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Fewer CVO's for 18?
« on: September 22, 2017, 05:13:18 PM »

I have been told that Harley has cut way back on CVO production for 18.  Any truth to this?
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2017, 09:22:12 PM »

Who supplied you with that info?
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2017, 10:16:23 PM »

I was also told by two dealers that they would be getting way fewer CVO's
this year. The dealer I bought my 14 has never had a problem getting CVO's I called him to ask when he would have a CVO ultra in the dark red fade or what ever they are calling it. He told me did not know if he would get one said he was only getting  6 CVO'S total for the year.  True or not I don't know.
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2017, 12:20:35 AM »

My dealer said the same thing about lower #s, which info came from the dealer show.  Won't really know if it's true until end of year.
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2017, 01:07:38 AM »

I'm hearing fewer CVO's from my dealer also. I was told only 1200 of the anniversary Ultra, and my dealer was getting only 1.
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2017, 01:22:26 AM »

I think all the dealers were told this.
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2017, 09:00:28 AM »


It makes sense if you think about it.  They've been cutting back production on regular models for a few years now due to slowing sales, and dealers have had leftover CVO's over those years as well.  At some point manufacturers have to back off on production OR run a fire sale to clear out older inventory.  Harley is loath to run fire sales, unlike many car companies.

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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2017, 02:21:31 PM »

Went to 2 dealers in Omaha today and no new CVOs
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2017, 04:43:49 PM »

I don't know if it is because of sluggish sales, it makes me think more of how luxury brands like Channel or Hermes handle sales of particular products: small production volume to generate rarity, to tease demand, justifying higher prices. Or like Ferrari, to get one of their top cars you have to be a long time customer...
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2017, 05:10:32 PM »

In my opinion with the ugly paint on the CVO Limited that would be a good choice. My local dealer has the red one and no buyers.
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2017, 06:39:53 PM »

Was at Hales in Mansfield Ohio today and the owner said the same thing, he had two come in and sold both, he didn't really know when he was get his next one and also stated they cut back on production
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2017, 09:07:50 PM »

I'm hearing fewer CVO's from my dealer also. I was told only 1200 of the anniversary Ultra, and my dealer was getting only 1.

All dealers only get one of the Anniversary CVO Limiteds in the blue.
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2017, 09:35:59 PM »

In my opinion with the ugly paint on the CVO Limited that would be a good choice. My local dealer has the red one and no buyers.
What dealer is that.
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2017, 06:32:57 AM »

What dealer is that.

Mount Vernon, IL claims to have one on stock...
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2017, 04:36:29 PM »

Stopped by a stealership on Friday and sales guy said the same thing... Less CVO's in '18. IMO it's probably due to overall sales dropping, I would guess production is/will be lowered on all bikes... don't make sense to build them if you can't sell them. :nixweiss:

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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2017, 11:59:28 PM »

Stopped by a stealership on Friday and sales guy said the same thing... Less CVO's in '18. IMO it's probably due to overall sales dropping, I would guess production is/will be lowered on all bikes... don't make sense to build them if you can't sell them. :nixweiss:

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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2017, 11:12:05 AM »

All dealers only get one of the Anniversary CVO Limiteds in the blue.

Has anyone seen the Anniversary CVO Limiteds or other Anniversary bikes? Pictures? When are they due?

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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2017, 01:00:10 PM »

I'm sure the '18s will hold their value better then.  ::)
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2017, 05:12:29 PM »

Has anyone seen the Anniversary CVO Limiteds or other Anniversary bikes? Pictures? When are they due?

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I have ordered one here in Oz and have a delivery date of Mid January, will be manufactured in November.

P.S this order went in end of July before I even knew colour or Anniversary releases, so to my knowledge
this will be the first one at my dealers.
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« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2017, 06:11:21 PM »

I'm sure the '18s will hold their value better then.  ::)
I agree.  In fact, I'm going to run right out and drop 45 green on one, then shrink-wrap it.  Should make retirement really cush.   :D
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« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2017, 08:19:47 PM »

I was at the AIMExpo yesterday and Harley Davidson had a blue CVO limited anniversary edition on display, the young gal that was guarding it said that they are only producing 1500 anniversary CVO Limited's.....someone must have loaned her the HD corporate shirt because she didn't know a thing about the bike.

It didn't look bad although it was inside and the lighting was poor, the price scared me away.
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2017, 09:30:31 PM »

I was at the AIMExpo yesterday and Harley Davidson had a blue CVO limited anniversary edition on display, the young gal that was guarding it said that they are only producing 1500 anniversary CVO Limited's.....someone must have loaned her the HD corporate shirt because she didn't know a thing about the bike.

It didn't look bad although it was inside and the lighting was poor, the price scared me away.

She doesn't know much, 1200 world wide.
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2017, 11:09:23 PM »

Has anyone seen the Anniversary CVO Limiteds or other Anniversary bikes? Pictures? When are they due?

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Saw one at AIM Expo.  Thought it was absolutely beautiful!
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2017, 11:34:45 PM »

I guess if you keep raising the price it's ok to sell a few less  :nixweiss:
no,no,no moco, is slowing production to concentrate on assembly of every special cvo to the highest standard of assembly ever known!!! its all about very tight specifications etc. etc. you get it,right!! :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :nixweiss:
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2017, 12:26:34 PM »

When I picked up  my 18 cvo limited I was told only 1200 cvo limited period. And that is all colors. I got the first red one in Texas and I have talked to a few dealers that were trying to get it as I was signing the papers. The dealer I got it from used to get 18 of them and are only getting 6 of all the cvos this year.
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2017, 01:31:30 PM »

Not flying off the showroom floor. Local dealer has had a Limited for a month.
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2017, 01:54:01 PM »

Not flying off the showroom floor. Local dealer has had a Limited for a month.

Thunderbird Harley sold the 3 that they had on the showroom floor.
Santa Fe Harley sold the 2 that they had on the showroom floor.

Sales Manager at one store and General Manager at another store told me that their overall allocation of all 2018 models is relatively limited. Around 4 to 5 bikes every cyclical order (4wk? 6wks?).

Also, there is a question about how all the 2018's that got wiped out by Hurricane Harvey and Irma will be replaced. They are afraid it might come out of current production allocations rather than additional production. If that is the case, then Texas and Lousiana dealers who were impacted will get replacements that had been destined to other dealers across the US.

Certainly worth watching HD performance over the next 3-4 quarters.

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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2017, 02:17:41 PM »

Less production also means less problems reported. :huepfenjump3:
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2017, 07:08:15 PM »

Interesting.   :drink:
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2017, 07:37:17 AM »

They have to build less. They are running out of oil pumps....
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2017, 08:09:29 AM »

When I picked up  my 18 cvo limited I was told only 1200 cvo limited period. And that is all colors. I got the first red one in Texas and I have talked to a few dealers that were trying to get it as I was signing the papers. The dealer I got it from used to get 18 of them and are only getting 6 of all the cvos this year.
Another uninformed dealer or salesman. The only CVO that will be 1200 is the CVO Limited in the Anniversary blue color.  Only one per dealer world wide.

Almost as bad as the Dealer that did a Youtube review of the CVO's this year and went on for 5 minutes about what makes the CVO so special is they are built on there own line.  They are built by the best workers only.  That they were 100% hand built

He got pissed when I posted that last hand built, by a team of two in a separate building was 2009.  Since then they have all been on the regular production line.  I toured the CVO line in 09 and again in 10 when on the regular line.
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2017, 09:36:39 AM »

If true then lower production numbers will help the used market retain more value.  Demand is not there, makes sense to keep profit per bike more stable than deep discounting like HD has had to do recently.
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2017, 09:57:07 AM »

Or you could look at it this way.  The MoCo should make more....dilution is the solution for pollution. 

Potentially, the more product you manufacture, the smaller the percentage of bikes there are that have warranty claims.  The less you manufacture, the larger the percentage of warranty claims because you are pulling data from smaller production run numbers.  Plus, if you make more of a product that isn't selling, your warranty claims also go down 'cause all the new bikes are gathering dust in the showroom (and your warranty claims percentages goes down even further....makes you look like everything is peaches and cream....dem  folks in Mylwallkee needs me....)  :stars: :dizzy2: :rolleyes4: 
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2017, 01:13:02 PM »

Or you could look at it this way.  The MoCo should make more....dilution is the solution for pollution. 

Potentially, the more product you manufacture, the smaller the percentage of bikes there are that have warranty claims.  The less you manufacture, the larger the percentage of warranty claims because you are pulling data from smaller production run numbers.  Plus, if you make more of a product that isn't selling, your warranty claims also go down 'cause all the new bikes are gathering dust in the showroom (and your warranty claims percentages goes down even further....makes you look like everything is peaches and cream....dem  folks in Mylwallkee needs me....)  :stars: :dizzy2: :rolleyes4:

You should work for those guys, I think they would understand your logic maybe better than me. A peek into HDs warranty strategies (if there are any) would make my head hurt.   ;D

Another case for more production is maintain market share, even if discounting is the only option.  I think that is what HD has been trying to do to stave off competitors the last few years. If allowed to grow unchecked, they will eventually eat too much of HD's lunch, or market share.  Makes for a buyers market, downside is it depresses used bike prices due to too many bikes on the market at lower original sell price.
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2017, 02:16:30 PM »



I have ordered one here in Oz and have a delivery date of Mid January, will be manufactured in November.

P.S this order went in end of July before I even knew colour or Anniversary releases, so to my knowledge
this will be the first one at my dealers.

I ordered mine in june with hopes of being first in line. Glad i was being every dealer only getting 1. Was told they will be built sometime in December.

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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2017, 02:17:14 PM »

I was at the AIMExpo yesterday and Harley Davidson had a blue CVO limited anniversary edition on display, the young gal that was guarding it said that they are only producing 1500 anniversary CVO Limited's.....someone must have loaned her the HD corporate shirt because she didn't know a thing about the bike.

It didn't look bad although it was inside and the lighting was poor, the price scared me away.
Did you take any pics you could post?

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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2017, 09:27:00 PM »

Or you could look at it this way.  The MoCo should make more....dilution is the solution for pollution. 

Potentially, the more product you manufacture, the smaller the percentage of bikes there are that have warranty claims.  The less you manufacture, the larger the percentage of warranty claims because you are pulling data from smaller production run numbers.  Plus, if you make more of a product that isn't selling, your warranty claims also go down 'cause all the new bikes are gathering dust in the showroom (and your warranty claims percentages goes down even further....makes you look like everything is peaches and cream....dem  folks in Mylwallkee needs me....)  :stars: :dizzy2: :rolleyes4:

I like that logic... LMAO...  ;D
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2017, 11:30:50 PM »

I went to my dealer today to pick up a shirt and finally saw the CVO Roadglide. I agree it looks much better in person and I loved the 21 inch front wheel. They were asking $1200 over MSRP but told me they would take sticker. He showed me a copy of the asking price from San Diego Harley where they are asking $10,500 over MSRP that a customer took a pic of which is insane!
He told me he was getting about half as many CVO's this year as he did last year. He has always been straight with me before and also knows I am not in the market so I do believe him
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CVO Shipments for '18 Models Cut by Two-Thirds?
« Reply #38 on: October 22, 2017, 10:02:12 PM »

Four forum members visited two different dealers this past Saturday in the Kansas City area.  One dealer had one new CVO, the other had maybe 2+. 
The second one had a beautiful Ultra, but was asking $49,995 for it.  Yes, that's right, and it's no misprint.
When we asked why, he said their incoming CVO shipments for 18's were being drastically cut because factory production has been cut by 66%.  Now, I don't know if this is true, but this guy told us they were charging the $7k premium because of that production cut.
We all left pretty disgusted with the whole thing. 
Yes, a dealer is entitled to make money.  Yes, they can charge what they want for the bikes.  But a $7k markup over MSRP is a 17% bump over MSRP. 
And here we thought the CVO's were already over priced.

Anybody out there got any intel on this subject, or seen something like this at their dealerships?
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Re: CVO Shipments for '18 Models Cut by Two-Thirds?
« Reply #39 on: October 23, 2017, 07:56:34 AM »

I am sure that is why they had 2018 CVO's on the floor, especially 2 in one dealership.

I have yet to see an 2018 CVO on the showroom floor.  Dealers in my area are MSRP.  Dealer I do business with has already sold four 2018's and not a one hit the floor, sold before they came in.  I know the next two that come in are also sold units.
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Re: CVO Shipments for '18 Models Cut by Two-Thirds?
« Reply #40 on: October 23, 2017, 09:04:30 AM »

2/3rds cutback sounds fishy.  $7k premium sounds like a hook.  Destination Daytona (last time I checked) was getting away with BS like this.  And on CVOs if you checked back in a week or 2, they would be gone.  Am thinking it's a PT Barnum exercise, and buyers with more money than sense keep it going.
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Re: CVO Shipments for '18 Models Cut by Two-Thirds?
« Reply #41 on: October 23, 2017, 09:29:45 AM »

It's gotta be a new sales movement, too.  As in the dealership of which Dave is speaking moves a lot of new inventory over the model year.  With that comes more bikes from the MoCo because they know SMHD will sell 'em to include CVO's.  The other dealer in the K'ville area (not counting Smokey's in Morristown) doesn't move as many new bikes even with their two locations and therefore doesn't get as many including CVO's.  Thing is, they are both MSRP dealers but Scott outperforms the East TN dealerships on a regular basis so he is allotted more bikes.  If a dealership is selling way over MSRP, the folks that purchase are the suckers, not the dealership. 
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Re: CVO Shipments for '18 Models Cut by Two-Thirds?
« Reply #42 on: October 23, 2017, 09:44:14 AM »

It's gotta be a new sales movement, too.  As in the dealership of which Dave is speaking moves a lot of new inventory over the model year.  With that comes more bikes from the MoCo because they know SMHD will sell 'em to include CVO's.  The other dealer in the K'ville area (not counting Smokey's in Morristown) doesn't move as many new bikes even with their two locations and therefore doesn't get as many including CVO's.  Thing is, they are both MSRP dealers but Scott outperforms the East TN dealerships on a regular basis so he is allotted more bikes.  If a dealership is selling way over MSRP, the folks that purchase are the suckers, not the dealership.

Agreed.

New buyers, the uneducated in the way of Harley Dealers, never consider shopping outside their area. Shopping outside your state/region for MSRP dealers and those willing to make a deal can be big leverage with your local dealer. However, I am sure some are still stubborn and they may well have their precious CVO's on the floor for a while.

IMO the dealers are trying to come to terms with lower sales, production, and allotments. Some view these challenges and try to make it up in margin. The problem is that you have to find someone to pay an inflated price. I have seen them land inflated sales but it's either from someone with disposable income or a person that just needs to be the first on the block with that new CVO (or whatever).

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Re: CVO Shipments for '18 Models Cut by Two-Thirds?
« Reply #43 on: October 23, 2017, 09:46:17 AM »

Some dealers receive their CVOs and then go "fishing."  They put the bike on the floor with an "over MSRP" price tag and see if they get any hits.  If not, no big deal, they'll start reducing the price.  It's easy to do this at the beginning of the production run because if it doesn't sell, they've got plenty of time to reduce the price before the '19s come out.

I'm sure HD sales staff try to spin the "fewer CVO production in 2018" as a positive thing, exclusivity, etc., which of course they'll say demands a higher price.     
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #44 on: October 23, 2017, 05:56:43 PM »

i have yet to see a new/2018 CVO, and have been told the same thing...fewer CVOs. Dillon Brothers in Omaha said they have got 4 and all sold before they arrived   :nixweiss: going to be an interesting year if its true
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #45 on: October 24, 2017, 01:44:08 AM »

i have yet to see a new/2018 CVO, and have been told the same thing...fewer CVOs. Dillon Brothers in Omaha said they have got 4 and all sold before they arrived   :nixweiss: going to be an interesting year if its true

Worth HD in KC had 3 2018MY CVO's on the floor on Saturday when I visited (1 Road Glide and 2 Street Glides).  I realize this isn't Omaha, but isn't that far away.  I ordered my 2018 CVO RG from St. Joe HD.  I'm in Northwest MO so maybe I'll catch you on the road sometime.  :drummer:
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #46 on: October 24, 2017, 12:18:20 PM »

Yeah I rode the new RG CVO, that 21 rode like a wheel barrow. Nice bar hopper if you like that kind of thing. Me, nope!

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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #47 on: October 24, 2017, 12:45:05 PM »

Yeah I rode the new RG CVO, that 21 rode like a wheel barrow. Nice bar hopper if you like that kind of thing. Me, nope!

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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #48 on: October 24, 2017, 07:16:44 PM »

Worth HD in KC had 3 2018MY CVO's on the floor on Saturday when I visited (1 Road Glide and 2 Street Glides).  I realize this isn't Omaha, but isn't that far away.  I ordered my 2018 CVO RG from St. Joe HD.  I'm in Northwest MO so maybe I'll catch you on the road sometime.  :drummer:  i was in KC last week end for the race but didnt stop in to worth hd ... witch i usually do, dang. congrats on the new bike
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #49 on: October 25, 2017, 06:45:01 AM »

This would be no sweat off my balls and the same applies if they stopped CVO production altogether. I'll never forget my first (and last) CVO I was so happy to purchase in 2005. Long story short ... my beautiful Candy Cherry happily turned into nothing but a problem child I traded for an '07 GW. People are wising up and realizing that high price tag doesn't mean higher quality too. I personally have had better luck with their "lesser" or "regular" line-up than the one I had years ago. I could hit the lotto and become a millionaire and still never buy another CVO again. I know some of you love your's and that's awesome, but for me that word leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #50 on: October 25, 2017, 08:39:29 AM »

Then why are you on a cvo forum?
I have had 4 cvos and the only problem i have had was the power ignition stopped locking on my 13.
Ive put about 30-40 thousand miles on each. I guess the key is to ride them, not let them sit.

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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #51 on: October 25, 2017, 08:54:32 AM »

Then why are you on a cvo forum?

CVOHarley.com welcomes all comers. Whether you have a motorcycle or not, a CVO or not. It's a quality forum, free of advertising with great information and members. Hell, I showed up at the Redwoods GTG with a BMW and I only had to wash 3 Harleys for them to let me come along on the rides  :D
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« Reply #52 on: October 25, 2017, 09:30:59 AM »

Then why are you on a cvo forum?
I have had 4 cvos and the only problem i have had was the power ignition stopped locking on my 13.
Ive put about 30-40 thousand miles on each. I guess the key is to ride them, not let them sit.

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Go to the M8 section of this forum...it seems riding them is what's causing the problems.
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #53 on: October 25, 2017, 10:26:50 AM »

Then why are you on a cvo forum?
I have had 4 cvos and the only problem i have had was the power ignition stopped locking on my 13.
Ive put about 30-40 thousand miles on each. I guess the key is to ride them, not let them sit.

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Maybe you haven't been around here long enough to know, but it's for the people here and other benefits of this site is why I'm here, not because whether or not I have or had a CVO. How would like to scrape, borrow beg, plead or whatever to finance over 35 grand for what you THOUGHT was the bike of your dreams only to have all that flushed down the toilet? I tried to give HD the benefit of the doubt for two years and finally gave up and traded the pos. Good for you if your's has been trouble-free, but that's not the case for some of us. You obviously don't know me either because this wouldn't be my first or second time going back/forth to HD. If you thought this site was only for CVO owners, you can lose that thought. The MoCo is losing sales for a reason and it's not because my bikes sat like queens in a garage because they don't, I ride them. If I wanted something to stare at, I would buy a model.   
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« Reply #54 on: October 25, 2017, 10:30:56 AM »

Go to the M8 section of this forum...it seems riding them is what's causing the problems.

LOL, glad I never went to even look at or ride one!
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« Reply #55 on: October 25, 2017, 11:28:36 AM »

Maybe you haven't been around here long enough to know, but it's for the people here and other benefits of this site is why I'm here, not because whether or not I have or had a CVO. How would like to scrape, borrow beg, plead or whatever to finance over 35 grand for what you THOUGHT was the bike of your dreams only to have all that flushed down the toilet? I tried to give HD the benefit of the doubt for two years and finally gave up and traded the pos. Good for you if your's has been trouble-free, but that's not the case for some of us. You obviously don't know me either because this wouldn't be my first or second time going back/forth to HD. If you thought this site was only for CVO owners, you can lose that thought. The MoCo is losing sales for a reason and it's not because my bikes sat like queens in a garage because they don't, I ride them. If I wanted something to stare at, I would buy a model.
I guess i shouldn't buy a new harley because 13 years ago you had a problem.  Maybe i can get a deal on a wing and a preis

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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #56 on: October 25, 2017, 11:41:58 AM »

I guess i shouldn't buy a new harley because 13 years ago you had a problem.  Maybe i can get a deal on a wing and a preis

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« Reply #57 on: October 25, 2017, 05:42:35 PM »

Maybe you haven't been around here long enough to know, but it's for the people here and other benefits of this site is why I'm here, not because whether or not I have or had a CVO. How would like to scrape, borrow beg, plead or whatever to finance over 35 grand for what you THOUGHT was the bike of your dreams only to have all that flushed down the toilet? I tried to give HD the benefit of the doubt for two years and finally gave up and traded the pos. Good for you if your's has been trouble-free, but that's not the case for some of us. You obviously don't know me either because this wouldn't be my first or second time going back/forth to HD. If you thought this site was only for CVO owners, you can lose that thought. The MoCo is losing sales for a reason and it's not because my bikes sat like queens in a garage because they don't, I ride them. If I wanted something to stare at, I would buy a model.

I may be new here, but I know that if you need to "scrape, borrow, beg and plead" to buy a toy you are in way over your head..... :nixweiss:
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« Reply #58 on: October 25, 2017, 05:44:26 PM »

I may be new here, but I know that if you need to "scrape, borrow, beg and plead" to buy a toy you are in way over your head..... :nixweiss:
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #59 on: October 25, 2017, 07:22:48 PM »

Gentlemen,
Nobody's going to argue that HD's are not without their problems.  Nor are the dealers.  And certainly the CVO's aren't either.
Have you ever owned a car that was flawless?  Or a house?  Or a spouse?   :P

Nobody on this site should be so pro Harley (OR PRO GW OR BMW) that they put other people's choices down.  There's just no room for that here.

I have owned a Wing and loved it.  I have lusted after BMW's and Indians, but then I have lusted after a dozen different HD's other than the one I own.

This particular thread is a discussion about the rumor (or truth?) that HD may be turning out less CVO's in 2018.

If you want to debate the pro's and con's of buying decisions or spending money, or even what kind of bike you prefer...start your own thread.

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« Reply #60 on: October 25, 2017, 08:03:44 PM »

I’m waiting on a CVO Livewire.  :orange:


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« Reply #61 on: October 25, 2017, 08:05:31 PM »

I’m waiting on a CVO Livewire.  :orange:


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CVO Livewire, has a Tour-Pak that's filled with an extra battery!  :drummer:

No doubt, they got speakers and amps in the saddlebags now.  :drink:

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I’m waiting on a CVO Livewire.  :orange:


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« Reply #65 on: October 27, 2017, 01:19:04 PM »

Pensacola Harley has had four in the first week after the dealers show.Two are still on the floor,The ugly battleship grey color on both,Street glide and road glide.the two that sold as soon is they hit the floor,Cvo Ultra fade to black ,and the black road glide ,both nice looking bikes,but to plain of looking paint for a cvo.
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #66 on: October 29, 2017, 08:42:11 AM »

I have been trying to find a gunship street glide for quite a while here in NC. All dealers are telling me is they are all sold and are getting anywhere from 1000 to 10 grand over Msrp  Crazy! Back to the days of pissing off customers and price gouging. Kind of stupid when every dealer I have visited over the past month you can here crickets chirping from the lack of any customers looking or even visiting dealers anywhere in central NC. I will wait till they are packed with bikes unsold and then laugh as I did approx 9 years ago when the economy tanked.
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #67 on: October 29, 2017, 09:16:05 AM »

I have been trying to find a gunship street glide for quite a while here in NC. All dealers are telling me is they are all sold and are getting anywhere from 1000 to 10 grand over Msrp  Crazy! Back to the days of pissing off customers and price gouging. Kind of stupid when every dealer I have visited over the past month you can here crickets chirping from the lack of any customers looking or even visiting dealers anywhere in central NC. I will wait till they are packed with bikes unsold and then laugh as I did approx 9 years ago when the economy tanked.

Lots of chirping in New Mexico HD Dealers but all of their CVOs are SOLD. Stream of 2018 Touring models is just starting to trickle onto the showroom floor.
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #68 on: October 29, 2017, 10:35:48 AM »

Lots of chirping in New Mexico HD Dealers but all of their CVOs are SOLD. Stream of 2018 Touring models is just starting to trickle onto the showroom floor.
all the dealers here are packed with street glide and road glide specials..none selling.
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #69 on: October 29, 2017, 11:26:46 AM »

all the dealers here are packed with street glide and road glide specials..none selling.

Maybe that's why I got such a great deal on mine. Works for me :)
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #70 on: October 30, 2017, 08:22:32 AM »

all the dealers here are packed with street glide and road glide specials..none selling.

They are selling very well in my area.  Have yet to see a 18 CVO on the show room floor, they are all sold before they arrive.  They have a waiting list for them. 
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #71 on: October 30, 2017, 09:24:56 AM »

They are selling very well in my area.  Have yet to see a 18 CVO on the show room floor, they are all sold before they arrive.  They have a waiting list for them.
Agreed although I'm a little surprised at the amount of first time CVO buyers. My local dealer got the Orange SERG in and a dealer out of state wanted in and made them a sweet trade for it.

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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #72 on: November 14, 2017, 10:23:30 AM »

i was told by 2 dealers in the past 2 weeks that '18 CVO production is about 1/2 of previous years. but production on the whole line is down...every dealer showroom i walk into has about 40% less bikes!
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #73 on: January 09, 2018, 08:56:48 AM »

I am a first time CVO buyer a 2014 CVO Softail Deluxe I absolutely love this bike. In the winter here I go to my garage daily just to look at my bike hoping the snow melts and I can go riding again. Have owned countless bikes over the last 50 yrs. (only 2 Harleys) but since Harley came out with CVOs have always dreamed of owning one :). Now at 69 I am planning on doing a lot of riding with the wife so this is my story of a very happy owner of my CVO
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #74 on: January 09, 2018, 09:25:48 AM »

I am a first time CVO buyer a 2014 CVO Softail Deluxe I absolutely love this bike. In the winter here I go to my garage daily just to look at my bike hoping the snow melts and I can go riding again. Have owned countless bikes over the last 50 yrs. (only 2 Harleys) but since Harley came out with CVOs have always dreamed of owning one :). Now at 69 I am planning on doing a lot of riding with the wife so this is my story of a very happy owner of my CVO
congrats on the bike. ride on is what i say! :2vrolijk_21: :pineapple: :pepper:
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #75 on: January 09, 2018, 01:16:31 PM »

I am a first time CVO buyer a 2014 CVO Softail Deluxe I absolutely love this bike. In the winter here I go to my garage daily just to look at my bike hoping the snow melts and I can go riding again. Have owned countless bikes over the last 50 yrs. (only 2 Harleys) but since Harley came out with CVOs have always dreamed of owning one :). Now at 69 I am planning on doing a lot of riding with the wife so this is my story of a very happy owner of my CVO

Enjoy, nice ride! Good to get to do the things we want, on the bike we want.  :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #76 on: January 12, 2018, 12:53:05 PM »

Congrats on your new ride!  I love to hear stories like this.  I can tell that you are young at heart  :orange:
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #77 on: January 12, 2018, 04:35:13 PM »

I've only bought cvo bikes last 10 years and I've ridden more miles than probably 99% of the people on this forum. The price is important but you can negotiate and make it work if you want it back enough.
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #78 on: January 12, 2018, 06:37:58 PM »

... I've ridden more miles than probably 99% of the people on this forum...

Now that's an invite to a thread hijack if I ever saw one. :)

So just how many miles have you ridden in the last 10 years? Wait, I'll start a new thread and you can reply there.

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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #79 on: January 12, 2018, 06:41:42 PM »

Now that's an invite to a thread hijack if I ever saw one. :)

So just how many miles have you ridden in the last 10 years? Wait, I'll start a new thread and you can reply there.

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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #80 on: January 14, 2018, 05:53:06 PM »

I've ridden more miles than probably 99% of the people on this forum.
Nothing personal but I couldn't resist.   ;D
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Re: Fewer CVO's for 18?
« Reply #81 on: January 21, 2018, 08:49:33 PM »

As most have stated the dealers are all claiming exclusivity on the new CVO's and Anniversary bikes. Local dealers in Los Angeles have had about one of each so far that I could find. Price has gone up accordingly. Local dealer got the red fade in and I loved it's looks. I hated my 2016 CVO limited as it sounded like I was on a model A most of the time. I 've had some great HD bikes my 2016 CVO was not one of them. I inquired regarding a trade for the 2018  just based on looks ,  he wanted crazy money out the door with full warranty of almost 57K. I walked away and told him I'd see him next month after he paid flooring on it and had a chance to dust it off for a few weeks. Next month he lowered the price around 3K and uped his offer  on my 2016. Still no deal. Told him Id' stop by at the end of the year to see if he wants to continue to hold on to it going into the new year. Ran into him in November and asked him if he was tired of staring at the red fade bike yet and he waved me in to the dealership and we made a deal for a bit less than 50K out the door with extended warranties etc.
Absolutely love the bike ! love the red fade color and I never would have believed the difference both in the M8 and the new 117. Dropped a ton of cash for sure both in the lost $$ on the low miles 2016 POS and the new 2018 but it doesn't hurt as bad because i love the bike .
Been back to the dealership a few times and amazed how many late model used CVO's he has in his used bike inventory. And some bargains on low mileage , nice looking CVO's. Especially when they are getting MSRP and better for the new ones. Several 2 and 3 year old CVO's with less than 10K miles on them around 30K asking.
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