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My wife (who's just starting to ride again) and I had a long discussion today about stopping at stop signs. We've been riding together quite a bit over the past 6 weeks since she took the 2 1/2 day riders course and find ourselves approaching stop signs with the intent of keeping our feet on the pegs, looking both ways and keep moving. I have stopped a few times and put my feet down only to cause her to brake hard to stop. She says if she see me move into the intersection, she assumes it is safe for her and keeps rolling.
Our discussion today was on the discipline of stopping at EVERY sign and putting our feet down, then looking for oncoming traffic. I find if I am approaching an intersection with the intent of keeping my feet up, I'm looking both ways but my mind is actively trying to keep the bike balanced and I am distracted. I usually look right, then left, then right again to confirm but if I am trying to keep from putting a foot down, I may not look right a second time. If I am riding alone, I am more confident of pulling off a feet-up near stop but if I am riding with my wife I am thinking about whether or not there is room for two bikes to safely make the turn. All this overloads my tiny little mind.
My wife said in the training school they did not require that you put feet down at stop signs. Not sure if it is the law but I am wondering what you experienced riders do. Do you do the same thing at each stop sign? Do you do the same thing when leading another rider? following another rider?
Looking for some experienced counsel.
Thanks in advance for your views!
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Except on rare occasions it's both feet on the ground at the stop sign. Hard to believe any school would coach anything other than that. The notion of blindly following another rider through a stop sign is a recipe for eventual disaster.
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I seldom put my feet down, unless there is a tremendous amount of traffic.
The more you ride the better your balance gets......we have a few riders that can stay on there bike at a full stop what seems like forever.
I cannot do that......but dragging the rear brake only does help stabilize the bike.....I do not use the front brake at all during normal stops at signs.....just easier for balance
I will plan to put my foot down if the line of sight requires you to look over your shoulder......very hard to keep balance moving real slow with your head swiveled all of the way around
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Stop means stop. All you need is two vehicles rolling and that could be a mistake that you can't get back. That being said, visibility and lack thereof will have a lot to do with what you actually do. On a ride thru upstate New York, a friend rolled thru a stop sign then continued across the intersection only to get pulled over by a Trooper on the other side. As I pulled up I could overhear my friend telling the Trooper that no one was coming and he did slow down. The Trooper told him that the sign says STOP not slowdown. Again my friend, louder this time,(as if he was going to change the Officer's mind), "but I slowed down!!" Now the Trooper took out his ticket book and as he began to write the ticket, my buddy took a very misguided step towards the Trooper almost screaming,"but I f**ing slowed down!!" As my friend's foot barely touched the ground, the Trooper dropped the ticket book, pulled out and extended his baton and proceeded to pummel my buddy and say,"well asshole,would you like me to stop or slow down?" Point is you are responsible for your decisions.
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Except on rare occasions it's both feet on the ground at the stop sign. Hard to believe any school would coach anything other than that. The notion of blindly following another rider through a stop sign is a recipe for eventual disaster.
Exactly
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I agree I try to STOP at all stop signs, feet down.
I admit I've slowed down and went through not really a good decision,but for the most part
full stop. Back break to slow down front break feet down final stop
Jo Mo NYC :coolblue:
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I seldom put both feet down. Sometimes i try to do a balancing act to see how long i can hold it without feet.. Jesh sometime I surprise the hell of me, I think i got a 10 seconder one time. :2vrolijk_21: Here i Calif you are required to stop with both feet, but never seen it enforced.
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I agree I try to STOP at all stop signs, feet down.
I admit I've slowed down and went through not really a good decision,but for the most part
full stop. Back break to slow down front break feet down final stop
Jo Mo NYC :coolblue:
Hate to stop, except for STOP signs. Left foot down, front brake last, (to make Ol' Maudie rock up and down), look both ways, and proceed, if clear. ;) There endeth the lesson. Later--HUBARD
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Do what ever makes ya feel good and how much money you have in your wallet. Here in Oregon, Stop means to stop with at least one foot down. If you come to a stop without placing the foot down and then take off, you have two tickets. One for running a stop sign and the other is for reckless driving if the front tire wiggle any at all! (hint: you can argue with a cop all you want, guess who the judge is going to believe} No need to get back on me on this one. Trust me on this one . . . OK! :-X Not to mention that the insurance will be all over this one with surcharges for three years!
UglyJohn
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Here in Oregon the law says at least one foot down or get a ticket. I find myself when I stop putting my left foot down sometimes and many times at a stop signs balancing for a quick stop and no feet down. No tickets yet.
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I try to always come to a complete stop with both feet down.
First -Safety is the issue and I am not sure the other person is going to stop or roll on through the stop sign they may look in my direction but not see me and decide to go.
Second I have my wife or another family member on the bike and even if I want to be reckless with my life I should not put them in danger.
Third- It is always good practice - I never know when I am going to need to stop - we have ALOT OF DEER and CRAZY DRIVERS when they see deer (or even if they don't). Deer are very unpredictable and though I always slow down when I see them sometimes I have to stop, also cars stop sometimes for the deer. Then there are all the other reasons when we ride we have to stop - construction, bridge closed, someone turning etc. so the way I see it the more times I stop the more comfortable I am which allows me to handle these situations when they arise.
I like to ride hard and feel the wind in my hair I just want to make sure that I do everything I can to enjoy it as much tomorrow as I do today. :2vrolijk_21:
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My wife (who's just starting to ride again) and I had a long discussion today about stopping at stop signs. We've been riding together quite a bit over the past 6 weeks since she took the 2 1/2 day riders course and find ourselves approaching stop signs with the intent of keeping our feet on the pegs, looking both ways and keep moving. I have stopped a few times and put my feet down only to cause her to brake hard to stop. She says if she see me move into the intersection, she assumes it is safe for her and keeps rolling.
Our discussion today was on the discipline of stopping at EVERY sign and putting our feet down, then looking for oncoming traffic. I find if I am approaching an intersection with the intent of keeping my feet up, I'm looking both ways but my mind is actively trying to keep the bike balanced and I am distracted. I usually look right, then left, then right again to confirm but if I am trying to keep from putting a foot down, I may not look right a second time. If I am riding alone, I am more confident of pulling off a feet-up near stop but if I am riding with my wife I am thinking about whether or not there is room for two bikes to safely make the turn. All this overloads my tiny little mind.
My wife said in the training school they did not require that you put feet down at stop signs. Not sure if it is the law but I am wondering what you experienced riders do. Do you do the same thing at each stop sign? Do you do the same thing when leading another rider? following another rider?
Looking for some experienced counsel.
Thanks in advance for your views!
Hope you don't mind if I jump in with a couple of things.
One should NEVER assume that just because another rider has entered an intersection, it is safe to do so. She needs to perform her own checks and NOT be dependant on you. As a matter of fact, that rule could be applied to ALL aspects of riding.
If you are still working on slow riding balance, and know that your attention is distracted trying to keep balanced, then stop and put your foot down. Why risk it? The 2.5 seconds of time you saved rolling though the intersection is not worth dumping the bike, falling over, or getting hit. In the mean time, practice slow riding, "stop-n-go" and "pause-n-go".
You wife may have been referring to the "pause-n-go" which is NOT a substitue for a complete stop, but rather a way to learn better slow speed balance and control. The MSF does NOT advocate "rolling through stops" as it builds lazy and bad habits.
Having said all that, my stopping preferences are based on the indiviual situation. If all traffic is slowing, checking, and then rolling, then that is what I will probably do as not to hold up traffic. I usually do this if there is NO cross or turning traffic. However if I feel that cross traffic is NOT paying attention or may not stop, then I stop and put my foot down and wait until I feel safe enough to go.
Mark
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My wife use to follow me when I would proceed. Soon she learned that sometimes I do not make very good decisions. So a long time ago while she decided it is better to make her own decisions. i feel this is the right thing to do. :2vrolijk_21:
:pumpkin:
Brad
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I seldom put my feet down, unless there is a tremendous amount of traffic.
The more you ride the better your balance gets......we have a few riders that can stay on there bike at a full stop what seems like forever.
I cannot do that......but dragging the rear brake only does help stabilize the bike.....I do not use the front brake at all during normal stops at signs.....just easier for balance
I will plan to put my foot down if the line of sight requires you to look over your shoulder......very hard to keep balance moving real slow with your head swiveled all of the way around
I do the opposite. I brake with mostly the back brake until I can put my feet down and then it's front only. Only on a country road with no traffic will I have a "rolling" stop.
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In NJ, at the stop sign we have to stop for at least 3 seconds (complete stop) and proceed if and only if it is safe. If a driver stops at a sign then proceed and gets into an accident, it is his fault. Stopping alone is not enough, it has be safe to proceed.
It is also a scientific fact that when your eyes are moving, you can not focus and you'll not see everything and your brain does not process everything your eyes move over.
I have tried that many many times on hunting trips when glassing. I have looked through binoculars sweeping the filed and didn't see anything, went back right away with sweep and pause motion, and I found animals looking at me.
With all that being said, I don't follow same pattern at every intersection. What I do at an intersection depends on the road condition, traffic condition, intersection (4 way or 2 way stop) and the direction of the turn (left or right turn).
Last word: When in doubt, hesitate.
:) ;) >:( :o :huepfenjump3:
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My wife (who's just starting to ride again) and I had a long discussion today about stopping at stop signs. We've been riding together quite a bit over the past 6 weeks since she took the 2 1/2 day riders course and find ourselves approaching stop signs with the intent of keeping our feet on the pegs, looking both ways and keep moving. I have stopped a few times and put my feet down only to cause her to brake hard to stop. She says if she see me move into the intersection, she assumes it is safe for her and keeps rolling.
Our discussion today was on the discipline of stopping at EVERY sign and putting our feet down, then looking for oncoming traffic. I find if I am approaching an intersection with the intent of keeping my feet up, I'm looking both ways but my mind is actively trying to keep the bike balanced and I am distracted. I usually look right, then left, then right again to confirm but if I am trying to keep from putting a foot down, I may not look right a second time. If I am riding alone, I am more confident of pulling off a feet-up near stop but if I am riding with my wife I am thinking about whether or not there is room for two bikes to safely make the turn. All this overloads my tiny little mind.
My wife said in the training school they did not require that you put feet down at stop signs. Not sure if it is the law but I am wondering what you experienced riders do. Do you do the same thing at each stop sign? Do you do the same thing when leading another rider? following another rider?
Looking for some experienced counsel.
Thanks in advance for your views!
Best advice in this thread is never assume just because another rider does something - proceeding into an intersection in front of you especially - that it is safe for other riders to proceed as well. Traffic conditions change second to second & each rider is responsible for their own decisions.
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My wife (who's just starting to ride again) and I had a long discussion today about stopping at stop signs. We've been riding together quite a bit over the past 6 weeks since she took the 2 1/2 day riders course and find ourselves approaching stop signs with the intent of keeping our feet on the pegs, looking both ways and keep moving. I have stopped a few times and put my feet down only to cause her to brake hard to stop. She says if she see me move into the intersection, she assumes it is safe for her and keeps rolling.
Our discussion today was on the discipline of stopping at EVERY sign and putting our feet down, then looking for oncoming traffic. I find if I am approaching an intersection with the intent of keeping my feet up, I'm looking both ways but my mind is actively trying to keep the bike balanced and I am distracted. I usually look right, then left, then right again to confirm but if I am trying to keep from putting a foot down, I may not look right a second time. If I am riding alone, I am more confident of pulling off a feet-up near stop but if I am riding with my wife I am thinking about whether or not there is room for two bikes to safely make the turn. All this overloads my tiny little mind.
My wife said in the training school they did not require that you put feet down at stop signs. Not sure if it is the law but I am wondering what you experienced riders do. Do you do the same thing at each stop sign? Do you do the same thing when leading another rider? following another rider?
Looking for some experienced counsel.
Thanks in advance for your views!
That is scary. One of the most important lessons of riding is to understand that you are responsible for your own safety - no one else....
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I see a lot of close calls at stop signs from riders that have been riding both a long time and a few years. The habit of following the 1st rider blindly through a stop sign is plain stupid. Many riders take the view that if the 1st rider starts through the intersection then all cars should yield and let all riders through. Then it gets me when these same riders get mad when a car starts toward them when they are in the intersection.
I stop with my feet up then move cautiously.
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I see a lot of close calls at stop signs from riders that have been riding both a long time and a few years. The habit of following the 1st rider blindly through a stop sign is plain stupid. Many riders take the view that if the 1st rider starts through the intersection then all cars should yield and let all riders through. Then it gets me when these same riders get mad when a car starts toward them when they are in the intersection.
I stop with my feet up then move cautiously.
Wow, I wish I could do that. :huepfenlol2:
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Even though we arrived in Sturgis mid week this year, there were several of our friends there that did in fact get ticketed for rolling stops. They said that the police were watching VERY closely this year. It was two feet down or a ticket.
I try sometimes to do the balancing act too, but I have to agree, it is distracting. The concentration it takes takes to do this takes your mind off the intended purpose of the stop, that is to look for oncoming traffic.
One thing I have noticed when going from my old '76 FLH to the new SERK, the rear passenger pegs/boards, tend to be in the way on the new bike. When I place my feet down to the pavement just before I stop rolling, if my foot sticks to the pavement just a bit it smashes back into the passenger foot or peg or board and gets me right in the calf.
When taking off I have to remember to not drag my feet as they again will get my legs smashed. I now try to just lift straight up and take off.
Another thing I compare between the two bikes, and I still on occasion ride the FLH two up, the low gear on the old bike lets you take off a bit more smoothly with the lower gear ratio. With the new SERK I still have to slip the clutch a lot to get a good smooth take off. You have to be rolling faster to finally let the clutch all the way out, but the old bike is really great for the very slow speed parking lot rolls without having to slip the clutch.
Sorry for the rambling on about a change of topic.
The bottom line is to be safe and having your full attention at any traffic intersection, whether it's a green light while you're going through or some other cross traffic intersection, observation is key. Always drive defensively. Assume the worst that could happen.
Back in my younger days, I drove seasonally for UPS around the holidays. While driving for UPS if ANYTHING happens to the truck, you're at fault. I'm sorry, a broken windshield was not a chargeable accident, but any moving accident was charged against you as a driver. Their thinking is that if you're aware of your surroundings, you can avoid anything that might happen. That did teach me a lot about driving more defensively.
Again I digress, sorry.
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Wow, I wish I could do that. :huepfenlol2:
Like most, I have some habits (good and bad) that have been with me for 30 plus years of riding. Feet up, balanced, stopped for a second, cautious yet agressive an defensive. Not perfect but they are my bad habits. I do not follow others without verifying the road ahead for myself.
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Not even sure what this is about. Stop means stop! Law says complete stop. Anything less is ticketable. Do I stop completely at every stop sign? Hell no! But it's my responsibility to do so, and must make sure that I can if someone's coming! Putting your feet down has nothing to do with how you stop. Don't forget to do that if you're at a complete stop though! ::) ;D
And follow blindly the guy in front of me? Only if I had a death wish!!! :nixweiss: ;)
Hoist! 8)
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Like most, I have some habits (good and bad) that have been with me for 30 plus years of riding. Feet up, balanced, stopped for a second, cautious yet agressive an defensive. Not perfect but they are my bad habits. I do not follow others without verifying the road ahead for myself.
I was just reffering to your stopping with your feet up , I thought that was a miss type :vrolijk27:. You mean pause with feet up and go.
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Not even sure what this is about. Stop means stop! Law says complete stop. Anything less is ticketable. Do I stop completely at every stop sign? Hell no! But it's my responsibility to do so, and must make sure that I can if someone's coming! Putting your feet down has nothing to do with how you stop. Don't forget to do that if you're at a complete stop though! ::) ;D
And follow blindly the guy in front of me? Only if I had a death wish!!! :nixweiss: ;)
Hoist! 8)
Howie, at Howie-speed, figure you stop as fast as you ride. ;)
Last year, after a ride, somebody (no, not me) forgot to put their jiffy stand down after they stopped in the parking lot & tried to get off the bike as it fell over. :huepfenlol2:
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I find using the brakes seems to be the best way to stop....I 'm just saying...
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I always come to a complete stop with both feet down and look both ways. Even if it were not an enforced law, I don't want to push the envelope into an inevitable disaster. I just took the Virginia BSR course, and highly recommend it to even the most seasoned of riders. After riding motorcycles for 24 years, I have gained additional tools and insight into proper operation and safety. I will now be planning to take the advanced course early next year. Ride Safe!
Flyndyna
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At a true stop sign or light ,We always come to a compleat stop then resume travel. One word of caution have her watch traffic , do not rely on just watching you . The other issue is how close she followes, if you have to panic stop she will rear end you for sure. My wife and I have ridden separate bikes for a little over 10 years. Early on in our riding together I was pulling out of a gas station onto a 50 mph road ,Realizing we couldn't,t both be safe I hit the brakes and she tagged me big time. My fault for not thinking through the situation completely before going but also she was way to close. Just a word from experience.
Enjoy riding together it has been great for us.
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I was just reffering to your stopping with your feet up , I thought that was a miss type :vrolijk27:. You mean pause with feet up and go.
Not back peddling here but I pause (stop) with my feet up if the intersection is clear and no one is in the opposing lanes. If opposing traffic is there then my pause (stop) is not an option. At busy or occupied intersection a foot does touch the ground. I pause...I mean I will Stop this and start working.
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I find using the brakes seems to be the best way to stop....I 'm just saying...
Shoe soles worn out?
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Shoe soles worn out?
BA HA!!!!
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I find using the brakes seems to be the best way to stop....I 'm just saying...
Ya mean not the ole Fred Flintstone stop? :nixweiss: ;D
Hoist! 8)
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If there is something better, let me know....The flip flpos don't last long doin the freddy...I can't throw an anchor, even though the oldster it'd prolly help....So far the brakes seem to work best for stopping... :nixweiss:
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I do a rolling stop w/o putting my feet down every chance I get.
If a semi truck is coming down the highway, I'll stop. If I stop, I put my feet down, I'll continue to do so until the day I'm riding a trike.
If I'm following someone, and they pull out in front of said semi truck, I'll stop. I'll put my feet down in this scenario also. I'll also put it in neutral and let out the cluth so I can call 911 on my cell phone, because there's gonna be one hell of a wreck.
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My wife (who's just starting to ride again) and I had a long discussion today about stopping at stop signs. We've been riding together quite a bit over the past 6 weeks since she took the 2 1/2 day riders course and find ourselves approaching stop signs with the intent of keeping our feet on the pegs, looking both ways and keep moving. I have stopped a few times and put my feet down only to cause her to brake hard to stop. She says if she see me move into the intersection, she assumes it is safe for her and keeps rolling.
Our discussion today was on the discipline of stopping at EVERY sign and putting our feet down, then looking for oncoming traffic. I find if I am approaching an intersection with the intent of keeping my feet up, I'm looking both ways but my mind is actively trying to keep the bike balanced and I am distracted. I usually look right, then left, then right again to confirm but if I am trying to keep from putting a foot down, I may not look right a second time. If I am riding alone, I am more confident of pulling off a feet-up near stop but if I am riding with my wife I am thinking about whether or not there is room for two bikes to safely make the turn. All this overloads my tiny little mind.
My wife said in the training school they did not require that you put feet down at stop signs. Not sure if it is the law but I am wondering what you experienced riders do. Do you do the same thing at each stop sign? Do you do the same thing when leading another rider? following another rider?
Looking for some experienced counsel.
Thanks in advance for your views!
I infer from this that your wife is following you when riding. The rule I always follow is that the less experienced rider goes first. In groups of 3 or more the less experienced riders go in the middle.
One of the most dangerous things about riding behind someone is the tendency to follow them instead of the road. Inexperienced riders especially. . Also, A lot of accidents are caused by a less experienced rider trying to keep up with a more experienced one.
Comments?
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I'm definitely a "pause and go" stopper. I know it's a lazy bad habit but I've gotten quite good at it. I could likely get a ticket. You're right, it's distracting trying to keep your feet up when the right thing to do is to stop with both feet down to get a better look. I do that with my daughter on the bike.
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The old saying, "Do as I say - Not as I do" could apply here.
Most of the time I can come to a complete stop at a stop sign and set there for several seconds (probably up to 10 seconds pretty often) without putting a foot down (good practice for the Slow Race). Most often I will stop without putting a foot down, unless there is traffic.
Now, if I was teaching someone, I would have to tell them to come to a complete stop and put both feet down and look right - left - right before proceeding. Like I said, "Do as I say, Not as I do" ;)
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Resisting urge to start a thread titled "How do you start?"
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Start by ignoring the thread.
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Maybe I should start a thread titled "Ignore this thread" instead?
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Maybe I should start a thread titled "Ignore this thread" instead?
We couldn't do that if we tried Mike!!! ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)
Hoist! 8)
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Maybe I should start a thread titled "Ignore this thread" instead?
You already did once, but I ignored it anyway...Try again.
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Ok then, I will go back & look at my old "Poll" thread instead.
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When leading a small group, 3-4 bikes. I always put my feet down, look to make sure everyone is together and stopped, then I look to see if we can all get out together, then proceed. What they do after me is up to them, but I'd never blindly pull out into an intersection without making sure for myself that the coast is clear. Now when riding alone, I usually keep my feet on the boards unless heavy traffic.
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I just want to add a note from my first post. Many cops here will pull you over if you place BOTH feet down if it's late at night or the first few hours of the morning (1 to 3am), especially if it's friday/saturday night or Sunday morning. They assume riders are placing both feet down because they have been drinking. The logic is that by placing both feet down it helps to keep balance. Yeah a bit lame, but I've been pulled over for that. Cop was nice enough, apparently didn't have much else to do on a very early saturday morning. Luckily, I don't drink until the bike is locked up for the night.
UJ
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Maybe I should start a thread titled "Ignore this thread" instead?
How about starting a thread of who wears flip flops riding motorcycles?
I find if you get the shifter between your foot and the flip flop it works best.....those shifters are just murder on your bare toes...........
or better yet.....who rides barefoot?
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BA HA!!!!
works for Fred and Barney
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Just my two cents, I think the issue of stopping ( without putting your feet down ) comes from an exercise that is taught by MSF, during the BRC (Beginner riders course); it is called a pause and go. You are instructed to pause between two cones ( without putting your feet down), the relationship to street riding would be you are traveling in heavy stop and go traffic, the idea is you don't have to put your feet down everytime you stop. It by no means is taught as a stop sign technique, but perhaps that was her interpretation of this excercise.
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When we were in York at the GTG,one of our members riding a Blue SEUC² (with the initials V a B) dropped his bike because he did not come to a complete stop behind me. I came up to the intersection at a stop sign and the bikes in front had done a rolling stop. I always come to a complete halt. Out of the corner of my eye I saw the BIG dump truck coming. Well, Mr. Vags saw the bikes in front of me doing the rolling stop and was about to go when he saw me stop. I guess he wasn't prepared for it and all I saw was blue in my rear view mirror going down. No one got injured, but that truck could have done a lot of damage.
Ride your own ride. Don't let the person in front of you influence your decisions. It's your butt that's gonna pay.
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here in SC the law states at least one foot down for a complete stop.
and group riding :nervous: :nervous: that's another issue.
whatever you do, make it safe
TN
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When we were in York at the GTG,one of our members riding a Blue SEUC² (with the initials V a B) dropped his bike because he did not come to a complete stop behind me. I came up to the intersection at a stop sign and the bikes in front had done a rolling stop. I always come to a complete halt. Out of the corner of my eye I saw the BIG dump truck coming. Well, Mr. Vags saw the bikes in front of me doing the rolling stop and was about to go when he saw me stop. I guess he wasn't prepared for it and all I saw was blue in my rear view mirror going down. No one got injured, but that truck could have done a lot of damage.
Ride your own ride. Don't let the person in front of you influence your decisions. It's your butt that's gonna pay.
I agree with you totally !!!
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When we were in York at the GTG,one of our members riding a Blue SEUC² (with the initials V a B) dropped his bike because he did not come to a complete stop behind me. I came up to the intersection at a stop sign and the bikes in front had done a rolling stop. I always come to a complete halt. Out of the corner of my eye I saw the BIG dump truck coming. Well, Mr. Vags saw the bikes in front of me doing the rolling stop and was about to go when he saw me stop. I guess he wasn't prepared for it and all I saw was blue in my rear view mirror going down. No one got injured, but that truck could have done a lot of damage.
Ride your own ride. Don't let the person in front of you influence your decisions. It's your butt that's gonna pay.
Wasn't that was in CHL AJ?
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I find using the brakes seems to be the best way to stop....I 'm just saying...
I always thought on the oldster you just dragged your feet...
I agree however, brakes are about the best thing to stop with. Way better then a wall or some other immovable object.
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couple of points...
I use the brakes to stop. No draggin' the feet to stop for this fellow...
The wife rides up front. Always the least experience up front. It gives us old farts a better example to follow than our own bad habits.
Feet down. period. I keep the feet up for as long as I can just to see how well I do before I start to tilt. Then the feet go down. However, I don't even LOOK for the cross traffic until the feet are down. Just a habit to make myself actually LOOK, (as opposed to to thinking about keeping the bike up while I act like I'm looking and don't really see that rig that's gonna whack my ass...)
JMO, but pretty strongly felt since the day I did it wrong... :oops: won't happen again on my watch...
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I always thought on the oldster you just dragged your feet...
I agree however, brakes are about the best thing to stop with. Way better then a wall or some other immovable object.
I don't care to hit movable objects either...
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Wasn't that was in CHL AJ?
You are correct!
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Ok then, I will go back & look at my old "Poll" thread instead.
start a poll - who uses their feet to stop, who uses their brakes? I am betting half helmet wins.
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I don't care to hit movable objects either...
good point -unless its wearing a thong as is not d00d....
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good point -unless its wearing a thong as is not d00d....
Would all of you just please stop!? There's enough ways listed on this thread.
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Would all of you just please stop!? There's enough ways listed on this thread.
man, I was just finishing my engineering diagrams of an arrestor hook and wire system for intersections.
Guess I will table it.
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Would all of you just please stop!? There's enough ways listed on this thread.
You want to stop how?
Well, how do you want us to stop, that is what I thought this stupit thread was about!
Nevermind, I will ignore it...
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start a poll - who uses their feet to stop, who uses their brakes? I am betting half helmet wins.
I may start a poll but it won't be about using a half helmet to stop vs brakes.
Not sure what it will be about. Most of my threads are not about much, maybe do a poll about that.
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Stop hell.... Close your eyes, scream loud, twist the throttle hard and hang on so tight you suck leather. Rinse and repeat.
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I usually stop by thinking of something gross and disgusting. Or maybe sports, but it doesn't always work. ;)
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W/ all the brilliant minds here it amazes me that nobody has thought to use a rope and anchor. Geesh.
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Stop hell.... Close your eyes, scream loud, twist the throttle hard and hang on so tight you suck leather. Rinse and repeat.
You talking about stopping the bike or bedroom antics? :confused5:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
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I may start a poll but it won't be about using a half helmet to stop vs brakes.
Not sure what it will be about. Most of my threads are not about much, maybe do a poll about that.
Nice poll ya started there... but not really needed. You should stop that. How do you stop that? :nixweiss:
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Nice poll ya started there... but not really needed. You should stop that. How do you stop that? :nixweiss:
Thanks, almost. ;)
Decided not to start a poll on stopping unnecessary polls.
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I may start a poll but it won't be about using a half helmet to stop vs brakes.
Not sure what it will be about. Most of my threads are not about much, maybe do a poll about that.
I vote for a poll on Pole Dancers... Can you start one about Pole Dancers who wear half helmets, or hell any eastern European chicks who wear them?
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I vote for a poll on Pole Dancers... Can you start one about Pole Dancers who wear half helmets, or hell any eastern European chicks who wear them?
I already have a poll with pole dancers.
Nobody replies to it but they look at it & drool apparently.
I'll bump it.
Not sure about the half helmets - full protection is best.
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I already have a poll with pole dancers.
Nobody replies to it but they look at it & drool apparently.
I'll bump it.
Not sure about the half helmets - full protection is best.
maybe
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maybe
Indubitably.
Donut time!
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I already have a poll with pole dancers.
Nobody replies to it but they look at it & drool apparently.
I'll bump it.
Hmmm.... a poll about poles who pole dance while bumping, nice.......
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HELP ... I'm riding and I can't STOP ... :huepfenlol2:
Damn ...
HELP .. I've fallen and I can't GETUP ..