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110" motor
« on: July 16, 2006, 01:47:25 PM »

Anyone know the specs on the new 110 (bore and stroke)? The website didn't show. Also with the new 96" motor, I would think that a big bore (3 7/8") would make a nice 103" with about 9.6+ to 1 comp. Sounds like a real nice setup for Andrews 37Gs.
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Re: 110" motor
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2006, 01:49:43 PM »

There's some more detail in theis thread:

http://flhrsei.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1152897232/10#10
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Re: 110" motor
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2006, 11:32:29 PM »

The 'specs' are supposed to be in the dealerships this week, but it's probably a 96" with a (14 cu in) big bore kit, or different stroker kit,or combination so that works out to be a bit more than the 88-95" big bore kit (7 cu in) or 95" to 103" kit (8 cu in). Be interesting to see how they price out the conversion kits in the catalog.

Zippers is probably already working on getting their hands on one of the new engine assortments.  :)
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Re: 110" motor
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2006, 02:36:26 AM »

I read that the 110 is a totally new motor (ie not an upgrade of the 103 or 95) with something like 140 new parts but did not have the specs.
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Re: 110" motor
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2006, 02:56:03 AM »

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I read that the 110 is a totally new motor (ie not an upgrade of the 103 or 95) with something like 140 new parts but did not have the specs.


If you read the interchangeablility lists of the P&A kits that are currently posted they STRONGLY suggest that the 07 stuff is significantly different.  All the interchanges for the upgrades published are "07 and newer."
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Re: 110" motor
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2006, 08:20:00 AM »

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If you read the interchangeablility lists of the P&A kits that are currently posted they STRONGLY suggest that the 07 stuff is significantly different.  All the interchanges for the upgrades published are "07 and newer."

Yeah, it doesn't look like it's going to be any kind of bolt on jugs/pistons/heads thing, at least not at first glance.
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Re: 110" motor
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2006, 08:46:36 AM »

just gotta check the P&A catalog

option 1 96->103

Screamin' Eagle® Big Bore Stage I Kit for EFI Models - 1690cc

This Big Bore Kit lets you increase the displacement of your Twin Cam 96-equipped model from 96 cubic inches (1584cc) to 103 cubic inches (1690cc). Includes Big Bore cylinders, Big Bore flat top pistons, rings, clips, and a Stage I Air Cleaner Kit with one-piece backplate, integral breathers, all mounting hardware, and gaskets. A high performance clutch spring is included to provide the additional clutch capacity required by the extra power. Requires separate purchase of primary cover gasket. This kit is street legal when used with stock mufflers. (Not all components shown.) All models require ECM calibration. (priced separately). E.O. pending for '07 models. (Available November 2006.)



option 2 96->110

Screamin' Eagle® 110 Cubic Inch Stage I Kit for EFI Models

Bring your Twin Cam motorcycle up to the same displacement and power output as the CVO Screamin' Eagle® models - a whopping 1800cc's. This 50-state street legal kit combines all the proven components of the '07 Screamin' Eagle® models - the 4" big-bore cast pistons and cylinders, SE-255 camshafts, and cylinder heads with automatic compression release. The Screamin' Eagle® cylinder heads and cast piston combination offer a 9.3:1 compression ratio for easy starting. The cylinder heads also prominently feature the "Screamin' Eagle®" script. Kits includes all required gaskets (except primary cover) and hardware to complete the installation. EO Pending for '07 models. All models require ECM calibration. (priced separately) (Available November 2006.)


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Re: 110" motor
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2006, 08:49:06 AM »

gonna be some extra labor to goto 110.................

Screamin' Eagle® Case Boring Tool

The Screamin' Eagle® Case Boring Tool takes the guesswork out of boring Twin Cam engine cases to accept oversize cylinders. Designed to be used with a heavy-duty 15" drill press or milling machine, the fixture holds and aligns the cases for accurate machining. Ideal for installing a new '07 Twin Cam 110 cubic inch Stage Kit or a '99-'06 race-use "bigger bore" 113 cubic inch stroker cylinders.

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Re: 110" motor
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2006, 10:27:39 AM »

 8-) 110 ci is a good thing.. is rtb2 thinkin bout jumping ship?? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
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Re: 110" motor
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2006, 10:36:10 AM »

Nait....I can't get to the P&A site right now...but will the new kits bolt to the old bottom ends?  Or, did they make some changes to them which would prevent the 103 owners from getting any kind of "kit" that would be a bolt on deal?
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Re: 110" motor
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2006, 10:44:11 AM »

not enough details in P&A to say for sure, but the 110 kit shows cams that i'm guessin are not compatible with out "older" motors given the new cam plate design. but i would think the cylinders and heads would work, just need to supply your own cams and maybe a bigger intake. but at this time P&A shows a package deal that includes mufflers. may be hard pressed to find a dealer willing to touch this for you. but you still have the "bigger" bore option to goto 113"
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Re: 110" motor
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2006, 01:05:45 PM »

Anybody else notice the torque curve is 500 rpm lower than the 88 and 1000 rpm lower than the 103 and about 10% stronger?  That could be a real good thing for those of us that like to long distance ride.  I sure hope they've got the efi dialed in better.
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Re: 110" motor
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2006, 10:00:54 PM »

I don't post much but have the all the new 07 info in pdf if someone wants/host it. Has all the new spec in it for all models...

NEW CVO Engine
• 110 cu. in. 1800 cc engine
• 9.3:1 Compression ratio
• New heads, combustion
chamber, ports and
intake valve
• 255 Cams
• 4 in. bore
• 110-Scripted derby cover
and air cleaner insert
• Syn 3 engine oil
• 1.4 Kw starter
• 4.375 (111.13 mm) stroke;
same as OE engines
• ACR solenoids to ease
start-up – located in
each cylinder head
• Torque range of
105-115 ft. lbs.
measured at crankshaft
(depending on model)
• All CVO models have
hydraulic clutch – DOT 4™
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Re: 110" motor
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2006, 10:29:09 PM »

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I don't post much but have the all the new 07 info in pdf if someone wants/host it. Has all the new spec in it for all models...

NEW CVO Engine
• 110 cu. in. 1800 cc engine
• 9.3:1 Compression ratio
• New heads, combustion
chamber, ports and
intake valve
• 255 Cams
• 4 in. bore
• 110-Scripted derby cover
and air cleaner insert
• Syn 3 engine oil
• 1.4 Kw starter
• 4.375 (111.13 mm) stroke;
same as OE engines
• ACR solenoids to ease
start-up – located in
each cylinder head
• Torque range of
105-115 ft. lbs.
measured at crankshaft
(depending on model)
• All CVO models have
hydraulic clutch – DOT 4™

Charlie, for your first post that's pretty good stuff.  Interesting that they're including compression releases for such a low advertised compression rate.  Also will be interested to see how well their automatic compression releases work as you know they're doing someing without user intervention if they're doing it for the mass market.
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Re: 110" motor
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2006, 09:01:43 AM »

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Charlie, for your first post that's pretty good stuff.  Interesting that they're including compression releases for such a low advertised compression rate.  Also will be interested to see how well their automatic compression releases work as you know they're doing someing without user intervention if they're doing it for the mass market.

jap cruisers have been using automatic compression releases for years.
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