Topic: CVO "Chopper".....when??? (Read 3488 times)

rasmusmi · « **on:** July 23, 2004, 09:38:17 AM »

OK, the 2005 CVO's are out of the bag.....zzzzzz!
WHEN is Harley going to wake up to the current Chopper-craze and offer one of its own?

Another Forum is advocating that they've heard Harley has hired Jesse James to design one for them, which would be really cool [smiley=1syellow1.gif], but - if so - WHEN will it be available...after the market's saturated?? [smiley=furious.gif]

I plan to always keep my 2003 FLHRSEI2, but in addition, a CVO Chopper with their (non-production) 120" motor and their (non-production) 6-speed tranny would be awesome! [smiley=1syellow1.gif]

Any thoughts, comments and add'l. insight/info. would be appreciated from the Group.
Thanks, and Ride Safe! [smiley=biggthumpup.gif]

naitram · « **Reply #1 on:** July 23, 2004, 10:02:48 AM »

your guess is a good as mine. Jesse has already done a concept bike for honda based on the VTX motor

i dont know if he would do one for harley that would be like working for his competition

mr_magoo · « **Reply #2 on:** July 27, 2004, 08:41:51 AM »

Nice looking bike for a honda

rasmusmi · « **Reply #3 on:** August 05, 2004, 10:01:49 AM »

Rumor has it Harley will be unveiling a "new model" at Sturgis this weekend...maybe (hopefully) a 'Chopper" with their JIMS 120" motor and 6-speed tranny, and all offered through CVO???.......I must be dreaming, right? [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif]
Comments, anyone?

skull · « **Reply #4 on:** August 05, 2004, 10:23:50 PM »

I'm with you, I hope they introduce a chopper at Sturgis. Not saying that I wil get one tis year, but I just think that it will be a nice line for them. Too many high dollar spenders going elsewhere.

I received a questionaire in the mail mack in January asking a bunch of questions about choppers and I would I purchase a chopper from HD.

For a company that tries to shake every nickel out of your pockets, I can't believe that they would wait another year and watch people spend their money elsewhere.

Skull

smitty_01 · « **Reply #5 on:** August 06, 2004, 02:51:30 AM »

I was at the roundtable discussion at Carlisle Bikefest a few weeks ago.

ggraves427 · « **Reply #6 on:** August 06, 2004, 09:52:33 AM »

I have noticed that several HD Dealers in the Dallas area have Choppers on the show room floor. They have HD drivetrain with after market frame and sheet metal. Each has a custom paint job. The manufacturer's name is Thunder Mountain, but I am sure HD has something to do with it or they would not be on the dealer showroom floor. [smiley=shocked2.gif]

mfgreen · « **Reply #7 on:** August 06, 2004, 10:34:46 AM »

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I have noticed that several HD Dealers in the Dallas area have Choppers on the show room floor.

rasmusmi · « **Reply #8 on:** August 06, 2004, 11:51:04 AM »

The H-D Dealer I go to also offers a "custom buit" Chopper service using kits they'll assemble for you (for a handsome fee, of course). I'm sure this is something they're doing on their own to carve off some of the cash cow Chopper market right now, and is not an H-D Corporately sponsored thing (actually, probably frowned upon by H-D Corp!).

Let's see if they do unveil something new in Rapid City, SD tomorrow when they open their Sturgis Show at the Convention Center there.

IF they do, I'm hoping it is a "CVO Chopper"! [smiley=1syellow1.gif]

JCZ · « **Reply #9 on:** August 06, 2004, 05:21:15 PM »

Just my opnion here guys. HD is not going to hire Jesse James or any of the other builders that's built a name for theirself. There will not be a "chopper" production, either.

The CVOs are Harley's vision of the "factory custom" and they're doing well with that program. The CVOs or "factory customs" will continue to be a part of Willie G's vision and that of his team.

Just my opnion guys. I realize it doesn't help to promote the gossip cycle, but I think it's closer to reality.

rasmusmi · « **Reply #10 on:** August 06, 2004, 10:24:30 PM »

Party Pooper! [smiley=cry2.gif] But....you're probably right.

I still find it very hard to believe that our favorite big (greedy) Motor Company, whom we all love dearly, would let this "cash cow Chopper craze" go by without stabbing off their share of the (profit) beef.

Only time (or a really good inside source) will tell.
Until then, ride safe! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

rasmusmi · « **Reply #11 on:** August 09, 2004, 08:42:35 PM »

Well, it doesn't look like it'll be at Sturgis (too close to the new 2005 model intros, anyway). Maybe at Daytona in March??? [smiley=confused5.gif]
Guess we'll all just have to wait and see. [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

rasmusmi · « **Reply #12 on:** August 12, 2004, 09:15:37 AM »

No "secret new bike" unveiled at Sturgis.
What about at Daytona in March, the tradition "unveiling" for H-D of any new bikes (outside their new model year offering in July)?....anyone...anyone...?
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flhrsei2_gret's_is for sale · « **Reply #13 on:** August 18, 2004, 09:59:21 AM »

You guys seem to be fantasizing about having something made for you. Whattareya? Nuts?

Take my bike for example - remove the baggs, put them nicely on a shelf. Remove the tour pak, store it as well. Take off the heavy wheels - including the tarnished polished job only 8 mo. old?, remove the front forks, take off the huge headlamp, take a look at removing the floor boards - set up the bike with a collector pipe, use the lowered design, rake out the front a bit, add a fattie on the back, and sync everything from there.

This is what was done in old-school 60's shops. The frames weren't customized with gold paints and globs of poor welding left behind. These old frames were "do what you can to it, in the factory or in your shops". The old panheads show off these frames, nicely.

If I decide to go with a chopped version of my bike - guys, you'll have to see it to believe it. May take a while, we'll grow a few extra gray hairs, but it'll be worth the wait. I need a bike in my garage I can ride, and it has to be less the 740 lb. like my clunker currently is...

Wonder what HD would say if they'd see my 103" framed up with my version of what I want to bike to do and look like?

"Hydraulic clutch on a chopper?".... (cool)

mfgreen · « **Reply #14 on:** August 30, 2004, 01:58:38 PM »

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You guys seem to be fantasizing about having something made for you. Whattareya? Nuts?

Take my bike for example - remove the baggs, put them nicely on a shelf. Remove the tour pak, store it as well. Take off the heavy wheels - including the tarnished polished job only 8 mo. old?, remove the front forks, take off the huge headlamp, take a look at removing the floor boards - set up the bike with a collector pipe, use the lowered design, rake out the front a bit, add a fattie on the back, and sync everything from there.

This is what was done in old-school 60's shops. The frames weren't customized with gold paints and globs of poor welding left behind. These old frames were "do what you can to it, in the factory or in your shops". The old panheads show off these frames, nicely.

If I decide to go with a chopped version of my bike - guys, you'll have to see it to believe it. May take a while, we'll grow a few extra gray hairs, but it'll be worth the wait. I need a bike in my garage I can ride, and it has to be less the 740 lb. like my clunker currently is...

Wonder what HD would say if they'd see my 103" framed up with my version of what I want to bike to do and look like?

"Hydraulic clutch on a chopper?".... (cool)

Everyone personalizes their bikes to their tastes and budgets. If you were to start out with a different frame and wheels, forks,motor, tranny and fenders; it may be more economical to start from scratch and incorporate the good features that you like on your SERK. I know that you are having a few problems with fit and finish on your SERK. Harley can be difficult to deal with on these items. Persevere, you will succeed.

jfscheck · « **Reply #15 on:** September 14, 2004, 02:27:21 PM »

I think a Dyna frame and even with a 103 motor would make the nice foundations for a CVO chopper.

With the current craze, Harley would be sure to sell the front forks, etc. for others to follow suit...

mfgreen · « **Reply #16 on:** December 03, 2004, 11:53:40 PM »

Chip Foose Sculpts Custom Chopper
http://www.riderreport.com/output.cfm?id=905293

Twolanerider · « **Reply #17 on:** December 04, 2004, 01:36:02 AM »

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Chip Foose Sculpts Custom Chopper
http://www.riderreport.com/output.cfm?id=905293

Interesting (not necessarily attractive, but interesting) looking bike. But what's it got to do with a topic of the potential of a CVO chopper?

mfgreen · « **Reply #18 on:** December 04, 2004, 01:43:57 AM »

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Interesting (not necessarily attractive, but interesting) looking bike.

Twolanerider · « **Reply #19 on:** December 04, 2004, 03:54:50 AM »

What you spoke to is something I've wondered about occasionally during the conversations about a factory chopper or a "CVO" chopper; and that's just what would it be? So many of the more well known or notorious bikes that are sold as (ostensibly) choppers really aren't. And so many of them that really are aren't really machines you'd take out on the highway; at least not for any real travel. They're barhoppers, at best; and that's what they're designed to be (unless you can carry everything you'll want to take with you in a shirt pocket or a rolled up tshirt sleeve and won't mind pissing blood after a couple days in the saddle).

So, just what would a "factory" or a "CVO" chopper actually be since in being an HD product it would have to be something that could actually be ridden and not be solely a status piece? Wouldn't it? (And I ask because I'm not really sure I know what the answer to the question would be....).

Guess what I'm wondering is, if the MoCo makes something that's sold as a chopper are they by contemporary definitions offering a product that is going to be just a bar hopper status piece and not a bike to be ridden much more than around town or in the county? Or would the product be designed to have the handling, safety and at least modicum of comfort that would be required for the mass audience to be able to ride it all day? I mean, hey, Peter Fonda may have helped glorify the chopper, but he rides a Road King.... So is the chopper a circle that can be made square enough to fit the various requirements of a mass manufacturer like Harley Davidson and still keep it a real chopper (even for the CVO audience)?

mfgreen · « **Reply #20 on:** December 04, 2004, 10:57:28 AM »

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What you spoke to is something I've wondered about occasionally during the conversations about a factory chopper or a "CVO" chopper; and that's just what would it be?

rasmusmi · « **Reply #21 on:** December 04, 2004, 11:49:05 AM »

Gentlemen,
I think the TC103B engine would be the ticket (IF the EPA won't let then offer the assembled 120" JIMS engine, which they're selling in components right now), but it's critical to have a minimum 240 back tire, stretched frame and, preferably, a stretched tank if you're going to call yourself a "Chopper" (in my humble opinion). [smiley=dunce2.gif]

Not sure if the MoCo's big Legal Dept. will let them do all that right now.
We may be in for a long wait for any H-D Chopper to surface, if ever.... [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

Ride sfae! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

Tony - www.1700cc.co.uk · « **Reply #22 on:** December 13, 2004, 06:33:08 PM »

Gentlemen,

You are all missing it here .......... You can read about a real chopper at;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/nottingham/features/2004/01/chopper_returns.shtml

Jock · « **Reply #23 on:** December 13, 2004, 09:32:01 PM »

Not sure about the CVO Chopper! As an owner of both a CVO and a Custom Build Chopper with an S&S 124 engine, the MotoCo would have to increase their current outcome quite subtanially in the area of performance, cosmetics, and adaptability.

For me, I am uncertain as to my interest in a HD type Chopper.

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