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CVO Technical => Intake/Exhaust/ECM => Topic started by: Yellow09SERG on August 28, 2017, 10:23:57 PM

Title: Fuel filter housing
Post by: Yellow09SERG on August 28, 2017, 10:23:57 PM
Rode into work this morning and as I pulled into the parking lot bike started running like crap. Rolled her into her parking place like I do every morning, except I was mumbling to myself about old girl acting up. Came out this afternoon and she would bust right off, run 2 second and die... Bummed a ride home and grabbed truck and trailer. Endured the ration of sh!# from the guys at work about pushing a Harley in a trailer and brought her home. Long story short pulled the fuel cap and turned bike and was greeted with a circulation of fuel in the tank. Pulled it apart and found the tang on the fuel filter housing broke causing an internal fuel leak in the tank and no fuel pressure. Hopefully I can get by a stealer tomorrow and pick up a new assy.  Its on a 09 Roadie so the last 10 years of these gas blends have probably taken a toll on the plastic
Title: Re: Fuel filter housing
Post by: Yellow09SERG on August 28, 2017, 10:25:07 PM
Broken tab
Title: Re: Fuel filter housing
Post by: Twolanerider on August 28, 2017, 11:39:05 PM
Could be mistaken but thought I remembered a service bulletin covering failure issues and replacement of that tank insert.
Title: Re: Fuel filter housing
Post by: KGB on August 29, 2017, 03:15:33 AM
Common problem, I would check the fuel lines very close, they like to rub on the inside of the tank an wear small holes in it.


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Title: Re: Fuel filter housing
Post by: Yellow09SERG on August 29, 2017, 08:22:37 AM
There may have been a service bulletin Don. No more often than the bike goes to a shop, it probably got missed. Maybe work will treat me well today and I can run get parts and get back to running.

While its apart I will probably replace the fuel lines also
Title: Re: Fuel filter housing
Post by: FlaHeatWave on August 29, 2017, 12:08:28 PM
How many miles??
Thinking of doing mine as a preventative measure :nervous:
Title: Re: Fuel filter housing
Post by: Yellow09SERG on August 29, 2017, 01:10:19 PM
Ed, I am at 75,000. Also not sure it is mileage related as much as age soaked in gas. Plastic is pretty briddle. Guess if you soak plastic in gas for 10 years is would get that way?  :confused5:   I would strongly recommend changing your in your 09
Title: Re: Fuel filter housing
Post by: grc on August 29, 2017, 02:11:29 PM
Ed, I am at 75,000. Also not sure it is mileage related as much as age soaked in gas. Plastic is pretty briddle. Guess if you soak plastic in gas for 10 years is would get that way?  :confused5:   I would strongly recommend changing your in your 09

Not if they had used the good stuff.  The auto industry uses a lot of plastic in their fuel systems, from pump components to filters to pressure regulators to the fuel lines themselves.  I've never had one fail, and I've owned a couple vehicles for well over ten years.  Just recently got rid of a 2004 that has seen nothing but a steady diet of the oxygenated fuel required in the Chicago area, and over fourteen years had zero fuel system issues.

Harley had a recall on this, as Twolane noted previously.  It's not a fuel problem, it's a part problem.

Jerry
Title: Re: Fuel filter housing
Post by: Yellow09SERG on August 29, 2017, 06:47:35 PM
Wonder if I carried the broken part in that it would be covered under the recall? Surely a company with the reputation of Harley would just exchange with me.... Never mind I was living in that imaginary world again..
Title: Re: Fuel filter housing
Post by: Twolanerider on August 29, 2017, 07:39:37 PM
Wonder if I carried the broken part in that it would be covered under the recall? Surely a company with the reputation of Harley would just exchange with me.... Never mind I was living in that imaginary world again..



Been watching a lot of Twilight Zone reruns?
Title: Re: Fuel filter housing
Post by: TN on August 29, 2017, 07:48:39 PM
I use to get recalled parts from a service manager then return the takeoff with no problems. That was back when I was throwing thousand dollar bills at them.  :drink:

I still have one part I need to return, when I change it out.  :D


Times have changed


TN
Title: Re: Fuel filter housing
Post by: Yellow09SERG on August 29, 2017, 09:20:31 PM


Been watching a lot of Twilight Zone reruns?

And drinking way to much.... :drink:
Title: Re: Fuel filter housing
Post by: Yellow09SERG on August 29, 2017, 09:21:12 PM
I use to get recalled parts from a service manager then return the takeoff with no problems. That was back when I was throwing thousand dollar bills at them.  :drink:

I still have one part I need to return, when I change it out.  :D


Times have changed


TN

Yes sir they have
Title: Re: Fuel filter housing
Post by: Dan_Lockwood on August 30, 2017, 08:52:06 AM
Seems to me that when I bought my '08 SERK that they had a recall on the fuel pump suction lines.

But my little grey cells have been a bit on the slow side lately.
Title: Re: Fuel filter housing
Post by: Yellow09SERG on August 30, 2017, 10:36:16 AM
Well just for sh*?s and giggles I carried the housing in with me and asked for a warranty replacement from a recall. They looked at me like I had been drinking way to much and watching Twilight Zone reruns. So $52 later I walked out with a new housing and filter. Put old girl back together and she started right up. Problem solved at least for today. Now back to drinking and Twilight Zone reruns
Title: Re: Fuel filter housing
Post by: FlaHeatWave on September 01, 2017, 12:21:35 AM
Ed, I am at 75,000. Also not sure it is mileage related as much as age soaked in gas. Plastic is pretty briddle. Guess if you soak plastic in gas for 10 years is would get that way?  :confused5:   I would strongly recommend changing your in your 09

Was thinking of the '05 also... 'Guess I'll find an online retailer and buy the parts for both bikes??
Title: Re: Fuel filter housing
Post by: Yellow09SERG on September 02, 2017, 12:48:24 PM
Was thinking of the '05 also... 'Guess I'll find an online retailer and buy the parts for both bikes??

Ed, look the parts up to verify but your 05 may have a different housing. Don't have the exact part number with me but if I remember right it was an 08A part in the book and was revised to an 08B
Title: Re: Fuel filter housing
Post by: Twolanerider on September 02, 2017, 12:50:43 PM
2005 is an entirely different assembly. 
Title: Re: Fuel filter housing
Post by: FlaHeatWave on September 02, 2017, 05:14:33 PM
2005 is an entirely different assembly.

'Figured the '05 & '09 were different...

With the age / miles maybe I should PM both :nervous:

'Have all the Manuals,,, Ronnie's Parts Finder is a wonderful thing :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: Fuel filter housing
Post by: Twolanerider on September 02, 2017, 05:43:58 PM
'Figured the '05 & '09 were different...

With the age / miles maybe I should PM both :nervous:

'Have all the Manuals,,, Ronnie's Parts Finder is a wonderful thing :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:

2002-2007 all the same.  Only common service items in them are the filter.  I change mine every 25k.  Had one plug up on me once at just over 30k and that shortened my service schedule.

Inside those tanks it's also more common than it should be to get pinholes in the pressure lines.  Listen close for that.  Any hint of a problem (or just because you're in there) change the line while changing the filter.  The filter kit will come with one line.  Here we're talking about the "other" pressure line that goes down to the tank fitting.

Only other item to pay much attention to inside the 02-07 tanks is the fuel regulator.  They give problem very rarely though.
Title: Re: Fuel filter housing
Post by: FlaHeatWave on September 03, 2017, 01:54:16 PM
2002-2007 all the same.  Only common service items in them are the filter.  I change mine every 25k.  Had one plug up on me once at just over 30k and that shortened my service schedule.

Inside those tanks it's also more common than it should be to get pinholes in the pressure lines.  Listen close for that.  Any hint of a problem (or just because you're in there) change the line while changing the filter.  The filter kit will come with one line.  Here we're talking about the "other" pressure line that goes down to the tank fitting.

Only other item to pay much attention to inside the 02-07 tanks is the fuel regulator.  They give problem very rarely though.

Thanks for the info Don :2vrolijk_21:

Are there any symptoms leading up to these failures (rough running? power loss? miss? etc...) or does the bike just quit and not start/restart??
Title: Re: Fuel filter housing
Post by: Yellow09SERG on September 03, 2017, 02:20:33 PM
Ed I really had no warning. Pulling into the parking lot at work and bike was acting like it was running out of fuel, then didn't restart
Title: Re: Fuel filter housing
Post by: Twolanerider on September 03, 2017, 03:28:47 PM
Thanks for the info Don :2vrolijk_21:

Are there any symptoms leading up to these failures (rough running? power loss? miss? etc...) or does the bike just quit and not start/restart??

All the above for symptoms.  It's fuel starvation and behaves accordingly.  They'll usually start with tell tales of cutting out under power and what you can think is a miss under load until it gets to the point (if you let it get that far) that it runs so bad (or not at all) you just can't ride it.