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Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« on: March 12, 2008, 12:22:15 AM »

Not promising to pay heed to any particular bit of advice but willing to listen to and consider all of it.  Sometime this spring/summer will be getting an inner fairing painted for the red SERG.  The bike is three shades of red and just want to make sure I'm considering any good options even if I didn't think of them myself.

The three reds don't exist on all the tins.  Rear fender and tour pak are this middle red.  Pretty sure this is standard Harley "Luxury Rich Red."
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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2008, 12:22:42 AM »

The tank has all three colors also.
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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2008, 12:23:11 AM »

And the fairing incorporates all three in the bird.
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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2008, 12:24:23 AM »

The outer where it meets the inner is predominantly the darker red though.  As is the gauge nacelle (which I absolutely love) and the dash as they visually feed up to the inner fairing.
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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2008, 12:26:40 AM »

The fairing then seems most likely to be a one color of the dark red.  The flash lightens it up a bit but it is a very dark red. 

Down low on the inner all three colors present to the inner from the tank.  So there are at least options for two tones on the inner.  Even if the second color were only just down low. 

So, any ideas?
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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2008, 12:27:44 AM »

One other view.  Also just noticed that the flash and poor lighting in the garage combined to make the inner appear to have a red-ish tint.  It's not.  Typical flat black.
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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2008, 12:37:47 AM »

I don't see the vote for "Leave it Black". ::) :2vrolijk_21: ;D

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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2008, 12:47:11 AM »

Although it'll never be as nice as Chuckie's, I say paint it the brighter red to contrast the darker red in the nacelle.

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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2008, 03:52:48 AM »

Although it'll never be as nice as Chuckie's, I say paint it the brighter red to contrast the darker red in the nacelle.
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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2008, 04:01:28 AM »

Although it'll never be as nice as Chuckie's, I say paint it the brighter red to contrast the darker red in the nacelle.

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You guys are talking about that "middle" red not the very brightest red; right?




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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2008, 07:32:16 AM »

 
Just my $0.02, but I'd do it the same color as the gauge housing, otherwise it might look too much like you're trying to make something fancy or cute happen there that shouldn't.

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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2008, 07:34:46 AM »

My first thought is the same as Brian's, go with the match. Regardless, you gotta get rid of the black torx screws and go with some bling, like maybe polished stainless 12 points. :nixweiss:

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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2008, 07:39:50 AM »

I'd paint it red.
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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2008, 08:04:14 AM »


Just my $0.02, but I'd do it the same color as the gauge housing, otherwise it might look too much like you're trying to make something fancy or cute happen there that shouldn't.



A voice of reason!
Good call Brian!
Having been there and done it the same color as the gauge housing I agree the same is best.
If you do it any different then it just looks like another of the hundreds of custom paint schemes.
Doing it like the gauge housing looks great and people will think it's factory stock!
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Flat black plastic sucks. Especially after the sun has beat on it for a few years! That's why the two Classics are getting done also!

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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2008, 08:12:06 AM »

Although it'll never be as nice as Chuckie's, I say paint it the brighter red to contrast the darker red in the nacelle.

I just hope Don never crashes and burns so the insurance company pays the cost of a dark red inner fairing!


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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2008, 08:14:01 AM »

If it were me I'd paint it the same color as the tourpak that way I could have an extra tourpak painted at the same time. :sneaky: :wiseguy: :evilgrin: :huepfenlol2:

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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2008, 11:42:46 AM »


Having been there and done it the same color as the gauge housing I agree the same is best.
If you do it any different then it just looks like another of the hundreds of custom paint schemes.
Doing it like the gauge housing looks great and people will think it's factory stock!
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That is my very strong inclination.  The gauge pod looks very sharp right there in your line of sight.  Even complementary alterntive colors I'm afraid would detract from that.  I want to expand on that visual statement not detract from it or minimize it.

I also want it to look like it belongs there.  The dark red would certainly be best for that.  So any alteration from all dark red would have to be subtle variation.  I'm not after drama here.  Just wanted to see if some particularely good idea happened to occur to someone that would follow this theme.
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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2008, 12:11:08 PM »


That is my very strong inclination.  The gauge pod looks very sharp right there in your line of sight.  Even complementary alterntive colors I'm afraid would detract from that.  I want to expand on that visual statement not detract from it or minimize it.

I also want it to look like it belongs there.  The dark red would certainly be best for that.  So any alteration from all dark red would have to be subtle variation.  I'm not after drama here.  Just wanted to see if some particularely good idea happened to occur to someone that would follow this theme.

Since this is not one of those "Time is of the essence" situations then wait and look at mine at CHL.
I think you will be pleased.

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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2008, 12:54:19 PM »

I'm with AJ, Candy, and Gary.
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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2008, 01:03:28 PM »

Not promising to pay heed to any particular bit of advice but willing to listen to and consider all of it.  Sometime this spring/summer will be getting an inner fairing painted for the red SERG.  The bike is three shades of red and just want to make sure I'm considering any good options even if I didn't think of them myself.

The three reds don't exist on all the tins.  Rear fender and tour pak are this middle red.  Pretty sure this is standard Harley "Luxury Rich Red."

These bikes are very rare Iam trying to keep mine as original looking as possible which is very hard to do, in 00 I bought a bike like yours new and in the sun light you could see that deep burgendy in the inner fairing which none of the other Glides had I thought that was special just my 2 cents.


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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2008, 01:08:41 PM »

Match the guage nacelle.
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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2008, 04:23:22 PM »

You guys are talking about that "middle" red not the very brightest red; right?






Yes, the middle red. You want it to look like it was done that way from the factory. I wonder if you could get away with an orange inner fairing on the '00 O/B/W?

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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2008, 05:18:55 PM »

FWIW - I've always liked the dark cherry on my inner fairing and how it matches the dark cherry on the tins and tank. Nanners have the yellow and they luv it but I like the darker stuff shining up at me as opposed to the bright. The RG has the black pod and I think that compliments the darker paint as opposed to the stark contrast that a lighter shade will give. Guess I won't win many shows.
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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2008, 05:20:17 PM »

I'm surprised no one has questioned this area.
My painter said to let the paint cure for a month and then I can clean up this section.


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« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2008, 05:23:49 PM »

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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2008, 08:36:03 PM »

Same as the gauge housing, just like on the other bike (upper & lower)
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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2008, 09:27:31 PM »

Good news.  Harley made the decision very simple this afternoon.

The local dealership is an interesting contradiction.  The shop is always an accident waiting for the next mistake to happen.  Surreal are the quantity and quality of mistakes that can come so repetitively from there.

Two parts guy, however, are just great.  Will bend over backwards to find not just parts but information as well.  Whether you're buying the part or not.

The part number for the red inner fairing from the parts manual isn't a good number anymore.  So you assume it's been discontinued.  I have found a couple of typos in this parts manual though so called one of the counter guys this afternoon to confirm if the number is old and discontinue or perhaps just wrong.

First look said it was just an old part number no longer available.  Then he volunteers to look farther.  Grabs "the paint book" and some other CVO information I'd never seen before.  Looks and looks.  Calls Harley.  Calls me back a half hour later to say "here you go Don, they've changed that number" but somehow the supercession never got tied to the old part number.  Same deal on the number in the parts manual for the tour pak spoiler.

Summary is that there is a good part number for a painted to match dark red inner fairing and it's not even horrendously expensive.  $335.00.   Getting the local paint shop to scan, mix small batches, make however many storyboard sprays needed to match the color then prep and spray an inner would cost at least close to that much.  So will just order this corrected part number from Harley and (hopefully) not even have to worry about the paint match.
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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2008, 09:49:08 PM »

Good news...
The part number for the red inner fairing from the parts manual isn't a good number anymore...


Which color "red" is it then?

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« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2008, 09:52:20 PM »


Which color "red" is it then?

It's the original dark red.  What Harley had painted for it from day one.  In some places the manual calls it simply "dark red" and in others the manual calls it "brandywine."  Whatever they call it I'm ordering one.  A nice well waxed dark red inner is going to be SO MUCH better than an old plastic flat black piece staring back at me that's already almost 9 years old.

Wonder how much of a pain this thing is to change on a Road Glide :nixweiss: ?
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« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2008, 09:57:39 PM »

It's the original dark red.  What Harley had painted for it from day one.  ...

So the question now is did they do the same for the O/B/W? ie an orange inner?

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« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2008, 09:59:39 PM »

So the question now is did they do the same for the O/B/W? ie an orange inner?

Sounds like you're getting really interested. Should we all start looking for you?

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« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2008, 10:06:23 PM »

Sounds like you're getting really interested. Should we all start looking for you?

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I'll know more by this weekend. I've still got to sell the Mustang.

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« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2008, 10:07:13 PM »

So the question now is did they do the same for the O/B/W? ie an orange inner?

The orange/black/white bikes had just a black inner fairing.  The number in the parts catalog is still good though it's gone through standard supercessions (no outright change of part number).  Part number is 58735-98D.  Red one was the model that got a painted inner fairing (on most of them).
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« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2008, 10:07:50 PM »

I'll know more by this weekend. I've still got to sell the Mustang.

Have an orange and black nibbling the hook?
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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #34 on: March 12, 2008, 10:16:47 PM »

Have an orange and black nibbling the hook?

An '00 SERG was the first Screamin Eagle that I had ever seen and yes I fell in love. Then I did my research and realized they were no longer made and went for the SEUC2 which should have been the last Ultra made for a while. So, yes, there may be one in the future seeing that I don't really need a trailer now.

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« Reply #35 on: March 12, 2008, 10:23:20 PM »

An '00 SERG was the first Screamin Eagle that I had ever seen and yes I fell in love. Then I did my research and realized they were no longer made and went for the SEUC2 which should have been the last Ultra made for a while. So, yes, there may be one in the future seeing that I don't really need a trailer now.

We had the same first reactions to the SERG's AJ.  You've got good taste :2vrolijk_21: .

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« Reply #36 on: March 12, 2008, 11:44:48 PM »

Slightly more involved here than I first thought.  There are two inner fairing part number.  One for a bare inner by itself.  Another for an inner fairing "assembly."

The assembly included the storage lids and some other very small bits.

The inner isn't the only thing that's red.  The storage lids are too.  Also (and I didn't realize this until a few minutes ago), the fake leather storage compartments in the fairing lowers are dark red too.  I thought mine were black until I held a light up to them a moment ago.  Definitely dark red though.  Will probably look better after some leather cleaner and dressing.

The new part number that somehow got lost in the supercession history is the bare inner.  The original part numbers for the red storage lids and for the red storage compartments for the lowers are all still good numbers.

Fortunately I don't need the pieces for the lowers.  $250-300 to cover everything for both sides there.  The upper inner's storage lids are less.  About $65 per in red.  Now just have to get up the courage to order the painted parts and the patience to wait for them.
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« Reply #37 on: March 12, 2008, 11:53:36 PM »

Slightly more involved here than I first thought.  ...

I wonder if you order them if how long it will take. I'm just wondering if they really are avaiilable and not just a P/N listed as a potential part. After some time they have to stop making these parts.

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« Reply #38 on: March 13, 2008, 12:13:34 AM »

I wonder if you order them if how long it will take. I'm just wondering if they really are avaiilable and not just a P/N listed as a potential part. After some time they have to stop making these parts.

Can't know until we try.  I just finished keying the order in to Chicago Harley.  Their $333 for the painted inner was $40 cheaper then anyone else and $90 less than MSRP.  Also commensurately cheaper on the painted doors.

So we'll find out soon enough if availability is real.  If not I'll get one painted locally and do the thing that way.
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« Reply #39 on: March 13, 2008, 12:15:55 AM »

 
You can order online through them and get the 20% discount?  Got a link?

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« Reply #40 on: March 13, 2008, 12:20:30 AM »


You can order online through them and get the 20% discount?  Got a link?



Chicago Harley?  Right on their main page website.  With the exception of one few month stretch two years or so ago they've been setup for online discounted ordering for a long time.

http://www.chicagoharley.com
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« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2008, 12:25:33 AM »

Chicago Harley?  Right on their main page website.  With the exception of one few month stretch two years or so ago they've been setup for online discounted ordering for a long time.

http://www.chicagoharley.com

Never used them before.  You might recall me posting about the fiasco I went through on the phone with them the first time I tried to use them.  Never give them a second thought when ordering stuff since that time (probably about 2 1/2 years ago), just call Jenni (plus, Jenni is out of state, so no sales tax unlike Chicago H-D), but they show stock on some FXR stuff I'm looking for, so I'm going to swallow my pride and pay the sales tax if they actually do have the stuff.  Planned to call them tomorrow, but if I can do it sitting here, I will.

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« Reply #42 on: March 13, 2008, 12:38:51 AM »

 
Crap.  No such luck.  Thanks for the link, but looks like I'll have to call tomorrow.  For the parts I entered, it said, "There is no product that matches the search criteria," yet the dealer here said they show stock. :-\

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« Reply #43 on: March 13, 2008, 12:44:11 AM »


Crap.  No such luck.  Thanks for the link, but looks like I'll have to call tomorrow.  For the parts I entered, it said, "There is no product that matches the search criteria," yet the dealer here said they show stock. :-\



Internet orders there and counter parts are not the same inventory.  Not even the same people. 

I've had good luck ordering online with them.  Freight costs are cheaper than Zanottis and price is usually the same or even a bit cheaper sometimes.  If you saw inventory on hand, however, you'll have to call the parts counter.  Internet parts aren't the same people or stock.
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All plans are good and unchanged until the moment they meet the enemy.  Already have an email back advising that the "old" part number is a problem.  Order is currently killed until I run the numbers for the doors to see if they have supercessions or replacements that don't show up directly either (like the inner fairing did).

With a fresh look this morning am more inclined to just paint.  After adding the cost of the painted doors to the painted fairing I can get it done at least a little bit cheaper.  Also won't have to be concerned about precise color matches coming from Harley on three different parts with different histories of not just supercession but actual part number replacement.  Who knows what might have shifted a little bit over the years.

A nice dark red shiny paint job.  That's the ticket. 
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« Reply #45 on: March 13, 2008, 11:40:50 AM »



All plans are good and unchanged until the moment they meet the enemy.  ...

I was kinda worried about that. Are the doors painted? On my SEUC2 the doors are plastic and are plyable, I wouldn't think paint would hold on to that surface well.

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« Reply #46 on: March 13, 2008, 11:45:30 AM »



All plans are good and unchanged until the moment they meet the enemy.  Already have an email back advising that the "old" part number is a problem.  Order is currently killed until I run the numbers for the doors to see if they have supercessions or replacements that don't show up directly either (like the inner fairing did).

With a fresh look this morning am more inclined to just paint.  After adding the cost of the painted doors to the painted fairing I can get it done at least a little bit cheaper.  Also won't have to be concerned about precise color matches coming from Harley on three different parts with different histories of not just supercession but actual part number replacement.  Who knows what might have shifted a little bit over the years.

A nice dark red shiny paint job.  That's the ticket. 


After 44 post you finally take my advice!
Cool beans there Mr. Don.
And picked the right color also.
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After 44 post you finally take my advice!
Cool beans there Mr. Don.
And picked the right color also.
You are coming around to the SERG way of thinking!
Now if we can find AJ one!



Chip, I was always willing to entertain the option that someone might have an idea better than my own.  But that dark red was my strong first choice.  I like the darker reds.  For me that deep dark blood red working so well with the other reds is a big part of what makes this bike so gorgeous.

Am thinking of doing one thing extra though.  Using a slightly lighter shade and having bar and shield emblems ghosted in the middle of the hinged glove box doors.
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« Reply #48 on: March 13, 2008, 11:54:39 AM »

I was kinda worried about that. Are the doors painted? On my SEUC2 the doors are plastic and are plyable, I wouldn't think paint would hold on to that surface well.


Different set of doors AJ.  Our SEEGs and SEUCs have the fake leather looking pliable doors over the storage compartments in the lowers.  The SERG has those too (and the fake leather area surrounding them is a dark dark red). 

The painted doors we're talking about here are the other storage compartment in the inner upper fairing.  Hinged hard plastic lids.  SERGs have four glove boxes instead of just the lower two.
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« Reply #49 on: March 13, 2008, 12:00:26 PM »

Don, Jim (HD-Dude) does business with a company that paints the parts for you.  Once you receive them, you send your old unpainted ones back to them and get your core charge back.  I don't remember the company thought (another senior moment), so You'll have to talk to Jim if you're interested.
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« Reply #50 on: March 13, 2008, 12:17:06 PM »

FWIW

It was and is important to me to be able to have my SERG completely stock if someone ever wanted to pony up 75K to get a completely stock one.  It's not for sale unless you have 75K chingling in your pocket and want my SERG.
That's why I have all the stock pieces and parts and spares either in bubble wrap or on display. No matter how nice and pretty my painted inner fairing is it's not stock so that's why there is a box with a stock SERG inner fairing on the shelf. Customizing our S/E's is fine but please keep the stock parts. Someday the sum of those parts may be more valuable than the bike itself to the right person!

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« Reply #51 on: March 13, 2008, 01:02:20 PM »

FWIW

It was and is important to me to be able to have my SERG completely stock if someone ever wanted to pony up 75K to get a completely stock one.  It's not for sale unless you have 75K chingling in your pocket and want my SERG.
That's why I have all the stock pieces and parts and spares either in bubble wrap or on display. No matter how nice and pretty my painted inner fairing is it's not stock so that's why there is a box with a stock SERG inner fairing on the shelf. Customizing our S/E's is fine but please keep the stock parts. Someday the sum of those parts may be more valuable than the bike itself to the right person!

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This red SERG isn't going to get anything that can't be pretty simply unbolted and changed back should the desire ever be there.  In fact it's not even going to get a lot of even bolt on stuff.  I like the look. 

The ugly bolts will get changed out for shiny on the engine and tranny.  The master cylinder and clutch bracket will get changed from black to chrome.  Not a whole lot else though.  And any parts that come off will get cleaned, stored and saved.  That's for sure.
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« Reply #52 on: March 13, 2008, 01:11:43 PM »

Don, Jim (HD-Dude) does business with a company that paints the parts for you.  Once you receive them, you send your old unpainted ones back to them and get your core charge back.  I don't remember the company thought (another senior moment), so You'll have to talk to Jim if you're interested.

Will look in to the option Ernie.  Thanks.  Won't have a core so would bear any extra cost associated with that.
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« Reply #53 on: March 13, 2008, 01:23:39 PM »

I'd still paint it red.
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OK, now for the voice of reason.......LEAVE IT BLACK!!! ;)

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OK, now for the voice of reason.......LEAVE IT BLACK!!! ;)

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Howard, NO ONE is EVER going to take you OR me for a voice of reason where anything motorcycles is concerned.  So; ptttttttttttttthhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. :huepfenlol2:
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Howard, NO ONE is EVER going to take you OR me for a voice of reason where anything motorcycles is concerned.  So; ptttttttttttttthhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. :huepfenlol2:

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I didn't want to go there, but... :huepfenlol2:

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Dayum!!! I knew I shouldn't have changed my name back. No one's ever gonna believe that now, huh Don! Foiled again!!! :nixweiss: :nixweiss:

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Howard, NO ONE is EVER going to take you OR me for a voice of reason where anything motorcycles is concerned.  So; ptttttttttttttthhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. :huepfenlol2:

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That's right Hoist by your own petard.   :huepfenlol2:

Ok, I admit it, I didn't know what the word petard was so I looked it up:

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–noun 1. an explosive device formerly used in warfare to blow in a door or gate, form a breach in a wall, etc. 
2. a kind of firecracker. 
3. (initial capital letter) Also called Flying Dustbin. a British spigot mortar of World War II that fired a 40-pound (18 kg) finned bomb, designed to destroy pillboxes and other concrete obstacles. 
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Ah shut up detail geek boy :huepfenlol2: :mango: :huepfenlol2: !
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Heh now don't hate me for agreeing w/you. :P :huepfenlol2:

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« Reply #64 on: March 13, 2008, 08:43:14 PM »


That's right Hoist by your own petard.   :huepfenlol2:


Hey  I'm crying plagerism here. I used this one on Howard waaaaaaaaaaaay back when he first showed up on the site.

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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #65 on: March 13, 2008, 08:44:49 PM »

The voices in my head have reached a concensus.  The inner fairing's paint will be a dark red to match the primary color on the outer.  That color will be on the inner and the hinged compartment doors.  Centered vertically and horizontally on the doors will be an airbrushed ghosted bar and shield emblem.  About 2.25" wide and done in the middle shade of read.  Same ghosting effect and same color will put another subtle bar and shield about 1.25" wide centered over the radio in the "lip" section you can see from the saddle.
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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #66 on: March 13, 2008, 08:45:17 PM »


Hey  I'm crying plagerism here. I used this one on Howard waaaaaaaaaaaay back when he first showed up on the site.

You owe me royalties Mr. Twolanerider

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He's right! i knew that sounded familiar!!! ;D

I think it was even a thread subject, no? :confused5:

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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #67 on: March 13, 2008, 08:45:59 PM »


Hey  I'm crying plagerism here. I used this one on Howard waaaaaaaaaaaay back when he first showed up on the site.

You owe me royalties Mr. Twolanerider

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We both better hope some Royal poobah from Her Majesty's Navy doesn't read this or we're both screwed :huepfenlol2: .
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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #68 on: March 13, 2008, 08:46:16 PM »

The voices in my head have reached a concensus.  The inner fairing's paint will be a dark red to match the primary color on the outer.  That color will be on the inner and the hinged compartment doors.  Centered vertically and horizontally on the doors will be an airbrushed ghosted bar and shield emblem.  About 2.25" wide and done in the middle shade of read.  Same ghosting effect and same color will put another subtle bar and shield about 1.25" wide centered over the radio in the "lip" section you can see from the saddle.

In other words.......BLACK? :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :P

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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #69 on: March 13, 2008, 08:47:42 PM »

He's right! i knew that sounded familiar!!! ;D

I think it was even a thread subject, no? :confused5:

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We did.  It was.  And look who did it ::) ?

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=9504.0
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« Reply #70 on: March 13, 2008, 08:47:58 PM »

We both better hope some Royal poobah from Her Majesty's Navy doesn't read this or we're both screwed :huepfenlol2: .

Oh chit, I keep forgetting you can quote more sources than me.

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did you major in bibliography or something in college ???


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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #71 on: March 13, 2008, 08:50:15 PM »

In other words.......BLACK? :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :P

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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #72 on: March 13, 2008, 08:51:04 PM »

Oh chit, I keep forgetting you can quote more sources than me.

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did you major in bibliography or something in college ???


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Simple bro.  I wear ear plugs when I read so chit don't leak out.
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« Reply #73 on: March 13, 2008, 08:55:36 PM »

We did.  It was.  And look who did it ::) ?

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=9504.0

Hehe!! :2vrolijk_21:

I knew i heard it before! ;)

And did you see the poll results. The first 2 choices made up 70%! I voted for "Makes it all the way thru the 2 year w.....ty!" ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D




Good pic. The boys show nice form! ???

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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #74 on: March 14, 2008, 09:44:30 PM »

The voices in my head have reached a concensus.  The inner fairing's paint will be a dark red to match the primary color on the outer.  That color will be on the inner and the hinged compartment doors.  Centered vertically and horizontally on the doors will be an airbrushed ghosted bar and shield emblem.  About 2.25" wide and done in the middle shade of read.  Same ghosting effect and same color will put another subtle bar and shield about 1.25" wide centered over the radio in the "lip" section you can see from the saddle.


Good decision!

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« Reply #75 on: March 14, 2008, 11:12:55 PM »


Good decision!

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Thanks.  I think so too.  Should look pretty darned good once it gets all done.
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« Reply #76 on: July 28, 2008, 09:18:37 PM »


Thanks.  I think so too.  Should look pretty darned good once it gets all done.

Don did you ever finish the painted inner :nixweiss:

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« Reply #77 on: July 29, 2008, 12:34:29 AM »

Don did you ever finish the painted inner :nixweiss:

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Brian, no I haven't.  I have the primered original here and will likely take it to a painter not too far away that Travis discovered when he got his bags and tour pak done.  I even know exactly what I'm going to do with it. 

Midnight red to match the predominant color on the outer fairing and top of the tank, dash and nacelle.  Will add small bar and shields centered in each inner fairing storage door done in tudor red (that's the lighter red of the three on the bike).  And on the open area above the radio and seen through the windshield will add a third eagle to go along with the two on the outer fairing.  It'll be predominantly tudor red and then ghosted out with the luxury rich red which is the intermediate red color on the bike.

I did score a correct inner to replace the black one inner that was on the bike.  But it's not a red that matches any of the three colors.  It's not even a gloss color.  It's a flat red that you honestly might not recognize was red if you didn't realize what you were looking for.

That's what is on the bike now.  I like having it better than the flat black one that looked to have been there since it was new.  The truly painted to match will be a winter project though.  I think it'll be sharp when it's done though.
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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #78 on: July 29, 2008, 09:39:17 AM »

Brian, no I haven't.  I have the primered original here and will likely take it to a painter not too far away that Travis discovered when he got his bags and tour pak done.  I even know exactly what I'm going to do with it. 

Midnight red to match the predominant color on the outer fairing and top of the tank, dash and nacelle.  Will add small bar and shields centered in each inner fairing storage door done in tudor red (that's the lighter red of the three on the bike).  And on the open area above the radio and seen through the windshield will add a third eagle to go along with the two on the outer fairing.  It'll be predominantly tudor red and then ghosted out with the luxury rich red which is the intermediate red color on the bike.

I did score a correct inner to replace the black one inner that was on the bike.  But it's not a red that matches any of the three colors.  It's not even a gloss color.  It's a flat red that you honestly might not recognize was red if you didn't realize what you were looking for.

That's what is on the bike now.  I like having it better than the flat black one that looked to have been there since it was new.  The truly painted to match will be a winter project though.  I think it'll be sharp when it's done though.

Have you got any red leather leftover from your new seat??   :huepfenlol2:  Endless possibilities!   :2vrolijk_21:
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« Reply #79 on: July 29, 2008, 12:40:38 PM »

Have you got any red leather leftover from your new seat??   :huepfenlol2:  Endless possibilities!   :2vrolijk_21:


Only some of the candy red vinyl left over from recovering the tour pak side covers.  Though (laugh all you want) I've thought about the burgundy leather for the pockets in the lowers ??? .

Won't do it though.  They're a red leather-ish material to begin with.  Actually don't look bad when they're on the bike and cleaned and dressed.
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« Reply #80 on: July 29, 2008, 07:55:27 PM »


Only some of the candy red vinyl left over from recovering the tour pak side covers.  Though (laugh all you want) I've thought about the burgundy leather for the pockets in the lowers ??? .

Won't do it though.  They're a red leather-ish material to begin with.  Actually don't look bad when they're on the bike and cleaned and dressed.
Pete (pj57) covered the black part of the lowers on his SEEG and fashioned a matching material for the 'doors' and it looked really good.  He said that he just pulled the leather very tight and put it back together.  So he had leather covered where that black plastic part of the lowers was.
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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #81 on: August 01, 2008, 02:02:09 PM »

Not promising to pay heed to any particular bit of advice but willing to listen to and consider all of it.  Sometime this spring/summer will be getting an inner fairing painted for the red SERG.  The bike is three shades of red and just want to make sure I'm considering any good options even if I didn't think of them myself.

The three reds don't exist on all the tins.  Rear fender and tour pak are this middle red.  Pretty sure this is standard Harley "Luxury Rich Red."

If it were me I'd paint the whole bike grey and black, but that's just me, no bias here.

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« Reply #82 on: August 03, 2008, 11:03:40 PM »

If it were me I'd paint the whole bike grey and black, but that's just me, no bias here.

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The black and grey is my strong #2 choice for the first generation SERGs.  So if it could not be triple red it would be black and grey.  Love that photo too.
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« Reply #83 on: August 04, 2008, 12:07:18 PM »

The black and grey is my strong #2 choice for the first generation SERGs.  So if it could not be triple red it would be black and grey.  Love that photo too.

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I think you need to take Ben's advice and paint yours black/grey.  Look at the size of his windshield and then the size of Ben.  He's one big sonoun not to be dealt with.    :)
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« Reply #84 on: August 04, 2008, 12:11:30 PM »

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I think you need to take Ben's advice and paint yours black/grey.  Look at the size of his windshield and then the size of Ben.  He's one big sonoun not to be dealt with.    :)

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« Reply #85 on: August 04, 2008, 12:52:00 PM »

It's ok Bob.  He can't swing low enough to hurt me!

That's what a heel stomp is for... :carrot:
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That's what a heel stomp is for... :carrot:


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Never did finish my country line dancing class...  ???
Now, THAT'S a good winter project.  :D har!  spyder
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« Reply #88 on: August 07, 2008, 06:26:45 AM »


Never did finish my country line dancing class...  ???

Not quite the heel stomp I was referring to - but if country line dancing makes you happy go for it!

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Not quite the heel stomp I was referring to - but if country line dancing makes you happy go for it!

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« Reply #90 on: August 07, 2008, 09:01:22 PM »

Y'know what Sean, it's sad actually.  I am such a white boy without rhythm that the heel stomp you referred to or the one from a line dance could be equally as hazardous.  It's just that in the line dance there is some way it'd be self inflicted.

fair 'nuff...  Rhythm is not a strong point of mine, but add 6'6" and 250 to the mix.

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« Reply #91 on: August 08, 2008, 12:26:12 AM »

fair 'nuff...  Rhythm is not a strong point of mine, but add 6'6" and 250 to the mix.

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« Reply #92 on: August 08, 2008, 07:04:47 PM »

So I skimmed thru "most" of this topic..... did the damn thing ever get painted or not?? :P
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« Reply #93 on: August 08, 2008, 08:02:33 PM »

So I skimmed thru "most" of this topic..... did the damn thing ever get painted or not?? :P

did what get painted?   ???
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« Reply #94 on: August 08, 2008, 08:21:04 PM »

did what get painted?   ???

You are kidding right???   :P

Not promising to pay heed to any particular bit of advice but willing to listen to and consider all of it.  Sometime this spring/summer will be getting an inner fairing painted for the red SERG.  The bike is three shades of red and just want to make sure I'm considering any good options even if I didn't think of them myself.

The three reds don't exist on all the tins.  Rear fender and tour pak are this middle red.  Pretty sure this is standard Harley "Luxury Rich Red."
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« Reply #95 on: August 08, 2008, 08:51:15 PM »

You are kidding right???   :P


The carrot made him say it. :carrot:
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« Reply #96 on: August 08, 2008, 09:19:32 PM »

You are kidding right???   :P


yeah, did the same to AJ with his Secret Boiled Peanut recipe - he wasn't supposed to tell anyone...so I responded "Tell Us What"...

he didn't get it.  :mango:

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« Reply #97 on: August 09, 2008, 12:45:59 PM »

What bread maker?  Where the F is it?    :carrot:
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« Reply #98 on: August 09, 2008, 01:57:12 PM »

did what get painted?   ???

ahhhh.........okay, I get it!! ??? :P
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« Reply #99 on: August 09, 2008, 05:35:40 PM »

So I skimmed thru "most" of this topic..... did the damn thing ever get painted or not?? :P

 :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:  Not yet.

Know exactly what I'm going to do with it.  But will be a project for later in the year.
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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #100 on: October 08, 2008, 02:59:28 PM »

In the ever changing landscape that is the my mind, I'm always looking at different ideas for my ride or rides as it may be. I notice in this year's P&A Catalogue, H-D has paint to match inner fairings for Road Glides. My Mirage Orange Pearl is available for what seems actually a reasonable price provided Jenni can get one for me at her usual discount.
    Has anyone ever done an inner fairing swap on a Road Glide ? If so, how tough was it on a scale of 1 - 10 ?  LD is lookin really rad these days with the KW shield and the TP stripped off. I've got some flashy new Brembo calipers on the way, a brand new front wheel waitin to be put on and the paint matched inner fairing would be the balls. Somebody let me know ok ?

Thanks !

B B
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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #101 on: October 08, 2008, 03:13:47 PM »

The carrot made him say it. :carrot:


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Re: Inner Fairing Advice and Counsel
« Reply #102 on: October 09, 2008, 02:26:17 PM »

In the ever changing landscape that is the my mind, I'm always looking at different ideas for my ride or rides as it may be. I notice in this year's P&A Catalogue, H-D has paint to match inner fairings for Road Glides. My Mirage Orange Pearl is available for what seems actually a reasonable price provided Jenni can get one for me at her usual discount.
    Has anyone ever done an inner fairing swap on a Road Glide ? If so, how tough was it on a scale of 1 - 10 ?  LD is lookin really rad these days with the KW shield and the TP stripped off. I've got some flashy new Brembo calipers on the way, a brand new front wheel waitin to be put on and the paint matched inner fairing would be the balls. Somebody let me know ok ?

Thanks !

B B


R&R'd the inner on the red one once already Brian.  Really not too bad.  If memory serves was just under three hours total.  And that was the first time I'd done one.  Would MUCH rather do it on a Road Glide than an Electra Glide.  Much less cramped.
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