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Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« on: August 06, 2008, 10:12:17 AM »

I currently have a Screaming Eagle Road King and am thinking of selling it to a buddy and buying the 09 Screaming Eagle Road Glide.  With the RK, cross winds, head winds and swirling winds dont seem to bother it much at all.  I previously had a BMW K12 and that thing got move everywhere, particularly when you were in the desert or on the coast highways and hit any side angle winds.

So to you riders that have the Road Glides - how do they handle the side angle winds?  Do you get much buffeting or movement.   Would really appreciate any comments (particularly from those who have ridden both the RK and the RGs)

thanks in advance
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2008, 12:55:10 PM »

You do catch wind probably a little more than the RK but this bike is very stable in the wind.  You will feel some chassis buffet but will not feel it in the steering.  I've been in the Palm Springs area of So Cal and winds there are very high on a continuous basis.  They have the wind power mills and we just ride along at a 30 degree angle!!!!
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2008, 02:13:11 PM »

Not expert by any means but my brief experience on the RG is that it is much more stable in wind, cross or head on, than my SEEG. I credit the frame mount fairing.
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2008, 11:05:03 PM »

their is wind?     :confused5:
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2008, 07:20:41 PM »

Help is right.... I just test drove the RG in  Sturgis and the wind turbulence is terrible.   I could not believe how bad it was....Will definitely need to replace the black wind deflector with a much higher wind shield....

Any ideas??   
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2008, 07:58:20 PM »

Help is right.... I just test drove the RG in  Sturgis and the wind turbulence is terrible.   I could not believe how bad it was....Will definitely need to replace the black wind deflector with a much higher wind shield....

Any ideas??   

Wind turbulence from that short shield on the 09's has nothing to do with what you will feel when you get the right height on there. My advice would be the keep it simple and least expensive to start with. My 2007 RG with a 13" shield is the smoothest riding bike i have ever owned. No wind buffeting for me.
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2008, 09:19:50 PM »

add the "clearview" windshield its a HUGE improvment.. I already ordered mine for the 09 scrg I have comming.
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2008, 10:46:00 PM »

lowers make the bike for me. i ordered some...  :orange:





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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2008, 02:01:17 AM »

I've had the RG and the SEEG for direct comparison only this spring and summer.  Sometimes had them both out on the same windy days because I was curious about the comparison.

It's not that either bike is immune to wind.  They obviously both feel it.  Whether it be crosswinds on the highway or turbulence while passing semis.

In my limited experience with both bikes this year the difference is in how they react.  The wind hitting the Electra Glide shakes the bike.  It also shakes the front wheel; separately.   The wind striking the fairing moves the bars and wheels.  Sometimes the reaction there is slightly different than is the reaction at the rear of the bike.  It can even occasionally lead to a slight increase in the pucker factor when tucked between a couple of semis in the just the right (wrong) place.  It's not bad.  You get used to it.  But it can feel squirrely.

The RG, however, has only one reaction to whatever the wind might be.  It's not that turbulence or cross winds aren't felt.  The RG seems a bit more predicatable though.  And just generally feels a bit more stable in those conditions.
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2008, 10:57:56 AM »

Wind turbulence from that short shield on the 09's has nothing to do with what you will feel when you get the right height on there. My advice would be the keep it simple and least expensive to start with. My 2007 RG with a 13" shield is the smoothest riding bike i have ever owned. No wind buffeting for me.


Thanks for the advice.   Has anyone tried the Kuryakan deflector / shield?   
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2008, 11:12:53 AM »

DITTO  on the thanks for the advice.   Have pretty much made up my mind to let the SERK go (what a great bike) and get the SERG.

I appreciate the input.
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2008, 11:13:12 AM »

 They have the wind power mills and we just ride along at a 30 degree angle!!!!


...and rain grooves at the windmills !!  I've seen soft tails with those skinny 21's pull off the freeway there cause it sikes em out so much. You just have to ride it out and let those two big gyroscopes your sitting on get you through, but if you had a choice of bikes in that situation the RG wins hands down.  Doc
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2008, 11:26:35 AM »

add the "clearview" windshield its a HUGE improvment.. I already ordered mine for the 09 scrg I have comming.

Which clear view did you order???  Photo?
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2008, 12:09:32 PM »

I am going to be watching to see what every one is replacing the wind deflector with on the 09 SERG.

I have a five months or so to decide before I get mine
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2008, 10:34:51 PM »

Lots of debate on this issue.....
this is bad enough  to go with the Ultra or not buy.  The wind turbulence on the 09 SERG is terrible.. The question is what do you use to stop it but not loose the looks?   
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2008, 10:42:13 PM »

Lots of debate on this issue.....
this is bad enough  to go with the Ultra or not buy.  The wind turbulence on the 09 SERG is terrible.. The question is what do you use to stop it but not loose the looks?   


The Clearview shield solved the noise and turbulence problem on mine.  Smooth ride behind the fairing now.  And it's not a bad looking shield.
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2008, 10:50:18 PM »

Lots of debate on this issue.....
this is bad enough  to go with the Ultra or not buy.  The wind turbulence on the 09 SERG is terrible.. The question is what do you use to stop it but not loose the looks?   

I don't wear one myself but I think a fullface would solve your problem...
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2008, 10:19:41 AM »

The Clearview shield solved the noise and turbulence problem on mine.  Smooth ride behind the fairing now.  And it's not a bad looking shield.


TwoLaneBluesRider, 
Good advice.   
Which Clearview do you recommend
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2008, 12:29:58 PM »


TwoLaneBluesRider, 
Good advice.   
Which Clearview do you recommend


I'm between 5'9" and 5'10".  With the stock seat a 12" windshield.  With the higher Corbin seat a 14". 
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2008, 04:07:38 PM »

I have a 2" over Clearview on my current RG (and love it!).  I just received a Klock Werks 12" for the SERG (that will be here next week... :bananarock:  ).  So we will see.
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2008, 05:50:06 PM »

I have a 2" over Clearview on my current RG (and love it!).  I just received a Klock Werks 12" for the SERG (that will be here next week... :bananarock:  ).  So we will see.
Let me know how the Klock Werks 12" works I have heard mixed reviews. 
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2008, 11:54:24 PM »

I went through 3 shields on my 06 RG. Ended up with the Klock Werks shield.
Puts down force on the front end and not so turbulent at speed.
Full Face helmet solves the problem on road trips. Article in Aug Thunderpress. I have deposits on three 09 SERG's around bay area no VIN yet. Damnit how the hell did you guys get yours already?
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2008, 09:21:52 AM »

I went through 3 shields on my 06 RG. Ended up with the Klock Werks shield.
Puts down force on the front end and not so turbulent at speed.
Full Face helmet solves the problem on road trips. Article in Aug Thunderpress. I have deposits on three 09 SERG's around bay area no VIN yet. Damnit how the hell did you guys get yours already?

I am in the same position you are... :-[
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2008, 03:09:38 PM »

The Road Glide handles the wind smoother as the windshield is attached to the frame vs. the forks. This setup reduces any wind buffering compared to the Road King.
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2008, 07:13:17 AM »

Well, finally got my SERG and put the KW windshield on.  Have not taken it above 50 but today I will.  The windshield works better than stock but has issues with vibration at lower RPM ( just like a stock RG shield).  That might drive me nuts!  Forgot all about that after having the Clearview on my other RG.  Did not notice any difference in air turbulance or noise around the ears (yet).
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2008, 09:21:33 AM »

Well, finally got my SERG and put the KW windshield on.  Have not taken it above 50 but today I will.  The windshield works better than stock but has issues with vibration at lower RPM ( just like a stock RG shield).  That might drive me nuts!  Forgot all about that after having the Clearview on my other RG.  Did not notice any difference in air turbulance or noise around the ears (yet).

Thanks for the update/feedback
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #26 on: September 07, 2008, 01:34:09 PM »


Brought a new Silver SERG home last eve from Wild West HD (Great People)! As I live in the Texas Panhandle the wind seems to always blow. The 2 1/2 hour ride coming North on US27 was a thrill. The new Ride and 14" screen seemed very stable and I noticed little if any unexpected movement as a results of the wind. The frame mounted fairing seemed to cut right through it. The bike seemed glued to the road. Other vehicles passing or being passed posed no problem.

With exception of the seat, I loved the ride with 10psi in the shocks.

The seat didn't work for me. I was "burned out" with it by the time I got home. I have always rode Corbins and will likely order one. Please PM me, if anyone knows wether or not the standard Street Glide seat will fit the 09 SERG, Thanks!

I purchased a 14" half moon windscreen from Clark's Custom Windshield $54.00. The dealer installed it and the fir was perfect. I am 5'10", and the wind was 2-3" over my head. None in the face. There is wind noise but not overwhelming. What a deal on a screen! My thanks to the Clarks!

Robin and Pat
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Will post pictures ASAP!

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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #27 on: September 07, 2008, 01:38:19 PM »

Brought a new Silver SERG home last eve from Wild West HD (Great People)! As I live in the Texas Panhandle the wind seems to always blow. The 2 1/2 hour ride coming North on US27 was a thrill. The new Ride and 14" screen seemed very stable and I noticed little if any unexpected movement as a results of the wind. The frame mounted fairing seemed to cut right through it. The bike seemed glued to the road. Other vehicles passing or being passed posed no problem.

With exception of the seat, I loved the ride with 10psi in the shocks.

The seat didn't work for me. I was "burned out" with it by the time I got home. I have always rode Corbins and will likely order one. Please PM me, if anyone knows wether or not the standard Street Glide seat will fit the 09 SERG, Thanks!

I purchased a 14" half moon windscreen from Clark's Custom Windshield $54.00. The dealer installed it and the fir was perfect. I am 5'10", and the wind was 2-3" over my head. None in the face. There is wind noise but not overwhelming. What a deal on a screen! My thanks to the Clarks!

Robin and Pat
Clark's Custom Windshields
803 755-2906

Will post pictures ASAP!

Iglide :-)


thanks can't wait to see the photos
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #28 on: September 07, 2008, 09:08:45 PM »

Love the BarBQ at Rudy's. Rode the new SERG over with the wife got this pic on the way out. Shows the shield I mentioned earlier.


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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #29 on: September 07, 2008, 09:12:27 PM »

Love the BarBQ at Rudy's. Rode the new SERG over with the wife got this pic on the way out. Shows the shield I mentioned earlier.




That thing is gorgeous man! Enjoy it. That shield goes perfectly with it. :2vrolijk_21:

If anything was gonna get me behind a fairing it would be this bike! But it won't! ::) ;)

Best of luck with her! :drink:

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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #30 on: September 07, 2008, 09:19:45 PM »



If anything was gonna get me behind a fairing it would be this bike! But it won't! ::) ;)
Hoist! 8)

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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #31 on: September 07, 2008, 09:46:09 PM »

I've rode a lot of miles on 1800cc class bikes. The first I made 1 week without a shield. Couldn't take that. This is the first bike I have rode with a fairing. In the past wouldn't touch one.... well until now. What's was that ol saying? Try it once and you never go ..... can't remember. So, Hoist, I hear ya!

Anywho, I'm into the way this fairing / frame combination sticks the road. I will cut some local canyons solo next weekend weather permitting, then I will now what I've got. Not quiet sure right now... It is a big heavy bike!

About the noise, I have never gotten around it, but what do I know? As, I want the fidelity, there has always been too much noise with any shield I have ever tried for a open stereo system above say 50MPH. Possibly, there is a solution out there, if so please let me know.

I will use the on-board stereo for running around town and slow cruising. But for the road and higher speeds I have found the Isolator 6i earphones and an in pocket 2G Ipod hard to beat. All your favorite tunes.... all you want.... and in-ear phones that blocks out all noise, except.... well..... your favorite tunes. Peace and serenity brother...

Just my 2 cents, and I'm not sure I've got that after this purchase  8)
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2008, 01:34:43 PM »

Here is my experience with a Road Glide and wind buffeting. I bought the bike just after the 09s were at the dealer. When I rode it home I was totally happy, except for the head buffeting, which I expected due to the way the sharknose fairing is designed. In order to really get a hold of where the wind was coming from I cut some thin plastic strips about 20 inches long and tied them to the top of the crash bars on both sides. These strips are the same material that you see tied to the front of air conditioners in the stores to show you how much air the machines blow out, you know the ones.
Out on the highway it was very apparent what was happening. If if keep my knees up against the sides of the tank, there was much, much less wind coming up from below. Spreading the knees, if only for a second and the wind was tremendous. I ride with my knees tucked into the tank anyway, so that was not a problem. But, that did tell me where the wind was coming from. From zero speed up to about 40 mph the plastic strips I tied on didn't really show much of a pattern. Once I got past 40 mph and faster it was very apparent what was happening. The sharknose fairing on Road Glides is pretty long and as such it moves a lot of air from the front of the motorcycle and re-directs it along the sides of the motorcycle about where your knees start. This is exactly what a fairing is supposed to do. The problem from that perspective is that the resulting rush of wind will rise up and come up the chest area. This will confuse the bejesus out of you because you were probably thinking that you were getting all of the head buffeting because the windshield was not doing it's think. Actually, the problem involves both the height of the windshield and the turbulence coming up from the bottom of the fairing which rises up the faster you go.

If you are commited to stopping the vast majority of the head buffeting, I would suggest getting a taller windshield. I have talked to lots of riders and some of are the mistaken belief that the wind buffeting will stop if they switch to a lower windshield. Not so. If you want relief you must channel the air over the top of your helmet or head.
My next step was to install a taller windshield. The stock windshield was 12 1/2 tall, measured from the HD logo on top of the speedometer. I ordered one of the recurved windshields you see advertised which was two inches taller than the stock version. This single addition removed the vast majority of wind which was buffeting my head. An added plus was the fact that the stereo and exhaust note are both enjoyable.
If you are still wanting to eliminate all of the wind that is coming up from the bottom you will have to install some sort of lower wind device on the crash bars which will redirect the air. You can buy them from any Harley dealer. The fiberglass lower fairing are about $500.00 for the pair and the much cheaper leather or naugahyde ones are about $50.00 or so. The higher priced ones are the ones you see on ultra classics. I believe they are stock on that version. The higher priced ones have little shield built into them which allow you to pinch off all the air or just some of it. If you ride in a cold climate, you are probably alright with those. However if you are a year around rider in a warm climate, you run the risk of cutting off too much air to the cylinder jugs and running hot. You will just have to decide. I noticed that Harley suggests not running the soft lowers when the ambient air temperature is above 50 degrees, as it cuts off too much air from the air cooled engine.
In the end a taller windshield will probably solve most everyones problem with head buffeting on a Road Glide. But if you want to eliminate all the wind, add a pair of lowers.
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #33 on: October 21, 2008, 08:01:43 PM »

I previously owned a 1999 RG and installed lower fairings for cold weather riding.  I cannot recall how the lowers influenced wind turbulance around the head, but as other's have mentioned in other threads, when the temps get over mid-70s, the increased engine heat felt by the rider is significant.  Additionally, I have not seen vented fairing lowers for the RG yet. H-D only offers the vented lowers for the ElectraGlide models.
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Re: Wind effect to Road Glide -- HELP
« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2008, 11:39:59 PM »

I recently rode my 2009 FLTRG3 from the southern Arizona border up to central California right as the tropical storm was passing thru Mexico, this one caused very strong winds for the entire tour.
I have made that trip on other bikes with fork mounted shields and the difference is night and day!
When you are discussing winds that are of more than your normal 10- 25 mph variety, you will allways feel the bike and your body move,
But I have to agree with the previous post, The RG IS PREDICTABLE and you do not feel it in the steering what so ever which is where you are as the rider are going to feel it.
Lots of riders try to combat the wind with bigger shields on fork mounted bikes and when they get into strong winds, (as you will on a true touring ride) they find the taller shield acts as a sail on a boat in that it catches more wind that makes the rider have to struggle and be tense for that next gust. this has been very uncomfortable for me in the past on other bikes.
This last ride confirmed what I believed to be true before I bought this new glide, WHEN IT COMES TO THE WIND THE ROADGLIDE IS THE BEST HD OFFERS PERIOD!
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