Topic: maybe clear up the KW windshield (Read 10401 times)

wts · « **on:** December 05, 2008, 04:23:54 PM »

just some info I discovered on the way to other things ...

K W change their 12 inch windshield around august-september ... if your roadglide windshield
is older than that, sitting on a table it would be 9.75 inches tall measured straight up ...
if it is newer than that, they changed the angle slightly and it would measure 11.5 inches

that maybe be why some think it's too short while others are okay with it ...
bought mine in august and just reorder the new one ... wil post my opinion on
the difference when it arrives

wts

Highjagger · « **Reply #1 on:** December 05, 2008, 04:50:27 PM »

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How is it possible ??
A " 12 inch " named shield is 9.75 inch and now 11.5 . Why not 12

Confusing world

Like everywhere .

Puzzled · « **Reply #2 on:** December 05, 2008, 04:56:14 PM »

Quote from: Highjagger on December 05, 2008, 04:50:27 PM

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How is it possible ??
A " 12 inch " named shield is 9.75 inch and now 11.5 . Why not 12 Confusing world Like everywhere .

KW was measuring the actual windshield material from top to bottom (which is at an angle) not the actual rise in height.

I'd be curious if my radio would clear the new version.

Puzzled · « **Reply #3 on:** December 05, 2008, 04:58:36 PM »

Quote from: wts on December 05, 2008, 04:23:54 PM

just some info I discovered on the way to other things ...

K W change their 12 inch windshield around august-september ... if your roadglide windshield
is older than that, sitting on a table it would be 9.75 inches tall measured straight up ...
if it is newer than that, they changed the angle slightly and it would measure 11.5 inches

wts

Where did or how did you come up with the change info?

wts · « **Reply #4 on:** December 05, 2008, 08:08:17 PM »

I called KW to inquire about their 16 inch windshield that is coming "soon"

I told them mine seemed about an inch or two short based on the fact that I also have a Clearview GT small ...

the man I talked to ask when I bought it and that was in August ... he said since then they had changed

the angle slightly and told me how to measure to make sure which one I had ...

ordered the new one

thx
wts

Puzzled · « **Reply #5 on:** December 05, 2008, 08:20:19 PM »

Ahhh right from the source. I'll have to give them a call in the beginning of the week and inquire about the new curve.

dartman · « **Reply #6 on:** December 05, 2008, 10:55:33 PM »

I tried the latest version, buffeting at 70 mph felt like it could remove paint from my helmet, they are designed to hold the front end down at high speeds not wind protection.

LarryB · « **Reply #7 on:** December 06, 2008, 05:42:12 AM »

"they are designed to hold the front end down at high speeds not wind protection."

Well they haven't proved to be doing that well. my front end keeps wanting to come off the ground, oh but that's my fault, can't blame it on the windshield.

Since I installed my new Corbin the buffeting is minimal

Highjagger · « **Reply #8 on:** December 06, 2008, 07:06:58 AM »

Hey , what do you mean by " buffeting ? I can`t find a translation , Heeeeelp !

dartman · « **Reply #9 on:** December 06, 2008, 10:56:56 AM »

http://faq.f650.com/FAQs/Buffeting.htm

rasmusmi · « **Reply #10 on:** December 06, 2008, 11:03:31 AM »

Is the stock windscreen that comes on the bike really that bad in the wind? If so, why would Harley waste their time putting it on there? I like the looks of the 12" tinted KW much better than the stock shield, but I don't want to waste my money on a KW "just for looks only" if it won't help that much to deflect wind (I'm 6' tall, always wear a helmet and would prefer air to flow just over my head on longer trips). Thanks for all input. My O/B SERG is scheduled for delivery in late March, and I can't wait!!!

dartman · « **Reply #11 on:** December 06, 2008, 12:05:24 PM »

The Stock SERG windshield is for aesthetics only, it is absolutely worthless for wind protection, the Klockwerks 12in is only slightly better, The Clearview recurve is far superior, even a stock 12 in RG windscreen does a much better job.

wts · « **Reply #12 on:** December 06, 2008, 03:38:20 PM »

I've got both the Clearview 12" GT small and the KW 12" ... I see little difference
except in appearence

wts

Highjagger · « **Reply #13 on:** December 06, 2008, 05:31:51 PM »

Quote from: wts on December 06, 2008, 03:38:20 PM

I've got both the Clearview 12" GT small and the KW 12" ... I see little difference
except in appearence

wts

Then tell us , which is better for what purpose ,
If you had to decide which should be THE only one , which would you choose ?

wts · « **Reply #14 on:** December 06, 2008, 08:11:51 PM »

K W

rasmusmi · « **Reply #15 on:** December 06, 2008, 09:19:47 PM »

Quote from: wts on December 06, 2008, 08:11:51 PM

K W

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LETS_ROLL · « **Reply #16 on:** December 07, 2008, 12:23:31 AM »

Quote from: Roadking on December 06, 2008, 11:03:31 AM

Is the stock windscreen that comes on the bike really that bad in the wind? If so, why would Harley waste their time putting it on there? I like the looks of the 12" tinted KW much better than the stock shield, but I don't want to waste my money on a KW "just for looks only" if it won't help that much to deflect wind (I'm 6' tall, always wear a helmet and would prefer air to flow just over my head on longer trips). Thanks for all input. My O/B SERG is scheduled for delivery in late March, and I can't wait!!!

Just like dartman said, worthless is right. At 6 feet tall the wind is going to go, right up your nose. The windshield and the oil cooler hoses Harley got an F on this one. Let's Roll

wts · « **Reply #17 on:** December 07, 2008, 07:18:30 AM »

has anyone found a kit or anyway to reroute the oil cooler hoses?
wts

Highjagger · « **Reply #18 on:** December 07, 2008, 07:48:40 AM »

Did the Moco not improved this in the meanwhile ?
This would be the best I guess .
The owners of the SERGs should complain directly at the h-d headquarters , perhaps they react on such kind of complains ?

LarryB · « **Reply #19 on:** December 07, 2008, 08:10:51 AM »

Ya right, dream on

Highjagger · « **Reply #20 on:** December 07, 2008, 11:06:02 AM »

Just a wish for christmas

LETS_ROLL · « **Reply #21 on:** December 07, 2008, 12:09:53 PM »

Quote from: Highjagger on December 07, 2008, 07:48:40 AM

Did the Moco not improved this in the meanwhile ?
This would be the best I guess .
The owners of the SERGs should complain directly at the h-d headquarters , perhaps they react on such kind of complains ?

Yeah, they're going to react.. Next year in the new model. Let's Roll

SPIDERMAN · « **Reply #22 on:** December 07, 2008, 12:12:31 PM »

Quote from: wts on December 07, 2008, 07:18:30 AM

has anyone found a kit or anyway to reroute the oil cooler hoses?
wts

It wouldn't be that much effort to buy either regular neoprene oil line or braided stainless and re-route these yourself. Even thing you'd need is readily available. And if you end up with lines that are several inches longer than stock- - - - - - - well extra oil in your system is always a good thing.

B B

wts · « **Reply #23 on:** December 29, 2008, 10:41:18 AM »

Quote from: wts on December 05, 2008, 08:08:17 PM

I called KW to inquire about their 16 inch windshield that is coming "soon"

I told them mine seemed about an inch or two short based on the fact that I also have a Clearview GT small ...

the man I talked to ask when I bought it and that was in August ... he said since then they had changed

the angle slightly and told me how to measure to make sure which one I had ...

ordered the new one

thx
wts

I am posting pictures of the old 12 inch klock werks and then the new kw 12 inch

wts · « **Reply #24 on:** December 29, 2008, 10:43:14 AM »

and the new

wts · « **Reply #25 on:** December 29, 2008, 10:44:32 AM »

the old

wts · « **Reply #26 on:** December 29, 2008, 10:45:31 AM »

and the new

wts · « **Reply #27 on:** December 29, 2008, 10:49:42 AM »

as you can see the angle changes ever so slightly ... and you pick up an inch or so in height

I'm 5'10" ( both tall and wide ) and the klock werks works for me

I just rode from Key Largo to Key West last week with a baseball cap on, bill facing forward

if you're 1/2 inch taller it might not stay on

thx
wts

Puzzled · « **Reply #28 on:** December 29, 2008, 10:56:16 AM »

WTS is your flip up screen hitting the widshield? Mine did on the old 12" and that is why I didn't run it.

wts · « **Reply #29 on:** December 29, 2008, 03:22:58 PM »

with the old 12 it touched only coming out and going in ... I could pull on the top of the screen
and it worked without touching ... didn't touch while running

with the new 12 it doesn't touch at all ... has 1/2 inch behind it or more

thx
wts

LETS_ROLL · « **Reply #30 on:** December 29, 2008, 04:44:32 PM »

Quote from: wts on December 29, 2008, 10:49:42 AM

as you can see the angle changes ever so slightly ... and you pick up an inch or so in height

I'm 5'10" ( both tall and wide ) and the klock werks works for me

I just rode from Key Largo to Key West last week with a baseball cap on, bill facing forward

if you're 1/2 inch taller it might not stay on

thx
wts

WTS, thanks for the info. and pictures.
Did you find the new one more sturdy than the older one. I have heard complaints about flapping in the wind, vibration etc./

wts · « **Reply #31 on:** December 29, 2008, 05:02:28 PM »

I just got back from Key West ... rode about 2200 - 2300 miles

if it flapped I didn't notice it ... and I rode at about every speed at one time
or another

I look about an inch over the shield, but honestly wasn't watching for movement
so I couldn't say it didn't

by the way, this is my first Roadglide ... last year I rode my SEEG so I really
don't know how to compare

sorry to be so wordy ... but if you ask me what time it is I'll tell you how to
build a watch

thx
wts

wts · « **Reply #32 on:** December 29, 2008, 05:07:46 PM »

P.S. not trying to be a smart donkey ... but when I pass about sixty
I watch the rode a lot closer

lotta potential road kill in my area

which reminds me ... I passed a alligator that had been run over on hwy 27 in florida

thx
wts

Highwaystar · « **Reply #33 on:** December 29, 2008, 08:58:21 PM »

I must have been a bad boy cause I got the shorter 9.5 inch in Oct after waiting a month and a half. I was told the wait was for a new production run. Hum. To top it off, it fit crappy and the bottom needed trimming. Had that 1959 experimental one off snowmobile look. Spose KW will give me a brake on the new one. I,m guessin not.... $:-\$

wts · « **Reply #34 on:** December 29, 2008, 11:06:58 PM »

it don't hurt to ask ... it's got the same part number as the old one, so you need them tom measure it before they ship

it took 'em 3 tries to get mine right ... that's right they sent me a windshield 3 times ...

when the right one got there I sent the other two back ... they sent me a return fed/x label

just work it
wts

HDDOCFL · « **Reply #35 on:** December 30, 2008, 08:17:53 AM »

While on the subject of windsheids! Is the Kury sheild built by Klock, they sure look the same? Thanks Doc

HDDOCFL · « **Reply #36 on:** December 30, 2008, 08:24:30 AM »

Quote from: wts on December 29, 2008, 10:45:31 AM

and the new

WTS Looks like that foam you use on the fairing may give the shield more rize height. Is that it ? Thanks Doc

wts · « **Reply #37 on:** December 30, 2008, 10:42:53 AM »

I don't think so ... when I bought the clearview, it came with a piece of foam like

the one you see now ... didn't like the looks of the clearview, but did like

way the foam worked ... so

I bought myself a piece of foam strip and used it on the klock werks ... but not

knowing the exact curvature I mount the foam to the seam in the fairing,

not the plexiglass ... when I got the new shield I didn't even change the foam

Hope that's clear
thx
wts

wts · « **Reply #38 on:** December 30, 2008, 10:45:40 AM »

P.S. if you set both the new and the old windshield on a flat surface ( ie. a desk )

and measure vertical to the desk, the new one is taller

thx
wts

Highjagger · « **Reply #39 on:** December 30, 2008, 12:30:07 PM »

Hey folks ,
Vic Briggs from Klock Werks just have sent me the message that the new 16" flare will be out in about 4-6 weeks .
Do you think it is worth to wait or order the Clearview Medium .
Hmmm

?

Puzzled · « **Reply #40 on:** January 01, 2009, 08:59:23 PM »

I went out and tried to duplicate your measurements on my bike.

It looks like the new version isn't going to work for me either. My flip up screen sits farther back than your. I beleive it will make contact with the windshield.

LarryB · « **Reply #41 on:** January 02, 2009, 06:21:49 AM »

Now fella's, this is the second time I've heard of and seen the Flip Up Screen. WTF is that all about?

Puzzled · « **Reply #42 on:** January 02, 2009, 07:27:21 AM »

Quote from: LarryB on January 02, 2009, 06:21:49 AM

Now fella's, this is the second time I've heard of and seen the Flip Up Screen. WTF is that all about?

It places the Navigation right in front of you, or in my case in my one ear! IMO it is cleaner looking than a portable unit mounted to the handlebars. Than add that my 01 radio was limited at best so when replacing it why not upgrade a little?!.

Rear view camera also.

Highjagger · « **Reply #43 on:** January 02, 2009, 07:30:08 AM »

A pioneer . Radio including GPS ?
How is the handling with the navigation ?

LarryB · « **Reply #44 on:** January 02, 2009, 07:30:43 AM »

So, Its a whole different radio

Puzzled · « **Reply #45 on:** January 02, 2009, 07:37:42 AM »

Quote from: LarryB on January 02, 2009, 07:30:43 AM

So, Its a whole different radio

Yes it is.

Highjagger · « **Reply #46 on:** January 02, 2009, 07:42:03 AM »

Which one ? .
I cannot find it on the pioneer-site .

Puzzled · « **Reply #47 on:** January 02, 2009, 07:45:09 AM »

Quote from: Highjagger on January 02, 2009, 07:42:03 AM

Which one ? .
I cannot find it on the pioneer-site .

My bad, they are up to the N5 now.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Products/Navigation/In-Dash/AVIC-N5

Brinks · « **Reply #48 on:** January 02, 2009, 11:29:48 AM »

Looks great but is it waterproof?

Highjagger · « **Reply #49 on:** January 02, 2009, 01:42:26 PM »

About 1400 Euro in Germany - Ups .

wts · « **Reply #50 on:** January 02, 2009, 02:06:19 PM »

mine might fit differently because it's a Kenwood

thx
wts

RickC · « **Reply #51 on:** January 02, 2009, 02:36:59 PM »

Quote from: wts on January 02, 2009, 02:06:19 PM

mine might fit differently because it's a Kenwood

What's the Kenwood Model Number?

What brackets & connectors did you use to mount the radio? Does it integrate with the factory hand controls?

wts · « **Reply #52 on:** January 02, 2009, 03:09:06 PM »

It's a KVT512 with the KNA G510 nav unit ...

I don't know which connectors as I had it installed ...

but it does work with the handle bar controls ...

and it is touch screen as well

uses garmin mapping and info

it's the easiest to use that I've had ... and I've had at least 10

or more in bikes, boats, and cars

thx
wts

wts · « **Reply #53 on:** January 02, 2009, 03:17:08 PM »

WHEEEEEEW ...look how dirty my winshield was

RickC · « **Reply #54 on:** January 02, 2009, 04:31:57 PM »

Quote from: wts on January 02, 2009, 03:09:06 PM

I don't know which connectors as I had it installed ...

Okay... so, who installed it for you?

wts · « **Reply #55 on:** January 02, 2009, 06:04:40 PM »

Soundtronics ... a local shop here in Wilmington

rasmusmi · « **Reply #56 on:** January 25, 2009, 10:49:26 AM »

Quote from: wts on December 29, 2008, 10:41:18 AM

I am posting pictures of the old 12 inch klock werks and then the new kw 12 inch

I definitely like the more "flaired" style of the old KW 12" better. Any word on their new 16" yet? I'm sure they'll have it on display at the Dealer Show in Cincinnati in mid-February. I don't want too tall a shield on my new SERG (coming in March). I think a big windshield defeats the design intent of this bike...might as well get an SE Ultra.
Just my 2-cents...

dartman · « **Reply #57 on:** January 25, 2009, 11:05:50 AM »

Quote from: Roadking on January 25, 2009, 10:49:26 AM

I definitely like the more "flaired" style of the old KW 12" better. Any word on their new 16" yet? I'm sure they'll have it on display at the Dealer Show in Cincinnati in mid-February. I don't want too tall a shield on my new SERG (coming in March). I think a big windshield defeats the design intent of this bike...might as well get an SE Ultra.
Just my 2-cents...

I thought the same thing until I ht the X Way, if your bike is going to leave the drive way for any length of time you will not tolerate a 12in KW for very long unless style takes precedence over suffering.

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