Post by: cahdbiker on February 01, 2016, 07:27:44 PM
Post by: cvosjoe on February 01, 2016, 07:32:46 PM
Post by: Break shot on February 01, 2016, 08:16:48 PM
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Post by: cahdbiker on February 01, 2016, 08:55:27 PM
Well I find this discourageing ,, just bought mine has 118 k on the frame engine and trans replaced about 22k ago seems ok but I know little , and here I bought this bike cause I thought my 82 shovel head would be less dependable ,, it's got 8k on total rebuild , I might have to rethink selling it,,
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Post by: hotroadking on February 01, 2016, 09:03:39 PM
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Post by: Break shot on February 01, 2016, 09:41:05 PM
Break shot, don't get bummed out. My bike still sounds exactly like it did the day I picked it up. The oil use is absolutely minimal. I just want to see how many people do a cautionary replacement of lifters and cam bearings and how many people just let it ride and do their services on a regular basis and see what happens as they build up miles. I know there have been many major catastrophies posted on this site. However, what I am looking for is the people who since their bikes are working fine haven't posted anything negative. Just for the record I don't baby my bike. I have been thru the desert at 115 degrees fully loaded with passenger, and also been over Independence Pass in Colorado with snow on the ground. It runs great every time. CAHDBIKERWell I was thinking since they are hi po engines people who buy them are the people who like to run them , obviously with the bike having 118k this guy liked to ride I bought it from the guys who worked on it they said that it has the 3rd trans in it the motor and trans replacements where done at Harley ,
I don't plan on any long trips hip can't handle it maybe to the beach 150 miles will be the farthest
Mostly 100 miles or less round trips a dozen of those and I'm good
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Post by: Phantom309 on February 02, 2016, 04:35:47 AM
Hello Guys, just wondering how many 110's are stock or maybe stage one modified that are still running well with 25K miles or more on them. I have complained about my lifters ticking at 3 thousand RPM and initially the fifth gear wine. At this point the fifth gear wine seems to be getting less and less Any other engine noises are the same as when it was new. I don't want to take my bike in and have the cam bearings, lifters etc replaced if not needed. I have extended my warranty to 2020 so if the engine goes out I will be covered. For the record my motor runs great except for the lifter noise at 3K. Also I would like to mention that on cold start up the engine is quiet (no lifter noise). I am only at 22k on my 09. I missed a year because of back surgery. Most of my rides are long distance. I drive it locally twice a month just for kicks. All feedback will help me decide if I need to be proactive regarding lifters and cam bearings. Thanks in advance.CAHDBIKER
This is probably your ticking noise ...
https://youtu.be/0wh10CAZvEg
Updated vid with before/after ... BIG difference!
https://youtu.be/2TgYZPvAPTs
Guys that have done this mod love it. Going to do it myself before winter is over. Just another smart guy that managed to fix another one of harley's many screw-ups with a handfull of tapered bushings.
Post by: FLSTFI Dave on February 02, 2016, 07:40:26 AM
my 12 SERG had 46K on it at trade no issues other than recalled regulator
My 15 SERGU has 31K on it with no troubles yet.
Post by: ltank on February 02, 2016, 09:34:59 AM
Post by: mark on February 02, 2016, 09:41:05 AM
The OP having to post this question speaks volumes. I wonder if anyone at HD HQ monitors the various HD forums, including this one? Something's wrong when customers buy a company's top of the line product, then question whether to start replacing parts. I'm not Harley or CVO bashing, just pointing out something that's concerning...something that should be especially concerning to a CEO.
Last year I bought a new Ford F-150 King Ranch. I couldn't imagine buying a top of the line pickup, then immediately worrying about parts failing. I don't think Ford mgmt would stand for reliability like that.
BTW, 20k on my CVO with original lifters, etc. However, started using oil about 10k...1 qt. every 1,000 miles. Not acceptable on a $30k+ bike after so few miles. Others have posted similar issues about 110 oil consumption.
Post by: smkymtnboy on February 02, 2016, 10:01:12 AM
Post by: SanJuanRon on February 02, 2016, 10:14:37 AM
Post by: ultrafxr on February 02, 2016, 11:13:24 AM
Post by: RonandJanet on February 02, 2016, 01:18:43 PM
Post by: YELLOWBIRD on February 02, 2016, 03:29:16 PM
My stock lifters were prefect! I did have a weird noise that I thought was the lifters. Ext. Warranty took care of everything minus my aftermarkets parts.
My inner cam bearing was the culprit.
YB
Post by: FlaHeatWave on February 02, 2016, 03:55:08 PM
Just an observation from the cheap seats:
The OP having to post this question speaks volumes. I wonder if anyone at HD HQ monitors the various HD forums, including this one? Something's wrong when customers buy a company's top of the line product, then question whether to start replacing parts. I'm not Harley or CVO bashing, just pointing out something that's concerning...something that should be especially concerning to a CEO.
Last year I bought a new Ford F-150 King Ranch. I couldn't imagine buying a top of the line pickup, then immediately worrying about parts failing. I don't think Ford mgmt would stand for reliability like that.
BTW, 20k on my CVO with original lifters, etc. However, started using oil about 10k...1 qt. every 1,000 miles. Not acceptable on a $30k+ bike after so few miles. Others have posted similar issues about 110 oil consumption.
I had a friend in FL, and a friend in SC that the 6.0L PowerStroke Diesels in their brand new 2004 F-250, 350 King Ranches blew up (melted, 1 caught fire) on their first day with the trucks, window stickers still in the windows, later a large class action law suit for Ford on the 6.0s to the tune of $500M... My '04 F-250 6.0L Harley Truck has never let me down for >150k mi. so far, although I did perform preventative measures along the way... ( just like changing out the lifters in a 110 :nervous:)
There's not a Manufacturer out there that can throw stones...
Post by: Rooster on February 02, 2016, 07:35:43 PM
Post by: FreestateSE3 on February 02, 2016, 07:39:36 PM
Post by: mark on February 02, 2016, 08:28:00 PM
I had a friend in FL, and a friend in SC that the 6.0L PowerStroke Diesels in their brand new 2004 F-250, 350 King Ranches blew up (melted, 1 caught fire) on their first day with the trucks, window stickers still in the windows, later a large class action law suit for Ford on the 6.0s to the tune of $500M... My '04 F-250 6.0L Harley Truck has never let me down for >150k mi. so far, although I did perform preventative measures along the way... ( just like changing out the lifters in a 110 :nervous:)
There's not a Manufacturer out there that can throw stones...
I can just imagine that being in the HD manual. "At 10,000 miles, the MoCo recommends the owner replace the 110 lifters with those produced by a quality manufacturer."
Post by: Firewalker on February 02, 2016, 08:31:45 PM
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Post by: cahdbiker on February 04, 2016, 12:14:43 AM
This is probably your ticking noise ...
https://youtu.be/0wh10CAZvEg
Updated vid with before/after ... BIG difference!
https://youtu.be/2TgYZPvAPTs
Guys that have done this mod love it. Going to do it myself before winter is over. Just another smart guy that managed to fix another one of harley's many screw-ups with a handfull of tapered bushings.
Post by: RedNose44 on February 04, 2016, 11:36:43 PM
Just an observation from the cheap seats:
The OP having to post this question speaks volumes. I wonder if anyone at HD HQ monitors the various HD forums, including this one? Something's wrong when customers buy a company's top of the line product, then question whether to start replacing parts. I'm not Harley or CVO bashing, just pointing out something that's concerning...something that should be especially concerning to a CEO.
Last year I bought a new Ford F-150 King Ranch. I couldn't imagine buying a top of the line pickup, then immediately worrying about parts failing. I don't think Ford mgmt would stand for reliability like that.
BTW, 20k on my CVO with original lifters, etc. However, started using oil about 10k...1 qt. every 1,000 miles. Not acceptable on a $30k+ bike after so few miles. Others have posted similar issues about 110 oil consumption.
I had a Ford Excursion lemon lawed the first year the 6.0 diesel came out. It was a nightmare from the get go, and supposedly Ford knew the motor had issues. After I had a complete power loss in the #1 lane on a major SoCal freeway, I got a lawyer involved. They took it back and wrote me a check. Worst vehicle I have ever owned.
Post by: ffltjeff on February 05, 2016, 04:03:15 PM
Post by: aclass on February 05, 2016, 06:45:42 PM
Post by: HD Jim on February 05, 2016, 08:13:22 PM
Post by: Mano on February 06, 2016, 10:51:48 AM
Ride it until it dies........the extended plan won't pay for "preventive parts replacement". Why buy the extended plan and then spend money to prevent using it?
YES brother :2vrolijk_21:, that's what I say too. At 60 000 miles mine was rebuilt under warranty.
Now let's see if I can get another rebuild before the warranty runs out. :huepfenjump3:
Post by: jwatts2133 on February 06, 2016, 03:49:43 PM
My 2015 FLTRUSE has 34k on it and doesn’t sound any different than when it was new. Engine runs well. Stock with Fullsac DX and 2.25 baffles.I just purchased the Fullsac DX and 2.25" cores for my 15 CVO roadglide. I'm anxious to get them installed! How do you like yours? I'm hoping they're sound good, but not obnoxious.
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Post by: longlast on February 06, 2016, 04:02:54 PM
There may be three factors at work here at manufacturing,..
Low mileage issues= Friday afternoon throw together.
Mid mileage issues= Monday morning hangover put together.
High mileage with no issues= Tuesday to Thursday put together.
Hope mine's a Wednesday ::) No motor parts issues at 10K, only a blown starter relay that I did my self, arced the battery :P
Post by: cvosjoe on February 06, 2016, 04:45:27 PM
I just purchased the Fullsac DX and 2.25" cores for my 15 CVO roadglide. I'm anxious to get them installed! How do you like yours? I'm hoping they're sound good, but not obnoxious.Really like the sound. Not thumpy sounding. Can hear music fine without having the volume cranked up high. The sound suits my preference.
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Post by: cvosjoe on February 09, 2016, 01:22:27 PM
My 2015 FLTRUSE has 34k on it and doesn’t sound any different than when it was new. Engine runs well. Stock with Fullsac DX and 2.25 baffles.Well I think I jinxed myself. Went over to the dealership the other day to hang out with a friend while he was getting his bike serviced. I asked the dealership if they had time to check out a rattling/squeaking noise coming from the cam chest area on my bike. Just got a call from the dealership that some needle bearings came out of a lifter and got into the oil pump and oil filter. Guess I'll be without a bike for a few weeks but I'm getting a new motor under warranty.
Post by: SanJuanRon on February 09, 2016, 07:13:43 PM
Well I think I jinxed myself. Went over to the dealership the other day to hang out with a friend while he was getting his bike serviced. I asked the dealership if they had time to check out a rattling/squeaking noise coming from the cam chest area on my bike. Just got a call from the dealership that some needle bearings came out of a lifter and got into the oil pump and oil filter. Guess I'll be without a bike for a few weeks but I'm getting a new motor under warranty.Well that sucks!
Post by: FLSTFI Dave on February 09, 2016, 08:47:59 PM
Well that sucks!
Yes and no. Sucks that it happened. Nice he now has a new motor, with no miles on it.
Post by: Ridgerunr on February 10, 2016, 07:40:22 AM
Glad it didn't happen far from home Joe. When you get the new motor maybe slide some S&S lifters into it.
Post by: cvosjoe on February 10, 2016, 09:52:41 AM
So much for those SE lifters with larger bearings! >:(Will probably trade when the 17s come out. If not I'll get extended warranty.
Glad it didn't happen far from home Joe. When you get the new motor maybe slide some S&S lifters into it.
Post by: Jeff G on February 10, 2016, 12:56:59 PM
Post by: Fired00d on February 10, 2016, 03:50:16 PM
Ford knew they had a problem a few years ago with there engines and the spark plugs that blow out of the head because they only have 3 threads holding them in. So in the more expensive King Ranch editions they put in nicer leather interior so you would be comfortable while waiting for a tow truck. Yugo took a similar approach by installing rear window defogger's on all there vehicles to keep your hands warm when you pushed them.Somebody told me that was the same reason Ford put heaters on their tailgates.... to keep your hands warm when you push them. :D :D :D
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
Post by: HarleyJeffOregon on February 10, 2016, 04:54:52 PM
Post by: Break shot on February 10, 2016, 07:41:45 PM
Somebody told me that was the same reason Ford put heaters on their tailgates.... to keep your hands warm when you push them. :D :D :D
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
That's only when your draging a Chevy behind it ,,
;)
Break shot
Post by: Ridgerunr on February 11, 2016, 08:03:51 AM
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Post by: TN on February 18, 2016, 02:46:11 PM
TN
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Post by: James D on February 05, 2017, 09:58:19 AM
Crank, cylinder walls, pistons, cams (more). . . still breaking in the rebuild. Very disappointed as well that Harley did not send me a new crate motor. Rebuilt Engine feels rougher than when I bought the bike new. Did not expect to have to deal with this type of issue on a $40k bike, well maintained.
Post by: ultrafxr on February 05, 2017, 12:13:05 PM
Well, sorry to say that the engine in my 2015 FLHTKSE 110 CVO beauty was rebuilt last month at 19,500 miles. I had dealer servicing at all required intervals and changed the oil more often than required, actually.James, your troubles are not that unusual albeit your's did arise a tad bit earlier than most. Here's hoping the rebuilt motor has a long and trouble free life. :2vrolijk_21:
Crank, cylinder walls, pistons, cams (more). . . still breaking in the rebuild. Very disappointed as well that Harley did not send me a new crate motor. Rebuilt Engine feels rougher than when I bought the bike new. Did not expect to have to deal with this type of issue on a $40k bike, well maintained.
Post by: J.D. on February 05, 2017, 05:34:00 PM
Post by: mark on February 05, 2017, 09:18:06 PM
No disrespect to anyone here but these big inch Twin Cam engines are a joke from a reliability standpoint, and the worst part is Harley knows it. Cam lifts and ramps are too much for the roller lifters. Compensators suck. Inner cam bearings suck. Crank bearings suck. Cranks have too much runout. Twin cams were not designed for what they've evolved into. I agree with those who say the drivetrain of a new $40K+ bike should run longer than 20K miles without major problems. Sure, some do, but seems more don't. YMMV.I agree.
Post by: J.D. on February 05, 2017, 09:33:31 PM
Post by: FLSTFI Dave on February 06, 2017, 08:07:05 AM
From the 2014 SE catalog, this should give some indication:No where in the owners manual for bikes with the 110 does it say that lifter should be replaced every 7500 miles. I have had an 09, 12, 13,and a 15 with the 110 engine. That is not listed in the maintenance schedule.
I under stand if I were to buy a high lift cam and install it, or higher pressure valve springs. These are stock bikes we are talking about.
I am also 100% positive if that was a requirement for a stock 110 motor all these motors would not have been replaced or rebuilt under warranty if the lifter had not been replaced at 7500 miles. Mine have never been replaced prior to HD covering two motors with failures, both over 40K miles.
Post by: J.D. on February 06, 2017, 08:17:00 AM
SBC lifters are good for about .550" lift. Even stock cams on these big Twin Cam engines are pushing the limit. Way too many catastrophic failures to say otherwise.
Post by: ultrafxr on February 06, 2017, 08:24:29 AM
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Post by: J.D. on February 06, 2017, 04:14:21 PM
Most will fail outside of warranty is absolutely right on. Or just put out a TSB with a new maintenance recommendation but don't recall it. Better yet offer a conversion kit the dealer can sell then install for you.
Again and again the consumer pays to correct Harley's design flaws.
Post by: smkymtnboy on February 06, 2017, 04:48:37 PM
Post by: ultrafxr on February 06, 2017, 05:51:51 PM
kind of surprised there has not been a class action lawsuit with these engines. lawyers just love this stuff. :nixweiss:There was several years ago after all the problems with the 2007s with the then new 110.
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Post by: coloradotom on February 06, 2017, 06:16:18 PM
kind of surprised there has not been a class action lawsuit with these engines. lawyers just love this stuff. :nixweiss:
Me, I get a new motor every couple of years. While under warranty I am not replacing lifters, and I'll continue to grenade these motors until I hit the magic 75k. Then the motor will get worked & done right by not-HD.
Edit - I also made it only 8k before issues. Had half a camshalft snap ring on the oil plug magnet.
Post by: Indenial on February 08, 2017, 05:15:11 PM
Post by: jachd17 on February 08, 2017, 07:06:20 PM
Post by: J.D. on February 08, 2017, 07:11:05 PM
Honestly though with adjustable pushrods a lifter job isn't terribly difficult or time consuming. Sure better than an oil pump full of metal jiblets.
Post by: T-Hawk on February 08, 2017, 08:17:18 PM
The only parts replaced was the clutch, which was my choice... and the front wheel bearings, because I can't stop the wheelies.
T-Hawk
Post by: DJA on March 03, 2017, 09:58:40 AM
I am wondering about Liqui-Moly for the engine.
What I notice is how much quieter my tranny and motor are when using Amsoil.
Just my opinion
Post by: WTF Chuck on March 03, 2017, 10:18:41 AM
Post by: ultrafxr on March 03, 2017, 04:11:51 PM
Well I am closing in on 40000 miles on my 14 with just regular maintenance, oil changes between 4000 and 5000 miles running Liqui Moly 10W-60 Motor Oil. for the last 30000 miles Top end is still very quite. Heavy duty Shock proof in the gear box and what ever I have around in the primary. Fingers crossedBe afraid, be very afraid. Regardless of how well maintained it is the lifters are still a very, very weak point on the 110s. I know 'cause I had lifter failure four times - twice each on my '07 and my '12. Maybe your '14 has been improved with the SE lifters but I'd still be nervous. Just sayin'. Good luck.
Post by: FLSTFI Dave on March 07, 2017, 06:23:09 AM
Well I am closing in on 40000 miles on my 14 with just regular maintenance, oil changes between 4000 and 5000 miles running Liqui Moly 10W-60 Motor Oil. for the last 30000 miles Top end is still very quite. Heavy duty Shock proof in the gear box and what ever I have around in the primary. Fingers crossed
Be afraid, be very afraid. Regardless of how well maintained it is the lifters are still a very, very weak point on the 110s. I know 'cause I had lifter failure four times - twice each on my '07 and my '12. Maybe your '14 has been improved with the SE lifters but I'd still be nervous. Just sayin'. Good luck.
I know a 14 CVO Limited had is lifter go out with 21K on the bike while we were riding out in WA, a long way from home.
One of my best friends lifters went out on his 15 CVO Road Glide ultra with 35K on the motor. My 15 CVO Road Glide had lifters go out with 43K on the motor.
Luckily these bikes were under warranty, as its about a 6K repair, as two of the three required motor replacement.
Compared to that its pretty cost effective to change to better lifters.
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Post by: smenard415 on March 28, 2017, 02:44:00 PM
I thought I was lucky but at 35,000 and just after getting home from a 2400 mile trip around Lake Superior my 2009 S/E Roadglide ate a lifter. At least it waited until I got home to self destruct. No internal mods, consistent Redline oil changes and mostly two up touring. It did have a Master-Tune and a 30 tooth sprocket.
Well what's a boy to do. Had the 117 kit installed while it was apart. Hoping the milder cam and the S&S lifters I used will keep it alive and dependable for at least 30,000 more. I love my orange beast and plan to keep it.
Having worked in several dealerships I can say that it seems to be hit or miss with the Twin Cams. I do believe that there were several design and or manufacturing flaws inherent with all Twin Cams but really present on the 110's, ie, tensioners, compensators, lifters, God awful valve train noise, crank issues, etc. I also believe that Mother HD knew about all these issues and just turned a blind eye.
Do love my 2009 S/E Roadglide though and I plan on keeping her fit and running. :soapbox:
SteveM
Post by: Rooster on March 28, 2017, 08:47:44 PM
Greetings,I believe you just hit on the main problem >:(
I thought I was lucky but at 35,000 and just after getting home from a 2400 mile trip around Lake Superior my 2009 S/E Roadglide ate a lifter. At least it waited until I got home to self destruct. No internal mods, consistent Redline oil changes and mostly two up touring. It did have a Master-Tune and a 30 tooth sprocket.
Well what's a boy to do. Had the 117 kit installed while it was apart. Hoping the milder cam and the S&S lifters I used will keep it alive and dependable for at least 30,000 more. I love my orange beast and plan to keep it.
Having worked in several dealerships I can say that it seems to be hit or miss with the Twin Cams. I do believe that there were several design and or manufacturing flaws inherent with all Twin Cams but really present on the 110's, ie, tensioners, compensators, lifters, God awful valve train noise, crank issues, etc. I also believe that Mother HD knew about all these issues and just turned a blind eye.
Do love my 2009 S/E Roadglide though and I plan on keeping her fit and running. :soapbox:
SteveM
Post by: eaglecvma on April 04, 2017, 08:36:27 PM
Post by: 05Quadrasteer on April 04, 2017, 08:51:50 PM
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Post by: Davestune on April 08, 2017, 11:52:48 PM
all these new bikes are chitboxes to me
sorry just how i feel about the garbage after the evo
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Post by: Davestune on June 13, 2017, 07:33:02 PM
Untouched at 40k.well thats a sad statement, Not at you but change lifters @ 20k
im kinda stuck with this heap, but its nice to push a button and do 90 on highway, I order shocks for this thing and I think I want to hop it up :pepper:
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Post by: OBB on July 07, 2017, 03:07:11 PM
My 110 is still in a box untouched does that count :)Only if you've hauled it around in a vehicle for over 25k Miles.
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Post by: Browzin Bub on July 08, 2017, 10:31:50 PM
When the dealer broken down the engine, turns out my bike was a Monday or Friday production bike, no SE components... 110 with 103 guts... know wonder the engine failed. MoCo still won't explain why.
Maybe a class action is needed, considering we spent what we did for the CVO "Cream of the crop".
Post by: smkymtnboy on July 09, 2017, 12:24:54 AM
My '11 SERGU, experienced lifter failure @ 15,589 miles one year ago, while returning from a trip to the Smokies and the Dragon.that would make me mad! >:( one thing for it break down,but paying for less than what you intended on getting. most of the time I am patient on problems. that would get my blood boiling. >:( be interesting to see how moco handles this. :nixweiss:
When the dealer broken down the engine, turns out my bike was a Monday or Friday production bike, no SE components... 110 with 103 guts... know wonder the engine failed. MoCo still won't explain why.
Maybe a class action is needed, considering we spent what we did for the CVO "Cream of the crop".
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Post by: mslcpa on November 10, 2017, 12:39:27 PM
When I look at the new bikes, nothing out there floats my boat so I plan on keeping Captain Morgan for a long time. So, besides regular scheduled stuff, we'll just keep doing the preventative maintenance as the miles add up.
Post by: skratch on November 10, 2017, 02:06:11 PM
Replaced the HD lifters with S&S Premium and adjustable pushrods at $44K to prevent another grenade (no more warranty).
wouldn't it have been cheaper to just buy a new bike? :D
I've got 35,000 on mine now. still have 2 years left on warranty. if it lasts then near the end of warranty, i'll probably go ahead and do the s&s or even a bb from gmr.
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Post by: danner55 on November 17, 2017, 07:29:53 AM
We just got home from 26 days & 6800 mile trip. Bike ran great pulling a Bushtec Trailer. On day 25 Fullsac header broke apart & had to get it welded to get back to Florida. I'm waiting on a new Fullsac header & am looking into changing out the lifters & inner cam bearings before putting the exhaust back together. I've pretty much made the decision to do this as to go with another 4 year extended warranty.
Post by: msemersky on November 17, 2017, 05:49:23 PM
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Post by: longlast on November 18, 2017, 05:55:38 PM
I changed the lifters to S&S primium lifters and put in Torrington fully compliant cam bearings as I had it apart probably didn't need the lifters but did them and the bearings them then then later.
Have to change the lower cylinder gaskets this winter they're seeping a bit. I'll be changing the rings to Total Seal Rings. I've also just ordered up some rocker lockers ROCKOUT Harley Rocker Shaft Inserts STOP THAT TOP END TAPPING!!! Twin Cam V-Twin
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ROCKOUT-Harley-Rocker-Shaft-Inserts-STOP-THAT-TOP-END-TAPPING-Twin-Cam-V-Twin/232172454829?hash=item360e8e83ad:g:2jgAAOSwu1VW220S
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Extended warranty until 2022 so I'm going to ride it and not worry about anything until the end of 2021
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Post by: Tedster on March 24, 2018, 09:58:58 AM
Post by: smkymtnboy on March 24, 2018, 10:16:59 AM
Hey Guys, i have a 2011 Road Glide Ultra CVO and have been riding Harley's for more than six years. I bought this bike with 37,000 miles on it, it had a stage II tuner kit and upgraded cams. At 41,000 I had to have an entire engine rebuild. I should have done more reading up on this site and others after the rebuild. That rebuild was done two years ago, i just started getting engine noise that sounded like lifters. Looks like I will be needing ANOTHER engine rebuild at 60,000 miles. Unfortunately I did not renew my warranty, what could go wrong in 20,000 miles??? I am amazed that Harley riders have not raised this issue with the government in regard to defective products. A $45,000 product that has a motor that will fall apart at 20,000 miles? They finally had to admit they have a problem with the ABS brake systems because of thousands of complaints. As owners, we have to shell out $900 a year for a warranty just because we know that this product has serious defects. Why are Harley owners accepting these serious flaws in the product and shelling out thousands of dollars on warranties to cover up the defects? When you read postings from Harley mechanics on a variety of sites they talk about Catastrophic Failures that happen all the time. Harley has been building bikes for a long time but it's issues like this that have people riding other brands. I would like to hear other riders thoughts.i do not disagree with you. you probably will be asked to go to member introduction and introduce yourself. you are right this is a good sight with lotsa ole-timers with a wealth of knowledge.
Post by: Dacuda on March 28, 2018, 05:38:46 PM
Post by: wtfdskin on March 28, 2018, 08:41:29 PM
A few of the stockers looked suspect. Could feel a ridge on 2 of them.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180329/6137583a64925510026345392f71371f.jpg)
Post by: jimcb1 on April 13, 2018, 02:22:18 PM
Post by: shaochieh.young on May 26, 2018, 01:21:58 PM
55,000 on my 2014 cvo limitedNot even a broken water pump?
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Post by: J.D. on May 28, 2018, 09:57:33 AM
Lot of guys will do the rocker lockers if the top end is noisy.
Keep an eye on the compensator too.
Post by: Unko on May 30, 2018, 02:50:23 PM
Post by: smkymtnboy on May 30, 2018, 05:05:31 PM
I’m gonna take a look at a 2007 FLHRSE3, second owner, excellent condition, with 42,000 miles with all service records. No major work or recall work except for regular interval service/fluid changes and tune ups, done on bike. He’s asking $10,900 for it, of course I’m gonna offer less for it if all goes well with the inspection. Any suggestions on how much to offer, what to keep an eye and ear for? Mahalo in advance! (I’m aware of the 07’ 110 motor issues. Maybe this one’s a unicorn? lol)run the v.i.n. for head recall. with 42000 m i am sure it has been done. a quick check for piece of mind.
Post by: Indenial on May 30, 2018, 05:08:22 PM
Post by: smkymtnboy on May 30, 2018, 05:09:14 PM
You may want to look for a 2009 or later, as they re-designed the frame and the ride is/was much improved. If you have a good reason to get the 2007, go ahead. But a 2007 with that many miles probably isn't a great deal.gotta, agree!
Post by: PAhunter on June 04, 2018, 07:23:48 PM
So now I after reading this thread and you all reminded me of issues I was fearing then and now again .. If you think back when you first bought your bike, and I see many now w 30k miles that lost lifters.. Would you say, just ride it. At the very least get ESP. If I have the bucks do it right and change all the items in question w very good aftermarket parts and put a 117ci while your at it. It really sounds good, very quiet, and rides very well now that it has 13" shocks on it.
Post by: smkymtnboy on June 04, 2018, 09:36:14 PM
Post by: aclass on June 05, 2018, 08:14:39 AM
44,750 miles and sounds like it is coming apart. stopped at dealer service manager says yeah you got a problem. 6 days til esp expires. :o :)
:o Good luck and keep us posted.
Post by: smkymtnboy on June 22, 2018, 06:38:15 PM
44,750 miles and sounds like it is coming apart. stopped at dealer service manager says yeah you got a problem. 6 days til esp expires. :o :)dealer says esp approved all repairs recommended. at this time i do not know what they are. i will be talking with the service mgr tomorrow. will report back!
Post by: happyman on June 28, 2018, 11:10:56 AM
31k on 2011.5. i bought the esp so i would ride and stop being a worry wart. not saying others are worried. i just felt with the litfers,compensators,and radio gps electronic hiccups it was worth it. at 31k my repairs thus far have more than paid for the esp. these were items i did not see comings. the engine is still strong at 31k and totally stock to actually answer the question.
if your had a bike that you never knew when it was going to break and ruined your vacation or planned trip. dared not get too far from home with it because of multiple failures, you would worry, as most do not sure bout the worry wart!
Post by: brwk on June 29, 2018, 12:56:47 PM
Post by: ultra13 on June 30, 2018, 03:26:01 PM
Post by: zigzag930 on June 30, 2018, 07:47:52 PM
Bike brought to my local indy. Tare down revealed failures of the oil pump, cam and lifters. Not sure which failed first but it resulted in trash circulating around the engine. Further tear down revealed scored pistons and cylinders. ESP has approved a new long block, which will arrive (hopefully) in about a week.
I am the second owner of this bike, so I don't know the full history. I've been owner for over a year and haven't had any issues up to this point. New motor will get S&S lifters just to be sure they don't become a problem down the road.
Post by: bbrown on June 30, 2018, 08:58:55 PM
Post by: allaninman1 on June 30, 2018, 09:47:13 PM
couple thousand miles and reading about the “issues” with cam bearings and lifters, has them upgraded but their didn’t seem to be any problem other than one lifter had a bit of “frosting” on one roller. Glad I had it taken care of but not sure it’s necessary!
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Post by: Skipper on July 10, 2018, 06:23:51 PM
Post by: Wesleypalms on July 16, 2018, 05:00:32 PM
Post by: Rooster on July 17, 2018, 09:29:58 AM
Red 2011 SEUC. After 20.000 km lifter failure damaged the engine. Changed to S&S 124"LC no problem at all.Sorry for the failure but I believe you have made a good choice and wish you many happy miles from here. Let us know more about the new 124 when you have some miles on it.
Post by: SOCAL296 on July 29, 2018, 11:41:34 AM
I didn’t want to believe any of these stories, but here I am. Thank goodness I am a firm believer in the Extended Warranty. But a month ago I paid for the upgraded parts that are now junk
Post by: SHRADER on July 29, 2018, 03:46:41 PM
Post by: CVOjh on August 05, 2018, 03:08:15 AM
Preventively swapped lifters and oil pump to S&S @25000 Km.
Post by: UK1 on August 08, 2018, 08:29:24 PM
Post by: Rooster on August 09, 2018, 10:59:18 AM
Post by: Hoel Motors on August 13, 2018, 11:03:02 AM
Post by: ultrarider123 on August 13, 2018, 11:37:29 AM
On Saturday my 2012 Road Glide with 41,800 miles, never a issue, never had the engine modded or opened, destroyed itself from the inside, cam area they said. Covered by ESP with new engine. Went and got me a 2018 RG today. Hope that doesn't happen on a trip, I was heading to Sturgis.
Sorry about your Skunk and good luck on the '18.
By the way, great picture and still one of if not the best color combo on a SERG.... :2vrolijk_21:
Post by: TriDan on August 26, 2018, 09:09:04 PM
In Jan/Feb I decided buying an extended plan would be a good idea, so I did. That'll last for 5 years. Should be ready for a new bike by then.
Post by: lowflight on August 26, 2018, 09:28:43 PM
Post by: bbrown on August 26, 2018, 10:16:24 PM
Post by: Supershooter on August 26, 2018, 10:43:59 PM
Supetshooter
Post by: Para Bellum on August 27, 2018, 02:25:42 AM
2014 CVO Limited with a 110. Bought it with 25K last April. Today I noticed it was at 56,980. Still no issues. Going about 500 miles one way on a trip this weekend :)Having ESP is a great idea on 110s. If you haven't seen the many posts on here about 110 lifters going bad and taking out the whole engine, and the vacation with it, it would be worth it to check out the topic. One bad lifter can ruin your whole day.
In Jan/Feb I decided buying an extended plan would be a good idea, so I did. That'll last for 5 years. Should be ready for a new bike by then.
Post by: SERK3 on August 27, 2018, 11:01:49 AM
Post by: BigLock on August 27, 2018, 07:19:32 PM
Post by: Rooster on August 28, 2018, 09:59:01 AM
Post by: fastfreddy on August 28, 2018, 03:36:51 PM
Post by: Para Bellum on August 30, 2018, 02:13:34 AM
My 16 just bout to roll 30k, I put some S&S lifters in it at 20k, but it still has morning tickness and same as it was when it’s hot :nixweiss:Lol. Good one.
Post by: Hoel Motors on December 22, 2018, 03:25:53 PM
Put in T-Man 555 torque cams and large axel lifters......also hi-vol oil pump, cam support plate, new TTS mastertune and D&D fatcat exhaust
Post by: wmustang on December 22, 2018, 09:56:47 PM
Will however put a better set of lifter in at about 10000 next time and keep better eye on things
Post by: do-dahman on December 30, 2018, 12:01:12 AM
Post by: harleychef2011 on January 10, 2019, 06:53:25 PM
Guess I will get my bike back in two to six weeks! Ugh! :( :( :(
Post by: bradthomas1965 on February 03, 2019, 04:46:50 PM
I just bought the bike used, fortunately I got the extended warranty.
Dealer had 3 other bikes in wit bad cans.
Post by: 08glide on February 11, 2019, 03:58:25 PM
Post by: aclass on February 11, 2019, 07:16:47 PM
Post by: TriDan on March 01, 2019, 10:02:01 AM
Post by: KY-SESG on March 24, 2019, 03:33:49 PM
Post by: WTF Chuck on March 25, 2019, 01:44:22 PM
My 14 CVO Ultra took the big LIFTER chit in Maggie Valley last Sept. At 59500 miles.
So there you go they will all do it sooner or later.
Thanks again Joe
Post by: ColdRain on April 25, 2019, 07:23:59 AM
Post by: Davestune on May 02, 2019, 09:08:27 PM
i lost all faith in these new bikes and hate the company now nothing like it was in the late 70's 80's
im done ranting
Post by: dayne66 on May 03, 2019, 09:49:20 AM
Post by: smkymtnboy on May 03, 2019, 07:28:38 PM
57665km....got touched......started by finding scored cam lobes.......and made it all the way through, replacing parts along the way, to the trans for some bearings......$8000....cost me $56....2 weeks left on ESP.....probably gonna extend it.mine had 44400+miles when it started with lifter noise! six days left on esp!! :2vrolijk_21:
Post by: 2372ighost on June 08, 2020, 10:36:37 PM
Post by: jimcb1 on June 10, 2020, 09:50:29 AM
Post by: SERK3 on June 10, 2020, 10:13:13 AM
Post by: WRE4U on June 10, 2020, 11:39:51 AM
2012 with 22K with a SE Pro tuner, 2 into 1 V&H pipes....no problems (so far)
Post by: spence on June 24, 2020, 03:45:27 PM
Hello Guys, just wondering how many 110's are stock or maybe stage one modified that are still running well with 25K miles or more on them. I have complained about my lifters ticking at 3 thousand RPM and initially the fifth gear wine. At this point the fifth gear wine seems to be getting less and less Any other engine noises are the same as when it was new. I don't want to take my bike in and have the cam bearings, lifters etc replaced if not needed. I have extended my warranty to 2020 so if the engine goes out I will be covered. For the record my motor runs great except for the lifter noise at 3K. Also I would like to mention that on cold start up the engine is quiet (no lifter noise). I am only at 22k on my 09. I missed a year because of back surgery. Most of my rides are long distance. I drive it locally twice a month just for kicks. All feedback will help me decide if I need to be proactive regarding lifters and cam bearings. Thanks in advance.CAHDBIKERI had a 2016 with the 110, every 20 to 22 thousand miles I had to replace the lifters. Pretty common with everyone hat I know around here that had 110's. I now have a 117 so not sure how the lifters will be.
Post by: chaos901 on June 30, 2020, 02:18:37 PM
Kind of reluctant to say that because we have a four day trip this weekend.
Post by: COB on July 22, 2020, 04:47:21 PM
Post by: FLSTFI Dave on July 23, 2020, 06:34:39 AM
Going to 117 depends on if you want to keep warranty or not. I would not so HD kit for the 117, many better options for 117 out there.
Post by: Backroads3 on September 12, 2020, 10:20:20 AM
Post by: Gmanuelg1 on September 16, 2020, 09:40:32 PM
Post by: DALE#3 on December 25, 2020, 10:17:43 AM
From reading every post.I bet more issue's happen when you ride h-way for extended trips beyond 150 high rev miles at a steady rate oppose to shorter quickey trips?
After a huge depreciation fallout recently.A sell before fix has to be decided.
Curious on best replacement cam chest kit?
Post by: smkymtnboy on December 25, 2020, 02:01:12 PM
Bumping up for my post.2012 SG. with 25.500.Justa ticking away.Never touched.Runs great.lifters lifters and lifters. well, maybe, a compensator
From reading every post.I bet more issue's happen when you ride h-way for extended trips beyond 150 high rev miles at a steady rate oppose to shorter quickey trips?
After a huge depreciation fallout recently.A sell before fix has to be decided.
Curious on best replacement cam chest kit?
Post by: DALE#3 on January 01, 2021, 06:53:47 PM
lifters lifters and lifters. well, maybe, a compensator
A compensator? Meaning?
Post by: AirCav101 on January 01, 2021, 07:12:35 PM
65K everything good
Compensator changed for A recall but everything else is OG!
Secret is to Ride Hard! 2 speeds ON and off.
And... Don't f$%*ing try and get more power... you are killing the engine.
I always enjoyed chitting on all the 750 and 1000 bikes on my little CBR600... Skill counts for a lot. On these bikes with the 131 engines installed....
How many inches from the edge of your tires is BRAND NEW?
Post by: dayne66 on January 01, 2021, 07:34:01 PM
Some compensators......the 5th one was recently installed.....the forth had only 3000 km on it.
A compensator? Meaning?
Post by: DALE#3 on January 03, 2021, 09:11:56 AM
Some compensators......the 5th one was recently installed.....the forth had only 3000 km on it.
Sorry not the answer I was looking for.This is more better.Guess a 2012 was updated
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touring-models/752104-newbie-what-is-a-compensator.html
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