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CVO Social => Off Topic => Topic started by: Bagger on February 11, 2007, 09:25:52 AM
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Anyone watch the Bud Shootout last night? Daytona 500 qualifying is this afternoon. I was talking with Howie in a PM last night with about 10 laps to go in the shootout. The only thing worse than the NASCAR season break is not being able to ride my scoot. Anyway, its NASCAR season again. I'm headed down to Enterprise next Sunday to watch the Daytona 500 with some folks from my company. Our Spring Talladega tickets arrived, and we just renewed our Fall Talladega tickets. WOOOOHOOO! It's ON, Baby!
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I am a North Carolina (former) NASCAR fan. I live 5 miles from DEI and most of the race shops here near Charlotte. Since they let the rice in (those fine folks that brought you Peral Harbor), I'm out. They lost me as a fan. :(
I'll definitely be in the minority, but I will have more time to ride on Sundays. The roads are pretty empty here during the races. . .
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I am a North Carolina (former) NASCAR fan. I live 5 miles from DEI and most of the race shops here near Charlotte. Since they let the rice in (those fine folks that brought you Peral Harbor), I'm out. They lost me as a fan. :(
I'll definitely be in the minority, but I will have more time to ride on Sundays. The roads are pretty empty here during the races. . .
I'm doing my level best to overlook that. I did take great pleasure in watching Dale Jarrett go straight to the back of the pack last night. The paradox in my house.........Renea works for Toyota Motor Manufacturing Alabama. I can't win. Oh well, that's racin'.
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I am a North Carolina (former) NASCAR fan. I live 5 miles from DEI and most of the race shops here near Charlotte. Since they let the rice in (those fine folks that brought you Peral Harbor), I'm out. They lost me as a fan. :(
I'll definitely be in the minority, but I will have more time to ride on Sundays. The roads are pretty empty here during the races. . .
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Then and when the Panthers are playing!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
The joys of no traffic!
UPC we will meet and ride soon!
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Shoot,
I would NEVER ride during a Panthers game. I live for football. Other than HD, :devilish: my season tickets are my biggest selfish expense!
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I am glad season is starting. I enjoy the racing. I don't care that Toyota is in Nascar, hell they have not screwed up the truck series have they?? Think about it. Plus the more competition the better. Rising tide raises all boats you know.
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If your interested, get in on the CVO CUP Fantasy Racing League.
So come on guys, get suited up and join the CVO CUP!!!
The overall points winner will recieve a one of a kind hand made CVO CUP Trophey. Made with cvo takeoffs from my bike!
It's free!! So get in on the action :2vrolijk_21: :helmet: :helmet:
Read ALL of this page before clicking here http://racing.fantasysports.yahoo.com/auto/
- In order to join you must establish a yahoo I.D.
-By clicking link above you can create your I.D. You'll need highlighted info so write it down.
- Then click on CREATE/ JOIN GROUP
'' '' Team name is ''Your race team''
" " JOIN EXISTING GROUP
" " JOIN PRIVATE GROUP
" " CVO CUP RACING
Group I.D. and password have been updated for '07 season.
Our private group name is: CVO CUP RACING
'07 Group I.D.#: 2858
'07 Password: eagleriderswfo
The group I.D. # & password will only need to be entered to register the initial time.
Hope all goes well with your initial log in.
Use whatever name you want for your team name.
I used my screen name from this site for my team name.
Good Luck,
Grover
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Already there, Grover. Don't have a clue what I'm doing, but I'm in. :drink:
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I'm calling out OTIS, Spiderman, Spydglide, Hoist, Twolane, BLM & all the other inaugural CVO CUP competitors to report to the red trailer and get signed up!
So come an all you Ricky Bobby wannabe's lets go racin'!
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Already there, Grover. Don't have a clue what I'm doing, but I'm in. :drink:
That's great Bagger :2vrolijk_21:
You'll get a feel for it as the season goes on.
You can only use each driver up to 9 times throughout the season. After Daytona you also get qualifying points for the top four qualifiers.
You can keep your drivers active for 9 weeks and then change them around, or you can change drivers from track to track depending on their strengths/weaknesses. It just depends on how much time/effort you want to put into it. It's all for fun and humor....But do you have what it takes to be the CHAMPION!!!
See ya on pit road :helmet: :xyxthumbs:
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Thanks for the invite Mark. I'm now the SERKER team. I've never done one of these Fantasy Leagues and don't see any instructions on the Team page. Do you have any simple instructions for participating in this? Thank a lot! ;) Hoist! 8)
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What's that "A" List, "B" List, "C" List thing? Any crash course on this? :confused5: Hoist! 8)
Added: Are we supposed to pick anything before qualifying? I guess I'm going for "Rookie of the Year"!
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Crash course:
The Groups are picked by Yahoo and will stay that way all season A, B, & C
A = Top tier drivers - you get to pick 2 of these drivers to be on your team for each race
B = Mid pack guys - you get 4 per race
C = Others - you get 2 per race
Once you've picked your 8 drivers thats your team. You must pick before qualifying!!!
If any of your team members Qualify in the top 4 (i think?) you get qualifying bonus points
By race time you must pick half of your team to actually "Play - or Race"
This means 1 Group A driver, 2 Group B drivers, and 1 Group C driver.
These 4 active drivers are the ones that earn you points in a race based on finish position as well as bonus points for laps led and most led I think also.
Each driver can only be "Raced" 9 times in the season. But as long as you haven't used him up yet he can be on your team and earn qualifying points.
So each week you look at that race and think who you want to race and maybe pick a good qualifier also.
Just like the real thing consistency is the key, and not forgetting to change your drivers between races. You really don't want a short track line up going into a superspeedway - trust me, I missed a few race lineup changes last year. Your line up has to be done prior to qualifying but you can change which driver is active up till race time. That just about does it....for a crash course!
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What's that "A" List, "B" List, "C" List thing? Any crash course on this? :confused5: Hoist! 8)
Added: Are we supposed to pick anything before qualifying? I guess I'm going for "Rookie of the Year"!
Because Daytona has has a different qualifying format than the rest of the season there's no qualifying points awarded. You can choose your team for Daytona anytime before Feb 18th.
For the remaining races of the season you must pick your team before the Friday morning of each race. By the time the season gets rolling you'll get a feel for it.
You need to pick 2 drivers in Group A
'' 4 drivers in Group B
'' 2 drivers in Group C
The way the drivers are setup in each grouping A, B & C will remain that way throughout the year. So as the season goes on it gets more interesting on what drivers to choose, because you will have eventually used up some of the top drivers.
You need to ''activate'' the drivers that you feel will do the best at that weekends race i.e., plate tracks, short tracks & intermediate.
You can ''activate'' or ''deactivate'' the drivers on your ''team'' up to 5 minutes before the scheduled start of each race.
You can only ''activate'' 1 driver in group A
2 drivers in group B
1 driver in group C
Your ''activated'' drivers will earn you the points in each race.
Each driver can only be activated 9 times throughout the season. Once he's used 9 times you won't get points for him.
You receive qualifying points for the top 4 qualifiers in each race (after Daytona), if one or all of those drivers are on your ''team''. They don't have to be activated to receive points just on of the 8 drivers you have chosen that week.
I don't worry about qualifying points. I just pick the drivers that I think will do good in the race at each particular track. And if they qualify good it's just a small bonus.
This may sound confusing, but once we get started it'll come pretty easy.
For more info surf around here for awhile http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/racing/rules/
Any more questions please ask.
Take care,
Grover
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It does not appear I can change my selections for next week, once you select a driver, even though they're not activated. I should have waited until after qualifying for this race? I thought they all needed to get in before qualifying. Is everyone's selections hidden from others? I can only see mine when I click on the various teams. Any other pointers? I spend enough time on the computer. ::) Don't really want to read all the rules. I'd rather keep it simple and just play! ;) Hoist! 8)
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It does not appear I can change my selections for next week, once you select a driver, even though they're not activated. I should have waited until after qualifying for this race? I thought they all needed to get in before qualifying. Is everyone's selections hidden from others? I can only see mine when I click on the various teams. Any other pointers? I spend enough time on the computer. ::) Don't really want to read all the rules. I'd rather keep it simple and just play! ;) Hoist! 8)
You should be able to click on the select button in each group, then go and make your changes. I just checked out my teams and was able to change drivers around.
The other teams will be hidden from viewing until after the deadline is up. After that you can see what drivers are on others teams.
Always make sure to click on Submit Changes after you've made changes, if you don't do it they won't hold.
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You should be able to click on the select button in each group, then go and make your changes. I just checked out my teams and was able to change drivers around.
The other teams will be hidden from viewing until after the deadline is up. After that you can see what drivers are on others teams.
Always make sure to click on Submit Changesafter you've made changes, if you don't do it they won't hold.
Thanks Mark, I'm starting to get it a little. Looks like we'll have a good ole time! I better get that funny smelling stuff out of my intake manifold though! ::) Hoist! 8)
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Thanks Mark, I'm starting to get it a little. Looks like we'll have a good ole time! I better get that funny smelling stuff out of my intake manifold though! ::) Hoist! 8)
And the BB's out of your frame rails......
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Hot damn, hot damn! That boy's got the juice on! Tooey! ;D Hoist! 8)
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I'm calling out OTIS, Spiderman, Spydglide, Hoist, Twolane, BLM & all the other inaugural CVO CUP competitors to report to the red trailer and get signed up!
So come an all you Ricky Bobby wannabe's lets go racin'!
I'm seeing OTIS and Spydglide in the member list, but not the others (unless they've chosen some "stealth" team names).
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I'm seeing OTIS and Spydglide in the member list, but not the others (unless they've chosen some "stealth" team names).
Hoist=SERKER
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# 8 ........................... nufffffffffffffffff said ! :2vrolijk_21:
Bubba
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Im in used screen name :jalapeno:
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It does not appear I can change my selections for next week, once you select a driver, even though they're not activated. I should have waited until after qualifying for this race? I thought they all needed to get in before qualifying. Is everyone's selections hidden from others? I can only see mine when I click on the various teams. Any other pointers? I spend enough time on the computer. ::) Don't really want to read all the rules. I'd rather keep it simple and just play! ;) Hoist! 8)
HOIST, IT LOOKS LIKE IT GOING TO BE A LONG YEAR AND ALOT OF BLACK FLAGS FOR YOU ;) GOOD LUCK :drink:
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HOIST, IT LOOKS LIKE IT GOING TO BE A LONG YEAR AND ALOT OF BLACK FLAGS FOR YOU ;) GOOD LUCK :drink:
Well, there's always beginners luck, huh? ;) Hoist! 8)
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I'm in, got my lineup selected for Daytona and can't wait for the Green Flag to drop With all the chit goin down in Daytona already, this is gonna be a great season. 4 crew chiefs suspended and the season hasn't even started. Looks like everyone's got Hell(ton) to pay LOL
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Puullllleeeeeeeassssssssseeeeeee someone promise me Dave " ThePain" isn't gonna take Benny's place in the booth. I mute the TV everytime that windbag is on the screen, which lately is all the damn time. Can we start a petition to 86 him ?
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I'm in, got my lineup selected for Daytona and can't wait for the Green Flag to drop With all the chit goin down in Daytona already, this is gonna be a great season. 4 crew chiefs suspended and the season hasn't even started. Looks like everyone's got Hell(ton) to pay LOL
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Puullllleeeeeeeassssssssseeeeeee someone promise me Dave " ThePain" isn't gonna take Benny's place in the booth. I mute the TV everytime that windbag is on the screen, which lately is all the damn time. Can we start a petition to 86 him ?
Well Brian, if Despain does take BP's place, we should be spared until July when NBC/TNT takes over from FOX/FX. Other than that he's only on SPEED. I can't stand the f**ker either. I've been a Mark Martin fan for years, and I couldn't watch the Inside NASCAR show last night, in which Martin participated because that bonehead won't shut up.
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Well Brian, if Despain does take BP's place, we should be spared until July when NBC/TNT takes over from FOX/FX. Other than that he's only on SPEED. I can't stand the f**ker either. I've been a Mark Martin fan for years, and I couldn't watch the Inside NASCAR show last night, in which Martin participated because that bonehead won't shut up.
Thanks for reminding me Dave The Pain is a Speed Channel problem and not a network one.
later dude
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DONT LOOK GOOD FOR WALTRIP AND TEAM TOYOTA :oops: :o
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I'm doing my level best to overlook that. I did take great pleasure in watching Dale Jarrett go straight to the back of the pack last night. The paradox in my house.........Renea works for Toyota Motor Manufacturing Alabama. I can't win. Oh well, that's racin'.
Bagger,
I was of the same opinion as you and the Polecat, probably in a more perverse and vulgar way, when I first heard the news. Then, I got to ponderin' on that subject. The way I see it, Wealth is usually created by extracting or taking something from the Earth, such as Fossil Fuels, Precious Metals, Timber, etc. Germany and Japan were not blessed with all these, but those they did have, they have exhausted. These Countries have to have these things, they know they have to import them, and they know that takes MONEY. More money than they can make exporting Cars and Motorcycles to the US. I named Germany and Japan because their Cultures are totally different. Case in point; Daimler-Benz bought Chrysler, and Freightliner, and Detroit Diesel, and Western Star, and Ford Class 8 Truck, which is now Sterling, and American La-France, and Thomas Built Buses, and the list goes on, ad-infinitum. They didn't build chit, they just bought everything, and are probably sending all the profits back to the Mother Land, truth be known. That's why they just laid off 13,000 workers. More supply than demand, and no cushion, and they don't care, either. Now, on the other hand, Japan comes over here, and we welcome them with open arms too, but they build brand new, huge Toyota plants, create tens of thousands of new jobs, don't have anybody on retirement yet, don't worry about Strikes, and build a better quality Automobile, than most American makes. That's sad, but it's true. They've actually got Money to burn. Good thing is, they ain't sendin' it back to Japan. They are spending it and investing here, creating things. Like.......TRD. Some people are pokin' fun and callin' it "Turd." They may not win the Daytona 500 right out of the Gate, but they will be a force to be reckoned with, before to long. Having said all that, here's the real deal. If either of them get out of line, we'll kick their a$$es, and send 'em packin'. Whooped 'em real bad last time, and'll do it again. Possession being 9/10ths of the Law, all their chit would be ours. ;) There endeth the lesson. Later--HUBBARD
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So all hell broke loose and rained down on Michael Waltrip Racing. Chit even poor Buffy got nailed. Exactly what was the " foreign substance " in the carburetor ? Hubbard, you love goin fast, and you're involved in stock car racin, so you must know what they put in the fuel, or at least have a good guess. Share with us please
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So all hell broke loose and rained down on Michael Waltrip Racing. Chit even poor Buffy got nailed. Exactly what was the " foreign substance " in the carburetor ? Hubbard, you love goin fast, and you're involved in stock car racin, so you must know what they put in the fuel, or at least have a good guess. Share with us please
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Actually, the fuel itself, is almost impossible to cheat-up. To easy to detect. I don't think Waltrip was trying to cheat-up the Intake, either. I heard the other night they (NASCAR) found the substance to be oil. That sounds more like a failure in the valve train. More like a whoa-up, than a cheated-up. They all cheat in some way or another. They have to. But like King Richard said, "It ain't cheatin' unless you get caught." The one they watch the closest is Evernham. He's the smartest, IMO, hands down. Given, they're all smart, but Ray is dangerous. Later--HUBBARD
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Actually, the fuel itself, is almost impossible to cheat-up. To easy to detect. I don't think Waltrip was trying to cheat-up the Intake, either. I heard the other night they (NASCAR) found the substance to be oil. That sounds more like a failure in the valve train. More like a whoa-up, than a cheated-up. They all cheat in some way or another. They have to. But like King Richard said, "It ain't cheatin' unless you get caught." The one they watch the closest is Evernham. He's the smartest, IMO, hands down. Given, they're all smart, but Ray is dangerous. Later--HUBBARD
Well I'm inclined to go along with your train of thought on this, but NASCAR sure slammed MWR with some heavy fines and suspensions. They ejected the top MWR brass from the track, fined Mikey and Buffy 100 owner points each, took away Mikey's qualifying time. Given what you'e saying and the fact that Toyata is new and all I've heard is that NASCAR did not want to appear to be going after Toyota. Call me ignorant, this just doesn't add up if it's actually a mechanical problem
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Well I'm inclined to go along with your train of thought on this, but NASCAR sure slammed MWR with some heavy fines and suspensions. They ejected the top MWR brass from the track, fined Mikey and Buffy 100 owner points each, took away Mikey's qualifying time. Given what you'e saying and the fact that Toyata is new and all I've heard is that NASCAR did not want to appear to be going after Toyota. Call me ignorant, this just doesn't add up if it's actually a mechanical problem
Yeah, but nobody in Prison is guilty, either. That's just what I heard. I don't know it to be fact. NASCAR probably put on the little MWR Road and Pony Show, just to make those that hate Toyota think NASCAR hates 'em too, so they can sell some more tickets to the Daytona 500. Too much Power, Man. NASCAR's got too much power. Later--HUBBARD
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Actually, the fuel itself, is almost impossible to cheat-up. To easy to detect. I don't think Waltrip was trying to cheat-up the Intake, either. I heard the other night they (NASCAR) found the substance to be oil. That sounds more like a failure in the valve train. More like a whoa-up, than a cheated-up. They all cheat in some way or another. They have to. But like King Richard said, "It ain't cheatin' unless you get caught." The one they watch the closest is Evernham. He's the smartest, IMO, hands down. Given, they're all smart, but Ray is dangerous. Later--HUBBARD
Latest news I read on it this evening was that the "substance" ended up being some aviation fuel additive. Something NASCAR professed to have "never" seen in the garages before. With that crowd it's probably tough to ever really know for sure. If they really were dinking with the fuel, however, Waltrip was lucky the punishment levied was as light as it was. That's a whole different kettle of fish than the other violations found this session and NASCAR has always been hard on fuel cheats. Last time someone screwed with fuel (and got caught) was a few years ago now. Way before the recent ratcheting up of punishments. And the punishment then was more (in points) than Waltrip got now.
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Latest news I read on it this evening was that the "substance" ended up being some aviation fuel additive. Something NASCAR professed to have "never" seen in the garages before. With that crowd it's probably tough to ever really know for sure. If they really were dinking with the fuel, however, Waltrip was lucky the punishment levied was as light as it was. That's a whole different kettle of fish than the other violations found this session and NASCAR has always been hard on fuel cheats. Last time someone screwed with fuel (and got caught) was a few years ago now. Way before the recent ratcheting up of punishments. And the punishment then was more (in points) than Waltrip got now.
Ahhhhhhhhhh AVGAS I've used that trick before. Not good for H-D's, runs waaaaaaaaay to hot, but sure makes em get up and go. Thanks for the info Don
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Ahhhhhhhhhh AVGAS I've used that trick before. Not good for H-D's, runs waaaaaaaaay to hot, but sure makes em get up and go. Thanks for the info Don
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Me too Brian. Loved the way it made exhaust pipes look too.
Without knowing what Waltrip's crew (or some guy on his own) did for sure it's still almost easy to feel sorry for them. Almost.... All those poor Toyota teams staring out so far behind the curve with all the Toyota money pouring in to help them. Almost none actually guaranteed a spot to even start a race. The pressure on them from Toyota and sponsors has to be enormous. Yeap, can almost feel sorry for them. But not quite.... ;D
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Latest news I read on it this evening was that the "substance" ended up being some aviation fuel additive. Something NASCAR professed to have "never" seen in the garages before. With that crowd it's probably tough to ever really know for sure. If they really were dinking with the fuel, however, Waltrip was lucky the punishment levied was as light as it was. That's a whole different kettle of fish than the other violations found this session and NASCAR has always been hard on fuel cheats. Last time someone screwed with fuel (and got caught) was a few years ago now. Way before the recent ratcheting up of punishments. And the punishment then was more (in points) than Waltrip got now.
I stand corrected. Very disingenuous of MWR. Looks to me like the MWR Engine Builders couldn't produce enough Horsepower outa' the Toyota engine, so they tried to give it a little "Boost", to hide their incompetence. I guess the "New Kid on the Block", favortism they thought they had, based on all the hype NASCAR spewed about, turned out to be wishful thinking on their part. Bet Ol' Mikey's on the carpet as we speak, 'splainin' why the $29,000,000.00 TRD gave MWR, just wasn't enough to get the job done, so he had no choice but to do what he had to do, to make a showing. Or somethin' like that. JMO. Later--HUBBARD
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Hubbard,
You ever run AVGAS in ole Maudie ? I know Torco is your fuel of choice, but was just curious if you'd tried it. It's higher octane than racin fuel I believe. I'm thinkin I was told 120 octane.
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Hubbard,
You ever run AVGAS in ole Maudie ? I know Torco is your fuel of choice, but was just curious if you'd tried it. It's higher octane than racin fuel I believe. I'm thinkin I was told 120 octane.
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No, can't say that I have. I tried to buy some from the Local Airport years ago, but they wouldn't sell it to me. Back then, the rumor on the street was it was 128 Octane, and was murder on the valve-train. The local Distributor here for Torco, used to have 112 Octane available, but last year only offered 110 Octane. Why, I don't know. It's only available here, during the Dirt Track season. Later--HUBBARD
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No doubt that TRD will be a force to be reckoned with sooner than later. Until reading thru these last posts, I forgot that the individual teams built the motors and not the manufacturer's of the motor. MWR and the other Toyota teams are under tremendous pressure to perform.
When Toyota and Honda were in CART (now Champcar with Ford Cosworth) the engine makers did all the development and leased the engines to the teams. They put the pressure on themselves and spent the money until they were on top.
Hubbard is into racing and has put a lot of light on the subject with his posts in this thread. He is correct in that Nascar has too much power. I'm not a fan of this politically correct racing any more. Too much BS and not enough racing. Get rid of restrictor plates-have them drag anchors if they need to slow them down.
Going from 2nd or 3rd to 17th or worse because you get out of line and try to make a pass is no fun to watch. Isn't fun for the drivers either. The Shootout last Saturday night was painful to watch-plain boring. Only bright side was DJ going from the pole to last in a few laps. Bring back for me the Cale Yarborough days when racing was racing-even throw in a last lap fight on the back stretch with the Allison brothers for good measure. Bringing up the Allsion name-sure miss Davey. Also miss #3, love him or hate him he was fun to watch. Favorite line from #3 when causing a wreck-"It was just one of them there deals".. Starting to rant now. :soapbox:
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No, can't say that I have. I tried to buy some from the Local Airport years ago, but they wouldn't sell it to me. Back then, the rumor on the street was it was 128 Octane, and was murder on the valve-train. The local Distributor here for Torco, used to have 112 Octane available, but last year only offered 110 Octane. Why, I don't know. It's only available here, during the Dirt Track season. Later--HUBBARD
128 octane. Damn. I bought it from the airport in Portland Maine through a buddy that worked there. Never thought about it being restricted. Stuff sure did make my hotrod 96" Evo go fast, but the pipes turned every color of the rainbow and the heads got so hot I swear they were glowing. I started using about a gallon of it to every 4 of 94 octane unleaded. Still made that FXR hustle. That motor's still runnin by the way. Wound up out here a few years back in another bike I took in trade for a custom I built. Now that's a good version of what goes around comes around.
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No doubt that TRD will be a force to be reckoned with sooner than later. Until reading thru these last posts, I forgot that the individual teams built the motors and not the manufacturer's of the motor. MWR and the other Toyota teams are under tremendous pressure to perform.
When Toyota and Honda were in CART (now Champcar with Ford Cosworth) the engine makers did all the development and leased the engines to the teams. They put the pressure on themselves and spent the money until they were on top.
Hubbard is into racing and has put a lot of light on the subject with his posts in this thread. He is correct in that Nascar has too much power. I'm not a fan of this politically correct racing any more. Too much BS and not enough racing. Get rid of restrictor plates-have them drag anchors if they need to slow them down.
Going from 2nd or 3rd to 17th or worse because you get out of line and try to make a pass is no fun to watch. Isn't fun for the drivers either. The Shootout last Saturday night was painful to watch-plain boring. Only bright side was DJ going from the pole to last in a few laps. Bring back for me the Cale Yarborough days when racing was racing-even throw in a last lap fight on the back stretch with the Allison brothers for good measure. Bringing up the Allsion name-sure miss Davey. Also miss #3, love him or hate him he was fun to watch. Favorite line from #3 when causing a wreck-"It was just one of them there deals".. Starting to rant now. :soapbox:
Yeah, what he said! You can thank Ol' #3 for Restrictor Plates. They cried and cried the Fords had an advantage on the Bow-Ties. Hell, were it not for Restrictor Plates, Awesome Bill would have Airborne before the end of that Season. Put it where it's due though, Dale Sr., Raced Hard from his first race, until his last. The Wealth he had accumulated was of no concern to him on Race Day. Later--HUBBARD
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Anyone care to elaborate on this.
I read that Dale Earnhardt Sr. started DEI for Dale Jr and his other kids.Trouble is he forgot to get his will in line with his wishes and his Trophy wife ended up with the whole shebang. Now she's damn close to chasin Jr. off which leaves DEI as what ? If Dale Jr. stays it'll be so his sister and brother don't end up with nothin.
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I predict Dale Jr., will end up at RCR, with a Black #8 Budweiser Car. He'll bring his Siblings with him. Teresa doesn't need anyone to watch out for her. She's definitely not worried about where her next meal is coming from. JMO.
Later--HUBBARD
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I predict Dale Jr., will end up at RCR, with a Black #8 Budweiser Car. He'll bring his Siblings with him. Teresa doesn't need anyone to watch out for her. She's definitely not worried about where her next meal is coming from. JMO.
Later--HUBBARD
If he's going to paint it to match the old #3 why not take the number too. As well as both Jr and Sr. were or are like Dale Jr. has never had the bad-ass image that his father did. Putting the guy in a black car and a black hat would shake things up a bit. I'd pay to watch it and see what happens.
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The piece on the official NASCAR website about Jr sure doesn't dous the flames of him leavin DEI. He sounded pretty pi$$ed about the whole day. I'd like to see him go somewhere and be his own man. The whole Sr. thing is just a boat anchor around his neck at DEI. Just my $0.02
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If he's going to paint it to match the old #3 why not take the number too. As well as both Jr and Sr. were or are like Dale Jr. has never had the bad-ass image that his father did. Putting the guy in a black car and a black hat would shake things up a bit. I'd pay to watch it and see what happens.
NASCAR or RCR, does not request my presence at their Board Meetings, but Rumor has it the # "3" is forever in the archives of RCR, never to be associated with another Driver, or Team. That may, or may not be true. :nixweiss: Later--HUBBARD
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No doubt that TRD will be a force to be reckoned with sooner than later. Until reading thru these last posts, I forgot that the individual teams built the motors and not the manufacturer's of the motor. MWR and the other Toyota teams are under tremendous pressure to perform.
When Toyota and Honda were in CART (now Champcar with Ford Cosworth) the engine makers did all the development and leased the engines to the teams. They put the pressure on themselves and spent the money until they were on top.
Hubbard is into racing and has put a lot of light on the subject with his posts in this thread. He is correct in that Nascar has too much power. I'm not a fan of this politically correct racing any more. Too much BS and not enough racing. Get rid of restrictor plates-have them drag anchors if they need to slow them down.
Going from 2nd or 3rd to 17th or worse because you get out of line and try to make a pass is no fun to watch. Isn't fun for the drivers either. The Shootout last Saturday night was painful to watch-plain boring. Only bright side was DJ going from the pole to last in a few laps. Bring back for me the Cale Yarborough days when racing was racing-even throw in a last lap fight on the back stretch with the Allison brothers for good measure. Bringing up the Allsion name-sure miss Davey. Also miss #3, love him or hate him he was fun to watch. Favorite line from #3 when causing a wreck-"It was just one of them there deals".. Starting to rant now. :soapbox:
I agree. I think it will be later, like in after MWR. Toyota would have been light-years ahead, had they chosen someone like Robert Yates, as opposed to Mikey. JMO. Later--HUBBARD
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Did ya'll see the look on Jack Rousch's face, when MM said he finally had a Car that would win the Daytona 500? Priceless. I wonder how many Championships MM would have under his belt, had he been wheelin' a Chevrolet all this time? :huepfenlol2: Later--HUBBARD
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Hub, I think you are right in the short term, but they can run roughshod on Mikey, where a Yates or other big named owner would not allow it.
Toyota doesn't make mistakes for the most part and if they do they get it fixed quick.
I look for them to be on a serious win streak in two years. With the new cars and rules they don't have the disadvantage they would have if they had to catch up on everyone, in this case everyone is on the same learning curve to a point.
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Did ya'll see the look on Jack Rousch's face, when MM said he finally had a Car that would win the Daytona 500? Priceless. I wonder how many Championships MM would have under his belt, had he been wheelin' a Chevrolet all this time? :huepfenlol2: Later--HUBBARD
Let's see how MM does after a few more races, Derek Cope had a car under him to win it (have it handed to him) once as well.
MM is a good example of just how hard it is to win Daytona. I hope he gets another chance too.
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Let's see how MM does after a few more races, Derek Cope had a car under him to win it (have it handed to him) once as well.
MM is a good example of just how hard it is to win Daytona. I hope he gets another chance too.
Derek who? I had to say that. :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: Later--HUBBARD
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Hub, I think you are right in the short term, but they can run roughshod on Mikey, where a Yates or other big named owner would not allow it.
Toyota doesn't make mistakes for the most part and if they do they get it fixed quick.
I look for them to be on a serious win streak in two years. With the new cars and rules they don't have the disadvantage they would have if they had to catch up on everyone, in this case everyone is on the same learning curve to a point.
It may be sooner than that, but I agree, Toyota will be in the Front. With, or without Mikey. ;) Later--HUBBARD
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Derek who? I had to say that. :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: Later--HUBBARD
Yep, that's the one time wonder phenomenon, that and his short stint as a hair transplant spokesperson :huepfenjump3:
I guess its Derrike (parents couldn't spell)
Career Totals (1975 - present)
Starts Championships Wins Top5 Top10 Avg. Start Avg. Finish Winnings
99 0 1 2 6 31.4 28.2 1,456,496
Now that is plain sad. I guess if you are going to win one it may as be the biggest race of the year.
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Derek who? I had to say that. :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: Later--HUBBARD
That's a big DITTO from me Hub
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Let's see how MM does after a few more races, Derek Cope had a car under him to win it (have it handed to him) once as well.
MM is a good example of just how hard it is to win Daytona. I hope he gets another chance too.
I HEARD MARK MARTIN DOMINATED THE TRUCK RACE LAST NIGHT AND ON THE LAST LAP WAS SPUN OUT BY RON HORNADAY. IS THIS RIGHT, :nixweiss: AND HOW LONG WILL HIS LUCK BE BAD :nixweiss:
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I HEARD MARK MARTIN DOMINATED THE TRUCK RACE LAST NIGHT AND ON THE LAST LAP WAS SPUN OUT BY RON HORNADAY. IS THIS RIGHT, :nixweiss: AND HOW LONG WILL HIS LUCK BE BAD :nixweiss:
Yep, 5 laps to go and a restart after a caution, MM brought 'em down and was trying to keep it slow, RH got under his tailgate an lifted him up and that was all she wrote. MM spun to the infield as the field went bye.
Only justice was Hornaday didn't get the win. Skinner won.
From www.nascar.com :
Martin, who pitted after spinning into the infield grass, wound up 23rd.
"You know, the thing just kind of lifted up, starting spinning its wheels and I got behind on the steering," he said. "But that's OK. We had a good race. That truck was really fast and I had some fun."
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Yep, 5 laps to go and a restart after a caution, MM brought 'em down and was trying to keep it slow, RH got under his tailgate an lifted him up and that was all she wrote. MM spun to the infield as the field went bye.
Only justice was Hornaday didn't get the win.
I HOPE HE DOES BETTER IN THE CUP RACE SUNDAY, HE REALY NEEDS A BIG WIN :2vrolijk_21:
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Yep, that's the one time wonder phenomenon, that and his short stint as a hair transplant spokesperson :huepfenjump3:
I guess its Derrike (parents couldn't spell)
Career Totals (1975 - present)
Starts Championships Wins Top5 Top10 Avg. Start Avg. Finish Winnings
99 0 1 2 6 31.4 28.2 1,456,496
Now that is plain sad. I guess if you are going to win one it may as be the biggest race of the year.
Grover,
I think we found the guy who can answer my question about average finish of top ten qualifiers for any given race.
You go Rog
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Grover,
I think we found the guy who can answer my question about average finish of top ten qualifiers for any given race.
You go Rog
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I didn't even make an attempt on that one.
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I didn't even make an attempt on that one.
Why not ? Man it'd be good for a dozen posts at least Rog. You'll be breathin down d00d's neck any day ;)
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Anyone taking any side action on number of engine problems tomorrow with the fuel change?
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Anyone taking any side action on number of engine problems tomorrow with the fuel change?
No more Sterno >:(!!!
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No more Sterno >:(!!!
In a sign of getting caught with your hand in the cookie jar doing the wrong thing at precisely the wrong time I read a news blurb early this morning that was decribing this first change/test to unleaded for the Cup cars as "The Waltrip Rule." :huepfenlol2:
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In a sign of getting caught with your hand in the cookie jar doing the wrong thing at precisely the wrong time I read a news blurb early this morning that was decribing this first change/test to unleaded for the Cup cars as "The Waltrip Rule." :huepfenlol2:
No jet fuel anymore I guess. My guess is Toyota engineers thought they had a way to slip one through.
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Oooooooooooooo Sweet Justice sooooooooo sweet watching that front tire go flat Ooooooooo I'm so happy I could flip
AND #24 comes in 2nd, #48 in 3rd. MM (01) in the top 10 again. Sweet home California Yee Hah Only thing better would have been to see the that Black Carhart car smack up against a Safer barrier ( don't want him hurt, just dead last) By the way, the interview with the NASCAR official that made the call in Daytona made me wanna puke What a pompous self righteous a$$
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