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CVO Technical => Milwaukee-Eight => Topic started by: Ta2dResqr on August 15, 2020, 09:43:23 PM
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I have a 2018 Street Glide CVO. I bought it used with 238 miles on it. I am about to hit 1K. I bought the ESP/Warranty because of all the sumping issues I read about. The fine print basically says keep good records with receipts, etc. if you do your own service. I talked to my dealer today and they stated I could not do a proper 1K at home because there was stuff that had to be done with their scan tool ( I think he said DigiTech). Nothing in the owner's manual list looks like it requires a scan tool. I was hoping to by the sevice manual and due it myself. Anyone with experience know if there is anything an average ASE technician can't do for a "complete" 1K?
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That’s B.S. They don’t use any electronic tools on the 1k service. It’s basically a $300 plus fluid change out. They are suppose to check all the fasteners and belt tension. But I bet they don’t do it. I just change my own fluids on the 1K. As long as u keep the receipts it would be ok. The average person can do what the overpriced 1K service costs for a lot less. Do what u think is beat for your situation.
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That is what I thought based on the Owner's Manual. Looks like I need a service manual because of all the torque specs that need checked. I trust myself to actually do the whole list more than them. Also being 2 years old, I want to change brake and clutch fluid, and the spark plugs. I am suree that will drive the dealer cost way up.
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Hydraulics should be good for quite a while yet, I think till 40K now that they've "updated" the fluid, the plugs and wires are good till at least 20K. So just the 3 holes should suffice.
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Manual states 2 years on Clutch and Brake fluid and spark plugs. Cheap to do myself.
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You're at the 2 yr recommend mark I'd change the plugs anyways they're cheap and why not it's a good idea to check them anyways sense some of these bikes made it out of the factory with the plugs not torqued down but the thing about being hooked up to a scanner is a load of crap lol
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the only thing they would need to hook up to the scanner for is to cycle the abs pump. but that isn't normally part of the 1k service. did you mention to them that you wanted to have that done?
oh, also, there was a memo that was circulating a while back that was telling the dealer to hook up to the scan tool for any service. this was to be done as part of 'excellent customer service in ensuring that all necessary upgrades were performed', but really it was to look for any aftermarket tuners so they could automatically void the powertrain portion of your warranty.
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What he said^^^^. There is no valid reason to use a scan tool for what is nothing more than a simple oil change (that really shouldn't be necessary in this day and age, cars dropped those early first services ages ago). Harley has encouraged dealers to hook up every bike that comes in for service, for various reasons including to verify warranty compliance. But it is not and never has been a requirement in the official maintenance lists. Do it yourself if you really want everything checked, otherwise you will be paying through the nose for a simple fluid change and nothing more. Keep receipts and document the date and mileage you performed the service. Make a copy of the checklist and use that for documentation, annotate it with the results of the inspections, tests, and adjustments. Sign and date it, attach all relevant receipts, and store it in your records. I've been doing that with all my vehicles for decades, if nothing else it gives you real data you can refer back to when any questions come up.
One suggestion, check your VIN online for any recalls or special service notices. That is something connecting to the Harley system can do, but you can also do it yourself on their website.
Jery
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you will need a scan tool to correctly bleed the abs brakes, other wise a three hole service with your preferred oil(s) and you will be OK :2vrolijk_21:
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you will need a scan tool to correctly bleed the abs brakes, other wise a three hole service with your preferred oil(s) and you will be OK :2vrolijk_21:
Freddy, do the brakes get bled at 1k?
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Freddy, do the brakes get bled at 1k?
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From what I read in the Owner's Manual, it says clutch and brakes are supposed to be bled every two years.
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every 2 years... and im way over :nixweiss:
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First service...mmm When I picked up my 2012 FLHXSE3 one thing I did notice mechanically other than the lifters was the rear brakes did not function at all, Reported this at first service and was told they need time to bed in, however the front brakes functioned perfectly.
Not having any luck with the service dept I vacuum flushed the brake system wiped the rear brake disk with alcohol wipes and presto, I had rear brakes, abs also worked after the flush and clean.
I thought this was one of the PDI requirements and should have been picked up on the test ride before delivery to the customer!
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every 2 years... and im way over :nixweiss:
I was way over on my 13 CVO King. Finally had it done last October.
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I'm in such a mood today...
So you buy a $40k + motorcycle notorious for needing warranty work, and then buy what I assume was a very expensive ESP but you balk at the $300 or $400 first service.
That first service is expensive, unnecessarily so, but call it initiation into the club. Then do all the rest yourself.
Edit: My 2016 BMW R1200RTneeds a $600 service every 12k miles. And a $300 service every 6000 miles. I do them all myself.Edit Again, my $52,000 2020 F150 twin turbo gets "The Works" at Quick Lane every 5000 miles for $49.95 plus tax.
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I'm in such a mood today...
So you buy a $40k + motorcycle notorious for needing warranty work, and then buy what I assume was a very expensive ESP but you balk at the $300 or $400 first service.
That first service is expensive, unnecessarily so, but call it initiation into the club. Then do all the rest yourself.
Edit: My 2016 needs a $600 service every 12k miles. And a $300 service every 6000 miles. I do them all myself.
I bought a $30k bike... a relatively cheap ESP (under $1k) and I am researching what I was told by a dealer that differs from what I have seen in the manual. No I would not call a lying dealer and throwing money away initiation into the club. Yes $300-400 may cover the oil change. It will not cover the plugs or clutch and brake fluid flush. Also, I don't know what your income is like but mine is not disposable. If I can properly do the job myself and save hundreds of dollars... yes I am going to do it. If throwing hundreds of dollars away is how you are accustomed to being initiated, let me know, I got a few clubs for you. They accept PayPal, Venmo, Cash app, etc.
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As long as you doing the work yourself has no adverse affect on your ESP then just change the 3 holes and go put some miles on it. It's not rocket science.
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I'm in such a mood today...
So you buy a $40k + motorcycle notorious for needing warranty work, and then buy what I assume was a very expensive ESP but you balk at the $300 or $400 first service.
That first service is expensive, unnecessarily so, but call it initiation into the club. Then do all the rest yourself.
Edit: My 2016 BMW R1200RTneeds a $600 service every 12k miles. And a $300 service every 6000 miles. I do them all myself.Edit Again, my $52,000 2020 F150 twin turbo gets "The Works" at Quick Lane every 5000 miles for $49.95 plus tax.
Why over pay for the first and then do the rest yourself? Why not just do the first yourself?
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I'm in such a mood today...
So you buy a $40k + motorcycle notorious for needing warranty work, and then buy what I assume was a very expensive ESP but you balk at the $300 or $400 first service.
That first service is expensive, unnecessarily so, but call it initiation into the club. Then do all the rest yourself.
Edit: My 2016 BMW R1200RTneeds a $600 service every 12k miles. And a $300 service every 6000 miles. I do them all myself.Edit Again, my $52,000 2020 F150 twin turbo gets "The Works" at Quick Lane every 5000 miles for $49.95 plus tax.
Totally disagree, I have never paid for a first or 1K service. I have had 2 that were included with the bike when I bought during a "Sale" weekend. Just absolutely nothing to be gained by paying $300 + for an oil/pri/trans fluid change. I also wouldn't use a quicky oil change facility either for my vehicles but to each his own. I had never paid for an oil change in anything until the last few years, the dealer for one of our cars sends coupons out regularly and does it using Mobil 1 for about what the oil would cost me & the other car has 3 year all maintenance included, they even come pick it up & leave us a similar car to drive. Otherwise I find oil changes a good time to look everything over and check stuff I normally don't.
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I get two years of pre paid maintenance with the bike when I buy the bike. Its a pretty good deal if you ride a lot,
2 years of pre-paid is 1200 dollars last time I bought it.
so far the bike has had:
1000 mile
5000 mile
10,000 mile
15,000 mile
20,000 mile
25,000 mile
30,000 mile
35,000 mile
Bike will have 40K done before its 2 years, don't think I'll make 45K.
So at 40K miles the service cost me 133.33 each service. Bike also gets washed after service. Dealer has a good BBQ joint and full bar. So the service is a good deal for me. The wait is not bad as their is food and drink.
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I’ve done all 3 hole services myself on both my bikes since new and all my vehicles all my life. Only advantages I’ve seen by taking a vehicle of any type to a dealer for maintenance services you may get a questionable warranty situation taken care of, vehicle wash, cleaning etc.
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