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CVO Technical => Twin Cam => Topic started by: laylonlor on December 24, 2010, 02:56:00 PM

Title: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: laylonlor on December 24, 2010, 02:56:00 PM: been riding my 2010 S.G., with the new up grades,... feels like a new bike, ended up 130/130, ....to the rear wheel 122/122, ...it has a woods 400 cam, deweys heads, smith pushrods 10/5 hd pistons ,tts tuner, d/d zilla fatcat, and tuned by jd, can't keep up with my busa, lol,but its nice ride :bananarock:
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: timtoolman on December 24, 2010, 08:57:08 PM: check out the website at hendrick motorsport of u tube videos of their bagger from hendrick motorsport spanking hyabusa's in thr qtr mile!!!!

we love those 400-6 cams dont we!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! how does it sound!
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: mlb3164 on December 24, 2010, 09:11:10 PM: Tim did you mean Hemrick Performance? He has some cool YouTube videos spanking the sportbikes.
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: HD Street Performance on December 25, 2010, 07:31:26 AM: Nice result. Good job,
Glad you took the time and effort to see this great tuner and follow his lead on the pipe etc.
Feel free to fax (253-344-1189) or email me the dyno and I will post it. I would not expect that 400 to be too much noisier than stock with the corrected geometry and the way I set the springs up. Dave confirmed that when we spoke.
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: timtoolman on December 25, 2010, 12:48:25 PM: oops yes i had the wrong name, sorry :nixweiss:
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: eleft36 on December 26, 2010, 07:02:03 PM: Quote from: laylonlor on December 24, 2010, 02:56:00 PM
been riding my 2010 S.G., with the new up grades,... feels like a new bike, ended up 130/130, ....to the rear wheel 122/122, ...it has a woods 400 cam, deweys heads, smith pushrods 10/5 hd pistons ,tts tuner, d/d zilla fatcat, and tuned by jd, can't keep up with my busa, lol,but its nice ride :bananarock:

I was unaware a dyno for motor cycles could get info from something other than rolling the rear wheel, please enlighten me.

Maybe I don't know what you meant to say.

Al
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: laylonlor on December 26, 2010, 10:08:00 PM: hey dewey ,get jd to forward the results, and post them ,.... yea them woods 400 cams are nice, everything came togather nice , i had some good people , that put everything in order, thanks to all......HAPPY NEW YEAR, NOW I'M OFF TO FL. :drink:
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: Phaq2 on December 27, 2010, 08:28:52 AM: Was the crank addressed. Ride safe
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: laylonlor on December 27, 2010, 08:53:50 AM: nothing done to the crank :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: Phaq2 on December 27, 2010, 09:00:17 AM: Thanks
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: cvobiker on December 27, 2010, 02:32:03 PM: Quote from: laylonlor on December 27, 2010, 08:53:50 AM
nothing done to the crank :2vrolijk_21:

Too Bad ...... It wont be long,,, and you will :P
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: laylonlor on December 27, 2010, 03:58:35 PM: think so, if i do it will be a larger engine when finished
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: cvobiker on December 28, 2010, 09:08:53 AM: Quote from: laylonlor on December 27, 2010, 03:58:35 PM
think so, if i do it will be a larger engine when finished

Get an early start,,,,, go check your run out :P
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: laylonlor on December 28, 2010, 01:49:08 PM: what'n all is involed when checking the run out
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: laylonlor on December 28, 2010, 02:15:08 PM: you trying to voodoo me,....my wrench says it was one thousand run out 300 miles ago, and not to worry , >:(
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: cvobiker on December 28, 2010, 11:08:40 PM: Just saying' it just seems these newer cranks (06 up) dont hold up to big horsepower... Lots of reports on this board and many others discussing this issue. With your numbers definitely should have welded and plugged the crank. Curious, are you running gear drive cams?
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: laylonlor on December 29, 2010, 12:36:20 AM: CHAIN DRIVE CAMS , THE MOTOR WASN'T OUT OF THE BIKE JUST HEADS CAMS AND OTHER GOODIES, WASN'T TAKING THE MOTOR OUT FOR THAT, I'LL CROSS THAT BRIDGE LATER IF I NEED TO
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: Proctor on December 29, 2010, 04:06:26 PM: Quote from: cvobiker on December 28, 2010, 11:08:40 PM
Just saying' it just seems these newer cranks (06 up) dont hold up to big horsepower... Lots of reports on this board and many others discussing this issue. With your numbers definitely should have welded and plugged the crank. Curious, are you running gear drive cams?

That's exactly why I sent my crank out!!! Balanced, welded and timken upgrade. No worries!!!
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: HD Street Performance on December 29, 2010, 05:47:56 PM: Gee wizz leave the guy alone. He is an adult and was well aware of the crank issue before he did the build. It has already been well documented and leave it at that. He is enjoying the ride let it be.
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: timtoolman on January 06, 2011, 10:28:55 AM: yeah! what he said!
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: HD Street Performance on January 31, 2011, 04:33:13 PM: This is the dyno.
Good job to the dealer wrench and Dave at JDs
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: laylonlor on January 31, 2011, 08:20:14 PM: yea thats me , i got 2k miles on the build now, been in Fl. blasting around, been running good :bananarock:
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: Twolanerider on January 31, 2011, 08:38:56 PM: Quote from: laylonlor on December 24, 2010, 02:56:00 PM

been riding my 2010 S.G., with the new up grades,... feels like a new bike, ended up 130/130, ....to the rear wheel 122/122, ...

Quote from: laylonlor on December 29, 2010, 12:36:20 AM
CHAIN DRIVE CAMS , THE MOTOR WASN'T OUT OF THE BIKE JUST HEADS CAMS AND OTHER GOODIES, WASN'T TAKING THE MOTOR OUT FOR THAT, I'LL CROSS THAT BRIDGE LATER IF I NEED TO

I'm confused (not uncommon). How'd you get the 130/130 dyno number at the crank if the engine was never out of the bike?
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: bigjohn on January 31, 2011, 09:02:14 PM: Its usually done by calculation.

very nice build laylonor :2vrolijk_21:

here is some reading on dyno's, I forget most of the story but this explains a little.

http://www.hotrod.com/thehistoryof/113_0603_dynojet_chassis_dyno/index.html

http://forums.gogodiesel.com/showthread.php?13465-whats-the-difference-between-dynojets
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: HILLSIDECYCLE.COM on February 01, 2011, 06:49:07 AM: He is probably refering to actual numbers, and the SAE was 122/122.
IF the powerplant was on a engine dyno, then expect to see approx. 15% or more, as the driveline gobbles up that much.
Scott
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: Mr. Warlock on March 17, 2011, 11:54:19 AM: Seriously............. after looking at the outcome of this build and many others, what would / could be better than this configuration for a new 110? Is there a down side to this build?

Thanks, Rick
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: sadunbar on March 17, 2011, 12:02:39 PM: Somebody please tell me Charlie Sheen hasn't purchased a CVO.... :nervous:

Just kidding!!!! :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: Proctor on March 17, 2011, 12:17:17 PM: WINNING...

I like the idea that I kept mine a 110, so when people ask, I say it's a 110, see the badging... 8)
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: Dr.D on March 17, 2011, 01:36:56 PM: What are the threshold numbers for doing a crankcase improvement?
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: Mr. Warlock on March 17, 2011, 04:39:05 PM: Quote from: sadunbar on March 17, 2011, 12:02:39 PM
Somebody please tell me Charlie Sheen hasn't purchased a CVO.... :nervous:

Just kidding!!!! :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:

Sorry, I'm not getting it???

I'm getting ready to do mine and this looks like a very good all around package to me.
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: HD Street Performance on March 17, 2011, 05:41:00 PM: There really is no hard fast rule of thumb. Some go without cause and others that are beat on last and cause no issues.
Considering the level of the build I would consider weld and true of the crank. Timkens would not be required as the latest roller bearings seem to be holding well but would not hurt either.
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: sadunbar on March 17, 2011, 06:16:15 PM: Quote from: Mr. Warlock on March 17, 2011, 04:39:05 PM
Sorry, I'm not getting it???

I'm getting ready to do mine and this looks like a very good all around package to me.

Charlie has been calling himself the "Warlock" lately....

When I saw Mr. Warlock.....bad joke....nevermind.... :oops: ::)
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: timtoolman on March 17, 2011, 09:24:17 PM: The only downside to this build? was a question asked?? REAR TIRE LIFE!!!!!!! im finding that out now
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: Mr. Warlock on March 18, 2011, 08:08:12 AM: Quote from: sadunbar on March 17, 2011, 06:16:15 PM
Charlie has been calling himself the "Warlock" lately....

When I saw Mr. Warlock.....bad joke....nevermind.... :oops: ::)

Ahhhh, I haven't been reading or listening to any of his crap so I didn't get it......... lol, that's fine.

So, does this build want the Zilla pipe (which is what I see listed) or the regular Fat Cat pipe? Most of what I have read is that for a stock bore 110 the regular Fat Cat is what works the best????
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: Mr. Warlock on March 18, 2011, 08:09:10 AM: Quote from: timtoolman on March 17, 2011, 09:24:17 PM
The only downside to this build? was a question asked?? REAR TIRE LIFE!!!!!!! im finding that out now

I can live with that, lol............ as long as the wife hangs on tighter I'm all set. :huepfenlol2:
Title: Re: 2010 cvo S. G. 122 hp
Post by: Dr.D on March 22, 2011, 04:49:23 PM: Those are some really nice dyno curves without flat spot or dips along with good top numbers. I would guess the other downside would be the cost but who's counting dollars here? :huepfenlol2: