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Custom Vehicle Discussions => CVO™ Road Glide Ultra® => Topic started by: gpopvet on November 02, 2011, 06:25:14 AM
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I have been back and forth with my Local Dealer, I really like the appearance of a diamond cut motor any pros or cons I should know before I commit? Should I do anything else while motor is apart? They assured me if they do the work whatever it might be I would have no problem with factory or extended warranty. Thanks
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I have been back and forth with my Local Dealer, I really like the appearance of a diamond cut motor any pros or cons I should know before I commit? Should I do anything else while motor is apart? They assured me if they do the work whatever it might be I would have no problem with factory or extended warranty. Thanks
Get the warranty declaration in writing. Personnel change and memories (intentionally or not) can fade. The dealer is not the final arbiter of the factory warranty or the extended service agreement. The dealer is only the agent for either Mother Harley or the contracting company. Eventually it's up to either of them, and not the dealer, if a significant warranty claim is honored or not.
Admittedly under agency law either might be bound by the promises of their dealer agent. But you'd hate to have to fight that out and you'd stand no chance unless you could prove the dealer originally made the statement. Unless the dealer's GM is your mom an engine is a potentially large future failure to just trust them on.
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Nice grader for your knuckles while wrenching near the cylinders! :huepfenlol2:
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On the fence about this, the cut looks nice but you're trimming a fin that is designed for cooling and these motors run hot already, it's only what I've heard about diamond cutting. Maybe the little bit that is sacrificed may not factor into it. :nixweiss:
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Actually, you're increasing the surface area on the fins, so in theory, it should help with the cooling. That's what they claim, anyhow...
Plus, it looks great, and that's really what it's about.
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IMHO Do you want a show bike/garage queen or a touring bike? Diamond cut looks nice at local bike nights and bike shows. Out on the road it's worthless and may actually contribute to corrosion build up on the engine fins. If you like to clean your bike often or like to do your own wrenching expect roughed up hands. You'll have limited work space as it is with the lowers and all the other hardware that's in the way.
Still your choice, choose what works for you.
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I've never seen corroded diamond cut cylinders, not sure where you may have :nixweiss:
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I've never seen corroded diamond cut cylinders, not sure where you may have :nixweiss:
Mine have been done for several years now. No corrosion nor any other discoloration problem (that didn't come from a head gasket...).
As for the scraped hands? Yeah, it's possible. But I work around my cylinders and heads all the time; including having them all off and back on again for inspection and maintenance. My hands are fine. Don't think I ever even drew blood (much).
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And they look so good.... :drink:
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Mine have been done for several years now. No corrosion nor any other discoloration problem (that didn't come from a head gasket...).
As for the scraped hands? Yeah, it's possible. But I work around my cylinders and heads all the time; including having them all off and back on again for inspection and maintenance. My hands are fine. Don't think I ever even drew blood (much).
I dont' know if I'd say your hands are "fine"...aren't you missing part of a digit? :huepfenlol2: ::) :P Sorry...just couldn't pass that up...
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I dont' know if I'd say your hands are "fine"...aren't you missing part of a digit? :huepfenlol2: ::) :P Sorry...just couldn't pass that up...
Shhhhh, remember; that's just Frank-n-finger's own version of "diamond cutting" ???
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I had the diamond cut on my 2007 SERK, with the Black engine, and have just done the process to my 2012 SESG (Granite engine). I put 65K on the RK, and never had any corrosion. IMHO- it does look better on the black, because of the higher degree of contrast. But it still looks great on my new bike. Anyway, have fun with it.. :drink:
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I had the diamond cut on my 2007 SERK, with the Black engine, and have just done the process to my 2012 SESG (Granite engine). I put 65K on the RK, and never had any corrosion. IMHO- it does look better on the black, because of the higher degree of contrast. But it still looks great on my new bike. Anyway, have fun with it.. :drink:
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Have mine done on my 08 SERK. I like the look with the granite motor.
JW
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Have mine done on my 08 SERK. I like the look with the granite motor.
JW
Have seen granite, black, silver and a few different powder coated colors all diamond cut. It needs some contrast behind it to really stand out. The only thing I've seen that really minimized the effect was diamond cutting on natural silver. On that you have to look for it to really see the effect. Give it some greater contrast behind the diamond cutting, however, and any color background makes the diamond cutting really pop.
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I had it done on my 05 FLHTCU. I've lost blood a few times cleaning and doing maintenance.
For the extra 100.00, I'd probably look into the show cut version next time.
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I had it done on my 05 FLHTCU. I've lost blood a few times cleaning and doing maintenance.
For the extra 100.00, I'd probably look into the show cut version next time.
Couldn't agree more. If one is going to all that trouble and expense and shipping all the parts anyway there's no reason not to do all they can for such a small difference in price.
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I know this: twolanes version on his bike is cooler than chit. If I was in a situation to have the time to have the Diamond Cut done, I'd do it, based on the looks of his. As he stated previously, it looks better with a more contrrasting background, but the show cut is good, no matter what.
Or, I would find an extra set of jugs, have them done, and then pass it on. :2vrolijk_21: I had all this chit planned at one time or the other. Pretty stuff...look at the shiney bright object....
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Had it done to my 06 Heritage at time of purchase while dealer installed 96in kit with HTCC heads. Sending the cyl and heads out took about 4 week turnaround. Had inner cam bearing failure and HD honored the warranty.
20k mi later blew the upper rings and destryed the heads and cyl. Reused my take off stock cyl and heads to rebuild (another discussion) and liked the look enough that I sent them out again for the standard cut. Was a 10 week turn around and they damaged a cyl claiming was damaged in shipping but would not file a damage claim with the shipper so I ended up having to buy another cyl. When I inquired about the turnaround time they said they went to shows and such so they shut down during that time. They didn't tell me that when I taked to them two days before I shipped the parts and they quoted 3-4 week turnaround. They hold the patent and have threaten to sue other small shops that was doing their own diamond cut. Can do some serches on other groups and get the details. As far as the claim that the engine runs cooler is correct in theroy but in the real world I don't think it does much. The cost to me was much more than $100 it was more like $100 per piece + shipping and would have been more for the show cut. The biggest draw back is if you have to replace a head or cyl you will have to get that one to match.
60k miles and 5yrs later I would not do it agian unless I was going to show the bike and even then would have to think about it real hard.
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Update bike is at Brian's Harley Davidson getting motor diamond cut, Thanks for all the help and advice.
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Update bike is at Brian's Harley Davidson getting motor diamond cut, Thanks for all the help and advice.
Hope the project goes swimmingly and godspeed on a quick turnaround. Doing it over winter will, hopefully, help.
I had such a bad taste after my dealings with the company that I refused to use them again. If I really wanted that look I'd find another shop doing the work quietly. Diamond Head's customer service was that unpleasant and I hate the arrogant way they attempt to enforce what seems (to me) an asinine excuse for patent rights within the industry. That they deny us choice in the process is also unsatisfactory.
In a current project I did a reverse effort to the edge cut engine with the red cylinders and heads that had posted a pic of previously. Used the new project's standard silver jugs and heads and put color around them. It's still a good look that I quite like. It might not be quite as striking as the edge cutting. But it's ok.
Also, don't let the wife see the powder coated frame. If she loved the colored and cut engine bits you might be out a lot more time and money if she sees that ??? .