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CVO Technical => Twin Cam => Topic started by: steve282 on May 31, 2008, 11:53:46 AM

Title: HELP! Engine Ping
Post by: steve282 on May 31, 2008, 11:53:46 AM
Hello, I'm just new to the site. I was wondering if someone could help me out? I ride a 2005 FLHTCSE2 with V&H pipes,
Harley High Flow and a Power Commander. I've recently had the bike dyno tuned, and I'm experiencing engine ping
when the bike is hot, and under load. The bike also seems to be idling lower than the 1000 1050 range (950 to 1000)

I am now considering a Harley Race Tuner. Is this the way to go for these bikes?

Thanks,
Steve
Title: Re: HELP! Engine Ping
Post by: Fired00d on May 31, 2008, 12:02:26 PM
Steve,
First off welcome to the site glad to have you join us. :2vrolijk_21: In regards to what tuning device to use first fine a tuner that you are confident in, and ask what he is most competent tuning with. When he tells you that, then that is the device you want to use.

When you get a chance you should go to this board - New Member Introduction (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php/board,30.0.html) and start a thread to introduce yourself.

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: HELP! Engine Ping
Post by: RedDevil on May 31, 2008, 12:14:15 PM
Hello, I'm just new to the site. I was wondering if someone could help me out? I ride a 2005 FLHTCSE2 with V&H pipes,
Harley High Flow and a Power Commander. I've recently had the bike dyno tuned, and I'm experiencing engine ping
when the bike is hot, and under load. The bike also seems to be idling lower than the 1000 1050 range (950 to 1000)

I am now considering a Harley Race Tuner. Is this the way to go for these bikes?

Thanks,
Steve

Steve,
Welcome to the site.  My SEUC was tuned using the SERT and it idles around 950 and I've not had any problems with that.  I had some pinging when going up in the mountains in Tennessee.  I think it was a bad tank of gas, cuz on the next fillup, we went up the same road again, under similar temps and it didn't ping and hasn't pinged since.  Try something like Shell V-Power, or BP Ultimate and see if that helps.  Both of those work great in my SEUC.  Sunoco super premium works very well too.

   :devil:
Title: Re: HELP! Engine Ping
Post by: BIGDOG on May 31, 2008, 12:23:03 PM
Steve,
Welcome to the site.  My SEUC was tuned using the SERT and it idles around 950 and I've not had any problems with that.  I had some pinging when going up in the mountains in Tennessee.  I think it was a bad tank of gas, cuz on the next fillup, we went up the same road again, under similar temps and it didn't ping and hasn't pinged since.  Try something like Shell V-Power, or BP Ultimate and see if that helps.  Both of those work great in my SEUC.  Sunoco super premium works very well too.

   :devil:
My vote would be bad gas also, if your good with the tuner that's probably the issue.
Title: Re: HELP! Engine Ping
Post by: steve282 on May 31, 2008, 12:30:57 PM
Steve,
First off welcome to the site glad to have you join us. :2vrolijk_21: In regards to what tuning device to use first fine a tuner that you are confident in, and ask what he is most competent tuning with. When he tells you that, then that is the device you want to use.

When you get a chance you should go to this board - New Member Introduction (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php/board,30.0.html) and start a thread to introduce yourself.

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:

Hey, thanks for the reply. I think your the gentlemen I parked my bike next to while visiting from Canada at Patriot HD last weekend, that handed me a card for this site. I had my bike tuned by a power commander authorized dealer. l
Maybe it was some bad gas? I guess I'll just have to monitor it.
Title: Re: HELP! Engine Ping
Post by: Fired00d on May 31, 2008, 12:33:09 PM
Hey, thanks for the reply. I think your the gentlemen I parked my bike next to while visiting from Canada at Patriot HD last weekend, that handed me a card for this site. I had my bike tuned by a power commander authorized dealer. l
Maybe it was some bad gas? I guess I'll just have to monitor it.
Kewl. I remember you. :2vrolijk_21: Glad you made it to the site.

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: HELP! Engine Ping
Post by: Twolanerider on May 31, 2008, 12:51:39 PM
Kewl. I remember you. :2vrolijk_21: Glad you made it to the site.

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:


Gentleman?  Really?   You pay this guy Gary :nixweiss: ?   :huepfenlol2:
Title: Re: HELP! Engine Ping
Post by: Fired00d on May 31, 2008, 01:18:11 PM

Gentleman?  Really?   You pay this guy Gary :nixweiss: ?   :huepfenlol2:
Shhhh, Chithead. Don't let everybody know. :huepfenlol2:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: HELP! Engine Ping
Post by: harleydawg57 on June 01, 2008, 09:11:37 AM
I am a little confused on how many people are named "Chithead " on this sight? ;D
Title: Re: HELP! Engine Ping
Post by: Ghost Rider on June 02, 2008, 09:27:27 AM
I am a little confused on how many people are named "Chithead " on this sight? ;D

Only Chip is offically named "Chithead," the rest of us simply are chitheads.   :huepfenlol2:
Title: Re: HELP! Engine Ping
Post by: iski on June 02, 2008, 12:48:10 PM
CVO stands for Chithead Vehicle owners.
Title: Re: HELP! Engine Ping
Post by: DESERTBEAR54 on June 02, 2008, 01:26:22 PM
I was at Patriot Harley last Saturday. I smoked a Cigar and walked around and thought about how I can't wait to get home to Arizona and jump on the Scoot!!!! 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: HELP! Engine Ping
Post by: iski on June 02, 2008, 11:11:17 PM
Very rare that anyone complains about engine pong......

But ping, well that's another story.
Title: Re: HELP! Engine Ping
Post by: RedDevil on June 03, 2008, 12:21:03 PM
Very rare that anyone complains about engine pong......

But ping, well that's another story.

Wasn't that a video game?  :nixweiss:

    :devil:
Title: Re: HELP! Engine Ping
Post by: FNGw/08SERK on June 03, 2008, 12:27:45 PM
Wasn't that a video game?  :nixweiss:

    :devil:
My thoughts were it was a smoking utensil used extensively in the 60s and 70s and 80s 90s.......
Title: Re: HELP! Engine Ping
Post by: DESERTBEAR54 on June 03, 2008, 12:38:23 PM
PONG BONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM????[/size
Title: Re: HELP! Engine Ping
Post by: RedDevil on June 03, 2008, 01:32:15 PM
My thoughts were it was a smoking utensil used extensively in the 60s and 70s and 80s 90s.......

Hmmmm, you must have come from a different part of the country than I did...never used a "pong" before to smoke anything.... :P ::) ???

    :devil:
Title: Re: HELP! Engine Ping
Post by: Fired00d on June 03, 2008, 02:03:47 PM
My thoughts were it was a smoking utensil used extensively in the 60s and 70s and 80s 90s.......
Hmmmm, I think I remember those, or do I. :rolleyes4: Dang short term memory loss sucks. :D

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: HELP! Engine Ping
Post by: iski on June 03, 2008, 09:14:12 PM
(http://www.tomheroes.com/images4/GAMEAD%20Pong%20and%20Super%20Pong.gif)

Smoking Pong would have been VERY expensive, in todays dollars.....
Title: Re: HELP! Engine Ping
Post by: VANAMAL on June 04, 2008, 08:02:22 PM
steve- my bike has always had some ping to it. i think it was related to the hemi design of the head. my other bikes with the bathtub design never had a problem. dont let the rpms get below 5000 and youll be fine :bananarock:
Title: Re: HELP! Engine Ping
Post by: grc on June 04, 2008, 08:10:36 PM
steve- my bike has always had some ping to it. i think it was related to the hemi design of the head. my other bikes with the bathtub design never had a problem. dont let the rpms get below 5000  and youll be fine :bananarock:

 :vrolijk27:  

So I guess a stealth cruise through the neighborhood at 2 am is pretty much out of the question?

Jerry
Title: Re: HELP! Engine Ping
Post by: hossdog on June 04, 2008, 10:48:43 PM
When mine pings I down shift and depending on road conditions GUN it and hang on. This usually makes the ping go away.   :bananarock: