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[Robmay]

So I guess the only difference other than styling (which I like) is that the bags and top case are not removable. Weird.

[JCZ]

So I guess the only difference other than styling (which I like) is that the bags and top case are not removable. Weird.

The B doesn't have a top box.  I'm not sure if the bags are removable from either one.  Never rode any of my Ultra Classics without the bags so it wasn't even a question to ask, for me.   But did think it's odd that the top box on the Grand America is not removable. 

[SDCVO]

The B doesn't have a top box.  I'm not sure if the bags are removable from either one.  Never rode any of my Ultra Classics without the bags so it wasn't even a question to ask, for me.   But did think it's odd that the top box on the Grand America is not removable.

Bags or top box not removable on B or GA

[FLSTFI Dave]

Only 15K less than a CVO, and it does't come with sumping. 

[JCZ]

So I guess the only difference other than styling (which I like) is that the bags and top case are not removable. Weird.

Not sure if the GTL has the Pro Shift.  You can shift gears at throttle without using the clutch.

[Fullsac Performance]

Bags or top box not removable on B or GA

I believe when BMW states "non removable", they are comparing it to the "quick detach" side bags and top box on the GT and GTL. You can literally flip up the handle and walk away with the side bags or "Pannier" as luggage. I'm learning new words.The Top box is a 2 minute removal  as shown in this vid. Note the functional luggage rack that remains. For what ever reason, the B model side bags are not quick detach like the GT and GTL. Of course you can unbolt them same as a Harley. Maybe the Germans thought the possibility of the black paint getting scuffed on the way up to the hotel room was Fubar and the quick detach option got Kaput?



Steve@fullsac.com

[ultrarider123]

I believe when BMW states "non removable", they are comparing it to the "quick detach" side bags and top box on the GT and GTL. You can literally flip up the handle and walk away with the side bags or "Pannier" as luggage. I'm learning new words.The Top box is a 2 minute removal  as shown in this vid. Note the functional luggage rack that remains. For what ever reason, the B model side bags are not quick detach like the GT and GTL. Of course you can unbolt them same as a Harley. Maybe the Germans thought the possibility of the black paint getting scuffed on the way up to the hotel room was Fubar and the quick detach option got Kaput?



Steve@fullsac.com

You know, watching this video is making me angry.  Most "modern" motorcycles are so easy to work on for things like this.  How simple was it for engineers to sit around the room and design this, submit and implement?  Simple, easy, quick and as you stated Steve, it leaves you with a nice luggage rack.  This didn't cost anything extra to "add" to be able to remove (same thing with Indian's trunk, too).  Give the people what they want and they will come a'runnin.

Harley?  They still can't figure out how to design an simple oiling system.....

[JCZ]

Steve the GTL has had the removable top box.  But they're saying that the top box on the Grand America is not removable.

Alan, when you test rode the GA are you able to use the pro shift (without a clutch) with full throttle or just maintain where you're at when you shift?

[Fullsac Performance]

Steve the GTL has had the removable top box.  But they're saying that the top box on the Grand America is not removable.

Alan, when you test rode the GA are you able to use the pro shift (without a clutch) with full throttle or just maintain where you're at when you shift?

Everything is removable. Just may need a tool box to do it.

Steve@fullsac.com

[Fullsac Performance]

Harley?  They still can't figure out how to design an simple oiling system.....
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Back in the day, BMW had the coolest looking bikes on the road. I don't know how they lost there way, but if they continue to regain their cosmetic swagger, sales are going to follow. Harleys latest mechanical floundering is only going to help.

Steve@fullsasc.com

[iski]

Back in the day, BMW had the coolest looking bikes on the road. I don't know how they lost there way, but if they continue to regain their cosmetic swagger, sales are going to follow. Harleys latest mechanical floundering is only going to help.

Steve@fullsasc.com

True, in the 60's the BMW baggers were head turners.

[Fullsac Performance]

True, in the 60's the BMW baggers were head turners.

Those are nice looking Bags. What the hell happened? lol....

Steve@fullsac.com

[ultrarider123]

If the good Lord had seen fit to give me longer legs, I would'a had one of these (this color, too) back in 1999.  I test rode one for half a day all over East TN (FLSTFI Dave, remember when McNutt's was over on Lovell Rd. and the only BMW dealer in East TN?) and loved the ride/power/seating position but I was tip-toes when stopped and that killed it for me.

[FlaHeatWave]

Found some Beemer Porn for y'all at Motorweek on Velocity S 37 Ep 35,,,

Has a "Short Ride" segment on the "B"

[iski]

Those are nice looking Bags. What the hell happened? lol....

Steve@fullsac.com

 
Back when I was overpaid at $1 per hour for pulling motors & trannys & whatever in a garage so the real mechanics could work on them - after school job in 1970 - Harleys (too much $$$) and the old Indians were very cool, Norton, BSA, Triumph, Moto Guzzi, & BMW were "if I ever had the money dream machines", and the Japanese bikes were all I could hope to afford.

Looking at bikes in the late 90s/early 2000s (spending my kids college money a long story no point to it except got a Road King) recall BMWs being ugly as hell boxes.  A little better these days.  They always ran like scalded dogs no matter how they looked.