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[babaji05]

Cheers guys, Harley have agreed to replace my motor with a 2020 version of the Screaming Eagle. It appears that for whatever reason these motors dont do it
 or at least theres nothing on the net about it. Fingers crossed. At all times I was calm, polite but firm and sympathetic to the dealer. This paid dividends and hopefully when it is fixed we will all have a win win situation whhich is best.

[Phantom309]

Cheers guys, Harley have agreed to replace my motor with a 2020 version of the Screaming Eagle. It appears that for whatever reason these motors dont do it
 or at least theres nothing on the net about it. Fingers crossed. At all times I was calm, polite but firm and sympathetic to the dealer. This paid dividends and hopefully when it is fixed we will all have a win win situation whhich is best.

Good for you and I wish you better luck with the new one. Not to sound like negative Ned, but I can't believe people still continue buy these junk M8s after hearing about all the well-known problems. I know it isn't my money, but it just pi$$es me off when the average guy buys a new bike he already got raped on in the 1st place .... and then has to deal with warranty stuff or spending MORE of your own dough to make it right. There are plenty of other better bikes out there without that bar & shield branding for the money. I can see why so many are jumping ship and sales are tanking for HD. I have the same love/hate relationship with my bike as others that own them and that's why I've been back/forth 4 times personally. Mine has been pretty good to me so far, but it is the last HD I'll ever own just because of their lack-luster attitude with their consumers.

[FLSTFI Dave]

Good for you and I wish you better luck with the new one. Not to sound like negative Ned, but I can't believe people still continue buy these junk M8s after hearing about all the well-known problems. I know it isn't my money, but it just pi$$es me off when the average guy buys a new bike he already got raped on in the 1st place .... and then has to deal with warranty stuff or spending MORE of your own dough to make it right. There are plenty of other better bikes out there without that bar & shield branding for the money. I can see why so many are jumping ship and sales are tanking for HD. I have the same love/hate relationship with my bike as others that own them and that's why I've been back/forth 4 times personally. Mine has been pretty good to me so far, but it is the last HD I'll ever own just because of their lack-luster attitude with their consumers.

I am guessing its the same that people kept buying the 110 motor CVO bikes with all the known issues.  10 years in production and still having lifter failure as early as 20K miles.  I have had 4 110 CVO bikes, 2 had lifter failure, one never had a chance as the motor was built with 1500 miles on the bike,  The 15 had catastrophic lifter failure at 44K miles two days before factory warranty was up, motor was replaced. 

I am on my 3rd CV0 M8 bike.  23K miles on the first one in a year, no motor issues.  2nd one 24500 miles in a year.  I felt it start to sump once while ridding AZ 666 which is 120 miles of twisty curvy mount road in AZ and it was very hot out, over 95 degrees.  Bike was being ridden very hard.  Felt it start to loose power, slowed, pulled over and let the bike idle while upright not on stand for several minutes.  Bike back to normal.  My 3rd M8 CVO has just over 18K miles on it, not a year old yet.  no motor issues.  Lots of other issues, like 3rd set of front rotors.

[scotman623]

I have a 2017 SGS that started the fluid transfer this year at 6,700 miles. I serviced the bike for winter and noticed the primary was about 10 ounces over full and my tranny was that much down. I contacted my dealer and he set up an appointment for me and they installed the HD vent kit.

Winter is here so I have not had a chance to even drive it since the update. I did not experience any sumping with the motor so I will keep my fingers crossed.

My buddy also has a 2017 SGS and we serviced his bike late this fall too and his checked out ok on both the fluid transferring and sumping.

I should have mentioned that they also installed the vent kit during the build.. Everything is done except the 5.5 injectors, just waiting on Harley to get them to the builder.

[dayne66]

I am guessing its the same that people kept buying the 110 motor CVO bikes with all the known issues. 

I waited until 2012 to buy my 110.....I believed that the issues were fixed by then....'guess not!

[easyryder01]

Have dealer replace oil pump with current 2020 oil pump. Previous oil pump is now obsolete.

[grc]

Have dealer replace oil pump with current 2020 oil pump. Previous oil pump is now obsolete.

As are the previous four or five or six versions, I've lost track of the exact number.  This is a fine example of a manufacturer doing the same thing we all bash dealership service departments for, keep throwing parts at a problem hoping something will magically "fix" the problem.  In Harley's case they are just throwing different band-aids at the problem, hoping they will stumble on one that's good enough to get the vast majority of engines beyond the factory warranty.  Same strategy that worked so well (not) on the Twin Cam 110 catastrophic lifter and engine failures, a strategy the ESP folks and/or customers are still paying for btw.

Jerry