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How's Harley Davidson going to handle this.
« on: September 01, 2017, 04:51:24 AM »

MOTORCYCLE INDUSTRY WELCOMES NEWS OF 2040 BAN ON NEW PETROL VEHICLES AS “TREMENDOUS TRIGGER” FOR ELECTRIC BIKES
“A tremendous stimulus for the motorcycle industry” says MCIA chief Steve Kenward
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THE Motorcycle Industry Association has welcomed reports of a ban on new fossil fuel-powered vehicles from 2040, saying it will be a “tremendous stimulus” for bike makers.

The Government is due to announce a ban on the sale of new petrol and diesel vehicles from 2040 as part of an effort to tackle air pollution, according to several national newspapers.

The measure is expected to include a ban on new hybrid vehicles and could mark the beginning of the end of the prevalence of the internal combustion engine in automotive transport.


The announcement will be in line with a similar commitment already made by France.

Steve Kenward, CEO of the Motorcycle Industry Association, pointed out that no specific mention had been made of bikes but added: “I think there’s a great opportunity.

“For all the congestion-busting abilities of motorcycles and the abilities to make electric bikes I think it’s a tremendous stimulus for the motorcycle industry.

“It’s a tremendous commercial trigger to push on with electric motorcycles.”

Motorcycles made before 2007 are already set to be hit by a £12.50 daily pollution toll for entering London from 2020.

Currently the most practical electric motorcycles available include the £16,000 Zero SR (pictured), making around 69hp and with a range of up to 200 miles between charges.

The most powerful include the LS-218 from US firm Lightning Motorcycles, named after its top speed of 218mph and making 200hp.

How do you feel about the long-term demise of petrol-powered motorcycles?
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Re: How's Harley Davidson going to handle this.
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2017, 05:06:28 AM »

In the UK by 2024 you will not be able to buy a fuel or diesel vehicle.


What does this all mean for motorcycling?
Motorcycling as we all know is a cleaner and more efficient way of travelling and if more people were to use them instead of cars then congestion would be greatly reduced, also reducing emissions from vehicles that are stationary and sat in traffic, tackling the problem in two different areas.

A study in Belgium found that if just 10% of cars were replaced by motorcycles in our most congested cities then congestion would be reduced by a massive 40% and also cut up to 15,000 hours a day of vehicles being sat stationary in traffic.

It is unsure at the moment exactly what the proposals for motorcycles will be at the moment and how they will be included in the government outlines. There is however a strong argument for the use of motorcycles in the battle to tackle the high levels of NO2 in our cities.

“With this announcement, the UK government is reinforcing the direction they’ve already taken by introducing the £1500 grant for two wheeled electric vehicles this year" said Umberto Uccelli, Managing Director Zero Motorcycles Europe. "This is, in our opinion, the way to go and in line with what other European governments have shown as well. Each time cars are mentioned we assume that this includes motorcycles as well, even though they have not been specifically mentioned by the British government thus far.


 
"With the progress we have made as the world leader in the electric motorcycle industry over the past 11 years, we’re more than ready for what is coming in the next 23. At the same time we are convinced that by 2040 Zero Motorcycles will remain to be ahead of the competition, just like we are today.”

The rise of electricity
With hybrid technology not yet available for motorcycles, it puts greater emphasis on the growth of electricity and how it could be used in future. Electric motorcycles have, at the moment proved to be inadequate at providing enough range for most commuters to use every day and also faces the challenge of the time it takes between charges, making long-distance rides difficult.

Stevie Muir, Public Relations officer for the Motorcycle Industry Association said "The MCIA, in partnership with the National Police Chiefs Council and Highways England, has published its Motorcycle Safety and Transport Policy Framework, which puts forward the case for encouraging motorcycling as a sustainable transport option. As well as explaining the role of motorcycling as a solution to urban congestion, it states the case for the inclusion of motorcycling in mainstream transport policy and sets out a framework of practical recommendations as to how this might be achieved.

"Almost the entire motorcycle fleet in the UK is petrol. Many small motorcycles and scooters, the type popular with commuters, already meet ultra-low emission requirements. Powered two wheelers move through traffic quicker, help reduce congestion for all road users and take up less space to park."


The government is also trying to address some of this though, with an announcement the other day that outlined a heavy investment into electrical energy storage and making appliances more efficient. What this could mean is that some of this technology could transfer over to the batteries used in electrical vehicles, marking improvements that may see them able to be used as genuine alternatives to petrol vehicles.

The air pollution plan
The government published a draft air pollution plan in May, outlining its plans to cut the NO2 emissions with one of the expected proposals including a scrappage scheme. In the final report though, this was not included and described previous scemes as "poor value for money."

Alongside the ban on diesel and petrol vehicles, it’s also expected that speed humps could be removed in a bid to reduce pollution from vehicles slowing down and speeding up.

Local authorities will be able to implement these changes imminently, with a £40-million fund of a total £255-million pot and will also be able to use the money to implement new technologies, change road layouts and encourage the use of public transport.

It could also see the implementation of emmissions charging zones to help curb NO2 levels in the worst affected areas.

France is also looking to ban the sale of any car that uses petrol or diesel by 2040, with an overall aim to be completely carbon-neutral by 2050.
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Re: How's Harley Davidson going to handle this.
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2017, 07:11:34 AM »

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I'm trying to understand just how this idea would be enforced........."Motorcycles made before 2007 are already set to be hit by a £12.50 daily pollution toll for entering London from 2020."  :nixweiss:

Would your bike have to display what model year it was on the license plate, also would cars made before 2007 also face extra fees to drive in London ??? :confused5: :confused5:
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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2017, 01:35:45 PM »

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I'm trying to understand just how this idea would be enforced........."Motorcycles made before 2007 are already set to be hit by a £12.50 daily pollution toll for entering London from 2020."  :nixweiss:

Would your bike have to display what model year it was on the license plate, also would cars made before 2007 also face extra fees to drive in London ??? :confused5: :confused5:

We have in place now a charge (none motorbike) to enter London called a congestion charge then they added more charges for emissions that was charged only on gas burners buy Diesel its cleaner emissions ???now it's Diesel that's creating the air pollution. Motorbikes where exempt from any changes.

Your question 1
Any bike made before 2007 will be charged come 2020. Any bike made in 2007 and after will not be charged.

Q 2
All licence plates numbers have the year of manufacture incorporated in the plate number.
Example: if the vehicle is made in the first six months of 2017 it will display numbers 17 at the end of the number. Now if the vehicle is made after the first six months of 2017 then the number plate will show 57 at the end of the number.
When you register the vehicle with the  DVLA ( Department vehicle license agency) that plate number gets entered into the number plate identification data base.
So when you enter the city London the data base cameras record all your information on that vehicle and send you a bill for driving into the city.
It also knows if you have paid the road tax that we have on all vehicles including motorbikes plus if you have insurance or not. When someone is cought with no insurance the vehicle is towed and sent to the crusher no matter what year the vehicle.. you get a good fine and points on your license and no chance of redeeming your vehicle.

A little more info then you asked but that about sums it up.

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Re: How's Harley Davidson going to handle this.
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2017, 02:50:09 PM »


It also knows if you have paid the road tax that we have on all vehicles including motorbikes plus if you have insurance or not. When someone is cought with no insurance the vehicle is towed and sent to the crusher no matter what year the vehicle.. you get a good fine and points on your license and no chance of redeeming your vehicle.

A little more info then you asked but that about sums it up.
Seems pretty harsh for a first offense, bet that cuts down on people driving without insurance!
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Re: How's Harley Davidson going to handle this.
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2017, 03:11:52 PM »

Seems pretty harsh for a first offense, bet that cuts down on people driving without insurance!

You would think so but there's still the nutters that bo it. When a vehicle is pulled it's clamped on the side of the road wanting for the tow truck the police put a big yellow sticker on it saying in big letters GETTING CRUSHED NO INSURANCE !! for people to see. Same goes for your bike.
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Re: How's Harley Davidson going to handle this.
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2017, 03:45:18 PM »

 :o
It seems our forefather were very smart to have fled the Kingdom more that 200 years ago as these kinds of penalties have surely continued . :soapbox:
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