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CVO Technical => Wheels/Tires/Suspension/Brakes => Topic started by: 04se103 on March 21, 2009, 12:16:35 AM
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Well I finally got the time to carry my 04 Seeg to Traxxion this week had the AK20s and the Bitubos installed. Have not had time to really ride to see what the ride will be like. But did notice a big difference yesterday while going over a bridge were the joint between the two surfaces meet the bike would bottom out hard not any more with Traxxion.
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stayed sunday nite in north ga after the ribfest so we could make our appointment for monday @ traxxion. it only took two days to get them done. we were evacuated on monday because of a 6" gas pipe leak, a little more than a leak. but thats another story.:nervous:
anyhow the folks were great, good business practice and what a different ride. :2vrolijk_21: ;D :2vrolijk_21:
i had the ak-20 upgrade along with the 12" bitubos. i'm spoiled now. the best 23 hundred upgrade i've done. :drink:
TN
did i say how much i like them. :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:
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stayed sunday nite in north ga after the ribfest so we could make our appointment for monday @ traxxion. it only took two days to get them done. we were evacuated on monday because of a 6" gas pipe leak, a little more than a leak. but thats another story.:nervous:
anyhow the folks were great, good business practice and what a different ride. :2vrolijk_21: ;D :2vrolijk_21:
i had the ak-20 upgrade along with the 12" bitubos. i'm spoiled now. the best 23 hundred upgrade i've done. :drink:
TN
did i say how much i like them. :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:
Didn't I tell you so?
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TN world of difference in the ride on these bike's when you change to the Traxxion AK20's and the Bitubos best money I have spent :2vrolijk_21: Can't wait till I can get my 09 Serg done ;D
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Max ought to send me another t-shirt for finding his place way back when. I cost lots of you bastards lots of of $$$ :huepfenlol2: .
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I just took my first long ride with the Bitubos -- pulled over 3 times dialing them in. Each time I get a little closer & it's starting to feel real nice.
One question I have, maybe someone can help me. The compression dial, on the external cylinder, there's an H and an S with arrows pointing away from themselves. If I want a softer compression, do I turn it away from the S (as the arrow indicates) or toward the S? It's weird, they should have it like the rebound markings. Do I turn it like the rebound markings, or opposite as the arrow might be interpreted? :confused5:
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Max ought to send me another t-shirt for finding his place way back when. I cost lots of you bastards lots of of $$$ :huepfenlol2: .
Kiss my...
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I just took my first long ride with the Bitubos -- pulled over 3 times dialing them in. Each time I get a little closer & it's starting to feel real nice.
One question I have, maybe someone can help me. The compression dial, on the external cylinder, there's an H and an S with arrows pointing away from themselves. If I want a softer compression, do I turn it away from the S (as the arrow indicates) or toward the S? It's weird, they should have it like the rebound markings. Do I turn it like the rebound markings, or opposite as the arrow might be interpreted? :confused5:
Turn it towards the "S" for softer.
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Kiss my...
Water Buffalo :confused5: ? :huepfenlol2:
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we got a free nite at the hampton inn, a beautiful black tee, some stickers on my chrome forks, and last but not least a bike that handles better than i thought possible.
try running freon in the tires. is my next move. :-*
i have too much time on my hands right now cause weather is not cooperating with us for riding :(
guess i'll try a paddle fer a day er two
TN
TN
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Turn it towards the "S" for softer.
OK, and because I'm so twisted with this for some straaaaange reason (weird!), just to absolutely positively double darn sure confirm, if there were a hash mark on the cylinder I would want to move the S towards the hash mark. Right?
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OK, and because I'm so twisted with this for some straaaaange reason (weird!), just to absolutely positively double darn sure confirm, if there were a hash mark on the cylinder I would want to move the S towards the hash mark. Right?
Move it towards the hash mark. Better yet, COUNT THE # OF CLICKS and turn it towards "H". As you turn it, it should become harder. Now, turn it back towards "S" the same # of clicks or to the point you want.
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Move it towards the hash mark. Better yet, COUNT THE # OF CLICKS and turn it towards "H". As you turn it, it should become harder. Now, turn it back towards "S" the same # of clicks or to the point you want.
Yep, that's it, now I got it. Thank you very much!
Good news, bad news.
Good news, the more I dial it in, the sweeter the REAR ride. You can guess the bad news ($$A$K$2$0$$) ;)
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I have the same setup (installed just prior to moving for 3 years to Germany) and to be honest it is like a brand new bike. The bike used to make me a bit anxious if I was going down hill and had to take a quick turn as it felt "unstable", although it never actually did anything unexpected.
I don't think my full bagger will out-corner a sports bike with this setup, but it feels much more solid on the twisties and switchbacks over here and I keep up with most of them when I chose to.
I have not messed with the dial on the Bitubo, or the settings for the Traxxion. Seems to be a little harsh for 1 up, and about perfect for 2 up riding. Even though I had them set my bike to be 1" lower than stock i hardly ever scrape the floorboards with this setting.
I wonder how much of the Harley wobble blamed on lack of frame or swingarm stiffness is actually suspension related? For the price of the bikes this setup should be standard, or at least a suspension upgrade option.
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got my first chance to really try the traxxion suspension out this am. :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:
i have no paperwork on these yet, anyone care to share? i have played with the rear settings a bit. seems like they set it up in the middle of the road. went with stock height. :orange: :orange: :orange:
TN
did i say how sweet it is?? :orange:
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got my first chance to really try the traxxion suspension out this am. :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:
i have no paperwork on these yet, anyone care to share? i have played with the rear settings a bit. seems like they set it up in the middle of the road. went with stock height. :orange: :orange: :orange:
TN
did i say how sweet it is?? :orange:
Did you get the paperwork yet? I have a copy down in the garage if you still need it.
megavolt17, I was the same way. The traxxion made a world of difference. I recently rode a Road Gilde without it and am so glad I spent the $$$.
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AJ
i just got it yesterday, for the bitubos anyhow. i tried understanding the italian version after reading the english version. :nixweiss: i might absorb more after reading again and making my own notes.
have none for the front ak-20, i'm assuming clockwise decreases oil flow and counterclockwise allows more oil flow.
prolly by quarter turns. the stars are a bit hidden on the tr.
a much improved setup though. :orange:...i stayed with the lowered suspension too.
TN
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prolly by quarter turns. the stars are a bit hidden on the tr.
If mine is a guide a little bit is a noticed difference here. Definitely no more than a 1/4 turn at a time.
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AJ
i just got it yesterday, for the bitubos anyhow. i tried understanding the italian version after reading the english version. :nixweiss: i might absorb more after reading again and making my own notes.
have none for the front ak-20, i'm assuming clockwise decreases oil flow and counterclockwise allows more oil flow.
prolly by quarter turns. the stars are a bit hidden on the tr.
a much improved setup though. :orange:...i stayed with the lowered suspension too.
TN
I don't believe I got anything from Traxxion for the forks. As a matter of fact the only thing they gave me was a t shirt and a bill.
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I don't believe I got anything from Traxxion for the forks. As a matter of fact the only thing they gave me was a t shirt and a bill.
You got a T shirt? All I got was a bill!! :nixweiss: :huepfenlol2:
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I'm sure I'm a day late and a dollar short here but .... anybody notice that it appears using the wrench that comes in the tool kit to adjust the axle nut is no longer able to get on the nut after the Bitubos are installed. Or am I missin something. Looks like I need to buy a 36mm wrench :nixweiss:
Howie
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I'm sure I'm a day late and a dollar short here but .... anybody notice that it appears using the wrench that comes in the tool kit to adjust the axle nut is no longer able to get on the nut after the Bitubos are installed. Or am I missin something. Looks like I need to buy a 36mm wrench :nixweiss:
Howie
Howie-baby, you're doing it the hard way man :huepfenlol2: .
Once you get some weight off the ass end with the jack just unhook the lower shock bolts. Then with the jack you can move the axle and rear wheel all over the place. Up and down to clear the exhaust. Easy to get a normal socket on with the torque wrench. And all kinds of flexibility just to move things around to make it all fall in place going back together.
Sometimes doing a little less isn't easier after all. This is one of them. Just unhook the shocks and get those long skinny bastards out of the way :bananarock: .
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Howie-baby, you're doing it the hard way man :huepfenlol2: .
Once you get some weight off the ass end with the jack just unhook the lower shock bolts. Then with the jack you can move the axle and rear wheel all over the place. Up and down to clear the exhaust. Easy to get a normal socket on with the torque wrench. And all kinds of flexibility just to move things around to make it all fall in place going back together.
Sometimes doing a little less isn't easier after all. This is one of them. Just unhook the shocks and get those long skinny bastards out of the way :bananarock: .
You know I don't know any other way Don :oops: :drink:
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i bought a 36mm combo wrench at napa for $36....works for me. hate to see what a snapon would cost.
and the gas caps there for hd's are only $5. :huepfenjump3:
TN
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If someone is considering some relatively inexpensive options for some robust 36mm tools hit eBay or elsewhere and check out the various gadgets for old VW/dune buggy axles. Also it's a size with impact type sockets out there cheaply available that fit some small car oil filters.
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i bought a 36mm combo wrench at napa for $36....works for me. hate to see what a snapon would cost.
and the gas caps there for hd's are only $5. :huepfenjump3:
TN
I told him they were FREE at my house!
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I told him they were FREE at my house!
..... but you were headin' the other way :nixweiss: :huepfenlol2:
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I have had the Bitubos for a while now on my '05 SEEG and it is now time to pull the trigger on the AK-20's. Since the SEEG is lowered 1" front and rear I was considering raising the front end back up 1" to the same specs as the Streetglide. I have a buddy with an '06 Streetglide and it seems to handle so much better than my SEEG. I have always had major problems with the front end diving and scraping the floorboards in the twisties. Has anyone with a SEEG tried this set up? Has anyone noticed similar problems with the stock set up and find that the AK-20's eliminate these issues? Any opinions or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.