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Sean M Cary

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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2008, 09:31:43 PM »
Quote from: DCFIREMANN on August 04, 2008, 07:17:49 PM
You are not bugging me at all. We are here to help. One other thing you may to keep an eye on. If you pump the motor up, please do your motor a favor and do the timken conversion.

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thanks, next winter when I am back in the land of the sorta snow/cold (NoVa) I intend to take it down, do the Gear Driven or upgraded tensioners and cams.  Now that I now about it I also want to add the Timken Bearing.  Planning on the 575 cams, SE Cam plate, Fueling oil pump and new push rods.

I am more interested in longevity then hopping it up...

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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2008, 09:38:59 PM »
Quote from: Florida Marine on August 04, 2008, 09:31:43 PM
thanks, next winter when I am back in the land of the sorta snow/cold (NoVa) I intend to take it down, do the Gear Driven or upgraded tensioners and cams.  Now that I now about it I also want to add the Timken Bearing.  Planning on the 575 cams, SE Cam plate, Fueling oil pump and new push rods.

I am more interested in longevity then hopping it up...

Sean



Sean, the Timken supports the crank, and is machined (or with a Jim's kit) in the case. The crank is inside the cases. You'll be rebuilding an entire engine to do the Timken. Is it recommended? Absolutely! That's what I did to my new 110. But just wanna make sure you knew what you were in for! ;)

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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2008, 09:40:05 PM »
Quote from: Hoist! on August 04, 2008, 09:38:59 PM
Sean, the Timken supports the crank, and is machined (or with a Jim's kit) in the case. The crank is inside the cases. You'll be rebuilding an entire engine to do the Timken. Is it recommended? Absolutely! That's what I did to my new 110. But just wanna make sure you knew what you were in for! ;)

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Doh!  I guess I am confusing that with the support that goes inside the primary case - Hogasm and Twolane were discussing it few weeks back.  Now that I think about it, it was the compensator bearing/support that I was thinking about...

Doh

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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2008, 08:45:02 AM »
and to clarify further, you can do the timken, but it will not cure the runout issue. PPPPPP= have crank trued, plugged, welded, balanced, fitted for timken. have cases fitted for timken. assemble engine and hope tranny holds !! JK
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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2008, 12:21:52 AM »
Lugging them ain't the best for any engine either.
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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2008, 01:48:35 AM »
I trust the 103 and have enjoyed the '06 which is why I went with a Nanner, along with the color the 103 was a sure bet for me.

Now however with two 103's in the stable, I am waiting for the SERG to get in.  So I guess I'll be finding out if HD has improved on the issues with the 110 and hopefully solved them.

As for the 6 spd it would be a great upgrade to the 103 SEEG if you get it. :bananarock:
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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2008, 11:12:31 PM »
Although both the 103 and 110 CVO engines use a 4 3/8" crank, the 103 crank lists for about $1,300, while the crank in the 110 is the same as used in the 96" motors and lists for about $700. 
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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2008, 12:07:39 AM »
Quote from: Harleypingman on August 15, 2008, 11:12:31 PM
Although both the 103 and 110 CVO engines use a 4 3/8" crank, the 103 crank lists for about $1,300, while the crank in the 110 is the same as used in the 96" motors and lists for about $700. 

american, or chinese!?!?
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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2008, 06:12:41 PM »
Quote from: rednectum on August 16, 2008, 12:07:39 AM
american, or chinese!?!?

BOTH!!!!!!!!LOL

I am not sure why the prices are so different. Unless you are talking about the SE 103 crank and not the CVO 103 crank. There is a difference. If you are doing a crank upgrade I would do a SE 103 or a Jim's assembly! 

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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2008, 10:46:48 PM »
Quote from: DCFIREMANN on August 16, 2008, 06:12:41 PM
BOTH!!!!!!!!LOL

I am not sure why the prices are so different. Unless you are talking about the SE 103 crank and not the CVO 103 crank. There is a difference. If you are doing a crank upgrade I would do a SE 103 or a Jim's assembly! 

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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2008, 10:22:10 AM »
or revperf, axtel, R&R will be introducing their 5 piece TC crank soon.
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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2008, 09:45:46 PM »
Part numbers and prices from my earlier posts regarding HD's stroker cranks:

In the course of investigating stroker cranks for an upcoming 103" or 113" build, I was surprised to learn that in addition to the two cranks listed in the current SE parts catalog there is a third crank that was OEM in the CVO SE 103's in the 2003 and 2004 models (didn't check other pre-110 years):  PN 23740-03, list price $1299.95.  This is now an obsolete part number that has since been replaced with -03A and currently -03B.  A friend is using the -03B version in a 113" build and I'd have liked to have seen it but it was installed in the cases at Darkhorse after their work on it.

The SE parts catalog shows PN 23728-07, list $699.95 (the OEM CVO 110" and OEM 96" crank); and, PN 23600-00, list $1049.95.

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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2008, 01:13:56 AM »
That banana looks great. Buy it already, you can't go wrong with a yellow
bike and a 103 engine. 20,000 miles on mine and NO issues with engine at
all, or any other part of the bike. :bananarock:
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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #28 on: August 25, 2008, 06:25:47 PM »
just remember, if you buy a $600 crank, or a $6000 crank, you still havta send it to the pros to know it is right.
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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2008, 01:23:46 PM »
I have had both the 110 and the 103 . I prefer the 103, great low end torque and not all the issues of the 110. I had an 06 RG and the 5 speed is perfect with the 103 as I wanted more RPM's when going thru the twisties. You will love that bike especially if you ride on the slightly aggressive side.
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