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[SmokeyJoe]

So who all makes tires to fit the CVO touring models these days?  I found since I last looke there are Commander ll's. Anybody run them care to comment.

[KGB]

So who all makes tires to fit the CVO touring models these days?  I found since I last looke there are Commander ll's. Anybody run them care to comment.

I installed the commander ll's about 3000 miles ago, just got home from Maggie Valley tonight, handled very well in the corners, I just hope they don't cup like the  original Dunlap's so far so good


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[ultra13]

Just put Dunlop Elites on this summer. So far so good.  I like the smooth sidewall. They look cleaner and you can put a little tire shine on them to make them stand out...

[jmanderson6]

I have the commander II on my bike and love them other than traction in the wet weather.


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[SmokeyJoe]

I have read a bunch of reviews and have heard they do not cup.  As far as wet weather traction, I generally try to plan around the rain storms but do occasionally get stuck in one. So it should not be a problem for me. I just ordered the Commanders off Amazon and should have them next week.  It is a good thing cause my tire is a fingernail thin having some 20000+ miles on them.

[phato1]

I installed the commander ll's about 3000 miles ago, just got home from Maggie Valley tonight, handled very well in the corners, I just hope they don't cup like the  original Dunlap's so far so good


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They are starting to cup on my 11.5 CUSE6 but I've got almost 10k mile on them so they are better than the Dunlops in that regard. I maintain 36 PSI front and 42 PSI  rear diligently.

 IMHO I think that any multiple compound tire we put on these heavy bikes will cup due to the hard center compound for long wear and the softer side compound for the cornering grip. It comes down to how long they will last before the cupping starts and riding style has a lot to do with that, along with load on the bike - passenger, gear,  ect...

 The old single compound tires I had on an '06 ultra in the past, Dunlop 402 I think, didn't cup, they just wore out 

[ltank]

I never got much past 7500 miles on Any rear tire, including the Comander 2 tires. They do the best at about 7500 miles on a FXR4 CVO with S&S V111. I don't wheelie or burn out, but bigger motors always eat up tires more than stock.
 Because;  bikes are driven by the rear wheel and bumps in the road makes the rear wheel  slip when pushing and hopping at the same time. Front tires outlast rear tires 3 to 1 ratio.
 My new 98 Road King has a V124LC custom by S&S special order.
probably will do as bad or worse on mileage than my FXR4.
Oh Well,  I don't Ride because it's Cheap. I Ride because it's FUN!

[Yellow09SERG]

I have the commander II on my bike and love them other than traction in the wet weather.


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That seems to be a reply I see pretty often and is what has kept me from trying them. I am not smart enough to get out of the rain. So far with the Elites all has been good, in the 12,000 range on the rear and close to 20,000 on the front. Looking at a tire change shortly

[Para Bellum]

Just a note:  I bought a front Commander II online, and it was defective; it squirmed so bad it felt like it was going flat.  Just the luck of the draw on that one.

[SmokeyJoe]

Just a note:  I bought a front Commander II online, and it was defective; it squirmed so bad it felt like it was going flat.  Just the luck of the draw on that one.

Was there anything you could see physically on the tire that made it like this?

[SouthSide]

I just turned 18,800 miles on my '16 FLTRUSE still on original Dunlop rubber!  First time ever and I don't know why...I'm a big guy and do a lot of two-up riding.  I'm going to need to replace and intended on trying out the Commander IIs, but wondering about it after reading some comments about rain, etc.  Anybody else have this luck, or did Dunlop get their act together?  Getting ready for last road trip of the season in a little over a week so I will probably make a move before then. Any recommendations welcome.  Thanks

[Para Bellum]

Was there anything you could see physically on the tire that made it like this?

No, nothing visible.  Thinking it was an internal defect.

[fastfreddy]

I just turned 18,800 miles on my '16 FLTRUSE still on original Dunlop rubber!  First time ever and I don't know why...I'm a big guy and do a lot of two-up riding.  I'm going to need to replace and intended on trying out the Commander IIs, but wondering about it after reading some comments about rain, etc.  Anybody else have this luck, or did Dunlop get their act together?  Getting ready for last road trip of the season in a little over a week so I will probably make a move before then. Any recommendations welcome.  Thanks

i got same bike and went commander 2s didnt notice any difference in the wet but been lucky and no heavy rain yet. 7.5 on them so far no cupping, will say i think the dunlops feel better in the tight twistys and will probly put the OEs on come next replacement...wish i could get the milage your getting with the OE tires tho   

[SmokeyJoe]

No, nothing visible.  Thinking it was an internal defect.

So I got them on the bike this past Monday and got about a 100miles on them.  I would like to hear more about the defect and how did you handle it?  I noticed at fairly high speed I get squirminess, I regularly ride around 90 around 85is where I noticed it. 

[Para Bellum]

So I got them on the bike this past Monday and got about a 100miles on them.  I would like to hear more about the defect and how did you handle it?  I noticed at fairly high speed I get squirminess, I regularly ride around 90 around 85is where I noticed it.

I rode them about 4000 miles, decided I couldn't take any more, and went back to stock tires.  I had bought them online, and didn't feel like dealing with the hassle of trying to get refunded/prorated, so I just took the loss.  Not much I help, I know.

[MightyTharg]

I've had stock Dunlops and American Elites on my 15 FLHXSE - I don't rate either of them for handling uneven or wet road surfaces.

Was trying to get hold of Pirelli Night Dragons but the retailer kept pushing out the delivery date and when pressed they told me Pirelli had none in stock and couldn't confirm the next production run (confirmed by another 2 retailers) so I cancelled that order and went for Avon Cobras. Local retailers couldn't get hold of the Cobras and told me that Avon was scheduling another production run soon, but I was able to get a set from an online retailer instead.

Not had the Cobras fitted on this bike yet but I did have them on my old 13 FLHX and whilst they still don't compare well to anything I'd fit to a BMW tourer they were a decent improvement over the HD Dunlops.  Recommended tyre pressures for the Cobras are 40/44 according to the Avon website.

FYI I prioritise grip (wet and dry) over mileage.

[TNCarters]

Para Bellum,  I had a front Commander II with about 8000 miles on it start to vibrate at 75 mph feeling like its out of balance.  still had about half tread left and no noticeable defects.  Tire was ordered in by dealer from Drag Specialties.  Was not a terrible vibration, just enough to be annoying vibrating bars and mirrors at interstate speed.  Went back to dealer twice to try and figure out if it was balance, tires, bearings, etc.  Was not getting much satisfaction from dealer giving me a story about pressure, road conditions or other causes.  After MTM I got back home and just replaced it instead of dealing with warranty or the dealer.  Consider this another strike on the dealers service department for not trying to help.  Three strikes and they may lose a future bike sale.

[Para Bellum]

Para Bellum,  I had a front Commander II with about 8000 miles on it start to vibrate at 75 mph feeling like its out of balance.  Went back to dealer twice to try and figure out if it was balance, tires, bearings, etc.  Was not getting much satisfaction from dealer giving me a story about pressure, road conditions or other causes.  After MTM I got back home and just replaced it instead of dealing with warranty or the dealer.  Consider this another strike on the dealers service department for not trying to help.  Three strikes and they may lose a future bike sale.

Sorry to hear that, TN.  Did they happen to say "they all do that?"   

[TNCarters]

No they did not but I kept waiting for the question why I did not go back to the stock Dunlop.  Disappointed in this dealer.  They have been great over the last 6 years and changed service manager about a year ago.  Their whole attitude has changed.  One of the times I went in about the tire I got the too much air story, I had just checked it the day before then rode 30 miles into dealership.  Service writer tried to tell me it had 50 psi of air which I knew better but let him give me his excuse.  Rode home with tire still vibrating and let tire cool.  Rechecked and it had been reduced to 32 psi.  I work for a high end auto dealership and know my gauge is not more than about 1 psi off.

[Texas 103]

I installed the commander ll's about 3000 miles ago, just got home from Maggie Valley tonight, handled very well in the corners, I just hope they don't cup like the  original Dunlap's so far so good


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That's good to hear, just got a CII going to mount it up this weekend...

[Unbalanced]

Just added the C II on the 11 last week to replace scalloped elites (really bad scallop)

[SmokeyJoe]

So here’s something funny. I sent an email to the dealer of the tire which was an online company and asked for a photo, Because they were going to start a warranty action for me. So I sent him a photo and they replied please send us a photo with a knife or something sticking in a tire to show that it is destroyed. I have not done that yet because well I really don’t know how to proceed.

[Rooster]

So here’s something funny. I sent an email to the dealer of the tire which was an online company and asked for a photo, Because they were going to start a warranty action for me. So I sent him a photo and they replied please send us a photo with a knife or something sticking in a tire to show that it is destroyed. I have not done that yet because well I really don’t know how to proceed.

Wow, what a reply. It seems a better reply than that would be more appropriate. Although it sounds like something a dealer employee would say.

[SmokeyJoe]

Looking for a photo on the net to send them

[TN]

Avon is producing a 180/55-18 in the cobra series with a 80 load rating now


http://www.avonmoto.com/street-tires/cruiser-touring/cobra/

TN