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[FNGw/08SERK]

Chief and sandubar have suggested the hand held Raytek ST Pro temp gauge. Anyone else like to add any alternative suggestions before I pull the trigger? Thanks

Howie

[REGGAB]

Chief and sandubar have suggested Raytek ST Pro temp gauge. Anyone else like to add any alternative suggestions before I pull the trigger? Thanks

Howie

OK.........I'm not sure I'm fully "read-in" on this, but I don't know of any other "IR temp guages" other than the handheld ones.  This reads like something to be installed on the bike............nah..........can't be.  Anyway..............

Was at Fry's Electronics near Cumming, GA not long ago and ran into a package deal from Fluke.  Multimeter and IR temp gun for $225.  I'm really wishin' I hadn't been such a cheap bastard.  Shoulda bought it, 'cause I can't find that deal elsewhere.  I'll pick it up next month if they're still running it.

[FNGw/08SERK]

OK.........I'm not sure I'm fully "read-in" on this, but I don't know of any other "IR temp guages" other than the handheld ones.  This reads like something to be installed on the bike............nah..........can't be.  Anyway..............
Was at Fry's Electronics near Cumming, GA not long ago and ran into a package deal from Fluke.  Multimeter and IR temp gun for $225.  I'm really wishin' I hadn't been such a cheap bastard.  Shoulda bought it, 'cause I can't find that deal elsewhere.  I'll pick it up next month if they're still running it.

Yea ur right it did read a little F'd up. Hopefully it reads a little better. Where the hell's Don when u need him??  Thanks for the heads up 

[Boatman]

I just bought a $75 infra heat pistol for the shop (local buy).  Works good, don't know if you have to purchase a $200 one to check head temperatures.

[Twolanerider]

Yea ur right it did read a little F'd up. Hopefully it reads a little better. Where the hell's Don when u need him??  Thanks for the heads up 

What ?




You guys still messing with where to point a pyrometer?  Why not just mount a little cylinder head temp gauge?

Dakota Digital makes several small (or even smaller) cylinder head temp gauges that could be mounted in a little chrome pod on the handlebar.  One is a standard size and could replace the rain gauge in the dash.

What would make them usable for this application is that the stock cylinder head temp sender in the front head would be untouched.  The Dakota Digital head temp gauges use a sending unit that simply bolts down to a head bolt.  So you could put it on the rear head in one of those middle head bolts and no one would ever even know it was there.  Or it could be installed a bit easier on one of the outboard headbolts. 

You guys have options!

[Hoist!]

What ?




You guys still messing with where to point a pyrometer?  Why not just mount a little cylinder head temp gauge?

Dakota Digital makes several small (or even smaller) cylinder head temp gauges that could be mounted in a little chrome pod on the handlebar.  One is a standard size and could replace the rain gauge in the dash.

What would make them usable for this application is that the stock cylinder head temp sender in the front head would be untouched.  The Dakota Digital head temp gauges use a sending unit that simply bolts down to a head bolt.  So you could put it on the rear head in one of those middle head bolts and no one would ever even know it was there.  Or it could be installed a bit easier on one of the outboard headbolts. 

You guys have options!

And what, pray tell, do ya'll plan on doing when you see it running too hot?

You've already done A/C, pipes, ECM remapping, and maybe headwork and cams. If it's too hot, then what. I just don't really want to know. If the oil temp's too hot, shut the bike down. I don't really think I want to know much more about it!!!

Smoke 'em til the wheels fall off!!!

Hoist!

[HogBreath]

And what, pray tell, do ya'll plan on doing when you see it running too hot?

You've already done A/C, pipes, ECM remapping, and maybe headwork and cams. If it's too hot, then what. I just don't really want to know. If the oil temp's too hot, shut the bike down. I don't really think I want to know much more about it!!!

Smoke 'em til the wheels fall off!!!

Hoist!

This coming from a guy who's walking??? I offer this post in the spirit of brotherly love.

[Twolanerider]

And what, pray tell, do ya'll plan on doing when you see it running too hot?

Well that's easy, dumass.  Turn NORTH!  It's always cooler up north !

[Fired00d]

This coming from a guy who's walking??? I offer this post in the spirit of brotherly love.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[Hoist!]

This coming from a guy who's walking??? I offer this post in the spirit of brotherly love.

I got your brotherly love right here, Superbro!!!

Hoist!

[Twolanerider]

I got your brotherly love right here, Superbro!!!

Hoist!

Hey Ken, when's the Wide Glide supposed to get done?  Wasn't that this month?   

[FNGw/08SERK]

Youze guys r funny!!    Who said the temp I want read is on the bike 

[HogBreath]

Hey Ken, when's the Wide Glide supposed to get done?  Wasn't that this month?   

And in which spirit do you ask?

[Twolanerider]

Youze guys r funny!!    Who said the temp I want read is on the bike 

You could still be in good shape.  That Dakotal Digital sending unit only needs a... ummm... er....  a "contact patch." 

















(and just think of all the ways to mount the gauge!)

[CVOMOE!!]

Hoist actually has a good point.  What does it matter how hot the heads are running.  It's no different than those stupid temp. oil dipsticks.  If it's running too hot or what you believe to be too hot you can't change it anyway.  I for one would rather not though although I do have the 103 which runs cooler.  If you don't know how hot it's running you don't have to worry yourself about it.  Get the extended warranty.

Regards, Moe
 

[Twolanerider]

And in which spirit do you ask?

More brotherly love.  Of course.










(Or Damien, I often get those two confused.)

[HogBreath]

Youze guys r funny!!    Who said the temp I want read is on the bike 

Whenever JD and I are talking about the site and Howie...I refer to the "good" Howie and the "bad" Howie. Now, even I'm confused which is which? Oh..I know. Hair Howie and Bald Howie!

[Twolanerider]

Hoist actually has a good point.  What does it matter how hot the heads are running.  It's no different than those stupid temp. oil dipsticks.  If it's running too hot or what you believe to be too hot you can't change it anyway.  I for one would rather not though although I do have the 103 which runs cooler.  If you don't know how hot it's running you don't have to worry yourself about it.  Get the extended warranty.

Regards, Moe
 

True Chris.  If it hasn't broke yet you're obvsiously still good.  Having said that; can we keep picking on Howie some more?

[spydglide]

I bought the Raytek MT (MiniTemp) for fifty bucks or so........works fine for me.  Tells me my Huckleberry is one hot scooter!  har!  spyder

[Twolanerider]

I bought the Raytek MT (MiniTemp) for fifty bucks or so........works fine for me.  Tells me my Huckleberry is one hot scooter!  har!  spyder

My IR gun displays in red.  Only told me what I already knew.  Red bikes are hot!!

[Hoist!]

I've been spewing and rewriting posts since you 2 got started! But between the 2 of youze, even I can't keep up! Ah F it!!! I'm getting an infra red gun and I'ma shoot both your asses with it!





But mine's really a taser!!!

Hoist!

[Twolanerider]

I've been spewing and rewriting posts since you 2 got started! But between the 2 of youze, even I can't keep up! Ah F it!!! I'm getting an infra red gun and I'ma shoot both your asses with it!





But mine's really a taser!!!

Hoist!

Tazer schmazer.  I wear reflective shorts!!

[HogBreath]

I had a VW bug years ago. I was driving along about 65 MPH when all of a sudden the engine locks up, and I slide to a screeching halt. Just as it stopped, and all the smoke boiled out of engine, the "Check Engine Light" came on. Evidently VW's won't run w/o smoke. I carried it to the shop and they installed some new smoke, and I was ready to roll again.

[Twolanerider]

Oh, and by the way, BINX!!!!   He's talkin' about my ass again!!

[Hoist!]

Tazer schmazer.  I wear reflective shorts!!

Then I'll angle your ass towards Ken so he gets the full Monty!!!

Hoist!

[Twolanerider]

I had a VW bug years ago. I was driving along about 65 MPH when all of a sudden the engine locks up, and I slide to a screeching halt. Just as it stopped, and all the smoke boiled out of engine, the "Check Engine Light" came on. Evidently VW's won't run w/o smoke. I carried it to the shop and they installed some new smoke, and I was ready to roll again.

Should've been using synthetic.... 

[Hoist!]

I had a VW bug years ago. I was driving along about 65 MPH when all of a sudden the engine locks up, and I slide to a screeching halt. Just as it stopped, and all the smoke boiled out of engine, the "Check Engine Light" came on. Evidently VW's won't run w/o smoke. I carried it to the shop and they installed some new smoke, and I was ready to roll again.

That's the funniest thing I ever read!!!!!















You had a VW Bug!!!

Hoist!

[Twolanerider]

Then I'll angle your ass towards Ken so he gets the full Monty!!!

Hoist!

BINX.  Now he's talking about glancing blows!  Make it stop!!!

[Hoist!]

Hey, BTW, don't this chit belong in some Obama or Hillary or some other stupid useless political thread!

Hoist!

[spydglide]

Whenever JD and I are talking about the site and Howie...I refer to the "good" Howie and the "bad" Howie. Now, even I'm confused which is which? Oh..I know. Hair Howie and Bald Howie!

Or it could be the 1st Howie and the 2nd Howie......har!  spyder

[spydglide]

You had a VW Bug!!!

Hoist!

Hey!  That's still my 'everyday driver'......or as it's known around town as Spyder's UAV.  ( Urban Assault Vehicle )   har!  spyder

[Hoist!]

Hey!  That's still my 'everyday driver'......or as it's known around town as Spyder's UAV.  ( Urban Assault Vehicle )   har!  spyder

But I picture Ken's head sticking out of the sunroof while he's driving it! Kinda like Baby Huey!!!

Hoist!

[FNGw/08SERK]

But I picture Ken's head sticking out of the sunroof while he's driving it! Kinda like Baby Huey!!!

Hoist!

Now that'd be a picture         

[HogBreath]

I used to wonder about this, back in the day I had that VW. I'd imagine traveling at a rather high rate of speed, say...the speed of light..in outspace, backwards. If I flipped my headlights on, would they shine, or just glow? One night I had it figured out, but when I awoke the next morning, I realized I really didn't have it figured out.

[FNGw/08SERK]

My all time best VW story goes wayyy back in the day. To cure boredom during the long Upstate NY winter we would take my buddies bug down the biggest hill we could find either during or right after some lake effect snow when the roads were covered. We'd run that bug down as fast as we could hit the parking brake and that baby would spin like a top, bouncing form side to side off the snow banks.  Hey what do you want it was a lifetime ago     

[FNGw/08SERK]

Found this in an old thread posted by CVOJOE http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/268/RipOff0268835.htm

[megavolt17]

 
To get back to the ORIGINAL subject!

If I get an infrared temp gauge what are the "normal" temps for a 110?  I see many postings comparing them to stock engines, comparing those with a race tuner to those without, etc.  Is there any agreement regarding a particular temp that the bike simply should never exceed?   What is the most critical, oil temp, head temp, exhaust temp, etc?

Thanks!

[Chief]

To get back to the ORIGINAL subject!

If I get an infrared temp gauge what are the "normal" temps for a 110?  I see many postings comparing them to stock engines, comparing those with a race tuner to those without, etc.  Is there any agreement regarding a particular temp that the bike simply should never exceed?   What is the most critical, oil temp, head temp, exhaust temp, etc?

Thanks!

In short, No. No one has any idea. Everytime we figure out the hottest an engine can run, Harley produces one that runs hotter. We went though all of this in April / May of last year and never came up with a definitive, or even ball park, answer.

[miker]

I had metal temps of 280ish with oil at 230ish on my serk3 with RH2-1, sert, SE ac
The Missus' dyna 88 tc with RH2-1, big sukka had rear cylinder metal temps of 280ish with oil temp aroound 230.

Don'y know what any of it means either...

[FNGw/08SERK]

Has anyone previously or does it make sense to start a "temp poll" based on like model bikes and engine sizes? Anyway possible it would be useful as a crude benchmark? Or is my FNG shining thru?? 

[spydglide]

Has anyone previously or does it make sense to start a "temp poll" based on like model bikes and engine sizes? Anyway possible it would be useful as a crude benchmark? Or is my FNG shining thru?? 

try as i may, i'm not aware of this abbreviation.  spyder

[Fired00d]

try as i may, i'm not aware of this abbreviation.  spyder

F____ (sure you can fill in what that stands for ) New Guy

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[FNGw/08SERK]

F____ (sure you can fill in what that stands for ) New Guy

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

Thanks Gary 

[miker]

Has anyone previously or does it make sense to start a "temp poll" based on like model bikes and engine sizes? Anyway possible it would be useful as a crude benchmark? Or is my FNG shining thru?? 

We did for a while....Rear jug, left side aft of the plug on the flat spot.   
I haven't the foggiest what was done...There were some 350 metal temp plus temps, I think 

Conditional info was also posted...Ambient temp, solo/2up, traffic, hwy ect...

[RedDevil]

I don't need no stinkin infrared doo-dad.  Ifn my rocker covers is glowin red, then I probably need to shut the engine down as it's probably too hot.   

   

[hogasm]

I have a Craftsman infrared temp gauge that I use for checking: head temps, water temps, air temps....you name it and it has been very reliable. Temp difference from that under $100 piece of equipment and the $2500 I have is less than .5 degrees. Not too bad

[Talon]

I'd like to get one, mostly to see the difference that changes make in the motor and exhaust temps.

As for head temps, there was an article in American Cycle about some Namz leads that attach to the O2 sensors that trick the ECM to richen up the fuel ratio and help cool the motor. The original temp of the heads after 12 min of running was 260, after the installation it was 243.

[megavolt17]

To get back to the ORIGINAL subject!

If I get an infrared temp gauge what are the "normal" temps for a 110?  I see many postings comparing them to stock engines, comparing those with a race tuner to those without, etc.  Is there any agreement regarding a particular temp that the bike simply should never exceed?   What is the most critical, oil temp, head temp, exhaust temp, etc?

Thanks!

1220.58 °F is the melting point of aluminum.  If your CVO temperature approaches that I suggest you turn off your engine immediately!   

I wonder at what point the synthetic oil will break down (or ignite).  Probably a lot lower than 1200 °F 

[miker]

This is what I use...


http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXEMG5&P=ML

[Hoist!]

This is what I use...








It's shown in the "engine was too hot mode"!

Hoist!

[sadunbar]

This is what I use...








It's shown in the "engine was too hot mode"!

Hoist!

hmmm....whose motor did your hand get burned on??  (you can take it from here twolane...)

 

[Hoist!]

hmmm....whose motor did your hand get burned on??  (you can take it from here twolane...)

 

Can't be mine. It don't even run!!!

Hoist!

[sadunbar]

Can't be mine. It don't even run!!!

Hoist!