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Title: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: Uncle Fester on June 06, 2009, 05:04:04 PM
I'm contemplating my next bike project, and after considering and rejecting several ideas, I've narrowed it down to three:
- '09 SE Road Glide
- '09 Road Glide and build it up to SE
- '01 SE RG and "modernize" it - upgrade the radio/speakers, change out the turn sigs to bullets, newer controls, aftermarket pipes, etc etc etc.

Option 3 is the cheapest, as I've seen plenty on eBay for under $15K. But most of them have lots of miles, and who knows how much life left? And the improved frame, handling, ABS and gas capacity of the '09's is tempting.

What do you guys think? Are the improvements in the '09 baggers worth the extra money?
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: SBB on June 06, 2009, 05:16:56 PM


Yes!
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: Highjagger on June 06, 2009, 06:29:15 PM
No discussion , just a fact , 09 SERG rules , Yeah .
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: hdbrad03 on June 06, 2009, 07:40:05 PM
09 Rocks as far as handling and looks.

I may some day buy a 00-01 SERG to ride and rebuild.


YES to what ever you choose. If 09 is in your choice I feel the SERG3 would be the correct choice!  :bananarock:


 :bananarock: :bananarock:
     Brad
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: 04se103 on June 06, 2009, 10:09:28 PM
Bottom line yes the 09 serg worth every penny
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: Bandit4142 on June 06, 2009, 10:12:43 PM
I sold my '05 and bought an '09 SERG, I couldn't be happier.   I may someday pick up an '01 to rebuild and tinker with, but I love the '09.   8)
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: Guilty on June 06, 2009, 11:43:41 PM
The upgrade to the 09' baggers is well worth it.
Here are my thoughts on your options:
Option 1) 09' SE Road Glide. You really can't go wrong with this bike. The 110 engine problems from the prior years seem to be fixed and the SERG provides a high level of pride of ownership. As with any Harley, there are a number of things to do to personalize the SERG and to make it comfortable for each individual rider.

Option 2) 09' Road Glide and build it up to SE. You can spend a lot of money and no matter how hard you try, it still isn't a SERG. However, you can end up with a great Road Glide. If I was going to go this route, I would definitely plan to spend the money and get a custom paint job in addition to the usual chrome necessities. If you upgrade the engine, you are sure to be into the bike for a lot more than you would be if you just bought the SERG in the first place.

Option 3) 01' SE RG and modernize it. With the great handling of the 09' model Harley's, the new frame, and the availability of the ABS brake system and Brembo Brakes I wouldn't consider any older SERG unless you have lusted for the bike since it was introduced or if you didn't want to spend the big bucks of the 2 other options.
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: altugo on June 07, 2009, 06:52:08 AM
I think you should wait a few weeks more to see whats cooking for 2010.There might be a FLTRSE4 within few weeks and you might like it more than any of the other options.

My suggeation to your question would be to score a low milage  reasonably priced FLTRSE3 already upgraded with mufflers and a decent windshield and a few chrome things.
Anything with a few thousand miles on it with some accessories already installed below 29 grand is good.If your lucky enough you may find one with lowers and king tourpac.

Option 2 isnt a good idea i would assume your looking over 10 grand easy with engine upgrade and a decent paint job let alone the chrome accessories.

Well for the 3rd option, If you want a classic bike,Thats the way to go.But you cant beat stability of the new frame, ABS and trouble free 110 engine.FLTRSE3 is a charm to ride.
 :drink:
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: FLSTFI Dave on June 07, 2009, 08:07:51 AM
I would opt for the 09 due to all the frame improvements.  If you can swing it, the SE version is the way to go.
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: bakes on June 07, 2009, 07:00:19 PM
I have some interesting input here.

I just found a 01 serg with 500 miles on it.  bought it, and just came back from Americade where I put on 500 miles.

I dont have the cash for the 09 serg, but im seriously thinking for the 16k i paid for this one, i may have been better off with the 09 RG stock due to the frame and brakes, the stock motor is bigger than my 95 too!   of course the chrome bits are nice!!!

SB
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: altugo on June 07, 2009, 07:05:56 PM
Well thats money well spent.01 with 500 miles is a rare find.I wish you could keep it that way for another 10 years :drink:
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: ironhorse432 on June 07, 2009, 07:15:58 PM
YES GET THE 09][/b]
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: hard10 on June 07, 2009, 07:20:30 PM
Here's an '09 on eBay for $27k (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Harley-Davidson-Touring-2009-Harley-Davidson-CVO-Road-Glide-FLTRSE3_W0QQitemZ300320970803QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_motorcycles?hash=item45ec865833&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A12|39%3A1|72%3A1205|240%3A1318[/url) now. It has the TP already. bakes, I think you did pretty well finding an '01 w/ 500 miles on it! And I have always luted over the '00's but if I could afford it, the '09 would be the way to go. Especially considering the prices on the used market.
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: bakes on June 07, 2009, 07:25:28 PM
The guy bought it to tour, but never did, and just rode his softtail instead, so it sat in his garage.  

It also came with the tourpac, origional finn mufflers, cover, bla bla bla, its like a time capsule bike! so Im happy but, the techie in me keeps thinking about that new frame!!

I dont love the cd changer in the tour pac because, i use mp3's now, so its just wasted space back there, plus the radio with the tape player is outdated , you cannot plug in a 1/8" plug there , even though it has the port, because it does not function on that model.

and the ABS and brembro combo sounds awsome.  BUT, i will probably ditch the idea that it is a rare and valuable bike , and just remove the stuff I dont like and add the stuff I do!!!

I wouldnt be surprised if its the lowest milage 01 in existance. or was because now it has 1650.  It had the origional Dunlops which i was concerned about but my local shop said they were good! no dryrot, cracking or otherwise.


Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: hdbrad03 on June 07, 2009, 07:32:20 PM
If you are not using the CD Changer it uses the AUX Input. Also if you search I think there is a work around to activate the aux input.


 :bananarock: :bananarock:
     Brad
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: hard10 on June 07, 2009, 07:33:20 PM
The guy bought it to tour, but never did, and just rode his softtail instead, so it sat in his garage.  

It also came with the tourpac, origional finn mufflers, cover, bla bla bla, its like a time capsule bike! so Im happy but, the techie in me keeps thinking about that new frame!!

I dont love the cd changer in the tour pac because, i use mp3's now, so its just wasted space back there, plus the radio with the tape player is outdated , you cannot plug in a 1/8" plug there , even though it has the port, because it does not function on that model.

and the ABS and brembro combo sounds awsome.  BUT, i will probably ditch the idea that it is a rare and valuable bike , and just remove the stuff I dont like and add the stuff I do!!!

I wouldnt be surprised if its the lowest milage 01 in existance. or was because now it has 1650.  It had the origional Dunlops which i was concerned about but my local shop said they were good! no dryrot, cracking or otherwise.





STOP! You're making me jealous! I rode the '09 RG & the '09 SERG. While I noticed a difference in the frame from my SEUC², I don't know if I'd buy one solely for that reason. Likewise for the Brembro's or the ABS. There's just not enough for me to warrant a change. However, if I was starting all over again...??? Who knows?
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: bakes on June 07, 2009, 07:49:56 PM
Hey Brad,

Im not sure that is correct because I met a fellow on here, and he did try the 1/8 plug , when his tourpac was off, and it still did not work. I looked online for a solution to that but couldnt find one,  I may just swap the stereo for a 05 single cd model which has the working jack and just remove the 12 disk changer.
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: Fired00d on June 07, 2009, 07:59:29 PM
The guy bought it to tour, but never did, and just rode his softtail instead, so it sat in his garage.  

It also came with the tourpac, origional finn mufflers, cover, bla bla bla, its like a time capsule bike! so Im happy but, the techie in me keeps thinking about that new frame!!

I dont love the cd changer in the tour pac because, i use mp3's now, so its just wasted space back there, plus the radio with the tape player is outdated , you cannot plug in a 1/8" plug there , even though it has the port, because it does not function on that model.

and the ABS and brembro combo sounds awsome.  BUT, i will probably ditch the idea that it is a rare and valuable bike , and just remove the stuff I dont like and add the stuff I do!!!

I wouldnt be surprised if its the lowest milage 01 in existance. or was because now it has 1650.  It had the origional Dunlops which i was concerned about but my local shop said they were good! no dryrot, cracking or otherwise.



You may want to take a look at these two threads...

iPod question (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=17911.0)

What is the hole/plug in the front of my radio for? (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=14444.0)

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: hdbrad03 on June 07, 2009, 08:04:41 PM
Oh yeah, anyways - the stock radio has a 4 pin pigtail that connects to the changer out the back of the radio.  This pigtail defeats the 1/8" stereo pin jack on the front.  You actually can connect a set of wires to the pigtail to accomplish your objective of connecting the iPod (you can purchase the opposite sex connector at your dealer and solder a couple of wires on to it).


 :bananarock: :bananarock:
     Brad
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: bakes on June 07, 2009, 08:08:39 PM
you know hard10, i like  talking about this bike!  It makes me feel gooood.   :coolblue:   But I really do like the reassurance that that was a wise purchase since I know you guys really know this stuff. 
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: bakes on June 07, 2009, 08:19:29 PM
i just read those posts about modifying the connectors for the ipod etc.  i may just go buy one of those tape/adaptors and be done with it!

thanks!
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: hard10 on June 07, 2009, 08:20:16 PM
you know hard10, i like  talking about this bike!  It makes me feel gooood.   :coolblue:   But I really do like the reassurance that that was a wise purchase since I know you guys really know this stuff. 

I don't proclaim to know anything. I do know that I like the original Screamin Eagle Touring bikes. I think you did well for what you paid and what you have, an original classic!
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: hdbrad03 on June 07, 2009, 08:25:03 PM
I agree if the cards would have played a little different I would have Purchased Carlos's 00 Triple Red.


 :bananarock: :bananarock:
     Brad
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: Fired00d on June 07, 2009, 08:26:15 PM
i just read those posts about modifying the connectors for the ipod etc.  i may just go buy one of those tape/adaptors and be done with it!

thanks!
Kewl. :2vrolijk_21: Sometimes the easiest (adapter) solution is overlooked.

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: hard10 on June 07, 2009, 08:30:30 PM
I agree if the cards would have played a little different I would have Purchased Carlos's 00 Triple Red.


 :bananarock: :bananarock:
     Brad

Yeah, but aren't we all glad with who got it!  :D ;D :D
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: Fired00d on June 07, 2009, 08:42:16 PM
Yeah, but aren't we all glad with who got it!  :D ;D :D
Shame on you!!!... remind me of the new owner and not posting the picture again. :P ::) :D

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
  :fireman:

(http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=26102.0;attach=77178;image)
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: hard10 on June 07, 2009, 09:01:14 PM
Shame on you!!!... remind me of the new owner and not posting the picture again. :P ::) :D

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
  :fireman:

(http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=26102.0;attach=77178;image)

I knew the "almighty wizard of past posts" would be able to find it!
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: GtreetSlide on June 07, 2009, 09:02:44 PM
What I really wanted was an 09 SESG... But, since they haven't made it yet, I just got the 09 SG and had it built the way I wanted it. After seeing so many issues reported with the 110 motor, I took the safe route and had them do the stage II kit (103/255s). I added the quick detatchable hardware and got a matching tourpac, backrest, racks, etc, etc. I just love the bike. The 09 really is a big improvement and fullsac baffles with a TTS makes it run like a dream.  It coverts from an around the Hills explorer to a long distance traveller in about a minute. And probably cost me about the same as a 2010 SERG will likely cost...  :2vrolijk_21:

jb
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: Fired00d on June 07, 2009, 09:04:36 PM
I knew the "almighty wizard of past posts" would be able to find it!
No way I'd not remember where that was. I'm old... but I'm not dead. :D :D

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: Uncle Fester on June 08, 2009, 08:42:12 AM
Money's one big factor...I really would love to get an '09. Mrs Fester's a rider herself, but she's skeptical about a m/c that costs as much as her car ('07 Daytona Charger).

Another is that I'd like a bike to tinker with and personalize. Seems like I'd have more to work with on the '01; I'm just leery of getting a bike that may have been rode hard and put away wet. I've bought plenty of used bikes, but it's hard to do too much to a bike in a year or two that wouldn't be too obvious. But over eight or nine years?

Thanks for the inputs, gentlemen. I'll keep the eye on the "for sale" section.
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: grandpadoc on June 08, 2009, 09:42:06 AM
you know hard10, i like  talking about this bike!  It makes me feel Good.   :coolblue:   But I really do like the reassurance that that was a wise purchase since I know you guys really know this stuff. 

Bakes, your bike was extremely well bought and by now you know how sweet that 95 incher is. I got mine a couple of years ago with low miles and almost felt guilty putting miles on such a classic but I got over it quickly. It's fun to look for parts on ebay to keep it stock, and what a rush to find replacement shark fins, covers, manuals, show room brochures, road tests and such. Have fun with that bike, its the one that started all this.  Doc
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: sem_bunda on June 08, 2009, 01:12:14 PM
Go with the 09 SERG definitely!  Any bike that doesn't "fight" seriously grooved (from constuction) pavement at low or high speeds has something right with it.  Wife and I were on road trip in the rain, followed by two friends (both two up too), and I had to slow down 20-30 mph because they were fighting the pavement with grooves.  The 09 SERG rocks other than the stock wind screen and seat.
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: bakes on June 08, 2009, 04:03:53 PM
Bakes, your bike was extremely well bought and by now you know how sweet that 95 incher is. I got mine a couple of years ago with low miles and almost felt guilty putting miles on such a classic but I got over it quickly. It's fun to look for parts on ebay to keep it stock, and what a rush to find replacement shark fins, covers, manuals, show room brochures, road tests and such. Have fun with that bike, its the one that started all this.  Doc

Doc, I feel good about this purchase and im going to take care of it as best I can. eventually I may look for a 2nd hand 09 SERG.
Steve
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: grandpadoc on June 08, 2009, 04:22:47 PM
Doc, I feel good about this purchase and im going to take care of it as best I can. eventually I may look for a 2nd hand 09 SERG.
Steve

...the first and possibly last SERG's, what a stable that will be.  ;)  Doc
Title: Re: '09 SERG, jump-up an RG or upgrade an '01?
Post by: bakes on June 08, 2009, 06:10:01 PM
oh, i didnt mean at the same time!!   But if I was going to have two CVO bikes my vote is for a serg and the 2nd would be the 2003 gold road king with the black accent paint with the 103 motor, im in love with that road king!