
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
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Oh well we tried. :( But you know this dilemma isn't nothing that a sawzall and a little welding wouldn't fix. :D :D
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
I'm buildin a choppa, not choppin a builda! :D :D :D ;)
Howie
My last chopper project was a Paughco wishbone replica frame. It was set-up to work with Evo Softail parts. I used a Milwaukee Iron oil tank like the one you're talking about, a rebuilt RevTech 100" motor with a Del'Orto dual throat and an Ultima 6 speed. 85 Anny H-D Bad Boy Springer front end (complete with brakes) , 5 gallon flat side tanks and 40 spoke wire wheels. 12" apes on 4" risers. Fitting the rear brake was a bit of a bitch as was lining up the drive train. I was in process of buying the primary guts when the CVO site member selling them to me flat out disappeared. Twolane and I were never able to find out if he passed away or what.(hd_tex ?) Anyway, I got stuck in neutral during that wait for parts period and ended up selling the 75% completed project to an old bro in Maine about 18 months ago for the $7,500 I had in it. He bought the primary guts, starter, wiring harness, a sprung solo seat, flat rear fender and strut and a set of Paul Yaffe X-Pipes (blacked out shotguns with chome heat shields that look like a 50 Cal gun barrel) from JP Cycles. Those were the only new parts to my knowledge. He claims he's only got $11k in it complete. Next time you're up my way at the lake in Maine, we'll go hunt the guy up. I haven' seen it finished myself.
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MI doesn't show an OT w/Battery Tray either. Like I said, Vern's already been thru this a buncha times already, and the bike is now mocked up w/the Horseshoe. Too bad you had to give that project bobber away. I'd love to go check it out w/ya this summer though! :2vrolijk_21:
Appreciate everyone trying to find a small OT w/Battery Tray! Now we can continue with the build. Yesterday's scramble was because Vern went to town on this thing the last 2 days, and I didn't want to hold up the process. But didn't want to settle til I was convinced there was no other options. Well, I'm convinced and we'll move forward from here! Thanks gang!!! :huepfenjump3:
Hoist! 8)
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I'm buildin a choppa, not choppin a builda! :D :D :D ;)
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Hoist! 8)
:zroflmao: :zroflmao: :2vrolijk_21:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
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I'll work my way over to the shop today, or tomorrow latest, to get some pics of the mocked up Hoist Bobber! Can't wait to see what it looks like now. I'm not convinced I'm keeping the 16" FB wheel up front though. Might put a 21 on there instead. I'll have to see what she looks like after we get the shorter fork tubes in. I'm sure ya'll will have plenty of suggestions after I get the pics up! ::) ;D :2vrolijk_21:
Hoist! 8)
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Hoist
Have ya thought about moving the oil tank out to the front of the frame?? :nixweiss:
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Interesting setup Pete! That frame is a different configuration than a HD wishbone. He had no room under the seat and had to get creative it appears. That frame also has room behind the tranny for a battery, which is where I thought I'd wind up putting mine. But there's no room for an electric start battery back there, just a kick-only battery. No offense, but I'm not crazy about that tank up front like that. Nice bike though! Thanks for the suggestion and pics! :2vrolijk_21:
Hoist! 8)
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I'm not real crazy about it myself but when I seen that picture thought I might as well throw it out there..
Pete
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I'm not real crazy about it myself but when I seen that picture thought I might as well throw it out there..
Pete
Thanks Pete. After going over EVERY OPTION we could think of, we just went with the Horseshoe tank. I'm kinda over not having the round one now. ;)
Hoist! 8)
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MI doesn't show an OT w/Battery Tray either. Like I said, Vern's already been thru this a buncha times already, and the bike is now mocked up w/the Horseshoe. Too bad you had to give that project bobber away. I'd love to go check it out w/ya this summer though! :2vrolijk_21:
Appreciate everyone trying to find a small OT w/Battery Tray! Now we can continue with the build. Yesterday's scramble was because Vern went to town on this thing the last 2 days, and I didn't want to hold up the process. But didn't want to settle til I was convinced there was no other options. Well, I'm convinced and we'll move forward from here! Thanks gang!!! :huepfenjump3:
Hoist! 8)
Howie
I give you my word we sourced this through JP Cycles and it was from Milwaukee Iron. If it's been discontinued c'est la vie, but I'm not makin chit up as I go along just to tell a story amigo
B B
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Howie
I give you my word we sourced this through JP Cycles and it was from Milwaukee Iron. If it's been discontinued c'est la vie, but I'm not makin chit up as I go along just to tell a story amigo
B B
I know B B! Just tellin ya what I found on MI's site, and on JP's! Nothin! ;)
Thanks anyway man! :2vrolijk_21:
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Howi3, I found a jar of the "ice pearls" from my 07 serk paint job, lemme know if you need em for the bobb..
Maybe a matching psuedoserk paint job for the bob?? Black ice, blue pinnage, pewter leaf on the scalloped frisco..I'm just sayin.. ;D
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Howi3, I found a jar of the "ice pearls" from my 07 serk paint job, lemme know if you need em for the bobb..
Maybe a matching psuedoserk paint job for the bob?? Black ice, blue pinnage, pewter leaf on the scalloped frisco..I'm just sayin.. ;D
You have some nice ideas there Mike. I first have to decide whether I'm doing a paint job, or just rattle can! Might just rattle can first, then decide after. Not much to pull a peanut and a chopped fender off! But if I do paint, I'll keep ya in mind. I like the idea of complimenting Cybil's paint! :2vrolijk_21:
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Goin to check out the Hoist Bobber now. Hopefully have some pics for youze tonight! Later! :2vrolijk_21:
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HeHe!!! Hoist Bobber mock up pics are in! I'm really likin this bike!!! Hope youze do too!!! :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:
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With Cybil on the lift behind her. That's Frankie (hehe! the person!) on the right!
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Thanks Neal! Now Vern don't take kindly to pics of himself, but I snuck him into a few. There he is in his machine shop behind the Hoist Bobber! ;)
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And here he is again behind the bike, BSing w/Frankie!
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The rest are just various angles of the bike.
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Cool shot! Notice the old style S&S Cycle (instead of S&S Super) Air Cleaner Cover with the raised lettering. Old School baby!
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We're trying to figure out the mounting requirements for Evo pipes on a rigid. I'll get into that when the pics are done!!
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Last one for now! ;)
So far, out of everything you see here, I had to but the frame, gas tank, oil tank, used front wheel and front rotor. Still need a rear fender, but there's not much more I'll need. EVERYTHING else came off my '85 FXWG, which is now completely redone CVO Stlye with a 110" Evo and a 6-speed, Traxxion, and PM! :2vrolijk_21:
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Here's an interesting Dyna Frankie was working on. Artie's in the background. He's the shop wiring guru!
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Hard to tell with the lighting, but excellent old school paint job on it!
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Last one of the Dyna! Other side! ;)
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So now we're figuring on what to do with the exhaust. The frame is a replica HD Wishbone frame, setup to fit an Evo. But that's all that's setup for the Evo. No provisions for mounting an Evo style exhaust. I'm using the old Cycle Shack M Pipes from my '85 FXWG. That uses a large rear bracket, which would normally mount to the frame and pick up both mufflers at the rear. This frame is nowhere close to allowing the bracket to attach to the frame. Vern's thinking of either welding it to the frame. But I'd rather not have it at all. So now he's looking at fabricating some tabs and brackets at the exhaust attaching points only, so ya barely see any mounting bracketry. I like that idea. :2vrolijk_21:
I think I like the 16" front wheel on it too. We'll make the final call after we get the 3-1/2" under fork tubes on it first. You can see with the bike in the air, how much lower the front wheel is compared to the rear. That's why we need the shorter fork tubes. Then it'll sit level, and nice and low! We still have to weld some tabs for the shocks for the hinged solo Jammer seat I'm planning on running on this. The gas tank's not setup yert. I want that "Frisco'd" up so the bottom is parallel with the backbone. But it's getting close now. After all the welding's done, we can take it apart and send the frame out for powder coating! Can't wait now!!! ;)
It ain't a motorcycle baby, it's a CHOPPER!!! :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:
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It ain't a motorcycle baby, it's a CHOPPER!!! :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:
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Can't stand Fatboy wheels. But I'm digging that bike cart!
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Hoist that bobber is really going to look good when its done.
That is one sweeeeeeeeeeeet ride!!!!!!! :2vrolijk_21:
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Can't stand Fatboy wheels. But I'm digging that bike cart!
The bike cart's cool, huh Don! :2vrolijk_21:
Cybil's coming off the lift for now while Vern get's all the engine parts together and builds the motor. The Rigid will go up on the lift for the rest of the mockup. We still have to get the Jammer Bates style solo seat (and hardware, mounting tabs and shocks) and the 3-1/2 under fork legs and get everything set for all the welding of all the tabs, etc.
I'm not sure on them FB wheels either. I'm pretty OK with a 16 up front, not necessarily on a FB wheel. But I'm thinkin with the short WG front end, a 21 spoke might look really good up there too, maybe better. I can leave that rear rim on with it. It's actually not a FB rim, but an '87 FXLR rim. It's been on my '85 FXWG for years! We'll see!!! ;)
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Hoist that bobber is really going to look good when its done.
That is one sweeeeeeeeeeeet ride!!!!!!! :2vrolijk_21:
Jo Mo NYC :coolblue:
Thanks Joe! It's where your Softail gets it's great looks from!!! ;) :2vrolijk_21:
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i like the FB wheel up front, gives it an aggressive look
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i like the FB wheel up front, gives it an aggressive look
Thanks Neal. That's what I thought when I first saw it on too. I wasn't sure when I first thought about it for this bike. But it surprised me a lil (in a good way) when I actually saw it on the bike. I'll see how it looks with the shorter fork tubes and with the bike sitting on the ground. ;)
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Hey Hoist,
What do you think about an 18 0n the front instead of a FB or a 21 ?
justt a thought.
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Hey Hoist,
What do you think about an 18 0n the front instead of a FB or a 21 ?
justt a thought.
Jo Mo NYC :coolblue:
I thought about the wheel size thing. 18's are cool when ya run em F&R. Didn't want to go that route. Thought about a 19" on the front, but it's just not right on a WG. The 16" and the 21" are the 2 choices I like. And I have the stuff to go either route! ;)
Thanks Joe! :2vrolijk_21:
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The bike cart's cool, huh Don! :2vrolijk_21:
But I'm thinkin with the short WG front end, a 21 spoke might look really good up there too, maybe better. I can leave that rear rim on with it.
Picture I get when I close my eyes seems better (to my tastes) with that idea. It'll be a blast to ride no matter what. For a Bobber that's all that matters anyway. They have to look less than butt ugly and be a total blast to ride.
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Hoist what bars are you going to use?
Z bars or Drag bars I like the 21, Ape hangers or pull backs the 16,
just my two cents. What ever you do I know it's going to be hot !!!!
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Hoist what bars are you going to use?
Z bars or Drag bars I like the 21, Ape hangers or pull backs the 16,
just my two cents. What ever you do I know it's going to be hot !!!!
Jo Mo NYC :coolblue:
HeHe!!! What ya see there now is what's stayin Joe! That whole front end came off my FXWG, and it's going on this just the way it came off and you see it here! ;)
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Hoist took another look, hard call. 16 is hot but it needs to be spokes and no front fender, same for 21.
krylon flat black, silver gray gost flames again just my two cents.
I know like all your bikes this is going to be another very Hoist ride.
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Hoist took another look, hard call. 16 is hot but it needs to be spokes and no front fender, same for 21.
krylon flat black, silver gray gost flames again just my two cents.
I know like all your bikes this is going to be another very Hoist ride.
Jo Mo NYC :coolblue:
HeHe!!! You're right, there'll be no front fender either way. If it stays 16", it'll be the FB wheel, cause that's what I got! If it goes 21", it'll prolly be spokes. And if it goes rattlecan, it'll be rattlecan all the way. But I might have a friend paint it. (you met my buddy Joe Sal whose shop's in Astoria) Prolly just try to match the Jammer charcoal grey sparkle solo seat I want to use. Otherwise, prolly flat black rattlecan! Remember....................VERY LOW BUDGET BUILD, with as many used parts as I can get my hands on for it!!! Think Rat Bike Bobber, as opposed to Fancy Custom Chopper!!! ;) :2vrolijk_21:
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I hear you so maybe we should start a tread donations accepted for the Hoist bobb
cash or parts. Be a part of this grate build, to help one of our own !!!!
I have $ 20.00 to put in the pot when I see you on the 24th.
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I hear you so maybe we should start a tread donations accepted for the Hoist bobb
cash or parts. Be a part of this grate build, to help one of our own !!!!
I have $ 20.00 to put in the pot when I see you on the 24th.
Jo Mo NYC :coolblue:
HeHe!!! Yeah Joe, maybe charge at the door, huh!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Parts or cash,cool
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Just got back from checking the progress on the HB bike. Snowing real good when I left. Still no ridin here for a bit. The rear fender's on, cut, and loosely in place. Same with the tank. We strapped the front fork down to see the look with the shorter tubes, but couldn't crank the strap enough to reduce the leg height by the full 3.5". There's still another inch shorter to go (you can see the electrical tape on the right leg showing where the full 3.5" shorter would be). But ya can get the general idea of the look. We're waiting for the Jammer Solo Sparkle Charcoal Grey Diamond pleated Seat and Seat Shock Absorber Kit (with the weld tabs for the seat pan and frame) to show up to finish all the tab mounting, and get it all weled up and out for powdercoating. I'm having a buddy paint the tank and fender the same Sparkle Charcoal Grey color to match the seat. It's coming along nice. It'll be the nicest 5 Grand bike I can build! ;)
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Just a few more shots. ;)
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Last one for today! Stay tuned for more progress! :2vrolijk_21:
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Looks AWESOME, Howie! One day........I hope I can do something like that in my garage. The HB is going to be a very nice machine. Looking forward to seeing it. :2vrolijk_21:
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Looks great, Howie!! My butt hurts after seeing those pics. for some reason, though! :o ::) :P
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Thanks guys! :2vrolijk_21:
Here's a taste of the remaining stuff. The Old Shool Solo Charcoal Metal Flake Seat-Diamond
Like I said, the tank and rear fender will be the same color. ;)
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The Grips are Licks Jellies, in Charcoal Metal Flake.
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This is the Rockem & Sockem seat shock kit. We're just not using the seat pan that comes with it.
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This is the Tail Light I think I'm gonna use. The Black Beauty Vintage Tail Light.
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I do not think any of us will see that bike at Eureka or Maggie Valley
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I do not think any of us will see that bike at Eureka or Maggie Valley
Like Howie doesn't carry bike pictures in his wallet.....
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And this is the Horn! The Chrome Bulb Horn! :huepfenjump3:
If I mount a light switch and starter button the handlebars, it'll be the 2 on this page also.
So far my ideas are coming together. I hope it looks as good as I'm picturing when I'm done. How bad can it be regardless for what it's costing! ;) :2vrolijk_21:
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I do not think any of us will see that bike at Eureka or Maggie Valley
Like Howie doesn't carry bike pictures in his wallet.....
Are ya kidding! You'll have better pics here! And to see it, you'll have to get yer asses to NYC! My ass ain't going more than around the neighborhood on that thing!!! ::) ;D ;)
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ok i want it completed and in the driveway by the 24th
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ok i want it completed and in the driveway by the 24th
Nope! But you can ride it at the summer party!!! ;) :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:
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Nope! But you can ride it at the summer party!!! ;) :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:
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Hoist,
She is so cool. Looking at that build really makes me wish that I had the means to build my own.
You decided on a color ! charcoal gray. I think you should consider some flat black ghost flames
on the tank :2vrolijk_21: What ever you do that bike is truly you.
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Hoist,
She is so cool. Looking at that build really makes me wish that I had the means to build my own.
You decided on a color ! charcoal gray. I think you should consider some flat black ghost flames
on the tank :2vrolijk_21: What ever you do that bike is truly you.
Jo Mo NYC :coolblue:
Thanks Joe! Funny you say that about the tank. I might do something similar with these Jammer Gas Tank Knee Pads (Small). That'll break it up al lil, and still allow me a cheaper, 1-color paint job. Then maybe some custom pinstriping, maybe a red. :2vrolijk_21:
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Bike is looking good. Did I mention I think you're a masochist ? I went through the build it from scratch phase. It lasted about 20 years. I hope for Binx's sake, this is not your first from scratch bike. She's already got enough of your "mistresses" to contend with :oops: But if you weren't Weird Al with no hair and an obsession for all thing H-D, she and the rest of us wouldn't love you us much brother :P
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Hoist,
I was going to suggest a red pin stripe but did not knowing that you were trying to keep the cost down.
But I think you are on the right path to the perfect Hoist Bobber. Can't wait to see it.
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Bike is looking good. Did I mention I think you're a masochist ? I went through the build it from scratch phase. It lasted about 20 years. I hope for Binx's sake, this is not your first from scratch bike. She's already got enough of your "mistresses" to contend with :oops: But if you weren't Weird Al with no hair and an obsession for all thing H-D, she and the rest of us wouldn't love you us much brother :P
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HeHe!!! Thanks B B, I think?!!! :confused5: :D :D :D :2vrolijk_21:
I'm already lookin past this to the next one!!! And she's happy my mistresses aren't human! It ain't cheatin if they aren't human, is it? ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Can't use the top mounted tailight I was planning on with this rear fender. Need a side mount for the licence plate anyway. So the chopper guys (Jammer) again to the rescue. I'm using this Universal Tailight/Licencence Plate Assembly w/Catseye Tailght. ;)
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I will however be able to keep any switches off of the bars. We're using this Jammer Custom Ignition Switch. Vern's making a bracket for it somewhere. It's a car type spring-loaded switch that uses the key to start, and is waterproof. The light off-low-hi switch will be a toggle mounted in the headlight housing. The horn is that Bulb type bicycle horn. No signals. No kill switch. Just the Brake lever perch w/master cylinder and an old school style throttle assembly on right, and Clutch lever perch and grip on left. I found a set of Charcoal Grey Metalflake grips online. I hope they match the seat OK. ;)
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off to a good start! thats gonna be a City bike for sure , nice and short for dodging traffic!
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off to a good start! thats gonna be a City bike for sure , nice and short for dodging traffic!
HeHe!!! Thanks! You know the routine Mark! ;) :2vrolijk_21:
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Cool, look what I just found! Now I'm getting a cool round tailight/license plate assembly that I like! That Jammer Catseye one would have done OK, but this one is really COOL!!! ;) :2vrolijk_21: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:
Model A Ford Bobber Style
Side Mount Tail Light
$239.95
-Measures: 7 "H X 4.25 "W
-Fits: Most bike styles (with or without shocks)
-Finish: Stainless Steel light housing, chrome frame with powdercoated backing plate. Glass Stop lens.
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Hey Howie,
I got a nice 16" gangsta whitewall with more than 1/2 the tread still left on it you can have if you're going for that look
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Hey Howie,
I got a nice 16" gangsta whitewall with more than 1/2 the tread still left on it you can have if you're going for that look
B B
Thanks B B! Not really goin for that look per say, but that was the nicest cheap Tailight/License Plate Assembly I've seen. Most were them billet ones with catseye, iron cross, etc. tailights. Same old, same old. I thought this would be different, and go more with the bike's style than a modern billet piece! ;)
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Hoist that the tail light :2vrolijk_21: now you need to come up with a cool vanity plate.
Jo Mo NYC :coolblue:
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Hoist that the tail light :2vrolijk_21: now you need to come up with a cool vanity plate.
Jo Mo NYC :coolblue:
Thanks Joe. Just when I thought I was stuck with that moden style Tailight the other day, I got a Dennis Kirk catalog in the mail yesterday. And that tailight just popped out of the book at me! Made just for the Hoist Bobber! ;) :2vrolijk_21:
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This project looks like a blast--I'm living this vicariously through you. :2vrolijk_21:
I don't know what you do for a living but you need to be doing something with bikes, if you aren't already. For money, I mean. ;)
Binx is an absolute Saint. Do something nice for that wonderful woman.
I like the knee pad idea. 8) Anything that takes me back to my brit bike/Triumph days.
This is better than any of those biker buildoff shows.
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This project looks like a blast--I'm living this vicariously through you. :2vrolijk_21:
I don't know what you do for a living but you need to be doing something with bikes, if you aren't already. For money, I mean. ;)
Binx is an absolute Saint. Do something nice for that wonderful woman.
I like the knee pad idea. 8) Anything that takes me back to my brit bike/Triumph days.
This is better than any of those biker buildoff shows.
That's a dangerous place to be!! :D ;)
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That's why I said "vicariously". ;D ;D
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Hey Howie, here's some seats for you.
http://denver.craigslist.org/mcy/988720420.html
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Nice to see you putting that Fat Boy wheel to good use. Looking very sweet!
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This project looks like a blast--I'm living this vicariously through you. :2vrolijk_21:
I don't know what you do for a living but you need to be doing something with bikes, if you aren't already. For money, I mean. ;)
Binx is an absolute Saint. Do something nice for that wonderful woman.
I like the knee pad idea. 8) Anything that takes me back to my brit bike/Triumph days.
This is better than any of those biker buildoff shows.
That's a dangerous place to be!! :D ;)
That's why I said "vicariously". ;D ;D
Thanks Mike!!! :2vrolijk_21:
HeHe!!! Craig, I didn't catch your EBCM number! ::) :P ;D
And Binx is a SAINT with all this. We've only been together about 7 years now, so she knew what she was getting into when she met me regarding this whole motorcycle thing. Unlike my ex! But it's great that she rarley objects. Instead, I just add more hours on her spa time!!! :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:
We all live vicariously thru others all the time. It's how we get ideas on what we want to do when we get the chance. Getting the chance is the key!!! This is my second ground built. The process is always fun, even though I don't actually build it myself. But my design, input, and involvement allows me to get almost as much satisfaction as turning the wrenches myself! ;)
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Hey Howie, here's some seats for you.
http://denver.craigslist.org/mcy/988720420.html
Had my heart set on a vinyl metal flake seat and grips since I envisioned building a bobber years ago. Sticking to that Craig. Thanks tho! :2vrolijk_21:
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Howie
Nice to see you putting that Fat Boy wheel to good use. Looking very sweet!
JW
Thanks Jeff! And thanks for the wheel! Funny, I was originally gonna run a speedo. After I got the wheel, I realized I can't mount a speedo drive with this sealed bearing wheel. An can't use an electronic pickup with the 4-speed either. Then I decided, STS!!! So no speedo now! Still not convinced I won't be switching to a 21" wheel. But as the bike goes now, it looks good with those 2-16's on it! :2vrolijk_21:
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What about a twist clutch?
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What about a twist clutch?
What about $$$? :nixweiss:
This bike's gonna be as close to "free" as I can get it Mike. I already have all the parts for that kinda stuff. So far, I'm still sleepin in bed. I'm trying to keep it that way! ;D ;) :2vrolijk_21:
At least til I get the Thruxton too! ??? ::)
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How much for that taillight? I thought so...! ::)
Oh yea you didn't have one of those? :P
Your gonna like Little Palm Island, you can smoke anywhere you want... :huepfenjump3:
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How much for that taillight? I thought so...! ::)
Oh yea you didn't have one of those? :P
Your gonna like Little Palm Island, you can smoke anywhere you want... :huepfenjump3:
ZACTLY!!! ::) :P ;D ;)
Then I'd have to do internal throttle and integrated F&R foot brake too, and have nothing on the bars but grips! I'd love that, but not gonna happen!!! :(
And don't I just wish I could get down there right about NOW too!!! 6 deg! Sheesh!!! :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss:
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Yeah, you can slide that twister on later after the
oops!
Givin me the bobba jones, you bastit! :D
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Yeah, you can slide that twister on later after the
oops!
Givin me the bobba jones, you bastit! :D
Well, you got the damn weather! WTH do ya think WE do up here in the winter?!!! ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Ummm...I used to be pretty good at darts....or dahts...bowling..The poor bikes just sat out freezing..is your garage heated?
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Ummm...I used to be pretty good at darts....or dahts...bowling..The poor bikes just sat out freezing..is your garage heated?
HeHe!!! It can be! I have radiant in the floor, but never turned it on. Garage is too drafty right now. I'd have to seal and insulate it if I'm gonna heat it. But it wouldn't be for the bikes! :o
I'll have to for me, after I get that Thruxton! ::) ;D ;) :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:
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TODAY's UPDATE:
Well, the mockup phase is completed. I was called in to check it out and sit on it, before taking it apart for the final welding and grinding is done to the frame. I love the way it's coming out. Of course, nothing's without it's surprises. The Bates Style Jammer Metalflake Charcoal Grey seat is actually Metalflake SILVER!!! So guess what, the color scheme changed again. They showed me the powdercoat color swatches. They have an awesome color that resembles raw aluminum. Really cool color. Not quite silver. Not shiney or chrome like. Just like unfinished aluminum! So I'm doing that for the frame, and back to flat black w/red pinstriping on the tank and rear fender. HeHe!!! A Silver/Black bike!!! Now I have to find silver metalflake grips to match the seat. The grey ones I picked up, don't really go anymore! That tailight/licence plate assembly w/the vintage style old Ford pickup truck tailight is really cool, and will go perfect on this bike. :2vrolijk_21:
Also, with that solo seat mounted up there, my Flanders Street Bars on 6" risers, which were perfect on my '85 FXWG (shown here), are too short now on this bike. I'm gonna push them forward (straight up) and see if that does it. That look is cool on a Bobber too. If not, I'll go with 12.5" Flanders Original Apes with 4" risers, or maybe just go with 16" Flanders apes with 1" risers. Not sure yet, but it looks like I'll need at least 16" off the top of the upper tree, for the bars to be right, maybe even a lil higher! :o ;)
So it's now fully apart, the frame fully weldedfully welded, and they were grinding everything down when I left. It goes straight out to powdercoat in the AM. Cybil's parts are all in now, and her motor starts going back together on Mon! Very productive day all-in-all! :huepfenjump3:
And as usual, here's a few more progress pics! ;)
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Now you see why they call it grey. In good light it's silver!
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OK, last one for now again! It might be a lil while before we get back to finishing this. Cybil's up next and she's getting done before we go back the the HB! Don't worry though! I'll be back!!! ::) ;D ;)
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At least you have the snow tires on...plan on riding soon?
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OK, last one for now again! It might be a lil while before we get back to finishing this. Cybil's up next and she's getting done before we go back the the HB! Don't worry though! I'll be back!!! ::) ;D ;)
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This is really looking sweet Howie. Being 100% honest, a lot better than I expected based on the title of the thread. You sure there's no new parts in this build ? :huepfenlol2:
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Thanks B B! :2vrolijk_21:
HeHe!!! Frame, seat, side-mount tailight/licence plate assembly, front tire, and oil tank, battery, gas tank, rear fender, bulb horn, and ignition switch. From what I recall, that's it for the new stuff! So I guess the title is misleading, huh?! ;D ;)
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At least you have the snow tires on...plan on riding soon?
Ya like them Conti's, huh Tim?! :2vrolijk_21:
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lookin good
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lookin good
HeHe!!! Betcha can't wait to ride it!!! ::) ;D ;) :2vrolijk_21:
Well, either can I!!! :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:
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HeHe!!! Betcha can't wait to ride it!!! ::) ;D ;) :2vrolijk_21:
Well, either can I!!! :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:
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well i guess its only fair if you ride it first
HeHe!!! Guaranteed I won't be! Vern prolly will!!! ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Lookin good Howie but..........get those gay reflectors off the fork down tubes. Later,Q
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Lookin good Howie but..........get those gay reflectors off the fork down tubes. Later,Q
HeHe!!! Thanks Q! Second one to comment! They've been on since '85! On this bike, your right, they gotta go! Was just noticing that in the pics today! ;D ;) :2vrolijk_21:
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A little blast from a heat gun and they're gone. That's the first thing I did on my 99 Fatboy.
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A little blast from a heat gun and they're gone. That's the first thing I did on my 99 Fatboy.
They're off all my other bikes. Don't know why I never took em off this front end. Never really thought about it. I just pry em off and rub any remaining adhesive off with my finger, or if it's really tough I use Brake Kleen! ;)
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Goo Gone also works wonders on left over sticky chit. I have a bottle with all my cleaning stuff.
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When I saw this photo it reminded me of a MV rally a couple of years ago where I ran into Click Baldwin on his Panhead Bobber. His machine was finished (or unfinished) in bare metal. He said that his crew would occasionally take a 3M scratch pad to the sheet metal to keep it looking good; maybe something to consider. :2vrolijk_21:
Being a big S&S fan you might try finding one of the original sand-cast teardrop A/C covers with raised lettering. If you happen to stumble on to one of them, make sure you grab it. :idea2: I believe that they quit making then in 1975.
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When I saw this photo it reminded me of a MV rally a couple of years ago where I ran into Click Baldwin on his Panhead Bobber. His machine was finished (or unfinished) in bare metal. He said that his crew would occasionally take a 3M scratch pad to the sheet metal to keep it looking good; maybe something to consider. :2vrolijk_21:
Being a big S&S fan you might try finding one of the original sand-cast teardrop A/C covers with raised lettering. If you happen to stumble on to one of them, make sure you grab it. :idea2: I believe that they quit making then in 1975.
HeHe!!! Funny you mention that dj! I talked with them about leaving it raw and letting it rust! Using a scratch pad to clean it up, and just let it rust from there as my paint job. Or using the scratch pad, then clearcoating it so that unpainted metal finish wouldn't rust. In the end, screw it! Rattle can black like I planned from the get go!!! And I love those old S&S covers too, but they don't mount on S&S Super E & G carbs, only the B's & D's I believe! ;) :2vrolijk_21:
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Probably way too late in the game Howie, but have you considered running a four speed tanny with this ?
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Probably way too late in the game Howie, but have you considered running a four speed tanny with this ?
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HeHe!!! It IS a 4-speed B B!!! That's a REAL kicker on there, not a fake one on a 5-speed!!! :nixweiss: ;D ;D ;D ;) :2vrolijk_21:
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HeHe!!! It IS a 4-speed B B!!! That's a REAL kicker on there, not a fake one on a 5-speed!!! :nixweiss: ;D ;D ;D ;) :2vrolijk_21:
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That's the balls Howie. Wait til you fire this up and ride it. The gearing on the old 4-speed combined with a nicely massaged Evo makes for a totally unique power band. 100% BADASS BAR BLASTER. There's no way I'm not stopping in Queens on my way to Maine. I've got to throw a leg over this baby. :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: Have you checked out Paul Yaffe X-Pipes ?
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That's the balls Howie. Wait til you fire this up and ride it. The gearing on the old 4-speed combined with a nicely massaged Evo makes for a totally unique power band. 100% BADASS BAR BLASTER. There's no way I'm not stopping in Queens on my way to Maine. I've got to throw a leg over this baby. :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: Have you checked out Paul Yaffe X-Pipes ?
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I only looked at stuff I didn't already have for this bike B B. The whole purpose was to use as many takeoff parts from from my other bikes to build this one. This entire setup came off my '85 FXWG just as you see it. These are the Cycle Shack M Pipes that came off the WG. So we welded mounts to the frame for them to get rid of the rear bracket. If I change exhaust now, it'll require rewelding new brackets on for another system, although any exhaust for an '85 FXWG should theoretically work. But I'm avoiding the temptation of sinking money into this bike. Just a fun exercise to build the coolest bike I could from a buncha spare parts! ;)
And I'm looking forward to having ya here. I'm sure you'll have a blast ridin that thing thru the City, just as I plan on doing myself with it!!! It'll be my new NYC Urban Hellriding Machine!!! :2vrolijk_21:
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" Hoist Bobber" Aka NYC Urban Hellriding machine :2vrolijk_21:
Nice logo for that bad ass bike. :idea3: when she's done ( NYC Bad Ass Biker Party )
at Bad Ass Casa Hoist. To welcome her home proper with NYC's original bad ass Hoist!!!!!!!
Jo Mo NYC :coolblue:
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" Hoist Bobber" Aka NYC Urban Hellriding machine :2vrolijk_21:
Nice logo for that bad ass bike. :idea3: when she's done ( NYC Bad Ass Biker Party )
at Bad Ass Casa Hoist. To welcome her home proper with NYC's original bad ass Hoist!!!!!!!
Jo Mo NYC :coolblue:
HeHe!!! Sounds like a plan Joe!!! Maybe we can do it the weekend after York in April, while B B is around, and before he heads up to ME. We'll see if the timing works out for that. A NYC Bad Ass Biker Party at Bad Ass Casa Hoist while B B's in town!!! Sounds perfect Joe! Great idea man!!! :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:
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Howie
I understand what your plan was for this bike and I applaud your efforts to stick to it, but looking at where you're at now is fodder for a dozen ideas of how I'd finish it. The X-pipes for instance would look so cool with the style of bike. BUT, it's your bike and your vision and more importantly your (or perhaps Binx's) wallet :D
On another note, for the entire 55 years I've been on this big blue marble, NYC has been something to be avoided. Even though I am a huge Yankees fan (People from Maine think NYC is the home of the Devil) I've either driven around it via heading through Danbury/White Plains on my way to Daytona from Maine or driven right through the middle (Cross Bronz Expressway) as I did on my way for Q's house to Maine last summer. I'm actually looking forward to riding into the belly of the beast and seeing what all the noise is about. Many many thanks for the offer of not only a place to rest my weary old bones for a night, but a guided tour and a hell of a bike ride with one of NYC's finest. Plan looks to be after the gathering on the 20th. I need to be in Maine by the end of April cause I have to turn around and drive to Ann Arbor for my daughter's Med School graduation May 7 Come to think of it, I need to start blocking out dates on a calendar or I'm gonna be a day late and many dollars short for the whole summer
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Hoist I hope it comes to be I would love to meet the Spiderman.
We can all go on a Hell raising tour of NYC
Jo Mo NYC :coolblue:
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Howie
I understand what your plan was for this bike and I applaud your efforts to stick to it, but looking at where you're at now is fodder for a dozen ideas of how I'd finish it. The X-pipes for instance would look so cool with the style of bike. BUT, it's your bike and your vision and more importantly your (or perhaps Binx's) wallet :D
On another note, for the entire 55 years I've been on this big blue marble, NYC has been something to be avoided. Even though I am a huge Yankees fan (People from Maine think NYC is the home of the Devil) I've either driven around it via heading through Danbury/White Plains on my way to Daytona from Maine or driven right through the middle (Cross Bronz Expressway) as I did on my way for Q's house to Maine last summer. I'm actually looking forward to riding into the belly of the beast and seeing what all the noise is about. Many many thanks for the offer of not only a place to rest my weary old bones for a night, but a guided tour and a hell of a bike ride with one of NYC's finest. Plan looks to be after the gathering on the 20th. I need to be in Maine by the end of April cause I have to turn around and drive to Ann Arbor for my daughter's Med School graduation May 7 Come to think of it, I need to start blocking out dates on a calendar or I'm gonna be a day late and many dollars short for the whole summer
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That's sounds like perfect timing B B!!! You can meet us in York the weekend of the 18th. York Tour is on Mon, the 20th. We'd be back here in Queens that evening. We can have the party on Sat, the 25th, and you'll still have plenty of time to get up to Sebago, 6 hours away! :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:
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Damn, this is becoming a moving target. Turns out I can't get that Aluminum powdercoating for the frame that I wanted. Decided to powdercoat it normal gloss black. The painter's gonna look at the seat and see if he can match it. If so, I'll go with that matching dark silver metalflake on the tank and rear fender, and use the black knee panels from Jammer on the tank to contrast it. If matching the seat and paint is too much hassle or too much $$$, I'm done! Going back to my original rattle can black scheme! :nixweiss: ;)
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TODAY'S UPDATE:
Well, the powdercoated frame was delivered to the shop by Action Powdercoating first thing this morning! As of now, the motor, tranny, front end (with the 3-1/2" shorter legs), oil tank, and who knows what else by now ARE ALL INSTALLED. Vern's going crazy with this thing! He's becoming an assembly menace!!! This bike's gonna be done before I know it! :2vrolijk_21:
Our local painter we use here (and friend), Freddy The Flame (who also did my '85 FXWG), said he'll match the Dark Silver Metalflake seat with the paint job for the tank and rear fender. Should be no more than 2 weeks he told Vern. I'm looking forward to all that metalflake on my new "oldster", the Hoist Bobber! Bike should be completely done within a few weeks now!!! :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:
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Excellent!
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TODAY'S UPDATE:
Well, the powdercoated frame was delivered to the shop by Action Powdercoating first thing this morning! As of now, the motor, tranny, front end (with the 3-1/2" shorter legs), oil tank, and who knows what else by now ARE ALL INSTALLED. Vern's going crazy with this thing! He's becoming an assembly menace!!! This bike's gonna be done before I know it! :2vrolijk_21:
Our local painter we use here (and friend), Freddy The Flame (who also did my '85 FXWG), said he'll match the Dark Silver Metalflake seat with the paint job for the tank and rear fender. Should be no more than 2 weeks he told Vern. I'm looking forward to all that metalflake on my new "oldster", the Hoist Bobber! Bike should be completely done within a few weeks now!!! :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:
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how far is the shop from your place?
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Howie, preparing to ride his new bobber! ::)
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how far is the shop from your place?
About 20 min. Ya wanna go? If it's nice enough, the 3 of us can ride over there. If not, we can still cage it over if you want! :2vrolijk_21:
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either way i'd love to get a sneak peak at the HB
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either way i'd love to get a sneak peak at the HB
Well, then bikes or cage, we'll head east on Sat! Try to get in as early as you can on Sat. If GH can't make it early, I'll just take you out there! ;)
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TODAY'S UPDATE:
Bike's almost together. We're ordering a new clean top motor mount. Since there's no horn being mounted there, and mine's made for a horn and is 25 YO, we're putting a clean 2-piece chrome one on. Vern's making a bracket to mount the car style ignition switch on it too. The ignition switch will engage the starter like a car and also turn on the headlight, as I don't want any switches or wires on the handlebars. There'll be no kill switch either! He's adding a toggle there too for the high beam. The horn is a bicycle bulb type horn mounted on the handlebars near the left riser. So we're waiting on the mount and painted tank & rear fender. When they come in, the bike shouldn't take much more to complete! Can't wait to see it and show it to Neal tomorrow!!! :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:
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Neal and I headed over to NSMC to show him the progress on the Hoist Bobber! It's in final assembly now. Frames all nicely powdercoated, and stuff's going back on for good. So here's some progress pics! ;)
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Obi 1 checking it out! ;)
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Note the 25 YO fork reflectors for youze that keep pointing out to me! :nixweiss:
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Oops, where'd they go? :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: ;D ;)
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This angle yielded some odd lighting! ;)
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Note the 3-1/2" shorter fork tubes on. This is how the bike sits now! ;)
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This is Artie's back. Artie took 2 years to build this chrome rigid jockey shift bike! Came out awesome. That's the following pics! :2vrolijk_21:
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Last one of the HB! Artie's bike follows! ;)
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Artie's beautiful rigid. Indian Larry dished tank!
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Everything is chromed or polished but the tank and rear fender!
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Big ole ass end! ;)
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Check out the jocky shift knob! Original door knob from the NYC Public School System! ;)
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Check this jewel out! ;)
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Sorry about the flash! ;)
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Last one for today! Great RS pic of Artie's Bobber! :2vrolijk_21:
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Oops, where'd they go? :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: ;D ;)
Reminds me of my first HD. Hated the reflectors so I removed them, then hated the boss.
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So I pulled the sliders and had them turned and plated. My early attempts at customizing. Seems like a lifetime ago (1976)
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So I pulled the sliders and had them turned and plated. My early attempts at customizing. Seems like a lifetime ago (1976)
I know a lotta guys who did that on these older front ends. I kinda like the boss cause it doesn't give it that "clean" look! :o ;D ;) :2vrolijk_21:
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TODAY'S UPDATE:
WooHoo!!! Well, the bike's almost done! Waiting on the new top motor mount, and the painted tank & fender. The minimal wiring it needed is done. Everything is mounted except those items, and the ignition switch (which is being installed in a bracket in the top mount). Hopefully everything will get done by the end next week. I can then determine if I need to change bars, and to what. But this baby don't need much else! The way it looks right now, it's a race to see which bike gets done first, the Hoist Bobber or Cybil!!! Maybe I'll get em BOTH by the weekend after Super Bowl!!! :2vrolijk_21: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:
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:pineapple: Way to go Hoist :pineapple:
:huepfenlol2: So when is the coming home party :nixweiss:
Jo Mo NYC :coolblue:
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Jo not even Howie can ride em both home at the same time....
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:pineapple: Way to go Hoist :pineapple:
:huepfenlol2: So when is the coming home party :nixweiss:
Jo Mo NYC :coolblue:
JoMo done got hooked on the Hoist Hoorah's...Them must be some good shindigs there Jo ;D
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Elvis,
Yes sir they surley are!!!!!!!!! :2vrolijk_21:
Jo Mo NYC :coolblue:
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miker,
I don't know, were talking about The Hoist Man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :huepfenjump3:
Jo Mo NYC :coolblue:
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True, just don't say "You ain't got a hair on yer ass not to ride em both" or something like that...That garage needs some tightening up for all that fine metal goin in there...I'm just sayin.. :drink:
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HeHe!!! Kinda like this, cept with bikes! ;D ;D ;D
Yeah funny guy, more room needed again! ??? :o :P :D :D :D ;)
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Very nice...
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Nice puffy shirt! :confused5:
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Nice puffy shirt! :confused5:
HeHe!!! But I don't wanna be a pirate!!! ??? ;D ;D ;D ;)
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U sure about that Howie?
;D ;)HeHe!!! But I don't wanna be a pirate!!! ??? ;D ;D ;D ;)
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U sure about that Howie?
;D ;)
HeHe!!! Not really Nige! Just followin theme man! ;D ;)
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Holy crap!!! Bike's done! Just waiting on the painted tank and rear fender now. That'll get put on when received and I should be able to ride it out of there. Hopefully Freddy the Flame will get them back to Vern next week some time. And it's neck and neck with Cybil getting done! The motor went back in her today too! With my luck, everything will be done by next weekend, it'll be 75 deg, AND I'LL BE IN CINCY AT THE V-TWIN EXPO the entire weekend!!! ::) :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: ;D
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With my luck, everything will be done by next weekend, it'll be 75 deg, AND I'LL BE IN CINCY AT THE V-TWIN EXPO the entire weekend!!! ::) :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: ;D
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Now we are talkin'
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HeHe!!! But I don't wanna be a pirate!!! ??? ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Arrrgg..!
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Arrrgg..!
You always seem to find THE most appropriate pics Craig!!! Gotta love it man!!! ;D :2vrolijk_21:
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So wich one you going to ride first? :nixweiss:
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So wich one you going to ride first? :nixweiss:
Craig
HeHe!!! THE HOIST BOBBER!!! :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:
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TODAY'S UPDATE: (in pics!)
WooHoo!!! Inching closer and closer now! Just waiting on the painted tins and some details, and this baby's done!!! Can't wait!!! :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:
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Check out the cool tailight/licence plate bracket assembly!!! :2vrolijk_21:
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Check out how slammed down low she sits now with the 3-1/2" under upper fork tubes on! :2vrolijk_21:
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Check out the new top motor mount. They were fabricating a bracket to bolt to the 2 hols in it to mount the ignition switch! :2vrolijk_21:
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Closer shot with the switch just for effect! ;)
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Headlight, off, low, high switch in headlight assembly! :2vrolijk_21:
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My rear suspension for my rigid! ??? ;) :2vrolijk_21:
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Check out the cool bicycle bulb horn! Just enough for inspection purposes! Not mounted yet. Just up there for effect, but you get the idea! I'll prolly be whistling or revving the motor, to alert someone and never use it!!! ::) :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: ;D ;)
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Last one for today! Hopefully the next time you see it, it'll be done!!! :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:
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Mmmmmmmmm..........Beefy!
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Mmmmmmmmm..........Beefy!
HeHe!!! "Where's the beef?" :nixweiss: ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Looks good Howie!! You goiing to kick start it the first time?
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Looks good Howie!! You goiing to kick start it the first time?
Craig
HeHe!!! With them 10.5:1's and Sifton cam in there, I only kick it when the battery's down, or the starter breaks Craig! That baby likes kicking back! :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: ;D ;D ;D :2vrolijk_21:
It kicks just fine! Gotta joke about something though! ;)
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Looksd Great Howie. Gotta say..it's a beauty. BUT..it makes my back hurt just looking at the suspension.
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Looksd Great Howie. Gotta say..it's a beauty. BUT..it makes my back hurt just looking at the suspension.
Thanks Ken!!! :2vrolijk_21:
HeHe!!! It'd need 4 shocks under the seat though for your big ole Redneck ass!!! ??? ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Hoist that is so cool cant wait to see her complete!!!!!
and the party to celebrate her in all her Glory :2vrolijk_21:
Jo Mo NYC :coolblue:
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Hoist that is so cool cant wait to see her complete!!!!!
and the party to celebrate her in all her Glory :2vrolijk_21:
Jo Mo NYC :coolblue:
Thanks man! You'll be there for it Joe!!! :2vrolijk_21:
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HeHe!!! With them 10.5:1's and Sifton cam in there, I only kick it when the battery's down, or the starter breaks Craig! That baby likes kicking back! :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: ;D ;D ;D :2vrolijk_21:
Howie I have heard lots of stories, but what was the worse "true" story you have seen on a "kicker"?
I have never seen anyone actually get hurt, only get exhausted and frustrated.
Do you have the ability to to retard the spark to prevent kick back?
I assume most problem comes when the sparks comes before TDC and engine kicks backwards.
I never had my bike kick back enough to be anything more than uncomfortable.
I have heard stories though, never knew if they were true.
It kicks just fine! Gotta joke about something though! ;)
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HeHe!!! With them 10.5:1's and Sifton cam in there, I only kick it when the battery's down, or the starter breaks Craig! That baby likes kicking back! :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: ;D ;D ;D :2vrolijk_21:
It kicks just fine! Gotta joke about something though! ;)
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You can fake it, hit the kicker, then release it really quick and hit the starter! :D
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Worst case scenario: ratchet slips and your leg free falls to the concrete and you jam your knee, then when your frozen in pain the engine backfires and the kicker comes back and gets you again causing a huge hematoma on the back of your leg. :'(
I've got two "Sportster Knees" from this. When I ride my chop now I have my son come over to start it the first time, and it's a one kicker after that. Doc
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Howie, I like the fat 16" up front with the lowered forks!!
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Worst case scenario: ratchet slips and your leg free falls to the concrete and you jam your knee, then when your frozen in pain the engine backfires and the kicker comes back and gets you again causing a huge hematoma on the back of your leg. :'(
I've got two "Sportster Knees" from this. When I ride my chop now I have my son come over to start it the first time, and it's a one kicker after that. Doc
Yep, been there done that
30 plus later the knee still hurts
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This is one bad ass looking bike. Can't wait to see the finished product.
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You can fake it, hit the kicker, then release it really quick and hit the starter! :D
Now you sir are a genius......................................and sly too............... ;D