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Smitty2u

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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #120 on: March 16, 2012, 01:35:17 PM »

Ok I've been up for 8 hours now...where's our update? I can only eat so much popcorn.  ;D Looking fwd to the outcome.

So far she's rock solid.  No quirkiness at all.  Hope the weather cooperates this weekend so I can get out for sum serious ride time.

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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #121 on: March 20, 2012, 07:59:58 PM »

Okay Smitty I've been watching the weather up there in Ohio, you should have enough miles on that bike for its tune beyond 4000 rpm mark...  ;)     You know I just have to see that Dyno sheet, your bike is setup to run, and I'm all out of popcorn too!!   ::)
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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #122 on: March 20, 2012, 08:35:23 PM »

Okay Smitty I've been watching the weather up there in Ohio, you should have enough miles on that bike for its tune beyond 4000 rpm mark...  ;)     You know I just have to see that Dyno sheet, your bike is setup to run, and I'm all out of popcorn too!!   ::)

We're getting close to having enough miles, 400 and counting.  I guess I should call my guy and see where she'll fit in his schedule.  I'm wanting to see how she runs after the final tune.  We all know the Dyno sheet is not the "Holy Grail", but it's what we all look at as a measure of success.  So far i'm having @$$ puckering fun...... :jalapeno:
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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #123 on: March 20, 2012, 09:10:41 PM »

Smitty,glad your happy with the build so far.I am chomping at the bit for mine to be done.Supposed to be this week.It was eighty degrees today in NH and my wife was gracious enough to let me take her bike for a ride.1st time since the knee replacement. I am going mental waiting for this to be done.Good luck to you.Fred
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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #124 on: March 20, 2012, 09:13:22 PM »

Smitty,glad your happy with the build so far.I am chomping at the bit for mine to be done.Supposed to be this week.It was eighty degrees today in NH and my wife was gracious enough to let me take her bike for a ride.1st time since the knee replacement. I am going mental waiting for this to be done.Good luck to you.Fred

I understand how it feels.  My scooter was out of comish from dec 24th til march 13th.  It was a kid on Christmas eve.   Good luck to you as well.  I'll look forward to hearing about your results.
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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #125 on: March 25, 2012, 03:42:25 PM »

Well I've got 600 miles on her now.  Gonna drop her off for the final tune on April 1st.  I'll followup with the Dyno results as soon as they're in. 
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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #126 on: March 26, 2012, 03:57:33 PM »

That's not an April fools joke is it? ;D     Soo does that mean when you get it back you can run above 4k rpm?   :bananarock:
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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #127 on: March 26, 2012, 04:18:43 PM »

That's not an April fools joke is it? ;D     Soo does that mean when you get it back you can run above 4k rpm?   :bananarock:

No Aprils Fools..... She will be good to the rev limit of 6200 and that should be fun!
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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #128 on: April 13, 2012, 10:44:41 PM »

Well finally got her back.  Now I can get back to some riding.  Here's the Dyno sheet after the final tune.  I think she turned out quite well, but that's just my opinion.
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Cylinders 4.060 Bore
Timekin Bearing
SE 58mm TB
SE 5.3 grms/sec injectors
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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #129 on: April 14, 2012, 06:01:36 AM »

Why is it that it seems no matter what the build, decreasing TQ crosses increasing hP @ 5500?.

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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #130 on: April 14, 2012, 07:05:47 AM »

Smitty,
  Nice graph!  Hope you're piling on the miles with this screamer!

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  Horsepower figures are actually derived from torque and RPM readings, so you'll see the graphs cross at 5252 RPM. Someone posted a detailed explanation onit.
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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #131 on: April 14, 2012, 07:25:53 AM »

Horsepower equals torqueXrpm(where max torque occurs) divided by 5252 always. If you see a graph where they don't cross at 5252 it's because the scaling is not the same on both sides of the graph.
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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #132 on: April 14, 2012, 10:28:22 AM »

I watch the Revolution Performance you tube videos and was going to ask them about stock CVO engine parts but Smitty, it looks like you may have answered that in your signature. I'm wondering if there are any engine parts in a stock 110 that are found in the SE catalog. Since you've listed specific parts with SE I'm guessing that our engines use plane jane parts and not hi-zoot stuff in the SE catalog. I was hoping that a lot of stuff would have been included but maybe not. So what about the 120R, does those use better rods, crank, lifters, pistons, heads etc. I'm tossing around the idea of building a 124 but will H-D sell you just the case without turning in your old cases? Like can I purchase case # 24601-10a and flywheel set 23893-10a and build from there. It would be cheaper to buy the complete engine but I'd still want to have it balanced, welded and blueprinted and wonder about cost savings on having a 120R sent to a shop like Rev Perf etc or send component parts? Probably close either way I guess.
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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #133 on: April 14, 2012, 10:46:29 AM »

I watch the Revolution Performance you tube videos and was going to ask them about stock CVO engine parts but Smitty, it looks like you may have answered that in your signature. I'm wondering if there are any engine parts in a stock 110 that are found in the SE catalog. Since you've listed specific parts with SE I'm guessing that our engines use plane jane parts and not hi-zoot stuff in the SE catalog. I was hoping that a lot of stuff would have been included but maybe not. So what about the 120R, does those use better rods, crank, lifters, pistons, heads etc. I'm tossing around the idea of building a 124 but will H-D sell you just the case without turning in your old cases? Like can I purchase case # 24601-10a and flywheel set 23893-10a and build from there. It would be cheaper to buy the complete engine but I'd still want to have it balanced, welded and blueprinted and wonder about cost savings on having a 120R sent to a shop like Rev Perf etc or send component parts? Probably close either way I guess.

I think pretty much the only things on the original 110 motor that's actually high performance are the heads.  I believe the 120R has the SE racing parts already there.  I'm certain Harley will sell whatever you want to buy if you want to build one from scratch.  I would ask why you would not just upgrade the one you have, keeping the same VIN's matching or buy the 120R as opposed to building one entirely from scratch?  I don't know about having the motor blueprinted.  The SE 4 5/8" crank is a much better crank.  I was told by my builder that balancing was not necessary, just have it trued in a jig and welded so that's the route we went..
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Re: SE 110 Upgrade - T Man
« Reply #134 on: April 14, 2012, 12:28:04 PM »

Horsepower equals torqueXrpm(where max torque occurs) divided by 5252 always. If you see a graph where they don't cross at 5252 it's because the scaling is not the same on both sides of the graph.




But with a dyno, the horsepower figure is made up out of thin air, then the formula is used in reverse to derive the torque.  Weird, I know...
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