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CVO Technical => Wheels/Tires/Suspension/Brakes => Topic started by: MoChrome on August 22, 2004, 07:34:34 PM

Title: Brake Pad Suggestions
Post by: MoChrome on August 22, 2004, 07:34:34 PM
It appears that after my "out west" trip, which included a substantial amount of spirited riding in the mountains, that I need to replace my front and rear brake pads. Are there aftermarket pads that work as well or better than the HD pads? Are there any warranty issues to be concerned with should I change to aftermarket pads? Thanks in advance for comments and suggestions :)
Title: Re: Brake Pad Suggestions
Post by: mr_magoo on August 23, 2004, 08:12:08 AM
Don't know of any warranty issues with using some pads other than HD.  I just put EBC kevalar pads on the rear of my SEEG have about 1000 miles on them they seem good so far.
Title: Re: Brake Pad Suggestions
Post by: MGB on August 29, 2004, 11:34:07 PM
Just got around 1900 miles on my new orange SEEGlide. Noticed real quick a huge amount of brake dust from the rear brake pads. The dealer says that normal. I know that the orange color will show it more but seems a $30k bike shouldn't be plagued with this kind of problem. Anyone else with brake dust problems and what solutions?
Title: Re: Brake Pad Suggestions
Post by: mr_magoo on August 30, 2004, 08:33:43 AM
Have the same problem, I think some of it is dirt and road film but the ass of the bike is always dirty.
Title: Re: Brake Pad Suggestions
Post by: DW6019 on August 30, 2004, 07:11:16 PM
The dust on the rear of the bike is Brake Dust. It is very abrasive, it will not wash off with water & soap. You need a product like Eagle 1 A to Z to safely dislodge the dust from the pores of the tire & wheel (note: watch the brown rust run out of the tire the first time you clean it correctly). After removing the dust correctly, replace your pads with DP918's and visible dust is gone. But continue to use A to Z every wash on tires, wheels, brake rotor and caliper. You will be amazed the ease involved and how clean your tires are.
Title: Re: Brake Pad Suggestions
Post by: Twolanerider on August 30, 2004, 08:34:57 PM
The following is only anecdotal so don't take it as Gospel by any means.  Only offer it as someone else's insight.  Buddy with a Road King added filler strips and then swore that he started seeing "incredibly more" brake dust littering up the various components on the back of the bike.  He was convinced that some new turbulence pattern (or lack of) was accounting for it.  He removed the filler strips after about 4000 miles and was convinced his brake dust problem was alleviated back to "normal" levels.

Don
Title: Re: Brake Pad Suggestions
Post by: 103Eagle on August 30, 2004, 11:09:40 PM
OK not sure but what about organic pads opposed to metallic?  What type is standard equipment?
Just a thought!
Title: Re: Brake Pad Suggestions
Post by: mr_magoo on August 31, 2004, 08:27:58 AM
Twolanerider you are probably right about the filler strips never had this problem on amy Road King.  DW6019 who makes DP918 brake pads?
Title: Re: Brake Pad Suggestions
Post by: DW6019 on August 31, 2004, 09:41:28 PM
DP brakes are made by DP. The part number for all three HD Dresser pads is the same, DP918. I switched my Road King over a few years ago mainly to cut down on the black dust on my wide whites. But they stop so much better and last so much longer that I would never use anything else. First two sets of HD pads on the rear I got 6-7K before replacement (on rear) First set of DP's went 14K and still had pad left. Worked just as well on the front with polished rotors. Distributed thru Drag Specialities, I bought mine thru HD dealer on 20% day and they were approx $32.00/set. I have a Red SE on order, already have new DP pads for it on the shelf. Also no squeaks, they have ceramic backing, very quite.
Title: Re: Brake Pad Suggestions
Post by: syclone on September 03, 2004, 07:24:39 AM
Lyndal Racing Brakes   No dust at all, no noise, no need to burnish in pads, and stop much better than stock or EBC kevlar pads.
Title: Re: Brake Pad Suggestions
Post by: mr_magoo on September 03, 2004, 08:09:27 AM
Thanks for the info on the DP pads and the Lyndal racings pads,  like the EBC's but always on the lookout for better equipment.
Title: Re: Brake Pad Suggestions
Post by: Darrellh on September 06, 2004, 06:04:04 PM
At first I was skeptical about the dusting on the rear being from the brake pads, but not any more.  Today I washed the rear of the bike including the rear wheel, rotor etc.  Then I did a 250k ride of both city & highway riding.  During the ride I never once touched the rear brake.  When I got back home the rear of the bike had no more dust buildup than the rest of the bike.  Normally when I get home the rear is covered with thick dust.  I will be changing the pads shortly.
Title: Re: Brake Pad Suggestions
Post by: vtrod on September 06, 2004, 07:23:59 PM
After reading about the DP brake pads and the brake dust problem, I was convinced that I needed to convert. However, in checking the DP web site, I found the opinion that the pads to have on the front are the SDP918HH. They are suppose to be softer and much more responsive. DP918 for the rear. Can anyone confirm that?
Title: Re: Brake Pad Suggestions
Post by: Darrellh on September 07, 2004, 05:20:31 PM
DW6019, do you get any squealing from the DP pads?  I am asking because I just got back from the dealer who presented me with a number of options for pads.  He pulled some products & we looked at the composition of the different pads.  The DP pads are almost all metal so I wouldn't expect any dusting, but he pointed out that they are hard on the rotors and he has had several riders change to another pad after trying the DP's because of squealing.
Title: Re: Brake Pad Suggestions
Post by: Twolanerider on September 07, 2004, 08:13:34 PM
For what it's worth; the manufacturer's website touts the DP pads as being easy on rotors.  Though I'm sure they'll also bring you breakfast in bed and powder your bottom as well.  Anyone with practical experience using them have a comment on how they treat brake rotors?
Title: Re: Brake Pad Suggestions
Post by: DW6019 on September 07, 2004, 08:24:34 PM
I have been using the DP pads for over 2 years (about 20,000 miles). I have no squealing, they work well on my polished frt rotors, the std rear rotors as well. No increased wear on anything that I can tell. I do all my own maintenance, Just no problems what so ever. When I originally bought them the dealer cautioned against it, insisted I only use HD replacement pads etc. I started using them for one reason, to keep my wide whites clean, I got tired of the HD pads black dust. I had ceramic on the wifes RA Bird and it cured the dust problem there, so I decided to try them on the bike and they worked. The upside besides the lack of dust was they stopped better and had no squealing, they are cermanic backed which all but eleminates squeals. Just my experience, although I have a couple of friends who have since changed and are very satisfied as well, I am sure there are other brands just as good or better, these are just what I use. One thing for sure, they FAR surpass the Harley Pads, in what I wanted in a pad.
Title: Re: Brake Pad Suggestions
Post by: Darrellh on September 07, 2004, 08:44:59 PM
Thanks for the feedback, it is appreciated.  I will give them a try.
Title: Re: Brake Pad Suggestions
Post by: Twolanerider on September 07, 2004, 10:35:49 PM
DW, that's about as much as one could ask for in a practice based reference.  Nice to hear it from someone who has "been there and done that."  Thanks very much for taking the time to describe what you've seen.