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CVO Technical => Intake/Exhaust/ECM => Topic started by: LB1369 on November 15, 2017, 02:44:35 PM

Title: Ecm flash
Post by: LB1369 on November 15, 2017, 02:44:35 PM
Has anyone used Fuelmoto’s ecm flash  and if so was it worth 250 bucks? The ‘10 CVO SG I bought has some aftermarket slipons (no name) I’m  R&R’ing them with a Rush Reaper And was curious to know if I should just bite the bullet and buy a PCV or TTS or try fuelmotos flash?
Title: Re: Ecm flash
Post by: rigidthumper on November 15, 2017, 02:58:39 PM
Sounds like $250 for you to send in your ECM, they flash in a canned PV map, and return it to you? No accounting for injector differences, or head flow differences, or cam timing?
At that point, you're 1/2 way towards having your own TTS, that you can dial in for current mods, and will grow with you for any future mods.  Maybe the canned map is close enough for your application?
I would rather own the tuning tool, and cables, and use it.
Title: Re: Ecm flash
Post by: Doc 1 on November 19, 2017, 06:09:10 PM
Don't do it.....Jamie's Snake Oil.....lol ;D
Title: Re: Ecm flash
Post by: Texas 103 on December 21, 2017, 12:31:25 PM
Sounds like $250 for you to send in your ECM, they flash in a canned PV map, and return it to you? No accounting for injector differences, or head flow differences, or cam timing?
At that point, you're 1/2 way towards having your own TTS, that you can dial in for current mods, and will grow with you for any future mods.  Maybe the canned map is close enough for your application?
I would rather own the tuning tool, and cables, and use it.

There is NO substitute for a good professional tune!
Title: Re: Ecm flash
Post by: iski on December 21, 2017, 02:02:39 PM
There is NO substitute for a good professional tune!

x2
Title: Re: Ecm flash
Post by: shaochieh.young on January 07, 2018, 12:22:22 PM
Don't do it.....Jamie's Snake Oil.....lol ;D

What do you mean by your statement?


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Title: Re: Ecm flash
Post by: Cvostu on January 07, 2018, 08:48:01 PM
That means stay away from it.   From a professional tuner.   Stuart
Title: Re: Ecm flash
Post by: Fullsac Performance on January 08, 2018, 10:45:14 AM
Has anyone used Fuelmoto’s ecm flash  and if so was it worth 250 bucks? The ‘10 CVO SG I bought has some aftermarket slipons (no name) I’m  R&R’ing them with a Rush Reaper And was curious to know if I should just bite the bullet and buy a PCV or TTS or try fuelmotos flash?

The concern I would have of any flash only with out software is your locked out of your ECM. How do you put it back to stock, make a minor adjustment or have it dyno tuned? You don't. Best to have your own set of keys and stay in the drivers seat.

Steve@fullsac.com
Title: Re: Ecm flash
Post by: shaochieh.young on January 08, 2018, 06:12:55 PM
That means stay away from it.   From a professional tuner.   Stuart

So it is okay to have a PV and download fuel maps from the vendor to have a way of return to original? 


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Title: Re: Ecm flash
Post by: hrdtail78 on January 09, 2018, 04:17:13 PM
So it is okay to have a PV and download fuel maps from the vendor to have a way of return to original? 


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Yes, because you have the tuner and the first thing I recommend you do is upload the stock cal that is in your ECM and save it.  This way if anything goes array.  You can go back to a good known calibration that you know the bike runs on.  This is a common recommendation for all flash tuners that allow it.

The other plus side to actually having the tuner.  All these calibration are starter calibrations, and time should be spent at least mapping VE's if you got a good starter calibration that match's the timing requirements for the combination of parts that you have.  Setting up a spark table from scratch can be difficult if road tuning with a device that doesn't have good data viewing of knock control.  It can be difficult with all the latest equipment as well.