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A dumb question wondering, if anyone can give input on securely attatching the tie downs my S.E.S.G. when transporting, are there any good options to save the paint? Tried a couple ways and not comfortable with on bars or frame down tubes below tank. Open to any and all input thanks.
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Have these on mine. Found the pic using Google.
http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/kuryakyn-custom-tie-down-brackets-for-harley-touring-2014-2016
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A dumb question wondering, if anyone can give input on securely attatching the tie downs my S.E.S.G. when transporting, are there any good options to save the paint? Tried a couple ways and not comfortable with on bars or frame down tubes below tank. Open to any and all input thanks.
http://www.harley-davidson.com/store/chrome-tie-down-brackets
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Has anyone ever gotten around to making a tie down bracket for the rear as well?
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These work great!
http://www.turnoverball.com/products/biker-bar/biker-bar-product
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These work great!
http://www.turnoverball.com/products/biker-bar/biker-bar-product
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I'm sad to say I've hauled far too many miles, big heavy bikes. Here is my routine:
Use Soft-Ties on the handle bars and good locking tiedowns on the front. Then tie the wheel to the wheel chock firmly.
Use soft-ties and go from front down tube sideways.
Put a block behind the back wheel and hold it in place with a bungy cord.
Go from rear foot peg/board mount rearward.
Thats six tiedowns none of which are overly tight.
PS this trailer is for sale $700.
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I use a tie down anchor bracket supplied by Kiwi Indian. It does a great job.
http://media.wix.com/ugd/eb7f15_b82d9816336afd1880154b90939d517d.pdf
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I made these to suit the Kuryakyn tie downs I have on the front.
Made 2 set, Wasn't sure which would look better so I Chrome plated one set and got the other set Powder coated to suit the frame. Chrome looked better though.
(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo102/antongrech/FLHXSE3/IMG_0897_zps638vvxp3.jpg)
(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo102/antongrech/FLHXSE3/image_zps343b0101.jpg)
(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo102/antongrech/FLHXSE3/image_zpsd004e262.jpg)
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Impressive!!!! Want to sell the black powder coated???
I made these to suit the Kuryakyn tie downs I have on the front.
Made 2 set, Wasn't sure which would look better so I Chrome plated one set and got the other set Powder coated to suit the frame. Chrome looked better though.
(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo102/antongrech/FLHXSE3/IMG_0897_zps638vvxp3.jpg)
(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo102/antongrech/FLHXSE3/image_zps343b0101.jpg)
(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo102/antongrech/FLHXSE3/image_zpsd004e262.jpg)
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I made these to suit the Kuryakyn tie downs I have on the front.
Made 2 set, Wasn't sure which would look better so I Chrome plated one set and got the other set Powder coated to suit the frame. Chrome looked better though.
Wow those are nice! You could make some money with those!
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Wow those are nice! You could make some money with those!
Agreed!!! I would buy a set
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Agreed!!! I would buy a set
I'm in for a set...maybe 2. When you starting production?
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Very nice Joe, I would buy a set of them tomorrow if you decide to manufacturer.
Sorry but I totally disagree with Rodrunner above. Never good to tie to rubber mounted handlebars, Never good to use tie downs pulling to the rear, this only would pull the bike out of the front chock if the front tie downs fail. Good idea to use six tiedowns for sure, but I just do not think your way is good.
I also have towed bikes, boats, race cars, wrecked cars etc for a lot of miles. Made a living doing it for awhile and sorry to say your way, if a catastrophe were to occur will only do damage to the bike. IMHO.
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Had to build a few prototypes to get them right and look as if they were not an add on, these mounts do not stand out and blend in nicely.
Designed to suit my 2012 SG, not sure if they will fit the new frame.
Happy to pass on the blue prints to those that wants to make them for CVO forum members only.
If you know a Laser cutter business that is on the forum maybe they can chime in to help with the Laser cutting to reduce cost.
L/H and R/H sides have different profiles and bends.
PM me if interested.
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I would take a set of Black ones if they fit the 17's.
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Aussie and I have shared PM's and after he returns from Holiday will be sending me the Blueprints, I will then take to my friends shop to get an idea of cost and all. Afterwards I thought I would start a post getting an idea of interested members, from that will be able to get quanity pricing to determine real cost numbers to all.
Let's hope there is interest enough to make this inexpensive for all vs too costly.
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Very nice Joe, I would buy a set of them tomorrow if you decide to manufacturer.
Sorry but I totally disagree with Rodrunner above. Never good to tie to rubber mounted handlebars, Never good to use tie downs pulling to the rear, this only would pull the bike out of the front chock if the front tie downs fail. Good idea to use six tiedowns for sure, but I just do not think your way is good.
I also have towed bikes, boats, race cars, wrecked cars etc for a lot of miles. Made a living doing it for awhile and sorry to say your way, if a catastrophe were to occur will only do damage to the bike. IMHO.
Thanks for the input....
The front wheel is securely tied to the front chaulk, and the rear wheel is blocked. It actually gets tighter as I drive. The handlebar tiedowns are not very tight because it conpresses the springs too much. The front down tube ties augment the handlebar ties. The rear ties are for lateral support, to keep the two bikes from banging into each other in the event of a minor event.
I had a car pull out in front of me near Lamar CO a few years back. I was loaded with two Ultras, I was going ~60mph. I swerved into the oncomming lane but the trailer caught the front of the Toyota. Ripped off the right fender of the trailer, bent the axle back, ruined the wheel and tire. Totaled the Toyota.
Bikes didn't move. Tow truck operator just pulled the trailer and bikes and all up onto his flatbed.
This works for me and I have confidance in this system.
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I would be interested in a set for my 16 sg and my wife's 13 sg if these get made.
Kevin
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Hi everyone,
Thank you for all of the good tie down information I have been having difficulty with securing my `15 Street Glide for transport since purchase. My `05 Electra Glide did not have lowers and was a breez to put the tie downs on. You guys have provided a lot of great information thanks!
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I'm interested in two sets, one chrome the other black PC
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Im in for a set of chrome. 2012 SESG
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I'll only need one set...in chrome......do they work with rear floor boards? They look like they will.
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I'll only need one set...in chrome......do they work with rear floor boards? They look like they will.
These were designed to suit a 2012 frame so you will need to check if mounting holes are the same on 2013 and later frames.
Yes they will work with rear floor boards but a slight modification will be required.
Bottom bolt will need to be replaced with a countersunk bolt, these holes can be countersunk before Chrome plating.
Standard passengers peg brackets are fixed with one bolt, Two bolts will be required when using rear tie brackets to eliminate axle load on top bolts.
Floor board bracket shown with bottom hole that requires a counter sunk bolt?
(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo102/antongrech/FLHXSE3/IMG_0916_zpshtc7nxfi.jpg)
Standard foot peg bracket showing bolts required to fix bracket, top bolt will need to be replaced with a bolt 1/4" longer to ensure full thread engagement.
(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo102/antongrech/FLHXSE3/IMG_0913_zpsgkskxlw4.jpg) (http://s366.photobucket.com/user/antongrech/media/FLHXSE3/IMG_0913_zpsgkskxlw4.jpg.html)
(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo102/antongrech/FLHXSE3/IMG_0914_zpsomhpe87l.jpg)
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I need these!
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let me know what the cost probably take a set in black and chrome
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Its been an extremely busy week.. I spoke with shop today and they will let me know in a day or two hopefully some cost's associated with fabrication and coatings.
I will keep you posted and hope to have some good news shortly..
If this does work out and there is enough interest, I will be posting in the Group Buy section... Stay tuned
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Its been an extremely busy week.. I spoke with shop today and they will let me know in a day or two hopefully some cost's associated with fabrication and coatings.
I will keep you posted and hope to have some good news shortly..
If this does work out and there is enough interest, I will be posting in the Group Buy section... Stay tuned
Thanks for taking this on for me your end Joe.
Shipping from AU to the US is where it will kill the cost vs making them in the US.
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Add one more to the interest list
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Hello,
I was wondering if the brackets attached to the front forks would also be sufficient for Ferry crossings. At the moment I use straps over the top of my bike across the seat but it makes an ugly mark on the seat which I resolve by leaving my jacket over the seat before fastening the strap. Seems like a plaster on top of a plaster and leaves my jacket exposed for anybody with a disrespectful attitude towards an another man's property.
The brackets would seem like a perfect solution but if was wondering if it would be enough on a rough crossing.
thanks
Vincent
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Update, I have heard back from my machine shop. They are able powder coat these in black or, a chrome powder coating with clear coat on top to give them a gloss finish (not a chrome mirror finish) but are not able to provide the chrome. They are going to fab a set up for me to verify fitment on my bike as well as I will be taking to my dealer friend and trying on a few other model years as well. I have asked a chroming facility near me what the cost of doing the plating but honestly I have a feeling between fabrication and chroming, it may be expensive.
I should have some numbers back by end of next week and also I will know about chroming and what they will fit... Stay Tuned!!!
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Look what I found at Eastern Performance.
http://www.easternperformance.com/yelvington-usa-black-rear-tie-down-brackets-for-harley-touring-93-17.html?utm_source=Copy+of+Campaign+Created+2017%2F01%2F20%2C+9%3A04+AM&utm_campaign=New+Email+Template&utm_medium=email
Yelvington USA Black Rear Tie Down Brackets for Harley Touring 93-17 $39.95
SKU: YEL-HF-RBOTD
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Bought a set of the Yelvington rear tie-down brackets today from Eastern, got an email this morning from them. I walked thru the Yelvington Tent last sunday at Gibtown BikeFest but did not notice the tie-downs.
We will see when they get here, only $40 with free shipping and no tax.
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Those chrome ones really look great! Keep us posted on if they'll fit '17's and in chrome if possible.
The one thing I hate when I trailer my bike is tieng down the rear. Just no good place to hook onto that avoids the exhaust if the straps have to stay in close to the bike. If I can spread the straps outwards a good amount, the holes in the frame right behind the rear head offers the best stability and keeps the straps away from teh bike.
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Bought a set of the Yelvington rear tie-down brackets today from Eastern, got an email this morning from them. I walked thru the Yelvington Tent last sunday at Gibtown BikeFest but did not notice the tie-downs.
We will see when they get here, only $40 with free shipping and no tax.
I am going to try a set also.....$40..why not.
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Well Gents... I can share that I have not received the set for trial yet, the vendor has informed me they do not do chrome and the vendor I sent a request to is not interested. The Black Powder coated will be roughly 55.00 by the time all said and done plus the shipping cost.
This may be a good alternative. http://www.easternperformance.com/yelvington-usa-black-rear-tie-down-brackets-for-harley-touring-93-17.html?utm_source=Copy+of+Campaign+Created+2017%2F01%2F20%2C+9%3A04+AM&utm_campaign=New+Email+Template&utm_medium=email
One can not compete with mass production!
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Update......
I have been working with my local fab shop and after several attempts he is just capable of getting it right. I have been communicating with Aussie and shared the results, not sure but the shop may just not have the proper tooling to create the same product.
At this moment not sure of the next move. Aussie and I have been discussing some options.
Don't want to promise a product that isn't right, (as I found out locally my guy can't produce) nor something that is truly to expensive.
I will update shortly when we have a possible soulution that is not cost prohibitive.
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Thanks for the update. As a tool and diemaker that uses CNC mills and lathes every day, I can see the largest hurdle will be to make them at a cost thats makes them a sellable item. I'm waiting to see what you end up with before making a set myself. There isnt much to them. Will take me longer to take measurements and make up a print than to actually cut them out on the CNC and toss them in the press. and send out for plating. Be costly in the end but for a high quality factory look to fit the bike, gotta pay for it and be worth it. The yelvingtons just look too generic for me. Keeps us updated.
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Thanks for the update. As a tool and diemaker that uses CNC mills and lathes every day, I can see the largest hurdle will be to make them at a cost thats makes them a sellable item. I'm waiting to see what you end up with before making a set myself. There isnt much to them. Will take me longer to take measurements and make up a print than to actually cut them out on the CNC and toss them in the press. and send out for plating. Be costly in the end but for a high quality factory look to fit the bike, gotta pay for it and be worth it. The yelvingtons just look too generic for me. Keeps us updated.
Its the bend/fold that my local guy is having issues with...Cutting them is not the issue. Its a extremely tight tolerance for the bend and he was having issues with distortion.
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As I posted in the other thread, the black Yelvingtons basically disappear once installed. Cheap, easy to install, I would buy again.
I tied bike down with them just to see. SO much easier than before. Guys from Condor have for years said to tie bike down from the location that the Yelvingtons provides and that was all you needed. Not sure I agree with that but they do secure the rear nicely and quickly.
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Its the bend/fold that my local guy is having issues with...Cutting them is not the issue. Its a extremely tight tolerance for the bend and he was having issues with distortion.
Thanks for the update Joe,
us1fountain,
I agree on the high quality factory look, these brackets are made to suit the CVO look and don't stand out as much as the Yelvingtons do plus no catch points.
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Spent a few hrs at work and cut out a couple tie downs myself. Like Aussie, I copied the profile of my front HD tie downs for a matched set look. Luckliy the profile was nominal dimensions so it was an easy to copy and program. The mounts on my '17 may be a bit different than what my '15 was. I recall the '15 just using 1 screw and 1 pin, where as my '17 uses 3) 3/8" -16 and 1) 5/16-18 screw. The 5/16 is a shoulder bolt in the bottom hole, with the 3/8's holes used for height adjustment. I 'want' to say they are not an exact fit between yrs??? On mine, the wife uses the top location, so I made the mounts just with 2 holes leaving out the 2nd and 4th hole and will not reuse the shoulder bolt (4th hole location) and instead will use 2) 3/8 bolts. More solid this way too.
These I made from some scrape 3/16" 304 SS, milled out on the CNC. Bending was a PITA! Had to really clamp it solid so it wouldn't roll and distort. The bending is the obstacle if you don't have the right equipement. Our brake proved to be a little lacking. And for just the 1 set, you improvise. LOL Nevermind the swirl marks, and distorted appearance. Those are just from a quick pass over from a scotchbrite pad on die grinder to get a smooth surface. Going to a chrome plater this weekend. $50 min fee for plating.
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Spent a few hrs at work and cut out a couple tie downs myself. Like Aussie, I copied the profile of my front HD tie downs for a matched set look. Luckliy the profile was nominal dimensions so it was an easy to copy and program. The mounts on my '17 may be a bit different than what my '15 was. I recall the '15 just using 1 screw and 1 pin, where as my '17 uses 3) 3/8" -16 and 1) 5/16-18 screw. The 5/16 is a shoulder bolt in the bottom hole, with the 3/8's holes used for height adjustment. I 'want' to say they are not an exact fit between yrs??? On mine, the wife uses the top location, so I made the mounts just with 2 holes leaving out the 2nd and 4th hole and will not reuse the shoulder bolt (4th hole location) and instead will use 2) 3/8 bolts. More solid this way too.
These I made from some scrape 3/16" 304 SS, milled out on the CNC. Bending was a PITA! Had to really clamp it solid so it wouldn't roll and distort. The bending is the obstacle if you don't have the right equipement. Our brake proved to be a little lacking. And for just the 1 set, you improvise. LOL Nevermind the swirl marks, and distorted appearance. Those are just from a quick pass over from a scotchbrite pad on die grinder to get a smooth surface. Going to a chrome plater this weekend. $50 min fee for plating.
Looking good.
Plating can be expensive when it's a 1 off.
Did you try the brackets on and check the clearance to side cover. You may need to bend a little more so tie hook is further away from your side cover. Just a thought also best to have two bolts to aid torsional load on brackets.
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Yes, I knew the plating would be alot higher than if done in a batch but I'll only have $50 in these that match my front ones in both style and plating, vs $40 for the black ones that are basic in design. I'd easily payed 5x as much if thats what it took to get them done. Yep on the 2 bolts. Thus the reasoning I'm not using the shoulder bolts and going with 2 vs 1 3/8" bolt. Good and solid. Only drawback is the right side. The exhaust is still in the way, cant go straight down to my hold downs on my trailer, so have to angle over to the hold down for the other bike. Left side works like a charm. Don't want straps rubbing on exhaust.
Thanks for your contribution to this topic. Something I kicked around, just never had the motivation until I saw yours. Will post up pics when plated.
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Update..
US1, your findings are exactly what I found yesterday when I tried fitting up a pair to my bike. Yes they will work but, each case might vary depending on year and such.........
As us1 mentioned about the mounting on a '17 vs previous years, its a bit different.
One being the bottom bolt being a shoulder bolt. To hard mount this to the frame one needs to utilize the mounting holes above which are 3/8" and in doing so you eliminate the ability to adjust travel up and down as designed for adjustment/passenger comfort.
Two the relocated Cat in the head pipe certainly changes the angle of the actual ratchet strap you would use, as he noted you need to extend your tie down point on trailer floor to opposite side of trailer or your going to ratchet down hard on the exhaust. Not Good
With these two "important findings" it is not going to be easy to come up with a design that will multi fit different years, maintain the features of the current rear footpeg adjustments and ensure they are mounted to prevent damage to exhaust when utilizing the tie downs.
With this I have to share I am not moving forward with getting a run of these units fabricated for forum members. I did try and actually found a vendor who could, and for a good price, fabricate (black powder coating only) but sadly after yesterday's findings as well as US1's additional input....As they say on Shark Tank "I am Out"
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Got the brackets back from plating. Ended up making a couple of spacers that will allow the lower bolts to clamp down on the mounts. As they are from HD, the lower bolt is a shoulder bolt and simply goes in the slot of the mount, but doesn't tighten down on it, allowing the mount to adj up/down. The top bolt is what tightens the mount down. My way utilizes both bolts for securing the mounts and brackets tight. The slot isnt wide enough for a washer or lockwasher, plus there just isnt' enough material in the mount to clamp down on, thus my spacers/washers that are sized to clamp down on most of the mount.(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w384/us1fountain/IMG_4734_zpsaidpmgja.jpg)[/URL[URL=http://s1073.photobucket.com/user/us1fountain/media/IMG_4735_zpsd6hdn4n4.jpg.html](http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w384/us1fountain/IMG_4735_zpsd6hdn4n4.jpg)[URL=http://s1073.photobucket.com/user/us1fountain/media/IMG_4736_zpsqrhiqjng.jpg.html](http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w384/us1fountain/IMG_4736_zpsqrhiqjng.jpg) (http://s1073.photobucket.com/user/us1fountain/media/IMG_4734_zpsaidpmgja.jpg.html)
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US1, Nicely Done... ingenuity at its finest with the spacer.
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They look great, nice work :2vrolijk_21:
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Very nice :2vrolijk_21:
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Have these on mine. Found the pic using Google.
http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/kuryakyn-custom-tie-down-brackets-for-harley-touring-2014-2016
I have these on my 2003 Road King Classic and my 2012 CVO Street Glide!! clean look and will not bend!!! I see people driving 80 with bikes tied down to crash bars!!!! >:(
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These are the Yelvington brackets for the rear. Had to modify them slightly to clear the exhaust, but otherwise work fine. Ride solo on the road king which is why there is no rear foot pegs, but have same brackets on road glide. Works either way.
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You know you can just take two loop straps and go around the fork tubes above the fender mounts and pull down tight and not have to use anything else? Plus the bike will ride on its suspension. I run a towing business and we've always trailer bikes this way. I have trailered my bike countless times like this. I sometimes wrap a microfiber towel around chrome forks to prevent the strap from dulling anything. Then just put a couple in the rear to keep from hopping side to side.
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Yaffe has some front tie down brackets that will work on E/G and R/G bikes, about $70 retail. They are a simple bent piece of steel with a couple of, what looks like, grade 8 bolts to replace the fuel tank front mounting bolts. I personally use the Kiwi Indian Bracket on my RG, it is a one piece "U" shaped bracket that replaces the front fuel tank mounting bolts as well as the upper center crash bar mounting bolt. I was leary when I ordered it, but it has now been on two bikes and is better thought out than I originally thought, and works well. IN the rear I now use the Yelvington Brackets.
Easy peasy.
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Yaffe has some front tie down brackets that will work on E/G and R/G bikes, about $70 retail. They are a simple bent piece of steel with a couple of, what looks like, grade 8 bolts to replace the fuel tank front mounting bolts. I personally use the Kiwi Indian Bracket on my RG, it is a one piece "U" shaped bracket that replaces the front fuel tank mounting bolts as well as the upper center crash bar mounting bolt. I was leary when I ordered it, but it has now been on two bikes and is better thought out than I originally thought, and works well. IN the rear I now use the Yelvington Brackets.
Easy peasy.
here's a video of these brackets https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SdoC7SxB6x0&feature=youtu.be