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Title: 2014 CVO Ultra to 2017 CVO Streetglide
Post by: oe542bob on May 10, 2017, 12:19:08 PM
Hi all. Considering moving to a '17 FLHXSE from my '14 CVO Ultra. I have test ridden the Streetglide and was ready to pull the trigger.
Pros are styling and ease of moving it around on foot.
Cons are no heated hand grips & seat. ( Got really use to these )
Question for anyone who has gone from the Ultra to the SG. When riding two up, is it still comfortable? I really like my Ultra so no real complaints there.
With my BSR and me the weight is around 300 lbs.
Better half wouldn't ride with me during the test ride since there was no backrest.
So I'm not sure how it would ride 2 up.
Title: Re: 2014 CVO Ultra to 2017 CVO Streetglide
Post by: Boatman on May 10, 2017, 01:09:39 PM
 Just buy the detachable tour pack kit for your 14.  Around $550
12" shocks won't ride as good as your 14.  Hardly a better stock seat than the cvo limited.  Is the 17 worth 20k difference? Your money and decision. 
Title: Re: 2014 CVO Ultra to 2017 CVO Streetglide
Post by: CVOSGJoe on May 10, 2017, 02:22:07 PM
Agreed with the above, if it were not for my misses riding her own, requiring more two up riding on my bike, I would certainly consider an Ultra vs SG.

Title: Re: 2014 CVO Ultra to 2017 CVO Streetglide
Post by: bjspearman04 on May 10, 2017, 08:35:12 PM
Agree, as well.  Have both platforms, my wife will ride all day on the Ultra.  Hates the SG.  Made me promise not to put her back on the SG. 
Title: Re: 2014 CVO Ultra to 2017 CVO Streetglide
Post by: mark on May 10, 2017, 09:45:46 PM
The SG just isn't the Cadillac of touring like the Ultra.  I now have my first bike with a heated seat and grips...you'll miss those creature comforts.  As far as riding two up...no, it isn't going to be as comfortable as the Ultra unless you add passenger floorboards, tour pak, better seat, etc.
Title: Re: 2014 CVO Ultra to 2017 CVO Streetglide
Post by: SDCVO on May 11, 2017, 12:09:00 AM
I added heated grips to my SG. Agree once you have them don't want to be without
Title: Re: 2014 CVO Ultra to 2017 CVO Streetglide
Post by: oe542bob on May 11, 2017, 06:24:18 AM
Thanks for all the replies. Pretty much felt like I'd be giving up too much that the Ultra has. Kinda once you have it, it's hard to go back. I'm thinking now I just might try a shorter set of shocks on the back and see how it rides.
As Boatman stated about the removable TP, I had done that soon after I got the Ultra. Guess what, I hardly ever even take it off! But I can if I want.
Best part too, I almost have it paid off. Either this month or next, I'll have the title! WooHoo!
Ride safe, Bob F
Title: Re: 2014 CVO Ultra to 2017 CVO Streetglide
Post by: ultrarider123 on May 11, 2017, 07:42:56 AM
If it's shocks only that are scaring you off the SG, I replaced the stock air shocks on my '15 with the 12" Premium HD shocks which lowered it about 3/4 of an inch and made it a more planted bike and the ride improved 10 fold either single or two up.  Going over bumps/RR tracks are now a breeze and no bottoming.  We are about the same weight as you mentioned two up.

The other creature comforts are another story.  I had never had a heated seat or grips on any previous bike HD or otherwise.  The heated grips are a great invention.  I can take or leave the heated seat (I don't use the heated seats in the cage either) but my wife uses it often.  I've had two Street Glides (one CVO, one not) and I really missed the Tourpac on both.  I'm not sure I would do another SESG or any bike without the Tourpac or heated grips but I've learned never to say never.  If I were going non CVO, I would be more inclined to add things like this VS. adding them to a bike already more than $10,000 over the cost of a stock unit. 
Title: Re: 2014 CVO Ultra to 2017 CVO Streetglide
Post by: RGlideKid on May 11, 2017, 10:40:50 AM
In my mind, the SG and the Ultra are somewhat two different bikes.  The Ultra is made more for two-up comfort and for longer rides; weekends and such.
The SG is more of a crossover to me, with the front looks of a tourer, but it's more of a hot rod to me, being low slung and with no tourpak.
If you want two-up comfort with the convenience of a tourpak and a plusher ride, then either stay with the Ultra or upgrade to a new one.  Heck you can always make the tourpak detachable if that's the look you're after.  Me, I use the tourpak every time I go out, and the wife loves it.
If you want the lower slung look of the SG (which is undoubtedly cool) with the Milwaukee 8 engine, then get one - if the money difference makes sense to you.  If you don't like the shocks, then do as Howard suggests above and switch them out.
Title: Re: 2014 CVO Ultra to 2017 CVO Streetglide
Post by: cb311asu on May 11, 2017, 11:28:45 AM
I went from a '15 Limited CVO to '17 Street Glide CVO.  I couldn't be happier.  I love the look of the street glide with the stretched bags and lowered stance.

I gave up some of the creature comforts like the heated seat, heated grips, plusher ride, and CB, but for me it was worth it.

I also spent the money to have a detachable tour pak for when the wife and I go on trips, but most of the time it just hangs in the garage.

 
Title: Re: 2014 CVO Ultra to 2017 CVO Streetglide
Post by: bakon on May 11, 2017, 09:31:26 PM
I have had both. At same time. Cross country on both. Not 17 but had 35 k in the SG when done.  Had 113 hp and nice paint. Progressive suspension and was a nice ride  BUT Limited wins hands down except at the bar bike night down the block. . In every category.
Then add in the wife and the SG stays parked. Only the limited for any trip longer than two miles to bike night.
Title: Re: 2014 CVO Ultra to 2017 CVO Streetglide
Post by: Supershooter on May 11, 2017, 10:38:45 PM
I traded a 2010 SEUC for a 2011 SESG two falls ago, we averaged 7500 miles a year mostly put on in one big trip each year. I was smitten with the SG and had to have it. I had spent a fair amount of money on mods for Ultra, and never realized how much difference there were between the two models until I traded. Some of the creature comforts we had, we added to the SG, but beauty fads and function remains. I don't plan to sell this SG but probably won't buy another unless something changes.

I had issues with my Ultra be too tall also, so we dropped it an inch with progressive suspension in the front and back, it made a huge difference and the bike handled so much better I couldn't hardly believe it was the same bike.

If you are happy with the Limited I'd make the tour peak removable and stay with it. If your intriguied by the M8 trade into a 17 Limited

Just my $0.02

Supershooter
Title: Re: 2014 CVO Ultra to 2017 CVO Streetglide
Post by: 2soaper on May 12, 2017, 10:28:36 AM
Maybe its been mentioned already but adding heated grips to the CVO Street Glide is not a big deal the wiring harness installed on them is the same as the Limited and Ultra.  Just remove the old factory grips and plug in the new heated grips.
Title: Re: 2014 CVO Ultra to 2017 CVO Streetglide
Post by: 1roadking on May 12, 2017, 07:55:01 PM
I added a heated Corbin for 2 up riding, heated grips and running lights.  If you add a tour pack and 13 inch shocks you end up with a streetglide ultra lol. Same bikes different styling. I really like the look and feel of the streetglide with my solo seat when I'm alone.
Title: Re: 2014 CVO Ultra to 2017 CVO Streetglide
Post by: FLSTFI Dave on May 13, 2017, 08:39:27 AM
I added the heated grips the first week I had the new CVO Street Glide.  I prefer the styling of the street glide bags and rear end to the ultra.  I have toured lots on non ultras, I usually put 20k plus miles a year on my bikes. 
Title: Re: 2014 CVO Ultra to 2017 CVO Streetglide
Post by: Cvostu on May 13, 2017, 10:24:59 AM
I'll take the comforts anytime.  I always keep the tp on. Love heated grips and the better ride.  Just my. 02. Stuart
Title: Re: 2014 CVO Ultra to 2017 CVO Streetglide
Post by: Supershooter on May 13, 2017, 09:47:29 PM
Maybe its been mentioned already but adding heated grips to the CVO Street Glide is not a big deal the wiring harness installed on them is the same as the Limited and Ultra.  Just remove the old factory grips and plug in the new heated grips.
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This is true on 14 and later bikes, pre 14's without Canbus, heated grips can be a PIA. And pricey.

Supershooter

Title: Re: 2014 CVO Ultra to 2017 CVO Streetglide
Post by: Supershooter on May 13, 2017, 09:52:46 PM
I added a heated Corbin for 2 up riding, heated grips and running lights.  If you add a tour pack and 13 inch shocks you end up with a streetglide ultra lol. Same bikes different styling. I really like the look and feel of the streetglide with my solo seat when I'm alone.
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That's what I thought but my Ultra had more goddies than I gave it credit for, I didn't realize it until after it was gone. I'll probably buy function over fashion next time....maybe I'm a sucker for the pretty ones.

Supershooter
Title: Re: 2014 CVO Ultra to 2017 CVO Streetglide
Post by: FLSTFI Dave on May 14, 2017, 08:16:28 AM
I'll take the comforts anytime.  I always keep the tp on. Love heated grips and the better ride.  Just my. 02. Stuart

Guess thats why they make different bikes.  After two CVO road glides, a 09 and a 12 I got the 15 CVO Road Glide ultra.  It was so loose in the curves I thought there was something wrong with the bike, Dealer said nothing wrong.  I spent 1500 miles trying to dial in the rear shocks, never could get them like I liked.  Put a set of Ohlins on it then handled as good or better than the 09 and 12, and nice a firm the way I like it.  Had the tour pack off unless I was on a two night or longer trip, and in Dec, Jan and Feb for winter riding gear.
Title: Re: 2014 CVO Ultra to 2017 CVO Streetglide
Post by: oe542bob on May 17, 2017, 12:48:32 PM
I have had both. At same time. Cross country on both. Not 17 but had 35 k in the SG when done.  Had 113 hp and nice paint. Progressive suspension and was a nice ride  BUT Limited wins hands down except at the bar bike night down the block. . In every category.
Then add in the wife and the SG stays parked. Only the limited for any trip longer than two miles to bike night.
Bakon, you mentioned Progressive shocks. Do you think if I went with 944's, I may get a slightly lower stance. At least that's how the Progressive ad reads. Mostly made up my mind to keep my '14, so now I'm looking at just changing out the rear shocks.
Title: Re: 2014 CVO Ultra to 2017 CVO Streetglide
Post by: Supershooter on May 17, 2017, 09:42:55 PM
I used 940's on my SEUC and was able to lower the rear end one inch. I also used progressive suspension monotubes to lower the front so I would keep the geometry the same. It also help lower the seat height one inch by lowering the front and back. The Monotubes greatly improved the handling of the bike.
Supershooter