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CVO Social => Off Topic => Topic started by: Rhino on October 26, 2007, 07:28:32 PM
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I am now a probationary member, and was not only banned for 24, but my post(s) were deleted. I got DixieChicked. Reason Used: Bashing another member. Well, frankly that term for penalty was used quite loosely, and I totally disagree, but when hotshot members lie or make misrepresentations, I feel a need to make corrections and reiterate that this website should not be relied on for 100% truths. But in any event, I thought the Freedom OF Speech, in any form, was protected by our Constitution. You see, every day in this country, we are slowly getting banned. Unless you are affected by it directly, you probably would not notice. But it is happening in our Washington administration on a daily basis. Happened in the McCarthy era too, what did they call it....commmunist ideologies, thinking outside the government rules was verbotten. Was getting out of control. And now, it is happening again. Protesters are kept blocks away from any administrative events, only supporters are allowed. When did this all happen. I mean, even the KKK can hold an event and say what they want on a city street or wherever, and of course, protesters along the walks are yelling back. But, it is part of this great country, to be able, without prejudice, to present any viewpoint.
My argument might be viewed as different, because CVOHARLEY is privately owned. Oh, does that mean the Constitution is no longer valid? Does Blackwater stay above the law because they are private? They are all choices that people may make. This wonderful world of web has viewpoints from differing perspectives from all over the world. Some people like Fox Noise, others like MSNBC. It is a choice, it is free, but what we should all be fighting for is not what made Russia and China, but what we, America, stand for, to absolutely protect the sacred and hallowed grounds of the institution that is these United States.
We live in dangerous times. People have to be cognizant of the loss of our rights, which happening seems to be precariously and thinly shrouded by keeping the sheeple together and the fear in front, reasons why we need to lose our rights for the sake of our safety. Well, with pure good comes some bad. We cannot let topple our way of life, and the loss of our rights, even now as Habeus Corpus comes under attack. It is our duty to defend at all costs, but it is also our duty to protect.
But what started it all (banned) is truly unfortunate. That those actual expert wrenches and tech's that exist here are overshadowed by those that feel the need to bust in on every post with their own opinions, unfortunately presented in such a way that it may be construed as fact. Yes selling schtik in an eloquent way sometimes works, and it would be a shame to see some newbies swayed into the grips and clutches of those few that seem that the only thing they have to give is more schtik, like a game, to pass themselves off as experts, when the reality is they own 1 or 2 bikes, and have NEVER turned their own wrench, ever. Yes that is a gripe, and it should be made clear that if someone makes claims, they ought to at least admit they have no personal experience, but rely only on what is heresay, what they are repeating from what others have told them, which ultimately, may have been just words from a shop just trying to sell. And if they experience blown up bikes due to incompetence, they ought to mention that too.
Rhino(notlongforthisboardifthingsdontchange)
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I am now a probationary member, and was not only banned for 24, but my post(s) were deleted. I got DixieChicked. Reason Used: Bashing another member. Well, frankly that term for penalty was used quite loosely, and I totally disagree, but when hotshot members lie or make misrepresentations, I feel a need to make corrections and reiterate that this website should not be relied on for 100% truths. But in any event, I thought the Freedom OF Speech, in any form, was protected by our Constitution. You see, every day in this country, we are slowly getting banned. Unless you are affected by it directly, you probably would not notice. But it is happening in our Washington administration on a daily basis. Happened in the McCarthy era too, what did they call it....commmunist ideologies, thinking outside the government rules was verbotten. Was getting out of control. And now, it is happening again. Protesters are kept blocks away from any administrative events, only supporters are allowed. When did this all happen. I mean, even the KKK can hold an event and say what they want on a city street or wherever, and of course, protesters along the walks are yelling back. But, it is part of this great country, to be able, without prejudice, to present any viewpoint.
My argument might be viewed as different, because CVOHARLEY is privately owned. Oh, does that mean the Constitution is no longer valid? Does Blackwater stay above the law because they are private? They are all choices that people may make. This wonderful world of web has viewpoints from differing perspectives from all over the world. Some people like Fox Noise, others like MSNBC. It is a choice, it is free, but what we should all be fighting for is not what made Russia and China, but what we, America, stand for, to absolutely protect the sacred and hallowed grounds of the institution that is these United States.
We live in dangerous times. People have to be cognizant of the loss of our rights, which happening seems to be precariously and thinly shrouded by keeping the sheeple together and the fear in front, reasons why we need to lose our rights for the sake of our safety. Well, with pure good comes some bad. We cannot let topple our way of life, and the loss of our rights, even now as Habeus Corpus comes under attack. It is our duty to defend at all costs, but it is also our duty to protect.
But what started it all (banned) is truly unfortunate. That those actual expert wrenches and tech's that exist here are overshadowed by those that feel the need to bust in on every post with their own opinions, unfortunately presented in such a way that it may be construed as fact. Yes selling schtik in an eloquent way sometimes works, and it would be a shame to see some newbies swayed into the grips and clutches of those few that seem that the only thing they have to give is more schtik, like a game, to pass themselves off as experts, when the reality is they own 1 or 2 bikes, and have NEVER turned their own wrench, ever. Yes that is a gripe, and it should be made clear that if someone makes claims, they ought to at least admit they have no personal experience, but rely only on what is heresay, what they are repeating from what others have told them, which ultimately, may have been just words from a shop just trying to sell. And if they experience blown up bikes due to incompetence, they ought to mention that too.
Rhino(notlongforthisboardifthingsdontchange)
Amongst all your rambling you've made two very good points.....
1. This site is privately owned, and run they way the owner and administration see would be the best way to run it just like you would do your own house.
2. If you don't like the way it is run, you have the freedom to leave as you had the freedom to come. If you don't act according to the rules set up in this forum then you will be removed.
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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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yup you got banned for 24 hrs. get over it or get lost.
you decided to take a personal gripe against another member and make it public over and over to the point other members have complained.
you have no 1st ammendment right on this site or any other forum based web site. you agreed to that when you signed up. ( that agreement you clicked on without reading )
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Freedom of choice... it's a wonderful thing!
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Rhino.......I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you should never rely on any web site for 100% truths. Forums are just peoples opinions.....not necessarily "truths". Gotta sift through it all with a grain of salt.
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damned rhino, i thought i was king of banned. not here at cvo , but other forums. truth hurts, i missed the posts that obviously got you in trouble, but as i have learned---------truth will get you banned.
hope you get over it, i enjoy learning from all the folks here!
besides, if you are gone---------------that leaves me as the only one here who likes thundermax!
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One of the many things I like about this site compared to the others I've visited is the very low incidence of flaming or bullying. Some sites have a handful of people who basically run everyone else off with their obnoxious behavior, and the administration seems to not care. At least for the 2.5 years I've been here, that is not the case with Neal's site. For the most part, people treat other people with respect, even when disagreeing with them. When someone does step over the line, Neal and his moderators do a good job of contacting the offender and taking whatever corrective action is appropriate.
Just because someone has a different opinion doesn't mean they are an automatic a$$hole who you can call out publicly like a gunfighter in the old westerns. The site gives you the option of keeping your disagreement private, by using the PM function. If an issue is such that you can't just ignore it and move on, use PM's to make your case and try to convince the other person to see things your way.
BTW - I haven't run into anyone yet who was always right. I got on a roll back in '75 and almost claimed that distinction, but unfortunately it's all gone downhill from there.
Jerry
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While in Daytona for Octoberfest, I had the opportunity to meet a guy from the MoCo named Brad (?). Jorge, Gary (usa_eagle) and myself were admiring the new CVO Springer and started talking to the 'salesperson' standing there. We told him that we all owned CVO's and that Jorge had just bought a Springer sight unseen. While chatting, I asked him exactly what it was that he did for the MoCo. He proceeded to tell us that he was the guy that was responsible for procuring the parts for the CVO line once the engineers decided what items they wanted on the bike. We then asked him if he was aware of the site. He said that he was aware of FLHRSEI.org but that one could not believe all that was written here. There was a ton of questions that I would have liked to ask but felt that that was not the appropriate setting. However, it does lead me to my point. We do not know every thing here and there is a lot of misinformation as well as constructive chatter. I do not know what post lead to this particular topic. I do think though that we should take information here for what it's worth and try not to banter back and forth. We know that the MoCo watches this site and we should try and have some decorum and politeness about ourselves. We are after all the purchasers of Harley's top of the line product.
AJ
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BTW - I haven't run into anyone yet who was always right. I got on a roll back in '75 and almost claimed that distinction, but unfortunately it's all gone downhill from there.
Jerry
Jerry, I had two months in '83 and another six weeks in April and May of '95. But that's it. Anyone else?
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Oops, just noticed that Rhino MFG'd himself. Guess there's nothing to talk about anymore (like there was that much to begin with).
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Jerry, I had two months in '83 and another six weeks in April and May of '95. But that's it. Anyone else?
I thought I was wrong once,
but I was mistaken. :2vrolijk_21:
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Oops, just noticed that Rhino MFG'd himself. Guess there's nothing to talk about anymore (like there was that much to begin with).
wuts a MFG?
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I have no idea what happened to make this be the last straw, but it must have been pretty ugly and for that I am sorry. Very sorry that a good friend has found that his anger of the moment forced him to delete his profile from this site, cause I for one, have really enjoyed my conversations with him. Very much in fact.
MFG was a member who was even more prolific at posting than Twolanerider or Fired00d. One day he got in a tiff, wanted to take all his toys and go home, so he went about removing all his posts from the site and then deleting his profile from the site. That caused a lot of problems for the board for a long time. I don't think he ever came back. For that, I am also sorry.
When the slurs and slings are being slung, it is no fun for participants or the viewing public. There are a lot of real nice people who never come back to this great forum over some quick response and I wish there was in fact a way for folks to just get up, walk away from the computer for a couple of days and not think about some misguided comment. This is supposed to be a fun place. It usually is. Sometimes it isn't. This is one of those "isn't" times.
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Mrs.WeCVO, thank you for explaining. i hope rhino calms and returns. us guys have a problem sometimes, our cahoonahs get larger than our brain.
having been banned elsewhere, it was because i told myself i wasnt gonna let someone get away with an attack----no matter the cost. looking back, i wish i had just went with diplomacy or silence, end result was it cost me some great cyberfriends!!!!! not being able to contain the caveman within has been a problem for many men, myself included :-[
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I have no idea what happened to make this be the last straw, but it must have been pretty ugly and for that I am sorry. Very sorry that a good friend has found that his anger of the moment forced him to delete his profile from this site, cause I for one, have really enjoyed my conversations with him. Very much in fact.
MFG was a member who was even more prolific at posting than Twolanerider or Fired00d. One day he got in a tiff, wanted to take all his toys and go home, so he went about removing all his posts from the site and then deleting his profile from the site. That caused a lot of problems for the board for a long time. I don't think he ever came back. For that, I am also sorry.
When the slurs and slings are being slung, it is no fun for participants or the viewing public. There are a lot of real nice people who never come back to this great forum over some quick response and I wish there was in fact a way for folks to just get up, walk away from the computer for a couple of days and not think about some misguided comment. This is supposed to be a fun place. It usually is. Sometimes it isn't. This is one of those "isn't" times.
That makes so much sense, I think it needs to be posted again! Mrs.WeCVO, you are mature beyond your years. I guess that means the old wives tale about girls maturing earlier than boys has some truth after all. I never thought past the physical maturity! And yes, I remember what a chauvinist pig is too! Anyhow, thanks for that!
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...... I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken ........
Beat me to it and you are supposed to be resting .......................
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He said that he was aware of FLHRSEI.org ............
AJ,
I have no doubt that the moco has a full time staff that keep an eye on all the forums related to their product
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Having been......and in many ways still am.............the caveman, and having been one who has left CVO Harley only to come back, I'm experiencing some deja vu while reading this thread. I knew before I departed that quitting is a permanent solution to a temporary challenge, but the equipment God gave to me includes a HEAVY dose of STRONG stubborness and an extreme "I ain't takin' chit from anyone" attitude. My behavior was very pronounced prior to my enlistment in the Army, but was quickly quelled by the gentlemen Noncommissioned Officers wearing the "Brown Round" at Basic Training. I managed to keep things in cheque until I completed Warrant Officer Candidate School and the subsequent professionally related training. My first assignment as a fresh out of school WO1 was as a Production Control Officer in an Attack Aviation Battalion. I was determined to succeed despite being the most junior officer in the battalion. "Ain't no friggin' W4 gonna run my shop." And they weren't trying to do that, but I couldn't see through my own bullchit to realize these wise, old, crusty Warrant Officers were really trying to help me succeed. I was quickly slapped back into reality. Needless to say, I finished out my Army career and did very well....better than most (at the risk of sounding like I'm tooting my own horn-----but facts are facts ;D ). Then I retired from the Army. Had a job before I picked up my blue ID card. The only thing I did the day I retired was take off the uniform, don a pair of trousers and a polo shirt and went right back to work doing the same thing I did before I retired. Enter the caveman.....yadayadayada.
My point is, I'll probably never learn, especially when it comes to new situations, but once I get into that situation, puff up my chest, and get my a$$ handed to me for doing so, I rapidly become very productive. Same goes for my experience here. Puffed up my chest, acted like a teenager....young, dumb and full of ***.... (except I'm not really young---just feel that way) and the wise men gave me a dose of reality.
Bottom line, deleting one's account just to suggest "I'll show you mo' fuggers" is perhaps the most immature action a CVO Harley family member can take. It doesn't do anything but confirm in the entire family's eye that one's doing so is good riddance. Unfortunately, some of us.....me.....don't see that until it is too late. Then we're left with regret.........."Now why did I just do that?" "STOOOOOOPID!"
This place is a terrific resource when one takes what they read with a grain of salt. It is best to check one's attitude at the splash screen, enter here, enjoy, contribute something useful, enjoy each other's company, vent, tell one's tales, and have a good time. Destructive posting doesn't do anything but put everyone in a bad state of mind............and quitting because the offender is scolded doesn't do anything but confirm to the family that the person really is immature. It is best to take the scolding and move on...........and if one can't get over the scolding, then perhaps it is best if one gets over oneself. I have...........but I'll do the same thing again in a new situation. Too friggin' hardheaded, I guess.
Have a great Saturday.
Henry
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This is truly a great forum. To debate is to dissent, and there is plenty of that here. We all make our own decisions based on the information we have at hand and our past experiences.
When I was first lurking here, there was a thread that was getting heated and one of the members was posting in all caps (I searched but can't find the link). The responses to that were great -- I remember Hoist requested a couple of times for the guy to stop, and the way he wrote it sounded just right, not attacking but a simple request. It was largely because of that one thread that I felt this would be a good forum for me -- one where members can disagree but not attack each other, only the problem, which is the focus of debate.
Thanks Neal for keeping a good house! Too bad he's left before he realized what a mistake he was making.
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Oh chit, you mean everything I read on here isn't true??? Should I drain the beer out of the crankcase of my SEUC?
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Oh chit, you mean everything I read on here isn't true??? Should I drain the beer out of the crankcase of my SEUC?
:huepfenlol2: ;D :huepfenlol2: ;D Only if your using Corona's!
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Oh chit, you mean everything I read on here isn't true??? Should I drain the beer out of the crankcase of my SEUC?
:oops: You must have used Miller Lite. Bad choice. Not as bad as SYN III, but still, not good. Try filling your crankcase with Bass Ale! Your engine will be very happy!!!! ;D
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I did not read most of the replies and only the first part of Rhino's original post. I would like to add my 02 cents (FWIW). The absolute one biggest reason I joined this site and frequent it is the fact that there is no bashing here. I understand that when you get to the level of being able to afford a CVO bike there is normally a level of maturity it takes to be able to earn enough money to do so (this only reflects finances and in no way means a level of betterness as a person - in other words we are no better than any other rider of any other priced or brand bike). However, you will still have emotions and personality clashes from time to time and when those seem to get out of hand I for one appreciate the moderators for their moderating, even if that means you get banned for a season or for good.
I was a member (still am I guess) of 2 other motorcycle forums that pretty much allow anything and things are always getting out of hand. Therefore, I "take my business elsewhere" so to speak. After a long hard day the last thing I want to do is get into an "argument" with someone I will probably never meet about something that, in the scheme of things, really doesn't matter.
I love this site for not only the vast wealth of usefull information, but the camaraderie as well. The way we rally to one another's aide and yes from time to time, the way we must tell those who are unhappy here to "move on" if you feel the need.
Another thing I do love about this site is the fact that I can make my own mind up about whether or not I choose to accept something posted here as fact or opinion. I can choose to research it if I do not agree with it as truth and that then I can make an informed decesion about it.
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:oops: You must have used Miller Lite. Bad choice. Not as bad as SYN III, but still, not good. Try filling your crankcase with Bass Ale! Your engine will be very happy!!!! ;D
I'm confused here. Knowing how much you like Yuengling's are you saying that only because you'd rather drank them or you don't think they would be good in the crankcase? :confused5: :huepfenlol2:
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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
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wouldnt a nice heavy guiness be better in the crank case?
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:oops: You must have used Miller Lite. Bad choice. Not as bad as SYN III, but still, not good. Try filling your crankcase with Bass Ale! Your engine will be very happy!!!! ;D
No No No
Guinness in all three holes!!!!!!!!!
Guinness contains powerful corrosion preventatives, detergents, dispersants and anti-foam agents to protect engines from the harmful effects of water, acids, debris, deposit-forming materials and air entrained oil.
Guinness maintains a constant high level of performance over time because it resists the damage many beers undergo in high temperature, intense shearing force conditions.
Advanced thermal stability allows Guinness to withstand high heat, resisting viscosity buildup common to lesser-quality beers.
Superior shear stability allows Guinness to provide a dependable pad of protection between parts even after exposure to shearing forces that tear lesser beers apart.
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I'd just like to point out that it's important to note the difference between people describing and commenting on what they've done to their own bikes, as opposed to, recommending what others should to do to their bikes. You must always make your own decisions on what to do with your own bike. But this place allows us to share so much info about many available options that allow us to make our own decisions. No reason for anyone to take another members shared experiences personally, regardless how we feel or whether we agree with, what that member did to their bike. Info is info and the more we have, the better we can make our own informed decisions. But they're our own decisions and we alone must live with the results and consequences. I for one welcome as much info I can get. But there's no reason for any of this to be personal. We should be thankful other members are willing to share! And that my friends is what this place is all about! SHARING!!! :2vrolijk_21:
Hoist! 8)
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Did someone say Guinness! :) Why yes, I'll have another :drink:
Rhino...when your done being mad, put hat in hand, acknowledge you let it get the best of you and move on. I for one would like to see you return after learning one of lifes little lessons. Hell it the big lessons that hurt.
JW
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Level of maturity here to afford a CVO? Forget about it.. :bananarock: and pass another Guinness :drink: lifes too short to be so serious.... :huepfenjump3:
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I'm confused here. Knowing how much you like Yuengling's are you saying that only because you'd rather drank them or you don't think they would be good in the crankcase? :confused5: :huepfenlol2:
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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
I think any of the Yuengling line would do well in any, or all, of the cavities..............but.............if there's Yuengling around, I'm gonna drink it before I share with Thumper. :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:
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I for one remember the MFG days and probably am in a minority saying I miss his involvement, but not at the expense of the drama so I can accept his leaving. Many have left this website or lost interest, some that come to mind: MFG, Glave, Buffy, Cannibus_Mann, Doctor Evil-DJW, SHRADER, kng103, I know some of these people still visit with not posting but I still miss there involvement and I know there are others I have forgot.
Since my involvement here on this website witch has been a while, I have had just a few occasions where someone has bashed or commented in a very ignorant way to a post I've made. I have responded to these in a lenient manor taking what I believe to be the high road. I honestly don't think it's worth my abrasively defending my being right or trying to force my opinion on anyone. I truly enjoy the fact that there is quite a bit of communication here not having much friction or negative comments, I believe the moderators are doing the very best job they can and I appreciate that. I have been on other forums where it's so abrasive its not much fun at all.
I have got so much from this site in the info I've received for my bikes and the friends I've obtained it makes coming here a total joy, I actually miss not being able to come here sometimes. Lets face it you can get help here from fixing your bike to refinishing your hardwood floors. I have had some great rides due to this website. I've made some very good friends I've had help and support in difficult times.
I have to tell you, I sometimes will re frame from arguing with my wife even when I believe I'm right, I have found I honestly can learn more from letting it go. I guess its one of those things that makes life more interesting and certainly more fun in having the ability to listen instead of talking.
Thanks all for all the contributions here, you guys give me so much to think about every day. A couple people here have pointed out some invaluable information here in that no one should get too serious. I remember leaving jobs in the past thinking that they couldn't get the job done without me and I found out that they survived just fine, if I let myself I can learn every day. You guys are the best.....thx.
Roy……..
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you back on your feet roy?
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you back on your feet roy?
Gingerly.
Getting a little better everyday. Thanks naitram.
Roy....
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you'll be out riding before you know it :2vrolijk_21:
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Lets face it, one has to re-learn how to ride before re-learning how to walk. ha ha ha
Roy......
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think of it as training wheels :huepfenlol2:
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I for one remember the MFG days and probably am in a minority saying I miss his involvement, but not at the expense of the drama so I can accept his leaving. Many have left this website or lost interest, some that come to mind: MFG, Glave, Buffy, Cannibus_Mann, Doctor Evil-DJW, SHRADER, kng103, I know some of these people still visit with not posting but I still miss there involvement and I know there are others I have forgot.
Since my involvement here on this website witch has been a while, I have had just a few occasions where someone has bashed or commented in a very ignorant way to a post I've made. I have responded to these in a lenient manor taking what I believe to be the high road. I honestly don't think it's worth my abrasively defending my being right or trying to force my opinion on anyone. I truly enjoy the fact that there is quite a bit of communication here not having much friction or negative comments, I believe the moderators are doing the very best job they can and I appreciate that. I have been on other forums where it's so abrasive its not much fun at all.
I have got so much from this site in the info I've received for my bikes and the friends I've obtained it makes coming here a total joy, I actually miss not being able to come here sometimes. Lets face it you can get help here from fixing your bike to refinishing your hardwood floors. I have had some great rides due to this website. I've made some very good friends I've had help and support in difficult times.
I have to tell you, I sometimes will re frame from arguing with my wife even when I believe I'm right, I have found I honestly can learn more from letting it go. I guess its one of those things that makes life more interesting and certainly more fun in having the ability to listen instead of talking.
Thanks all for all the contributions here, you guys give me so much to think about every day. A couple people here have pointed out some invaluable information here in that no one should get too serious. I remember leaving jobs in the past thinking that they couldn't get the job done without me and I found out that they survived just fine, if I let myself I can learn every day. You guys are the best.....thx.
Roy……..
Bingo.
And we have cat puke too.
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wuts a MFG?
I,ll never forget how pissed off MFG (from wisconsin) was at me. I told him California had better cheese than wisconsin. He posted a page of stats and pitcures of ribbons won by wisconsin cheese makers. This went to PM,s where i told him california had happy cows cause the commercials out her say so! I think he was a little thined skined--------------AK
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I,ll never forget how pissed off MFG (from wisconsin) was at me. I told him California had better cheese than wisconsin. He posted a page of stats and pitcures of ribbons won by wisconsin cheese makers. This went to PM,s where i told him california had happy cows cause the commercials out her say so! I think he was a little thined skined--------------AK
now thats funny. yall got comercials with cows bouncing gayly about? hehehe
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Dude, did you just question my fanhood? ;D
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REO, MFG did bring some interesting facts to the board, that's for sure. However, if you remember, he had an uncanny knack for quoting tech. articles and all kinds of scientific motorcycle mechanics and engineering and then he'd sign his name to the bottom of each of those posts (as though it came directly from him). Of course, we had some members that were naive' enough about Harleys to believe that he did write it all.......until his covers were pulled.
As Andy indicated above, he could get offended real easy by anybody who questioned him or chllenged him. He was certainly an interesting guy however, I don't miss all his drama.
Rednectum......yes, they have commercials out here about how happy the cows are, here in Cali. They're really spoofs and funny as hell. To give you an idea, I'll try to recite one of them for you however, know that I may not describe it near as well as it comes across on the tube.
Two cows standing in a sunny, green pasture.....the younger one tells the older one "hey, check out the babe coming this way". The older one tells the younger one "yea, she's a looker......I'll handle this one". As the cow approaches, the older of the two says in one of those voices "hey baby, you work out?" as the cow walks on by, ignorring the two standing there. The little guy says to the big guy "oh sure......you're so suave and sophisticated".
Then they have another one where a cow is going to leave sunny Calif. and go back to Wisconsin. The cows in Calif. are sun bathing while the cows in Wis. are stuck in a snow storm and can't even move.
Funny commercials.........guess you gotta see them for yourself. :nixweiss:
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I,ll never forget how pissed off MFG (from wisconsin) was at me. I told him California had better cheese than wisconsin. He posted a page of stats and pitcures of ribbons won by wisconsin cheese makers. This went to PM,s where i told him california had happy cows cause the commercials out her say so! I think he was a little thined skined--------------AK
I remember that! :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:I was wondering what was up with all that! Now I know! ;D
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Two cows standing in a sunny, green pasture.....the younger one tells the older one "hey ........."
Funny commercials
Two bulls, one young one and one old one are standing on the hill, the younger says to the older "hey, look at all those cute cows down there, why don't we run down and .......
Ain't no commercial :huepfenjump3:
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Lets face it, one has to re-learn how to ride before re-learning how to walk. ha ha ha
Roy......
Glad to see you home and up and about with any type of improvement and any degree of feeling better. There is no such thing as minor surgery Roy; unless it's surgery done to someone else.
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Level of maturity here to afford a CVO? Forget about it.. :bananarock: and pass another Guinness :drink: lifes too short to be so serious.... :huepfenjump3:
:2vrolijk_21: Enough said.
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No No No
Guinness in all three holes!!!!!!!!!
:o If that doesn't get you banned...
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:o If that doesn't get you banned...
my apologies, Candy A$$, I did not intend to offend you with my remark, I know how sensitive the gender challenged can get when people start talking about holes, so I will just add a disclaimer to my posts from now on, by the way, I would have thought that you would use an empty bottle, you sick puppy ;)
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Jerry, I had two months in '83 and another six weeks in April and May of '95. But that's it. Anyone else?
Been chastised, deleted, damn near banished altogether, placed on triple secret probation and a couple times not so secret probabation , chastised again, deleted again and again and again ( sometimes I try to get deleted) ranted, raved, soapboxed untold times, picked on Howie so much even I'm bored with it and still I'm here. It's like anything in life Rhino - - there's good, there's bad and everything in between. If you're a married man ask youself if you've ever "edited" your speach for the sake of marital harmony ? Bad analogy ? Ok, ever not truly said what you feel to a good friend ? and so forth. While he who histates is truly lost, discretion is the better part of valor is it not ?
Anyway- - - -- - How bout them Red Sox ? ;)
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I love this site for not only the vast wealth of usefull information, but the camaraderie as well. The way we rally to one another's aide and yes from time to time, the way we must tell those who are unhappy here to "move on" if you feel the need.
Another thing I do love about this site is the fact that I can make my own mind up about whether or not I choose to accept something posted here as fact or opinion. I can choose to research it if I do not agree with it as truth and that then I can make an informed decesion about it.
I agree with your last paragraph in many of lifes situations. If one doesn't want to read, watch, etc... then you dont have to read, watch, etc...
use your own discretion.
Could not tell you how many hours I have spent checking on the valitidy of information on this board. After having the opportunity to speak, and meet many of the prolific posters here, you learn who is full of valuable information and who is full of chit.
IMHO if I don't like what someone posts, I just leave it alone. This was not always how it has been for me, as many of you remember, but I found the information given here was more valuable than someones ranting and raving. Have a nice day :2vrolijk_21:
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Yeah, what he said.
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TC and Henry got gas today. Henry said so.
I know, off topic. Just sharing though.
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TC and Henry got gas today. Henry said so.
I know, off topic. Just sharing though.
Don't forget about the Girls...........they got gas too!!! ;D
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Don't forget about the Girls...........they got gas too!!! ;D
I think Suzanne might have broken VOX with a couple of her burps coming back home this afternoon... :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: She'll kill me if she reads this... :nervous: ;) ;D
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I'd just like to point out that it's important to note the difference between people describing and commenting on what they've done to their own bikes, as opposed to, recommending what others should to do to their bikes. You must always make your own decisions on what to do with your own bike. But this place allows us to share so much info about many available options that allow us to make our own decisions. No reason for anyone to take another members shared experiences personally, regardless how we feel or whether we agree with, what that member did to their bike. Info is info and the more we have, the better we can make our own informed decisions. But they're our own decisions and we alone must live with the results and consequences. I for one welcome as much info I can get. But there's no reason for any of this to be personal. We should be thankful other members are willing to share! And that my friends is what this place is all about! SHARING!!! :2vrolijk_21:
Hoist! 8)
OH NO! Not no, but hell no!!! Howie lies!!!!! He's lying right here!!!! He MADE me buy those SPO's and he MADE me put them on my bike and now he won't let me take them off!!!! (big mean man that he is.... damned new yawkers...... )
What? yea.. thanks... pass that over here would ya?...........
So anyway.... what was I sayin? Oh yea....
Hey Neal, thanks for what you do for us. See ya later Rhino.
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I think Suzanne might have broken VOX with a couple of her burps coming back home this afternoon... :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: She'll kill me if she reads this... :nervous: ;) ;D
"COPY"...PM HARLEYDIVA "PASTE"
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"COPY"...PM HARLEYDIVA "PASTE"
:zroflmao: :zroflmao: That's cold, but I like it. You know what they say if you can't f.. mess w/your friends who can you mess with. ;D
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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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"COPY"...PM HARLEYDIVA "PASTE"
Just remember, Ken...paybacks can be hell, buddy... :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :nervous: ;) ;)
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I think Suzanne might have broken VOX with a couple of her burps coming back home this afternoon... :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: She'll kill me if she reads this... :nervous: ;) ;D
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"COPY"...PM HARLEYDIVA "PASTE"
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:zroflmao: :zroflmao: That's cold, but I like it. You know what they say if you can't f.. mess w/your friends who can you mess with. ;D
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
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Just remember, Ken...paybacks can be hell, buddy... :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :nervous: ;) ;)
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Now that's some funny chit, right there!!! Hey Terry............you still alive Buddy? :-\ ;D
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Alive and kicking...Diva will just laugh.
We do try not to burp obnoxiously, or fart like pack mules around each other though... :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:
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Alive and kicking...Diva will just laugh.
We do try not to burp obnoxiously, or fart like pack mules around each other though... :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:
We put forth an effort toward that goal as well, but sometimes..............
Now, the CVOBoxers are a different story. Annie Bea will shake the rafters when she poots. Springer is a different story. He's the silent type. He'll gracefully lift his stub, quietly fumigate the room, lower his stub, and try to play it off like someone else emitted the stench. "What, Who, Me?"
Funny Boxer. :wiseguy:
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I think Suzanne might have broken VOX with a couple of her burps coming back home this afternoon... :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: She'll kill me if she reads this... :nervous: ;) ;D
Don't forget about the Girls...........they got gas too!!! ;D
Good grief guys. I don't even live them and I knew better than to write that chit. I'll meet them (or meet them again) someday all too soon I have no doubt! Geez, since when is the single guy supposed to be the smart one on stuff like this :huepfenlol2: ?
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Talk about a :jack:
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Talk about a :jack:
Amazing how that happened, isn't it ::) ?
It's fitting though. The thread started with flatulence and that's where it's ending up :drink: .
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Good grief guys. I don't even live them and I knew better than to write that chit. I'll meet them (or meet them again) someday all too soon I have no doubt! Geez, since when is the single guy supposed to be the smart one on stuff like this :huepfenlol2: ?
I've been married so long I don't remember too well, but it seems when I was single, I had to be smart on stuff like this. As our marriage matured, I could get away with more. Soon Renea realized that I really am just a slob. ;D
You really believe that, don't you? :P Good thing there's guest room in our house, or I'd have slept in the garage with the Harley's............which wouldn't have been all bad!!!!!
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Amazing how that happened, isn't it ::) ?
It's fitting though. The thread started with flatulence and that's where it's ending up :drink: .
Far be it for me to take a liberal look at anything........... ??? ??? ??? :o :o :o ........... but the thread hasn't been "thread jacked." After all, the subject does suggest free speech. OK, yeah, I know............ :D ................but hey, it's fun.
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I agree with your last paragraph in many of lifes situations. If one doesn't want to read, watch, etc... then you dont have to read, watch, etc...
use your own discretion.
Great point! There are a number of members on this site I would rather not have any dealings with, so when I see their avatar coming up, I just keep on scrolling. And it works for the most part. I even tried blocking some in the profile section so I would never have to see them, but that is not wahat the "Ignorelist" under Personal Message Options really does (works in my head though!) Keeps the peace, eh! :2vrolijk_21:
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Great point! There are a number of members on this site I would rather not have any dealings with, ! :2vrolijk_21:
That doesn't seem right. ???
One or two I can see your point, but your verbiage suggests a much larger number. :(
Of course if I'm on your chitlist you won't see this :D
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That doesn't seem right. ???
One or two I can see your point, but your verbiage suggests a much larger number. :(
Of course if I'm on your chitlist you won't see this :D
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Now that is some funny chit right there!!! :ROFLOL:
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The last day I was on the forum I saw the original post in this thread and the two quick responses by Gary and then Neal. I immediately gained a huge amount of trust and confidence in this site knowing that personal attacks would not be tolerated. Then I logged on today and saw 5 pages of replies all in support. I think all of you fine folks are awesome and I love the way everyone respects each other. I get WAY more from this site than I give. I look forward to my time here. Thanks Neal!
PS, you know you've been married a long time when you can do a "Dutch Oven" (after 19 years, I still don't have the nerve)
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dutch+oven
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The last day I was on the forum I saw the original post in this thread and the two quick responses by Gary and then Neal. I immediately gained a huge amount of trust and confidence in this site knowing that personal attacks would not be tolerated. Then I logged on today and saw 5 pages of replies all in support. I think all of you fine folks are awesome and I love the way everyone respects each other. I get WAY more from this site than I give. I look forward to my time here. Thanks Neal!
PS, you know you've been married a long time when you can do a "Dutch Oven" (after 19 years, I still don't have the nerve)
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dutch+oven
You got that right, Bro!!!!! ;D Renea has grown wise to that trick.
When I saw this, I thought it was going to be something related to "Dirty Sanchez."
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I need to perform a cranial rectal extraction on myself, because I missed all of this.
The forum, is like the world shrunk down. A lot of people we interact with, so we are bound to get all kinds of personalities here. I can't comment on what happened, because I missed it all, but I for one hope Rhino stays. His level of knowledge and experience is what we need here. Whenever I have a question about T-Max, or anything else bike related, he is one of the first people I consider going to for help and information. Whatever happens, stay or go, we will get through this.
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I think Suzanne might have broken VOX with a couple of her burps coming back home this afternoon... :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: She'll kill me if she reads this... :nervous: ;) ;D
Busted! :o
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Busted! :o
Terry, I swear buddy, I did not quote you and PM her.
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Terry, I swear buddy, I did not quote you and PM her.
I just went on a fessed up, Ken...it's better that way sometimes. Suzanne just got a big laugh out of it....she's a good woman.