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Custom Vehicle Discussions => Screamin' Eagle® Electra Glide® => Topic started by: MJZ on December 02, 2006, 01:11:32 PM
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Dropped Ole Gertie off to Brian @ Bumpus to have him do a little magic to her, 575 Cams gear drive, SE high comp pistons, head work and porting, replace PC w/ SERT and a few other Christmas goodies. I'll let you know what I have when I ger her back. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] (hope it stays rainy and cold till then) ;D
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Mark, the 575s were designed for stock heads and pistons. Might wanna check with Zipper's about what other cams of theirs would be best for the combination of SE pistons and head work you're having done.
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Mark, the 575s were designed for stock heads and pistons.
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Mark, the 575s were designed for stock heads and pistons.
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Mark, there's the 657, that Don mentioned, but I'm not aware of a 577.
Also, curious if you're staying with your V&H slip-on mufflers or doing something with the exhaust, too? And, what about the Feuling oil pump and lifters?
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Mark, there's the 657, that Don mentioned, but I'm not aware of a 577.
Also, curious if you're staying with your V&H slip-on mufflers or doing something with the exhaust, too?
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Thanks Brian, I'll talk to Brian R. and find out. I have given him a free hand to use his own judgement but I will talk to him Tuesday before he starts. [highlight]Is there a 577 cam?[/highlight] I thought that is what he told me but I just assumed I'd misheard and it was a 575.
Zippers has a 557 cam that is a TQ cam for a heavy bike. The 575 was designed to raise static compression and to fool the motor into thinking it had a much higher compression ratio. If you use this cam with high comp pistons you will run into trouble. Also I would check with Zippers and see about sending your heads to them. Their CNC machine has a program designed just for our heads. Then you could run the 567 cam with no problem. Tuen around time is minimal.
Be Safe
THE DAWG
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Thanks Brian, I'll talk to Brian R. and find out. I have given him a free hand to use his own judgement but I will talk to him Tuesday before he starts. Is there a 577 cam? I thought that is what he told me but I just assumed I'd misheard and it was a 575.
All Right Mark!!!! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
How exciting bro! [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif] Brian Rose is an awesome tuner but I would do my homework 1st. I would get Zippers opinion since it's their cams and they have a lot of research and development with our 103 engines. I enjoyed talking with Tony at Zippers and he advised and I decided what direction I wanted to go.
We are fortunate to have a Brian Rose in our area, but it was my bike and my money and I decided the direction I went after listening to Zippers, Brian, and the Genius's on this site!!
Boy I can't wait to see and ride with you when you get that baby home!!!!!! Congrats, Good luck, and God Bless! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
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[highlight] Then you could run the 567 cam with no problem. Tuen around time is minimal.
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Dawg actually meant 657 cams.
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[highlight] Then you could run the 567 cam with no problem. Tuen around time is minimal.
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Dawg actually meant 657 cams.
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Harry and Dawg disagreeing?
And it's almost Christmas! WOW
Go Dawg!
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Hey, Mark, what the latest on Ole Gertie??? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
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Hey, Mark, what the latest on Ole Gertie??? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
I don't think anyone with the 575 is going to top what you got Brian. That had to be a beautiful tuning job on a motor that came out on a very good day [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] .
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Hey, Mark, what the latest on Ole Gertie??? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
Brian, don't know and am afraid to go see. Got an e-mail from Jerry this morning and it made me a little nervous. Here is what he wrote:
"Mark, teaching Riders Edge this weekend and I saw your bike on Brian Rose's work table. What all are you doing to it. Know you are going to gear drive came but he had the jugs off. Those were some wicked looking piston in there. You blowing it out to 113" or what? What about the heads? Leaving stock or changing them? What pipes? Can't recall, you got V&H true duals on there now? That thing will be wicked when you finish."
Since it has warmed up to 35 now I think I will head over there and find out. I will let ya know.
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Just came home from visiting Gertie. She is in a million peices, glad I don't have to put her back together. Only one real change from the original plan and that was to change to the V&H true duals since I already had the V&H slip-ons. Brian did find some small problems that they replaced under warranty, like the oil pump, OEM badly scored. Should be ready next week. If it doesn't warm up, I may have to sit and look at her, 19 is too damn cold!
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...... Brian did find some small problems that they replaced under warranty, like the oil pump, OEM badly scored....
Hint, Hint.... Upgrade to Feuling Oil Pump (if possible).
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Fired00d
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Hint, Hint.... Upgrade to Feuling Oil Pump (if possible).
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Fired00d
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Or at least make sure they change the shim/proportioning valve to make the stock pump perform close to worth a damn.
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Just came home from visiting Gertie. She is in a million peices, glad I don't have to put her back together. Only one real change from the original plan and that was to change to the V&H true duals since I already had the V&H slip-ons. Brian did find some small problems that they replaced under warranty, like the oil pump, OEM badly scored. Should be ready next week. If it doesn't warm up, I may have to sit and look at her, 19 is too damn cold!
Just came back from Bumpus and saw something that once resembled a banana and not sure but it may be Gertie! [smiley=nixweiss.gif] ;D What do ya think?
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Say's SEEG, hmmmmm
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Is that a hole in your primary???? [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]
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Nice Jugs. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
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Is this spare parts?
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Wait a minute..... It is Gertie!!! Had to check the name to be sure! [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif] Can't wait to see her finished Mark! See Ya, God Bless!
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I don't think anyone with the 575 is going to top what you got Brian.
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Don, thanks, but there's always someone who has higher numbers or a faster bike.
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Say's SEEG, hmmmmm
So Gertie is coming to Kansas City in April?
The SEEG Plate ride to nowhere special for no good reason ---------- but great steak. [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
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Never count everyone out but I'm betting that for just a cam swap yours rules the roost Bri.
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Never count everyone out but I'm betting that for just a cam swap yours rules the roost Bri.
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So Gertie is coming to Kansas City in April?
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Don, if I'd known it was going to turn out that strong, I'd have done the GP support brace.
I hope I don't grenade the bottom end sometime. [smiley=nervous.gif]
The support from GP is certainly a "peace of mind" thing Brian.
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Just came home from visiting Gertie. She is in a million peices, glad I don't have to put her back together. Only one real change from the original plan and that was to change to the [highlight]V&H true duals[/highlight] since I already had the V&H slip-ons. Brian did find some small problems that they replaced under warranty, like the oil pump, OEM badly scored. Should be ready next week. If it doesn't warm up, I may have to sit and look at her, 19 is too damn cold!
Well, if you're doing true duals, you need more chrome!
You should consider doing the chrome vent line, oil filler, starter solenoid cover, and neutral switch cover to dress up these areas that will become suddenly apparent after losing the stock crossover pipe!
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The support from GP is certainly a "peace of mind" thing Brian.
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Well, if you're doing true duals, you need more chrome!
You should consider doing the chrome vent line, oil filler, starter solenoid cover, and neutral switch cover to dress up these areas that will become suddenly apparent after losing the stock crossover pipe!
And even if others are put off until later; the oil filler housing now. Get it done while the pipes are off out of the way. The others are easy and can be done in a couple minutes anytime. The filler spout is definitely a "do it now" thing though.
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And even if others are put off until later; the oil filler housing now.
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Yeah, just ask me how I know. :( >:( :-[
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;D ;D ;D
Where were you guys when I needed you?!?!?
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Where were you guys when I needed you?!?!?
Maggie Valley [smiley=nixweiss.gif] ?
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Yeah, just ask me how I know. :( >:( :-[
I'm I understanding that replacing this part requires removal of right side pipe (Rinehart)? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
Also can you advise if a better time to do this would be during an oil change? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
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Fired00d
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I'm I understanding that replacing this part requires removal of right side pipe (Rinehart)? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
Also can you advise if a better time to do this would be during an oil change? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
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Fired00d
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Yeah, there are a couple screws that the pipes cover up, Gary. It might be do-able with the right wrench. I'm going to take another look on mine later today.
Should be able to do it without draining the oil. Pretty sure the level is well below the bottom of the hole that's there when you remove the filler cover.
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Ok, thanks. I'll be waiting to find out how it works for you. If it does require removal of the pipe(s) this may be an accessory that gets put on next time I have bike serviced. [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
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Fired00d
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Don, have you done anything to the clutch on yours, or is it still stock?
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Don, have you done anything to the clutch on yours, or is it still stock?
No Brian I haven't. At least not yet. Honestly didn't know if the recent work would be more than the clutch might handle or not; though that it might be close would not surprise me. Was just going to ride it some and let the bike tell me what it needed.
Had hoped to actually do a fair bit of riding this afternoon. But work up this morning to some back discomfort and spasms. Took a pill to knock it down some. But I don't ride when I take a pill; at least not those pills.
Will have what promise to be some other even nicer days a little later in the week though. So it will get ridden soon and I'll get to begin getting a feel for the red bike is really doing now. Will let you know if I sense anything out of the way down there when I do.
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We are waiting on that answer! [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
You know me, I have a couple virtues but patience is not one of them [smiley=oops.gif]
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Sorry Chip. I'd actually missed that last paragraph in Brian's post. So I'd have been unintentionally rude and skipped his question if you'd not seen it. Thanks [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] !
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Sorry Chip.
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Chip, did you change it out, or do these come with a heavier spring?
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Brian
Freedom installed it as part of my package.
I'm at the office now but will look at the paperwork when I get home and see what part # it is.
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Cool, thanks.
I think I see another run to Memphis in my future.
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I'm I understanding that replacing this part requires removal of right side pipe (Rinehart)? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
Also can you advise if a better time to do this would be during an oil change? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
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Fired00d
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GARY WHAT PART OR PARTS ARE YOU REFERING TO. [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
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GARY WHAT PART OR PARTS ARE YOU REFERING TO. [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
We were talking about the Chrome Oil Filler Spout #62470-02
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Fired00d
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It had the heavier spring![smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
Yeap, was counting on the fact that, if there was a problem, that's all that would likely need to be done. So don't have to be too concerned ahead of time. Hopefully it'll be just fine. But if not it's nice to know there's a solution that's pretty cheap and pretty easy. Good to know for sure that it was all that was necessary to handle that level of output on yours. You ride it harder than I do so if it served in that application I'd be fine.
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"You ride it harder than I do so if it served in that application I'd be fine."
Just like Hubbard I don't do burnouts or slam the transmission.
I think with the spring all will be fine.
Your not much for abuse of the moving parts so I don't see a problem.
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Gary, looks like doing the oil filler spout is completely do-able with the pipe on after all.
I was able to get a 3/16" allen head from my nut driver set in there and then use a 1/4" box end to get the two lower bolts loose.
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Won't be able to get a torque wrench in there, but my highly calibrated right hand said that the torque was set at "goodentite" from the factory on these bolts. Not a critical area for torque, anyhoo.
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Mark, this is the view of the right side without the factory head pipe in the way . . . . . . . . . and the reason why you need MORE CHROME!!!!!!! [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]
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Gary, looks like doing the oil filler spout is completely do-able with the pipe on after all.
I was able to get a 3/16" allen head from my nut driver set in there and then use a 1/4" box end to get the two lower bolts loose.
Ok, thanks. Looks like it might be something I can tackle then. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
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Fired00d
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Well, if you're doing true duals, you need more chrome!
You should consider doing the chrome vent line, oil filler, starter solenoid cover, and neutral switch cover to dress up these areas that will become suddenly apparent after losing the stock crossover pipe!
Yep Brian, thought I had that covered with the new Chrome starter but I guess I'd better go to the parts counter again Monday.
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Yep Brian, thought I had that covered with the new Chrome starter but I guess I'd better go to the parts counter again Monday.
Let's see, 62470-02 Chrome Oil Filler, 33111-02 Chrome Vent Line, 33919-00 Neutral Switch Cover should just about cover me? Anything else? I still have not checked under the sofa cushions for loose change. ;D On you next trip to Memphis, stop and drop some change in my can, I'll be the third one on the left in front of Bumpus with the "[highlight]will work for CHROME"[/highlight] sign.Damn this site is worse than my wifey $$$$$$$! :'(
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Ooooooo, chrome starter, very nice! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
I think with that and the other pieces you mentioned, you'll be in pretty good shape in the chrome department, but better double-check that with 'dood just to be sure. [smiley=nixweiss.gif] ;D
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Ooooooo, chrome starter, very nice! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
I think with that and the other pieces you mentioned, you'll be in pretty good shape in the chrome department, but better double-check that with 'dood just to be sure. [smiley=nixweiss.gif] ;D
Oh well since you put it that way... Brian how did you miss the obvious.....
You say you are getting the chrome starter??? May as well add the chrome inner primary (60739-01) while you doing that. Let's see what else....
Oh, how about the Lifter Block Cover (18248-99), and if you decide to do the Chrome Inner Primary you may as well continue that theme with these - Cylinder Base Cover For Twin Cammed-Equiped Models (32753-01). ;D
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Fired00d
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Ooooooo, chrome starter, very nice! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
I think with that and the other pieces you mentioned, you'll be in pretty good shape in the chrome department, but better double-check that with 'dood just to be sure. [smiley=nixweiss.gif] ;D
OK 'dood, I can tap the dogs obedience class fees since he was kicked out due to constantly humping everything in site; french poodle, great dane, pug and the instructors leg. So what else do I need?
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OK 'dood, I can tap the dogs obedience class fees since he was kicked out due to constantly humping everything in site; french poodle, great dane, pug and the instructors leg. So what else do I need?
You want more then what I said in my last post???? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
I think that is enough I may want to come to Memphis sometime I don't want your wife to kill me if I make it there. [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]
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Fired00d
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You want more then what I said in my last post???? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
I think that is enough I may want to come to Memphis sometime I don't want your wife to kill me if I make it there. [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]
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weeeee! I'm finished! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
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Here's one (or many, depending on how you look at it) . . . . . . . . What about chrome hardware??? Yeah, that's right, replace all those fugly-looking bolts with chrome ones to match all the other chrome stuff you're adding.
Chrome, Mark. Think CHROME!!!!!
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Here's one (or many, depending on how you look at it) . . . . . . . . What about chrome hardware???
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Chrome, Mark.
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weeeee! I'm finished! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
Seriously if you are getting the chrome starter you may as well do the chrome inner primary. The money saved on the primary gasket (doing it only once), and the fluids will be significant, that and the labor time since it will be torn down anyway. The other two items I mentioned can be installed by you (they are easy I even did them :D).
/me wishes he had thought of this when he did his chrome inner primary :(
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Fired00d
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Seriously if you are getting the chrome starter you may as well do the chrome inner primary. The money saved on the primary gasket (doing it only once), and the fluids will be significant, that and the labor time since it will be torn down anyway. The other two items I mentioned can be installed by you (they are easy I even did them :D).
/me wishes he had thought of this when he did his chrome inner primary :(
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Fired00d
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Thanks dood, I have the chrome inner primary, chrome starter and HID headlight already there, got those for my birthday in November. (those presents came from me) [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
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Thanks dood, I have the chrome inner primary, chrome starter and HID headlight already there, got those for my birthday in November. (those presents came from me) [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
With the few minor things Brian and I suggested, and what you already have your scooter is going to be "Bling, Blinging" [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
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Fired00d
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Your not much for abuse of the moving parts so I don't see a problem.
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That's pretty true anymore. Must be getting old I guess. Haven't broken anything in anger on a car or a bike in close to a decade. On the bike I've certainly become a long day rider rather than a hard moments rider. Yet another reason I'm hoping and expecting not to have much issue with the clutch.
Did actually take the bike out for awhile late this afternoon. No high RPM runs yet. But applying enough torque to lift the front wheel and the clutch held fine. So I'm crossing my fingers and hoping that's something that won't need to be worked on.
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Gary, looks like doing the oil filler spout is completely do-able with the pipe on after all.
Definitely do-able. Just that much easier if the pipe happens to already be off though. It's like a 10 minute job if the pipe is off and 25 minutes and three swear words if the pipe is on.
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Oh well since you put it that way... Brian how did you miss the obvious.....
You say you are getting the chrome starter??? May as well add the chrome inner primary (60739-01) while you doing that. Let's see what else....
Oh, how about the Lifter Block Cover (18248-99), and if you decide to do the Chrome Inner Primary you may as well continue that theme with these - Cylinder Base Cover For Twin Cammed-Equiped Models (32753-01). ;D
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D00d, if you've got him doing the lifter blocks you've got to get him to do the matching pushrod tubes. Can't screw up the theme man [smiley=orange.gif] !
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Candy, wouldn't miss it. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] Watched the food channel the day, it was about KC and can't wait to go there.
Yaaaaa Hooooooo! [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif] [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif] [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif]
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An interesting sidenote; when I went by Bumpus this morning to add a couple of things to the ever-expanding list, the service manager asked me if I'd heard about the H-D xtreem and SE guys going over my bike last week. I told him I had not heard anything what was it about? He said when they were in town a couple of weeks ago they went back and were talking about the Legends Airides on my bike they had seen. Well to make a long story short, the SE and the xtreem guys came back, knowing my bike was there in the shop to take a closer look at the Legends. He said the guys spent a long time going over the bike and when they finished they told the service people that they were going to try to add them to the an SE package.
So if any of you SE design guys are monitoring this, please feel free to send me a fee for being design consultant. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] Also for a few $$$ I have a couple of other suggestions for you. ;D
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So if any of you SE design guys are monitoring this, please feel free to send me a fee for being design consultant. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] Also for a few $$$ I have a couple of other suggestions for you. ;D
Hmmm, that means you are going to have to split that with me and Brian for our suggestions??? [smiley=nixweiss.gif] Ah, hell.... Heh CVO Design team... If you really want to know how to make the "Ultimate" CVO just hang around here, watch what we do, then do what we do. ;D
P.S. Attention CVO Dream Team - I will be retiring soon from my full-time job and would love a job w/the MoCo send me a PM. [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]
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Hmmm, [highlight]that means you are going to have to split that with me and Brian for our suggestions[/highlight]??? [smiley=nixweiss.gif] Ah, hell.... Heh CVO Design team... If you really want to know how to make the "Ultimate" CVO just hang around here, watch what we do, then do what we do. ;D
P.S. Attention CVO Dream Team - I will be retiring soon from my full-time job and would love a job w/the MoCo send me a PM. [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]
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Sounds like a plan, I'll send both of you your 1/3 when I get it from them. ;D ;D ;D
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Sounds like a plan, I'll send both of you your 1/3 when I get it from them. ;D ;D ;D
Sounds good, 1/3 of nothing is nothing, but I'll still buy you a [smiley=drink.gif] when I get to Memphis. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]
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That'll work. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
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Uh, hey Mark, is Gertie breathing again yet?!? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
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Uh, hey Mark, is Gertie breathing again yet?!? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
Hey Brian, have not heard a word but with highs in the mid 70's, I've been enjoying the duece. Now that's a real weird and welcome feeling in the middle of December. Back to Gertie, I'll probably get by to check on her sometime tommorrow; haven't rushed over because everytime I see her there, it somehow cost me more $$$$. (of course you and 'dood get quite a bit of credit for that) ;D ;)
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..... Back to Gertie, I'll probably get by to check on her sometime tommorrow; haven't rushed over because everytime I see her there, it somehow cost me more $$$$. (of course you and 'dood get quite a bit of credit for that) ;D ;)
Mark,
It's a hard job, but somebody has to do it. ;D
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Stopped to see her, she's still naked! ;D
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Stopped to see her, she's still naked! ;D
Did you get out of there w/o adding any other articles of chrome to her?
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She is topless, good thing she is inside and warm. [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
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Stopped to see her, she's still naked! ;D
Damn, isn't that a bit of a long time to still be disassembled? They have some issues, waiting on parts, or just a bit slow?
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Did you get out of there w/o adding any other articles of chrome to her?
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Yep, this time it was easy because Brian Rose was sitting at the bench working on the heads and was way behind. Plus neither you nor Brian offered any suggestions before I went there, thank God.
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Damn, isn't that a bit of a long time to still be disassembled?
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He said a few other bikes had parts he had been waiting on come in this past week and since I told him I was not under a time constraint, he took care of them. Which was cool with me since it has gotten up to the mid- 70's and sunny here so I've been getting some quality time on the SED. Very unusual for mid December. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] Plus I don't have to pay until it's complete. ;)
That sounds cool. It's great when there's contact and you know what the devil is going on and why. Only a worry when you've got no info and have nothing else to do but worry. Having the SED out in the nice weather has got lessen the withdrawal too. So what then; you don't have to be excited at all about how she's going to run when you finally get her home [smiley=nixweiss.gif] ;D ?
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Mark, scrolling back up and seeing the PCIII on top of the ECM in one of the pictures reminded me of a question I'd wondered on earlier and forgotten to ask. Were you just dissatisfied with the way she ran after the first round of work and Golden's tuning with the PC? Or just decide that wasn't enough and wanted to do more?
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I checked on Gertie today too and also saw ultrafxr there. I got some pics of your head sitting on the bench. Brian was taking a break eating pizza. He said he thought he would have you running by Wed. Just so happens that's my 1st day of vacation till Jan 2. I just might have to get some pics of Gertie dressed up! ;D Merry Christmas! God Bless!!!
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Mark, scrolling back up and seeing the PCIII on top of the ECM in one of the pictures reminded me of a question I'd wondered on earlier and forgotten to ask.
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Don, really neither; I was thrilled with the job Golden did. It was a month or so later Brian did my deuce and he was more comfortable with the SERT so I went along with his recommendation. When I picked it up I was amazed to say the least. She smoothly runs like a missile now, occasionally I forget, twist it and have to hold on like hell. I really need a backrest, that baby will run off and leave me if I'm not careful. So when Brian wanted to replace the PC III w/ the SERT, it was an easy decision for me. [highlight]Plus JR blew me away at every stoplight so I had to do something. You know, it's a manly thing. [/highlight];D
Anyway if anyone wants the PC, let me know.
With my local dealer much more accustomed to the SERT, I'm going with what they are most comfortable with.
Awe Marky, Marky, Marky......I will be pecfectly satisfied to be in your mirrors when you get Gertie back. I'm perfectly satisfied in my Manhood! [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif] [smiley=banana.gif] [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif] [smiley=drink.gif]
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OK 'dood, I can tap the dogs obedience class fees since he was kicked out due to constantly humping everything in site; french poodle, great dane, pug and the instructors leg. [highlight]So what else do I need?[/highlight]
Hey Mark
While I was there today I did see something else I would have done while Gertie is still in there. I would have him clean up the wires for your mp3 player and gps. Maybe he can run them on the inside. Whattaya Think?
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Awe Marky, Marky, Marky......I will be pecfectly [highlight]satisfied to be in your mirrors [/highlight]when you get Gertie back. I'm perfectly satisfied in my Manhood! [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif] [smiley=banana.gif] [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif] [smiley=drink.gif]
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Hey Mark
While I was there today I did see something else I would have done while Gertie is still in there. I would have him clean up the wires for your mp3 player and gps. Maybe he can run them on the inside. Whattaya Think?
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Collierville did that, that and about 100 other reasons is why I only go to Whitten now. When I went to pick it up and saw what they had done with the wires, I told them that was pitiful and they told me that was the only way they could have done it. You are right, I need to have Whitten do the MP3 cable inside. As for the GPS cable, don't need it. After I had it installed I found out the H-D GPS did not interface with the 05 radio and allow a priority override.
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Collierville did that, that and about 100 other reasons is why I only go to Whitten now. When I went to pick it up and saw what they had done with the wires, I told them that was pitiful and they told me that was the only way they could have done it. You are right, I need to have Whitten do the MP3 cable inside. As for the GPS cable, don't need it. After I had it installed I found out the H-D GPS did not interface with the 05 radio and allow a priority override.
If I remember right that's a little 90 degree plug at the end. Might not ever get through the bars inside. Could be nearly invisible to view though if it was just run along and strapped to the brake line. Could then come up between the cap and inner right underneath the radio. Hardly see any of it at all.
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Collierville did that, that and about 100 other reasons is why I only go to Whitten now. When I went to pick it up and saw what they had done with the wires, I told them that was pitiful and they told me that was the only way they could have done it. You are right, I need to have Whitten do the MP3 cable inside. As for the GPS cable, don't need it. After I had it installed I found out the H-D GPS did not interface with the 05 radio and allow a priority override.
OMG Mark, I would have given Randy an ear full. I would also let Tim II know about it so you don't get double charged for it. They could have done a cleaner job for sure! Ask them if Tim Bumpus would accept that on his scooter. As much money as your spending I wouldn't pay for the redo of their shoddy work no matter which store done it! JMHO.
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Pictures can certainly be deceiving. But that looks beautiful here in the photo. That was one thing I was actually quite disappointed in with the work from Zippers. They are not, nor do they advertise themselves to be a discount shop. They put themselves out there as a top quality provider across the board. And, quite frankly, the machine work on the heads they did for me was average; very average.
There was no final polish. Straight from the CNC machine. Definite texture remaining in the "smooth" surface. The valve job itself also left the valves seated very deeply compared to what one would normally expect.
Don't get me wrong. It wasn't "bad" work. But it also was not beautiful work either. Certainly wasn't what one would expect given their reputation and the way they present themselves. Would imagine that many customers would open the boxes, see shiny new parts and think "damn, that's sweet." Sweet it may have been. But on the heads it was Splenda; not the good stuff.
(http://flhrsei.org/yabb2/Attachments/IMG_0404_Medium.JPG)
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If I remember right that's a little 90 degree plug at the end.
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Exactly Don! 103T has one and his is neatly mounted. [highlight]In fact I believe he is going to move plug to the back.[/highlight] It gets my goat to see this type of work come out of a dealership and they give a lame excuse! >:(
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Don,
Been running up and down this page of this thread comparing the pic JR posted at the top to the one Twolane posted down near the bottom and at first I was ready to swear it was the same picture. Then I started looking for what I'd expect to see in a HiPo head job and unless it's light shadow, the head in Twolane's pic looks like the Combustion Chamber is deeper ( or larger) Don ?
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Don,
Been running up and down this page of this thread comparing the pic JR posted at the top to the one Twolane posted down near the bottom and at first I was ready to swear it was the same picture. Then I started looking for what I'd expect to see in a HiPo head job and unless it's light shadow, the head in Twolane's pic looks like the Combustion Chamber is deeper ( or larger)
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The combustion chamber work looks great, but what are those gouges in the bevel around the edge ?
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The combustion chamber work looks great, but what are those gouges in the bevel around the edge ?
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Don, I am a little disappointed by your comments concerning Zipper's workmanship.
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OK, I agree it doesn't look real good, but is that bevel edge a critical area? I doubt that is affecting the performance of the finished product, is it?
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OK, I agree it doesn't look real good, but is that bevel edge a critical area?
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Don, I am a little disappointed by your comments concerning Zipper's
Pete, I can't give you a before and after comparison of just the Thundermax versus a Power Commander or SERT as I was doing other work at the same time.
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Brian,
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Pete, I can't give you a before and after comparison of just the Thundermax versus a Power Commander or SERT as I was doing other work at the same time.
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Don, thanks for the detail and I really appreciate where you are coming from. I like the auto tune feature as well and was the only reason for considering the Thundermax again, but I believe the PC will have to come out with something similar in time. The advantage in my mind with the PC unit is it is an add on to the factory ECM so should it crap out when you are in the middle of nowhere (just my luck), the bike will still run, albeit lean, to the nearest HD dealer who stock PC's.
One of the big advantages Zipper's has in my mind is that they produce a package of matched components that have been tested so you know about what kind of performance to expect before you put down your money. With the MOCO it seems like a crap shoot when you get beyond the Stage 1 & 2 kits and I know many people who spent a lot of money thinking they were going to get big power/torque gains using various SE components and didn't. My intent was to pull the whole motor and send to them, have them rebuild including the Timken bearing conversion and return to me as an assembled/warranteed motor. My concern is if they did an "average" job on the heads, how would the rest of the motor come out if they did all that work?
I think most all on this site who have purchased Zipper's bolt on performance mods (i.e. 575 cams) have been satisfied, at least I am. I would be interested in hearing from others on whether they had the same experience as you, but like you, I feel that work never should have left their shop, whether it affects the performance or not. It's a quality thing for me.
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OMG Mark, I would have given Randy an ear full. I would also let Tim II know about it so you don't get double charged for it. They could have done a cleaner job for sure! Ask them if Tim Bumpus would accept that on his scooter. As much money as your spending I wouldn't pay for the redo of their shoddy work no matter which store done it! JMHO.
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JR, as usual, very good advise. Stopped by and talked to Tim II this morning and you were right. We walked over and looked at it, he smiled, shook his head and said "no problem, we will take care of that, no charge". Got to admit they have one hell of a great attitude for customer service, that combined with outstanding quality workmanship will keep me driving the extra few miles to take my bike into them. Kind of sad Collierville is just 2 minutes from my house but there is no comparison at all.
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JR, as usual, very good advise.
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JR, as usual, very good advise.
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Mark,
With an attitude like that, commitment to customer service, and outstanding service techs I believe a lot others will be doing business with them.... BRB... I'm off to Mapquest to see how far they are away from me. ;D
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Fired00d
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Of course you realize you have a place to stay if you ever come out here! And there is enough of us to keep a close eye on it while it's at Bumpus!!!! [smiley=carrot.gif] [smiley=banana.gif] [smiley=pepper.gif] [smiley=orange.gif] [smiley=apple.gif]
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Of course you realize you have a place to stay if you ever come out here! And there is enough of us to keep a close eye on it while it's at Bumpus!!!! [smiley=carrot.gif] [smiley=banana.gif] [smiley=pepper.gif] [smiley=orange.gif] [smiley=apple.gif]
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Thanks Bro, I appreciate that. [smiley=2vrolijk_21.gif] BTW - I was wondering since I haven't seen you use it, were you aware of this new emoticon - [smiley=bananarock.gif]?
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Fired00d
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Thanks Bro, I appreciate that. [smiley=2vrolijk_21.gif] BTW - I was wondering since I haven't seen you use it, were you aware of this new emoticon - [smiley=bananarock.gif]?
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Whoooo! That's the first time I seen it Gary, thanks!
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I'm soo Happy for you Mark!!! [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif] I knew TimII would make it right! Merry Christmas and God Bless!
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Luckily passed the kidney stone at 4:30 this morning so, I waited until the good drugs wore off and drove up to check on Gertie. She is far from finished but at least she has started back getting dressed. Here are a few pictures I snapped today, quality is not too good because I only had my cell phone cam.
Oh, also Chip (Siver-Black) got the PCIII and found CD w/ all the paperwork. I will send it to you Tuesday when I get back to the office.
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Portside:
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Can't believe what a difference the new pipes make. There is a whole area exposed I never saw before.
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Looking Good, Really Good
Glad to see you went with the groups suggestions and I am sure your going to be smiling from ear to ear
Scooter - Looks Fast
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Mark...lookin' good!!! Can't wait to see the numbers and a report from the butt dyno...
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Mark...lookin' good!!!
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Wow Mark, I was gone for just over a week and never dreamed the banana would still be on someone's lift. Hope the final result is everything you are hoping for. Also glad mine can get worked on at home.....
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Wow Mark, I was gone for just over a week and never dreamed the banana would still be on someone's lift.
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We know they can get 'em done fairly quick when they need to. I think they started on mine on a Monday afternoon or Tuesday morning and were done with the cams, oil pump, lifters, etc. plus a dyno tune and 15,000 mile service by Friday afternoon (thanks in no small part to JR keeping track of things). This included about 48 hours down time waiting on a new rear cylinder head to be air freighted in after porosity was found.
Myself, I can't wait for Mark to get his bike back, but if there's no timetable the bike needs to be done in (unlike when mine was there), I can see them doing it at their pace. When I had the Brembos installed last winter this time, I think the shop here had the bike for over two weeks under similar circumstances. It's probably a job that could've been done in less than a day but I was in no hurry whatsoever for the bike at the time.
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You guys are certainly right that the most important thing is doing it right. In Mark's case I'd also be much less concerned than might be the case otherwise because he's had the conversation with them; he and they know that doing other tasks first has been ok.
Short of that, however, such extended service times always make me nervous. The longer it's in a work environment the great is the chance something might get dinged (or worse). And that doens't even include worrying about what someone screwed up that is now taking so long to fix or what they are trying to jury rig to fix a problem that was unforeseen or created.
MJ, just glad you finally get to be General Westmoreland at this point and see light at the end of the tunnel. The banana should be sweet when it's buttoned up. Enjoy getting her back and ride safe!!
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You guys are certainly right that the most important thing is doing it right. In Mark's case I'd also be much less concerned than might be the case otherwise because he's had the conversation with them; he and they know that doing other tasks first has been ok.
Short of that, however, such extended service times always make me nervous.
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Damn glad I read this today, I'd have been up all night worrying about that! :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ Thanks buddy
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oooops....... Sorry Mark [smiley=oops.gif]
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No worries though !! I had a dream about bananas last night. They were all beautiful, perfect and fast. And the leader of the pack had a little flag on it that read "Worked on at Bumpus!".
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Alright!!! Gertie is in the dyno booth. Brian said he'd call me with the numbers this afternoon, I'm as excited as a 13 year old with his first playboy foldout. Maybe Gertie will be my Ms December. ( let's see, turn-ons: she likes long rides by the ocean, trips in the mountains during the colorful fall, chilling with good friends at the watering hole and most important, praying for world peace.)
Should be ready to pick up Friday or Saturday. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
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Alright!!! Gertie is in the dyno booth. Brian said he'd call me with the [highlight]numbers this afternoon[/highlight], I'm as excited as a 13 year old with his first playboy foldout. Maybe Gertie will be my Ms December. ( let's see, turn-ons: she likes long rides by the ocean, trips in the mountains during the colorful fall, chilling with good friends at the watering hole and most important, praying for world peace.)
Should be ready to pick up Friday or Saturday. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
Cool! I'll be "glued to the tube" 'til then! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
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Alright!!! Gertie is in the dyno booth. Brian said he'd call me with the numbers this afternoon, I'm as excited as a 13 year old with his first playboy foldout. Maybe Gertie will be my Ms December. ( let's see, turn-ons: she likes long rides by the ocean, trips in the mountains during the colorful fall, chilling with good friends at the watering hole and most important, praying for world peace.)
Should be ready to pick up Friday or Saturday. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
Don't you mean long, hard, fast rides, never complains, and always ready. ;) [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]
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Fired00d
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Cool!
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Inside box
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Just answered ya. You'll need to change out the lenses, too, to a 68348-05. Mo' money. [smiley=oops.gif]
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Alright!!! Gertie is in the dyno booth. Brian said he'd call me with the numbers this afternoon, I'm as excited as a 13 year old with his first playboy foldout. Maybe Gertie will be my Ms December. ( let's see, turn-ons: she likes long rides by the ocean, trips in the mountains during the colorful fall, chilling with good friends at the watering hole and most important, praying for world peace.)
Should be ready to pick up Friday or Saturday. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
You must be Psyched! The pics of the work are nice but I bet you can't wait to ride it now! Good luck and enjoy! ;) Hoist!
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Rosey just called me with the numbers. Brian, you are still the man! Caught you in HP but on the number that counts, I'm way behind yours.
105 HP and 108 Torque. When I stopped :'(, he told me he could do 25 engines and maybe get one that breathed like your beast. BUT really I am thrilled, I have more than 20% gain from when she was new, 82HP & 87T.
hey, it's all good! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
Plus best of all, I get to pick her up tomorrow in time for the Polar Bear Ride on Monday.
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Just went and picked her up. Damn glad I had the backrest on her or I'd have flown right off the back when I twisted her.
Here are a few pictures I just took, there is only one small cosmetic thing backordered, I bet eagle-eye Brian spots it.
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another view
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one more:
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another
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HID looks good but I have to change the spots
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And look JR, they fixed Colliervilles mess on the MP3
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Rain on the way so I put her in her little bed to rest up for Polar Bear Ride Monday.
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But she is looking forward to go see her SEEG friends later in KC
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Just went and picked her up. Damn glad I had the backrest on her or I'd have flown right off the back when I twisted her.
Here are a few pictures I just took, there is only one small cosmetic thing backordered, I bet eagle-eye Brian spots it.
Not Brian, but I don't see these - Lifter Block Covers (http://www.harley-davidson.com/gma/gma_product.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524441839635&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302287149&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374302287149&bmUID=1167425109662&bmLocale=en_US)
Scooter is looking good, and I bet it was a fun ride home. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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Damn d00d, forgot that also. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
You bet, it is 70 degrees and I had to force myself to put her up and head back to work.
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Also don't see this - Braided Stainless Steel EFI Fuel Line (http://www.harley-davidson.com/gma/gma_product.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524448764950&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374309043342&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374309043342&bmUID=1167425507138&bmLocale=en_US). We didn't forget to add it to your list did we? :-[ ;D
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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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Oh, forgot to put the dyno up,
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Also don't see this - Braided Stainless Steel EFI Fuel Line (http://www.harley-davidson.com/gma/gma_product.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524448764950&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374309043342&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374309043342&bmUID=1167425507138&bmLocale=en_US). We didn't forget to add it to your list did we? :-[ ;D [smiley=pumpkin.gif]
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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BINGO, that's it! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] It still on B/O until next week. OK d00d, you can stop looking now, Visa is maxed out. ;D
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Looks nice Mark. Bet you're glad to have her home. Good ride on Monday and looking forward to KC [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] !
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BINGO, that's it! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] It still on B/O until next week. OK d00d, you can stop looking now, Visa is maxed out. ;D
Aww, but I'm having so much fun. [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif]
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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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Aww, but I'm having so much fun. [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif]
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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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I think you and Brian have more fun spending my $$$$$ than I do. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
All kidding aside, I really do appreciate your help, without your suggestions I'd have been saying "chit, why didn't I get that done when it was in the shop taken apart" Your list really helped. Thanks [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
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I think you and Brian have more fun spending my $$$$$ than I do. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
All kidding aside, I really do appreciate your help, without your suggestions I'd have been saying "chit, why didn't I get that done when it was in the shop taken apart" Your list really helped. Thanks [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
Mark,
You're welcome and I know how you feel. Before joining this site I had work done on my scooter, only to find out that things that were on my wish list to get anyway I could have saved a few coins purchasing and having them installed w/some other upgrades. Just sharing some knowledge I unfortunately found out to late.
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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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And look JR, they fixed Colliervilles mess on the MP3
How exciting my dear brother! [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif] [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif] [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif] [smiley=banana.gif] [smiley=banana.gif]
That looks a lot better! Can't wait to see your dyno sheets to compare with mine...were pretty close to the same numbers. I'm curious to see where yours comes in compared to mine! I'm sure the seat in the pants dyno was a huge difference! ;D ;D ;D Congratulations Mark! Happy New year Buddy! God Bless Ya Bro!
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Mark, I was just looking at your dyno sheet and it is almost idendical to mine. Also noticed it is a uncorrected sheet. Mine was 105.77HP and 107.26Torque. You need to put in your signature the work you had done! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] Very nice Buddy! Conrats!
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Mark, looking good. Glad you got her back in time for the ride New Years Day. See you there for sure. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
Jerry
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Beautiful pics... Lets see, behind the 07 Candy Cherry and the 04 Orange Black - yours is my favorite color [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif]. Great Mods...Congrats
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Oh, forgot to put the dyno up,
Mark, nothing to be ashamed of with that dyno sheet. Would like to see the corrected numbers, but the torque comes in extremely early and is very flat for a true dual bike. Here's my sheet for comparison and you can see that mine takes 'til just over 3,000 rpm to build the torque yours is making down around 2,500 or so.
(http://flhrsei.org/yabb2/Attachments/Brains_Dyno_with_Cams.jpg)
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Impressive [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] is the One word I came up with.
jeffj
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Also, it might be interesting to have Brian graph yours, mine and JR's on the same sheet if he can do it sometime. It's always interesting to be able to see the different bikes that were run on the same dyno.
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But she is looking forward to go see her SEEG friends later in KC
Three things Mark?
1) What is that below the left saddlebag filler?
Is that a light?
2) Looked all over your bike. It's beautiful!
But where's the antenna?
3) Got home today and there was a Fed X pkg. at the door.
You are the man.
Will install on the Classic and dyno in the next few days.
Be prepared for astounding #'s
Looking for at least 65 H/P and hopefully 70 Torque.
Thank you, thank you and thank you!
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Three things Mark?
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That looks a lot better! Can't wait to see your dyno sheets to compare with mine...were pretty close to the same numbers. I'm curious to see where yours comes in compared to mine! I'm sure the seat in the pants dyno was a huge difference! ;D ;D ;D Congratulations Mark! Happy New year Buddy! God Bless Ya Bro!
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John, thanks muchly. It looks like rain Sat. and Sun. but forecast seems good for Monday, I'm planning to meet up at Collierville @9:30 for the Polar Bear. You up for that?
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Also, it might be interesting to have Brian graph yours, mine and JR's on the same sheet if he can do it sometime.
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Three things Mark?
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As for the light, that is a Memphis thing. Right after I started back riding in 92 I noticed I kept seeing more and more bikes with a small single blue lights. They seem to have died out in the past years but it's hard to break old habits. Still see quite a few on us over 50 riders.
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When you get a chance I'd like to see how that light looks illuminated. Also wondering what the local law enforcement think of the blue light, here running a blue light will get you the kind of attention you don't want. [smiley=oops.gif] Come to think of it around here running the lights that project on motor/under bike/car aren't looked upon nicely either. :(
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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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When you get a chance I'd like to see how that light looks illuminated. Also wondering what the local law enforcement think of the blue light, here running a blue light will get you the kind of attention you don't want. [smiley=oops.gif] Come to think of it around here running the lights that project on motor/under bike/car aren't looked upon nicely either. :(
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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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Never had a problem in West Tennessee (everyone is so used to them) but I've had to pull my badge out more than once out of state. In Mississippi, I either change the lense to red (since I run a dual filiment) or avoid the state if possible.
Here is a picture of it:
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Hard to see the one on the SED with the angle it is in, plus it is mounted on the left side just under the pasenger peg but look close and you can see part of it.
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Thanks. I can see the light on both of them. Can definitely see where the addition of that light would allow for others to better see you at night from the rear. It's a shame the "Commonwealth" is so anal about extra lights especially on scooters. There has been legislation in recent years introduced to allow the neon/led lights on motorcycles, but each year it's either tabled or gets shot down. Maybe one day. [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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Thanks. I can see the light on both of them. Can definitely see where the addition of that light would allow for others to better see you at night from the rear. It's a shame the "Commonwealth" is so anal about extra lights especially on scooters. There has been legislation in recent years introduced to allow the neon/led lights on motorcycles, but each year it's either tabled or gets shot down. Maybe one day. [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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Understand, it has been the same here until ABATE got to the right ears. That and everyone putting stickers on everything that say things like "[highlight]THIS BIKER DOES VOTE[/highlight]".
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I have the modulating front head light. The light flashes on and off and gets attention especially going thru intersections! Here lately it has an added function...I have actually had people moving over to let me pass! [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif] I wonder how many are cusing me when they see I'm just a nobody! I always try to smile and wave a thank you! ::)
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John, thanks muchly. It looks like rain Sat. and Sun. but forecast seems good for Monday, I'm planning to meet up at Collierville @9:30 for the Polar Bear. You up for that?
I'm going to try and be there Mark! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
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I have the modulating front head light. The light flashes on and off and gets attention especially going thru intersections! Here lately it has an added function...I have actually had people moving over to let me pass! [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif] I wonder how many are cusing me [highlight]when they see I'm just a nobody! [/highlight]I always try to smile and wave a thank you! ::)
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Now JR
You are [highlight]very special to Nancy and I[/highlight].
The only people that might think you are a nobody are the ones that have not met you yet.
Their time is coming!
All you need is [highlight]just a wee little more horsepower[/highlight]!
Cause you know,
A man can never have too much horsepower!
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Like wise to you and Nancy! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] About that HP....I'm now really enjoying what I got last summer! Does it ever end? I doubt if I will be adding any more ponies anytime soon. Unlike Nancy and you, I rarely go into triple digits when I ride, but I do enjoy opening it up to there! See Ya Buddy, God Bless!
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