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[DCFIREMANN]

Yes that is THE QUESTION.

Now that I am Retired, I will be going on 1 good long trip around the US every year. I started last year. I covered 21 states spent 5 days in Sturgis got to see the Left Coast and put 9335 miles on Sapphire in 21 days. This year I want to leave in early June and take the southern route into Southern Cali. A few of my riding friends and the GM at my main Dealership have been trying to get me on a Road Glide for 4 years now. I think I am finally going to take the plunge. I am tied between the Red and Blue CVO Road Glides. I still have not taken one on a test ride. I have been riding Batwings for over 35 years now. I did sit on the new Road Glide yesterday and should have taken it out on the road. I was given the chance but had no leathers or helmet. Rain today and tomorrow and I will be back in Delaware till Monday. Sooooooo for all of you Shark riders out there, what o you think?

Be Safe

THE DAWG     

[willyB]

I own a batwing ONLY because my wife said so. 

Personally, I would own a sharknose. Looks better and rides better through the wind.

[Ridgerunr]

Went to a Roadglide in 2004, no going back (batwings), my 2015 RGS is even better. Wind management much better. As for the fairing not moving with the front end, took 10 minutes to get used to.

[Fired00d]

I've heard it said by many that there is nothing better than a "shark"... I have resisted the urge in riding one so I wouldn't be tempted. Being of the tall statue I can see where the extra room in the cockpit  could be appreciated, however the one thing that has me resisting is the distance of the fairing away would result in a taller windshield  (for it to be functional) on the RG. I prefer the look of the shorter/shortest functional windshield possible which is much less of a windshield on a batwing.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[BALIS]

Go for the Road Glide .....with no regrets.

[Wesleypalms]

I've spent time on both styles and there really isn't much difference. Steering is a little lighter with the Glide. I also like that my headlight turns at night with the batwing. You have a fun choice and can't go wrong.

[GregKhougaz]

Here's a review from earlier this month:

180 miles today.  Got to thoroughly test out the Fullsac / TTS Stage 1 kit.  Rode with Treeman and his new, '15 CVO Limited (stock and 500 miles).  We rode twisties in the Santa Monica Mountains, Back roads through the very windy Oxnard Valley and had lunch in Camarillo.  We tried several pulls in various gears and the power difference between the bikes is significant as is the throttle response and smoothness.  Kudos to Steve Cole and Steve George for some great products.  I was surprised by the clear advantage of the Stage 1 bike.  So was Treeman.  So much so that we rode hard back to his house to install his kit.  We also traded rides which leads me to another issue. 

There previously may have been an honest debate as to the superiority of the Batwing vs. Sharknose faring but as of 2015, there is no contest.  Today I was able to thoroughly test both CVO'S, back to back with fairing vents open and closed.  Both had stock windshields.  The balance, stability, handling, aerodynamics and wind management of the Road Glide in zero to 40 plus mph winds is remarkable and far superior.  The Limited is a great ride but the Road Glide is just better and more comfortable, especially in high cross and head winds.   That's my review and I'm sticking to it!   

[charles05663]

I've spent time on both styles and there really isn't much difference. Steering is a little lighter with the Glide. I also like that my headlight turns at night with the batwing. You have a fun choice and can't go wrong.

At first I thought that was the case but, it only applies to low speed turns.  At higher speed turns, you point your tires in the opposite direction of the turn.  So, on a batwing, you are pointing away from your turn and on a shark you are still pointing straight.

In the end, I don't know how much difference it makes.

 

[GMR-PERFORMANCE]

SHARK SHARK SHARK SHARK

[FlaHeatWave]

I own both, and have been to the 4 corners on both. I prefer the bat at lower speeds (<85), at 80++ the shark takes over, especially on the interstate. If you ride 2-up much, make sure you take the BSR on the shark test ride,(possible wind buffeting for passenger) and try to spend some time at interstate speeds. The shark is the only bike that I (6'4")can smoke a cig comfortably on the interstate. I, (like most of us) try to avoid the interstates, just using as a speed reference to wide open spaces...

The 10" windshield works for me on both bikes (plain on the bat, windsplitter on the shark)

[Afdharley]

First of all, as a fellow retired firefighter, congratulations on your retirement.
If you need a riding partner PM me, I'm in Owings Mills.

I too was a bat wing fan, even bought a 14 Limited firefighter special. Test rode the new CVORGU at the York open hous and it was a no brainer for me. Traded the Limited for a blue CVORGU and took it home December 26. I have just over 800 miles on it and could not be happier.

My wife rides with me most of the time. At 5'7" she is mostly covered from any wind by me, I'm 6'2". Her head is same height or just a tad lower than mine while riding. She says no difference for her on either bike. For me there is way less wind than the bat wing.

[OBB]

Get one as a retirement gift to yourself and keep both. ..


That being said. I went from a batwing to a shark and now I'm on my 2nd shark. They work for me.

[porthole]

I resisted taking any of the 09+ bikes for a ride until last August. Took a 103 RG for a good ride on the highway and was hooked.
Go for it.

And remember, Red Bikes Rule

Yes that is THE QUESTION.

Now that I am Retired, I will be going on 1 good long trip around the US every year. I started last year. I covered 21 states spent 5 days in Sturgis got to see the Left Coast and put 9335 miles on Sapphire in 21 days. This year I want to leave in early June and take the southern route into Southern Cali. A few of my riding friends and the GM at my main Dealership have been trying to get me on a Road Glide for 4 years now. I think I am finally going to take the plunge. I am tied between the Red and Blue CVO Road Glides. I still have not taken one on a test ride. I have been riding Batwings for over 35 years now. I did sit on the new Road Glide yesterday and should have taken it out on the road. I was given the chance but had no leathers or helmet. Rain today and tomorrow and I will be back in Delaware till Monday. Sooooooo for all of you Shark riders out there, what o you think?

Be Safe

THE DAWG   

[motor1]

Had both, loved both, however for stability and wind management Road Glide wins. Best example: my friend, and I, were riding thru Michigan; when we stopped for gas he was complaining how bad the winds had kicked up and how beaten up he felt. When I said I hadn't felt the winds (and I hadn't) it took me 10 minutes to convince him I wasn't messing with him.

[DCFIREMANN]

I am talking to 3 Dealers right now. Looking for the best deal. My go to Dealer has no CVO Road Glides. The Dealer I now have the most faith in is also where I bought Sapphire. He is eager to sell me a bike. He also has two colors Red and Blue. The other two Dealers only have the blue in stock. We are already talking about what mods to do to the bike. Still on the fence but I am leaning to NEW!!!! I still have all of the motor upgrades for Sapphire. I was doing a 113 build from the ground up including an S&S rotating assembly!!! So I should know by early next week.

Thank you all for the advice. It seems the Shark is the CHIT!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[nytryder]

I have been on sharks since 08. My 2015 CVORGU is by far the best motorcycle I have ever ridden. I have been on Bats off and on for short distances and was comfortable. For 6-800 mi days back to back over 2-3 weeks the RG has been comfortable. Individual comfort on a motorcycle will be different from person to person. For myself the RG bikes have always been my pick. Hope this helps.

[Fired00d]

I am talking to 3 Dealers right now. Looking for the best deal. My go to Dealer has no CVO Road Glides. The Dealer I now have the most faith in is also where I bought Sapphire. He is eager to sell me a bike. He also has two colors Red and Blue. The other two Dealers only have the blue in stock. We are already talking about what mods to do to the bike. Still on the fence but I am leaning to NEW!!!! I still have all of the motor upgrades for Sapphire. I was doing a 113 build from the ground up including an S&S rotating assembly!!! So I should know by early next week.

Thank you all for the advice. It seems the Shark is the CHIT!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

So... you going to get rid of one/both batwings?? If "ole punkin" is one of them let me know... I know you got a bunch of parts (new & take off) I might need/want.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[doublerunner]

When I got married and started my own business, all my toys had to go. During that period I always dreamed of the bat fairing and having an ultra classic. Bought  a used one, then traded up to a new one, in fact it was a cvo new one. Dealer and friends told me I should look at a road glide, but I was stubborn and refused to listen. Then one day I rode my cousins road glide.... and everything changed. By the way, red is the best color... and the fastest

[SBB]

Dawg

I have both and love both of them.
If I was to buy another it would be a toss up with the deciding factor being which one looked best in blue.
Try one, it's a great bike. But what do I know, my Wing is blue also.
Buy what you want, you don't have any baggage to hold you back.
Ride and be happy.


SBB

[popsracing]

Once you go Shark you'll never go Bat again.

[gadgetz]

I'm considering the same thing; switching to a Shark from a Bat. My only issue is whether to buy older model or newer model. Good luck in your pursuit. If you do buy a Shark, I'd be interested to hear your impression on riding it versus the Bats you own now.




 

[SBB]

I'm considering the same thing; switching to a Shark from a Bat. My only issue is whether to buy older model or newer model. Good luck in your pursuit. If you do buy a Shark, I'd be interested to hear your impression on riding it versus the Bats you own now.

If you are considering an older shark here is one of the best.
http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=100383.msg1306223#new
You have met the owner of this bike.
If interested I can fill in the details for you. Just call me.


SBB

[BDMastiff]

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[gadgetz]

If you are considering an older shark here is one of the best.
http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=100383.msg1306223#new
You have met the owner of this bike.
If interested I can fill in the details for you. Just call me.


SBB

Thanks, was looking at an 09 Orange and Black though.

[SHRK2TH]

Wish you luck on your decision.  Grew up with Honda Yamaha with Wind Jammer fairings.
First Harley was an 09 SG, 6 months later traded for the FLTRSXE CVO, wouldnt go backwards
again...

[barrhill]

 I struggled with my RGC [2012 cvo maple] for a while with wind buffeting causing headache after big days +500 mile days.
have seven windshields in my collection 
got a madstadd and I will never look back 

[Twolanerider]

Have had lots of opportunity to go from RG to EG to RK back and forth all on even the same day. So same wind conditions and everything else.  At least for me the best long day over-the-road bike is the RG. 

[DCFIREMANN]

Thanks Twolane!!!!  Chip if I buy I want new. Main reason is improvements in the motor componets and the new electronics. I'm just waiting for the Stealers to come up with the deal. They all know I am shopping and they all know where I am shopping. Soooooo I guess by Monday I should know what I am doing.

Thanks again for all of the input.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[lowflight]

Find one to rent for a few days and after that all you need to decide is what color Shark you will get.

[BigLew55]

The best advice is to try one!

I bought a 2003 FLHX new and spent more money on windshields and seats than gas.  BSR hated it, and I wasn't impressed with the wind buffeting.

I changed it over to a batwing after 2 years and it was the best money I spent on that ride.

I haven't ridden the '15s, but I'd be hard pressed to give up the comfort of my batwing for the big miles.

Just my $.02.  Like I said, ride one and form your own opinion, because none of use know what you want out of your bike.

[Jbbrown73]

I'm on my first shark, and I am hooked!!!

[skratch]

Yes that is THE QUESTION.

there is no question.  just do it  

[2 ROSE]

I'm on my first shark, and I am hooked!!!

Oh...I get it...shark...hooked...hmmm...

[GregKhougaz]

I'm on my first shark, and I am hooked!!!

You mean, "bitten?"             

[MIKEYTEE]

Mike, from one Mike to another, get a Road Glide! You will not be disappointed and will love the SHARK SIDE.
Blue is Fastest but Yellow is mellow.
Mike
 

[FLSTFI Dave]

I swore for years I would never ride a Road Glide, they were ugly.

I have since had an 09 SERG, just over 44K on it when I traded for a 12 SERG, just over 45,500 on it when I traded it for a 15 SERGU, now has 8500 miles on it. 

My wife swore she would never have a road glide.  She road the 15 at Sturgis the morning after they were announced.  Road one again as soon as local dealer got on.  Traded her street glide, which was her second one on a 15 Road Glide Special.  Her reasons, "front end is much lighter at slow speed so its easier for me to maneuver".  "You do not get handle bar shake around 18 wheeler"

Now that she has 9,000 miles on the bike she says 500 miles day does not wear her out as much.  I can tell its true as after 600 miles turning on to our street, which is 3 miles of a mini dragon, I am usually parked in the garage having a beer when she pulls in.  On the road glide, I am not in off my bike when she pulls in now, so I know she is less worn out, and its easier to maneuver loaded in tight curves.

Get the shark 

[michaelokielee@yahoo.com]

I had an Electra Glide that I loved, but after I rode a road Glide of a friend that would not quit bragging on his, I was hooked! I sold the Electra Glide a week later on EBay and bought the Road Glide.

[DCFIREMANN]

While shopping for the new Shark, I was very SUPRISED. Some of these damn crooks are still marking up CVO Models!!!! What a joke. The last CVO I bought was 5k under MSRP!!!! Still trying to decide and still shopping.


Thank you everyone for the comments.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[Fired00d]

While shopping for the new Shark, I was very SUPRISED DISSAPOINTED. Some of these damn crooks are still marking up CVO Models!!!! What a joke. The last CVO I bought was 5k under MSRP!!!! Still trying to decide and still shopping.


Thank you everyone for the comments.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

Dawg... corrected your last post for you... shouldn't at all be "SURPRISED" by what some of these STEALERS charge... obviously some of them are still bogarting the joint and not puff, puff, passing. Times are changing and they haven't figured it out yet.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[CVO2FIXUP]

 I rode both back to back and could not tell the diff in wind protection and ride quality. O, did however see a diff while looking at the two side by side. One looks like a classic HD, the other looks like some one grafted a cowling from a old 1970 snowmobile on to a bike. Not a pretty site at all.  Stick with the bat.

[popsracing]

I rode both back to back and could not tell the diff in wind protection and ride quality. O, did however see a diff while looking at the two side by side. One looks like a classic HD, the other looks like some one grafted a cowling from a old 1970 snowmobile on to a bike. Not a pretty site at all.  Stick with the bat.

Dude you are so wrong...You obviously didn't take it for real ride. Around town and at slow speed there's not a lot of difference...Get out on the slab and up to 70 and that's when you'll get bit by the shark.

[phato1]

Dude you are so wrong...You obviously didn't take it for real ride. Around town and at slow speed there's not a lot of difference...Get out on the slab and up to 70 and that's when you'll get bit by the shark.

I found the opposite to be true when we took one for a test ride. At slow speeds in the parking lot and around town it was nice with the front end feeling a little lighter and the bike a little easier to maneuver. once our speeds grew up to and over @45MPH the wife HATED the wind buffeting she was experiencing, and I also noticed a slight increase in buffeting. It seems that the amount of buffeting is greatly dependent on not only you and your passengers height but also how much of that height is in your torso.

[BigLew55]

I found the opposite to be true when we took one for a test ride. At slow speeds in the parking lot and around town it was nice with the front end feeling a little lighter and the bike a little easier to maneuver. once our speeds grew up to and over @45MPH the wife HATED the wind buffeting she was experiencing, and I also noticed a slight increase in buffeting. It seems that the amount of buffeting is greatly dependent on not only you and your passengers height but also how much of that height is in your torso.

This was our experience as well.  after 10K miles behind the shark and 12K behind the bat on the same bike, I'm always in awe that people actually prefer the shark!  Proves the old adage "different strokes for different folks"!

[charles05663]

I found the opposite to be true when we took one for a test ride. At slow speeds in the parking lot and around town it was nice with the front end feeling a little lighter and the bike a little easier to maneuver. once our speeds grew up to and over @45MPH the wife HATED the wind buffeting she was experiencing, and I also noticed a slight increase in buffeting. It seems that the amount of buffeting is greatly dependent on not only you and your passengers height but also how much of that height is in your torso.

Having a shark, the buffeting I experience is due to design of the older model.  The wind whips around the fairing.  I would expect the newer models would solve this issue with the vents to relieve the differences in air pressure.  Also, I heard the Madstad windshield solves the issue with the buffeting on the older models.

I know the real difference is when you have a lot of wind.  A strong cross wind does not cause the handle bars to rock.  Also, passing semi's is not as jarring with the fixed fairing.

 

[Afdharley]

Having a shark, the buffeting I experience is due to design of the older model.  The wind whips around the fairing.  I would expect the newer models would solve this issue with the vents to relieve the differences in air pressure.  Also, I heard the Madstad windshield solves the issue with the buffeting on the older models.

I know the real difference is when you have a lot of wind.  A strong cross wind does not cause the handle bars to rock.  Also, passing semi's is not as jarring with the fixed fairing.

 

You are correct. New design is much better. I get more wind but it is much smoother than a batwing. No buffeting. Cross winds don't push you around.
I was not a fan of the old design but the new one sold me as soon as I rode one.

[DCFIREMANN]

Dawg... corrected your last post for you... shouldn't at all be "SURPRISED" by what some of these STEALERS charge... obviously some of them are still bogarting the joint and not puff, puff, passing. Times are changing and they haven't figured it out yet.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

Why did this not surprise me. You have ALWAYS got THE DAWGS back!!!! LMAO!!! I have a very busy week and won't be able to test drive a shark till early next week. I'm still on the fence though. One day I'm ready to step up and then the next day not. I am still kicking around the twin cooled WATER HEAD!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[mike jesse]

I've ridden both and here's my take.
The Batwing is nicer for short hops and around town.
The Road Glide is for eating up asphalt.
I like them both but own a Shark.

[popsracing]

As for the wind buffeting I did notice that a little when I test rode my bike and I mentioned it to the salesman when I got back...He told the mgr what I encountered and they had a service tech add the air scoops to the engine guard up under the fairing ...I rode it again and this made a huge improvement...I've since changed the wind shield to a 14" light smoke Freedom Shield and that also made an improvement.

[skratch]

As for the wind buffeting I did notice that a little when I test rode my bike and I mentioned it to the salesman when I got back...He told the mgr what I encountered and they had a service tech add the air scoops to the frame rails up under the fairing ...I rode it again and this made a huge improvement.

one of the few things that you can buy for less than $50 and they do work.  esp. when combined with lowers.

[OBB]

As for the wind buffeting I did notice that a little when I test rode my bike and I mentioned it to the salesman when I got back...He told the mgr what I encountered and they had a service tech add the air scoops to the engine guard up under the fairing ...I rode it again and this made a huge improvement...I've since changed the wind shield to a 14" light smoke Freedom Shield and that also made an improvement.

Those were stock on that bike. I hope they didn't charge you for them.

[popsracing]

Those were stock on that bike. I hope they didn't charge you for them.

They weren't on it when I test rode it...Dealer put them on before I bought it.

[CVO2FIXUP]

 So really, its the taller wind screen and the wind deflectors that make the diff. LOL.

[CVO2FIXUP]

 Shark.

[popsracing]

So really, its the taller wind screen and the wind deflectors that make the diff. LOL.

14" Freedom Shield is the same height as stock...Deflectors bring air in to from underneath which improves the flow around the rider..."So Really"....

[Wild Hog 4]

Shark.

Ha ha ,nice one! I'm a batman lover too , 

I took out back to back a street glide and a Roadie for quite a long ride in January ,
This was on a bitterly cold sub zero temps day which is best for testing the real wind protection on both I thought, anyway my findings were as follows :
Roadie was heavier on steering ! And less responsive than the street glide even though you have got the fixed fairing, I think this was due to the more pull back bars on the roadie, the wind protection on the roadie to me was no where as good as the street glde, as the wind whipped over the fairing and hit me both in the chest and my hands were totally freezing, never had this issue with the bat fairing on my ultra limited!, didn't like the fact the gauges are mounted down so low on the roadie that if you wear a full face with chin bar you have to dip your head constantly to see
the speedo, the glare from sat nav was annoying coupled to the fact that it's miles from your reach should you wish to use the touch screen option.
The street glide was perfect for me,gauges where I can see them, hands warm and shielded and looks to me a lot better looking,   
No as you may have gathered the roadie is not for me, those that like them great, it just doesn't float my boat or snowmobile 

[DCFIREMANN]

Ha ha ,nice one! I'm a batman lover too , 

I took out back to back a street glide and a Roadie for quite a long ride in January ,
This was on a bitterly cold sub zero temps day which is best for testing the real wind protection on both I thought, anyway my findings were as follows :
Roadie was heavier on steering ! And less responsive than the street glide even though you have got the fixed fairing, I think this was due to the more pull back bars on the roadie, the wind protection on the roadie to me was no where as good as the street glde, as the wind whipped over the fairing and hit me both in the chest and my hands were totally freezing, never had this issue with the bat fairing on my ultra limited!, didn't like the fact the gauges are mounted down so low on the roadie that if you wear a full face with chin bar you have to dip your head constantly to see
the speedo, the glare from sat nav was annoying coupled to the fact that it's miles from your reach should you wish to use the touch screen option.
The street glide was perfect for me,gauges where I can see them, hands warm and shielded and looks to me a lot better looking,   
No as you may have gathered the roadie is not for me, those that like them great, it just doesn't float my boat or snowmobile 

Sitting on a Road Glide the other day I can see what you are saying. I may just go buy a New CVO Ultra and get it over with. Not toooooo many Batwing Boyz have stepped up to comment!!!!!


Be Safe

THE DAWG

[CVO2FIXUP]

 Not toooooo many Batwing Boyz have stepped up to comment!!!!!


   Say no more.  The look of the 60's LOL

[OBB]

Not toooooo many Batwing Boyz have stepped up to comment!!!!!


   Say no more.  The look of the 60's LOL

Canadian Bushtech ? 

[skratch]

Not toooooo many Batwing Boyz have stepped up to comment!!!!!


   Say no more.  The look of the 60's LOL

notice that when someone can't win an argument, they resort to name calling? 

[DCFIREMANN]

notice that when someone can't win an argument, they resort to name calling? 

Not sure who you were referring too. I am just looking for opinions on the Shark and the Batwing. I have 2 Batwings now. I may trade one for a Shark. Soooooo that is what this thread is about. I was hoping to get some pros and cons on both bikes. I am still on the fence and I want to Shark but I am afraid I may not like it.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[porthole]

Rent one for a few days Mike.

[Dan_Lockwood]

Dawg,

I have a '09 SERG and love it.

I'm tall in the saddle and I've not noticed any gauge placement issues.  My previous ride was a new '08 CVO SERK that I changed over to a standard Road King windshield.  Just with the windshield attached to the frontend, my side wind gusts rattled me around quite a bit.  The SERG does not share that same trait and side wind is a LOT less noticeable.  I would say that the Batwing and the RK would be similar in strong side winds.  We ride along the Mississippi quite a bit and some times the wind is VERY strong.  The SERG is much better.

I will admit that mine is a two generation old design.  My fairing and the '11 or '12 fairing are the same, but the height and angle is slightly different.  And then the '15 is even more changed with the multiple vents.

I had quite a bit of trouble "fitting" a correct windshield and ended up with a CeeBailey recurve that seems to be pretty good for us.  I'm sure that a Batwing is a lot easier to fit with a windshield to.

I'm sorry but I still love my Shark and would not go to a Batwing.

If anyone out there wants to ride a "heavy" frontend bike, just hop on one of the older bikes like my '76 FLH.  If you let go of the handlebars in a parking lot the bike will fall over, I mean literally fall over as low speeds.  You have to man handle it all the time until it gets up on plane so to speak in boating terms...

The old FL series had the fork tree bearings behind the forks just as any of the other bikes of the day.  But the newer frames probably starting in the mid to late '80s had the tree bearings in front of the forks.

I remember that when I had my '76 FLH out and stopped by Doc's Harley Davidson in Kirkwood MO for a factory test and ride day, the first time I took off with the Road King it felt like power steering.  This was in '07.  After a 10 mile ride I had to get back on my '76 to ride home.  I thought I was going to drop the bike right then and there.  Boy what a difference it was and still is.  I'll be riding the '76 this weekend and every time I get back on the '09 SERG it's like power steering.

Sorry I digress just a bit... Rambling way too much again! 

The bottom line is that my SERG feels great at parking lot speeds, light and effortless in steering and feel, not top heavy at all.  I'm a big guy and I've ridden my neighbor's '13 Street Glide and it felt a bit heavier in our subdivision.

It boils down to personal preference.  Some say the Sharks are a love'em or hate'em look and apparently not as many people like'em as their half brother the Batwing.

I agree, rent one and get some serious miles at all street and highway speed, single and two up.

[HUBBARD]

DAWG,

Batwing looks better, feels better, and rides better than a "tour-glide", at any speed.  Dash on a tour-glide is too far away for me, and looks a little cheap, compared to a CVO-Ultra.  You asked for thoughts..............that's mine.  Later--HUBBARD

[acevtwin]

I bought the 00' SERG Roadglide before they were cool. People teased me about the look of the fairing. In 2004 I bought the Seeg "Pumkin". I owned both at the same time. When I would go for a ride I would always get on the Roadglide first.

[porthole]

DAWG,

Batwing looks better, feels better, and rides better than a "tour-glide", at any speed.  Dash on a tour-glide is too far away for me, and looks a little cheap, compared to a CVO-Ultra.  You asked for thoughts..............that's mine.  Later--HUBBARD

But the lesson wasn't endeth 

[Twolanerider]

I bought the 00' SERG Roadglide before they were cool. People teased me about the look of the fairing. In 2004 I bought the Seeg "Pumkin". I owned both at the same time. When I would go for a ride I would always get on the Roadglide first.

I had the universe's nicest 05 red SEEG (it said so on the internet). It had been a true labor of love.  But between it and the 00 red SERG I ended up riding the SERG 80% of the time.  And that was even when trying to split time between them.  So when what was a third bike to the stable came along sold the SEEG.  It surprised me (a little) and others (a lot) at the time but the bike just wasn't getting used.  Now it's the SERG and a Road King which are significantly different enough rides it's easier to share time between them.  Though the Road Glide would still be the bike chosen for anything much beyond local.

[Jswerve]

I had the universe's nicest 05 red SEEG (it said so on the internet). It had been a true labor of love.  But between it and the 00 red SERG I ended up riding the SERG 80% of the time.  And that was even when trying to split time between them.  So when what was a third bike to the stable came along sold the SEEG.  It surprised me (a little) and others (a lot) at the time but the bike just wasn't getting used.  Now it's the SERG and a Road King which are significantly different enough rides it's easier to share time between them.  Though the Road Glide would still be the bike chosen for anything much beyond local.

What a terrible problem to have

[screaminCVO]

I have both '14 Limited and '13 RG. I like the RG better, feels a little bit sportyer but it doesn't have lowers or tour pack. Wife says she gets more wind on the RG. I
found it hard to get used to after riding a batwing for so many years, as others have said about the dash being so far away and turning at slow speeds and the fairing doesn't move!! Just a head thing though. Conclusion, you need to have 1 of each.................

[popsracing]

Conclusion, you need to have 1 of each.................

Brilliant !!

[Nicky Pass]

Honestly, I have ridden a shark, but I don't want to, because IF I like it more, my wife would divorce me.  I have always loved the looks of the Skunk CVO, but I have never ridden one?

[skratch]

i was just teasing cvo2fixup in reference to his 'look of the 60s' jab.

roadglides used to be the red headed bastard stepchild of the hd world.  now, they are the new 'it' bike.  though, not quite as popular as the street glide, they are selling quite a bit more than they used to.

me personally, i love my glide.  i will not, not own one.  i'm short, 5'4'', and the distance to the dash is a total non issue.  i can go for days without having to touch the dash, thats what thumb controls are for    i rode a batwing for a while, though to be fair it was a roadking with an aftermarket fairing, but close enough.  i didn't care for the 'in your face' feel of the fairing.  it's hard to imagine claustrophobia on a bike, but thats almost what it was like.  sure, you can get better wind protection and weather protection, but really, you're on a bike, not in a car.  i want some wind.  not turbulence, but i don't want to feel like i'm in a bubble either.  my roadglide gives me that.

as suggested, rent one for a couple of days.  and really give it a fair chance.  don't go into it with any preconceived notions.  see if it speaks to your soul.  then your mind will be made up.

Not sure who you were referring too. I am just looking for opinions on the Shark and the Batwing. I have 2 Batwings now. I may trade one for a Shark. Soooooo that is what this thread is about. I was hoping to get some pros and cons on both bikes. I am still on the fence and I want to Shark but I am afraid I may not like it.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[hdbrad03]

I like my 09 Roadglide over the 2004  . I still enjoy a ride now and then on the . (oh I forgot it is the Wife's now). The Roadglide turns more like a Road King than a full Fairing Bike. Handles better, wind is less of an issue and I like design of the Roadgile esp. since it is an 09.

The Wet Head would be nice.

 


    Brad

[popsracing]

 Ride one...See if it speaks to your soul....  then your mind will be made up.

Well said Skratch

[Wild Hog 4]

  "though, not quite as popular as the street glide, they are selling quite a bit more than they used to."






Yep, there's  your answer right there!
There's a good reason why the street glide continues to be the best selling bike in the US!

[kojak]

I had the universe's nicest 05 red SEEG (it said so on the internet). It had been a true labor of love.  But between it and the 00 red SERG I ended up riding the SERG 80% of the time.  And that was even when trying to split time between them.  So when what was a third bike to the stable came along sold the SEEG.  It surprised me (a little) and others (a lot) at the time but the bike just wasn't getting used.  Now it's the SERG and a Road King which are significantly different enough rides it's easier to share time between them.  Though the Road Glide would still be the bike chosen for anything much beyond local.

100% agree! I have a 09 roadking with 16" apes I ride short to medium runs and always end up taking the shark on vacation trips. Have owned several batwings over the years, don't even look at them anymore.

[DCFIREMANN]

i was just teasing cvo2fixup in reference to his 'look of the 60s' jab.

roadglides used to be the red headed bastard stepchild of the hd world.  now, they are the new 'it' bike.  though, not quite as popular as the street glide, they are selling quite a bit more than they used to.

me personally, i love my glide.  i will not, not own one.  i'm short, 5'4'', and the distance to the dash is a total non issue.  i can go for days without having to touch the dash, thats what thumb controls are for    i rode a batwing for a while, though to be fair it was a roadking with an aftermarket fairing, but close enough.  i didn't care for the 'in your face' feel of the fairing.  it's hard to imagine claustrophobia on a bike, but thats almost what it was like.  sure, you can get better wind protection and weather protection, but really, you're on a bike, not in a car.  i want some wind.  not turbulence, but i don't want to feel like i'm in a bubble either.  my roadglide gives me that.

as suggested, rent one for a couple of days.  and really give it a fair chance.  don't go into it with any preconceived notions.  see if it speaks to your soul.  then your mind will be made up.

That right there is some good advice. They are calling for rain all week in the Mid Atlantic so I won't get a chance to ride this week. Next week I may take one for a spin. I am ready to go cross country again so if I m going to do it, it has to be soon

Thank you all for the comments. Keep them coming. I'm still on the fence but leaning hard to the left!!!!

be Safe

THE DAWG

[DCFIREMANN]

I had the universe's nicest 05 red SEEG (it said so on the internet). It had been a true labor of love.  But between it and the 00 red SERG I ended up riding the SERG 80% of the time.  And that was even when trying to split time between them.  So when what was a third bike to the stable came along sold the SEEG.  It surprised me (a little) and others (a lot) at the time but the bike just wasn't getting used.  Now it's the SERG and a Road King which are significantly different enough rides it's easier to share time between them.  Though the Road Glide would still be the bike chosen for anything much beyond local.

Oh how I miss the proverbs form my good friend TWOLANE!!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[DCFIREMANN]

DAWG,

Batwing looks better, feels better, and rides better than a "tour-glide", at any speed.  Dash on a tour-glide is too far away for me, and looks a little cheap, compared to a CVO-Ultra.  You asked for thoughts..............that's mine.  Later--HUBBARD

Hubbard I have to agree the Batwing is the best looking classic Harley there is. I do love Sapphire but I will always have Ole Punkin to ride if I do in fact JUMP THE FENCE!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[fastfreddy]

stop by my place and ill let you take mine for ride... 

[Twolanerider]

DAWG,

Batwing looks better, feels better, and rides better than a "tour-glide", at any speed.  Dash on a tour-glide is too far away for me, and looks a little cheap, compared to a CVO-Ultra.  You asked for thoughts..............that's mine.  Later--HUBBARD

Carl, "at any speed?"  Really?  I'd find it difficult to count the number of times you used to mention or even complain about the propensity Maude used to have to shake at high speeds.  Would talk about moving leg positions or sitting different or a host of other things to change or alter it.  But the bike still got the shakes sometimes.  Road Glides with their fixed fairing never had that issue in the same way the bar mounted fairing E-Glides did.

While the looks are totally different (from the nose on) and many if not most will say the Electra Glide is a better looking ride I can't agree it's a better handling ride.  Less weight on the bars makes the Road Glide a little easier to steer at low speeds, it's more stable in the wind, especially in the spot coming around the rear quarter of one of your big rigs and the pocket behind the fairing for the rider that is more comfortable is a little bigger on the Road Glide.  And..... having had an actual Tour Glide for short while many years ago it road pretty good too .

[Twolanerider]

Hubbard I have to agree the Batwing is the best looking classic Harley there is. I do love Sapphire but I will always have Ole Punkin to ride if I do in fact JUMP THE FENCE!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

I love Punkin.  I thought I'd have the red bike forever too.  Then, huh; I didn't.  Who knew.....? 

[HUBBARD]

Carl, "at any speed?"  Really?  I'd find it difficult to count the number of times you used to mention or even complain about the propensity Maude used to have to shake at high speeds.  Would talk about moving leg positions or sitting different or a host of other things to change or alter it.  But the bike still got the shakes sometimes.  Road Glides with their fixed fairing never had that issue in the same way the bar mounted fairing E-Glides did.

While the looks are totally different (from the nose on) and many if not most will say the Electra Glide is a better looking ride I can't agree it's a better handling ride.  Less weight on the bars makes the Road Glide a little easier to steer at low speeds, it's more stable in the wind, especially in the spot coming around the rear quarter of one of your big rigs and the pocket behind the fairing for the rider that is more comfortable is a little bigger on the Road Glide.  And..... having had an actual Tour Glide for short while many years ago it road pretty good too .

Surely you jest, Twolane!  All I ever had to do was lay this Number 12 on the left hi-way peg, and she would straighten up.  I do remember one time in MB, when Tilley first built that Motor, I experienced a near tank-slapper on Rt. 38, but finally figured out the Boot trick, and from there it was not a problem.  The only real problem I had with Ol' Maudie's handling was at real high speed, it seemed the air would get under her, and she would appear to want to lift, like a hog on ice, for lack of a better term.  Don't have that problem with Maybelle.  She won't go fast enough to wobble.  Yet.  Later--HUBBARD

[Twolanerider]

  Don't have that problem with Maybelle.  She won't go fast enough to wobble.  Yet.  Later--HUBBARD

Damn Carl, that's a whole different kind of problem .

So how much longer before you let Tilley fix it faster?   

[HUBBARD]

Damn Carl, that's a whole different kind of problem .

So how much longer before you let Tilley fix it faster?   

Planning on it being a project this Winter.  If you weren't aware, my friend Don Tilley was killed in a Motorcycle accident last Summer.  Sadly missed, but a lot of good memories.  Later--HUBBARD

[tlr]

I guess I will jump into this opinion pool.  I have had 2 Sharks and 2 SG's.  Alot of this comes to down to a couple of factors, which all are already mentioned.  First is your body type and size (width and height).  your body acts as a sail and traps air and circulates air as well.  Next is shield.  For folks that have ridden bikes with stock shields or shields that are too low, then you are not getting the best riding experience possible.  One of the first things we do when we get a new ride is change the shield out.
Now, as far as ride quality, the RG (for me) was a little smoother at hiway speeds, lets say 70+, and yes more stable while passing the 18 wheeler.  But i say a little. enough to sway my purchase, no.  At slow speeds, less than 30, it felt a little heavy to me.  The SG I have (had a 14, now a 15) rides great.  I changed out the shield and I have no buffeting at all.  Yes, the air comes up from lowers but it doesn't impede my ride or my grin.  If I were to do it again, I would go SG.  great ride and almost as smooth as the RG, but with better looks and positioning, for me.
So, for me it comes down to looks.  I like the looks of the SG better, I also like that I can reach the controls, if and when I want to.  Peace all.

[Twolanerider]

Planning on it being a project this Winter.  If you weren't aware, my friend Don Tilley was killed in a Motorcycle accident last Summer.  Sadly missed, but a lot of good memories.  Later--HUBBARD

I'd seen that Carl.  Sent a card to the dealership.  Thought it was still Tilley's as a shop name though.  Did the dealership change hands since he passed?

[SDCVO]

What I think is interesting is that many talk about the SG looking better but the RG handling better in the wind. I guess thats why some people like blondes/brunettes. For me personally when I decided to switch to a "Bagger" I liked the looks of the RG much better but a few of my buddies were telling me that the SG handled much better at anything other than on the freeway where I had always tried to stay away from anyway. In my early 20's I had a Kawasaki 900 with a Vetter fairing that I loved and I decided that even though I thought the SGwould handle better I had to go for what I considered at the time "the looks". When I went to the dealer, they only had a CVO SG forsale and tried to get me to try it but I was afraid that if I rode it and than got the RG, I would always hate the way the RG handled so I passed and just waited until I got my RG. 30000 miles later I love my RG for not only the way it looks but also the way it rides.

[DCFIREMANN]

I love Punkin.  I thought I'd have the red bike forever too.  Then, huh; I didn't.  Who knew.....?

Twolane I did have a DUMB ATTACK this past winter and almost sold Ole Punkin. But I finally come to my senses. I have looked at the Road Glide again and I am now seeing a few things that I may not like. I still like the option of removing my lowers in the spring. I guess time will tell. I am busy right now so it will be after April 17th before I make a decision!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[HUBBARD]

I'd seen that Carl.  Sent a card to the dealership.  Thought it was still Tilley's as a shop name though.  Did the dealership change hands since he passed?

No.  Don's son, Derek, was CFO and I guess has now taken the reins.  There was rumor that Kyle Petty was going to buy Tilley's, but I think that ship has sailed.  I think they'll continue to do good.  Later--HUBBARD 

[DCFIREMANN]

I sat up in the shop last night in the shop drinking a little Dickel and talking to Sapphire. It's going to hard trading her in. I just don't need 4 Screamin Eagles sitting in my Garage!!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[Twolanerider]

No.  Don's son, Derek, was CFO and I guess has now taken the reins.  There was rumor that Kyle Petty was going to buy Tilley's, but I think that ship has sailed.  I think they'll continue to do good.  Later--HUBBARD

Good to know someone that knows the shop so well think they'll continue on as well as they did Carl.  Fewer and fewer of the long term one family shops out there anymore. 

[DCFIREMANN]

Good to know someone that knows the shop so well think they'll continue on as well as they did Carl. Fewer and fewer of the long term one family shops out there anymore.

It seems more and more now days the Automotive Industry is getting more and more involved in the Motorcycle Industry. They are going to drive the Motor Company into the dirt looking for the kind of profits that they are trying to get. I have tried to buy from 3 Dealerships that are owned buy people that own car Dealerships. It's a no go for me. The screwing they are trying to give just doesn't sit very well with me.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[DCFIREMANN]

Well I thought about changing over to a Shark. Many sleepless nights thinking of the good and the bad between the two. After owning a Batwing since 1977 it was a very hard decision. I went out looking for both a CVO Limited and CVO Roadglide. I found plenty of both. But what I did find that really made me think was a leftover 2014 FLHTKSE in Typhoon Maroon and Blaze Red. The deal was KILLER and I just couldn't pass it up. I actually think I could ride this throughout the summer and sell it for a profit. 30K plus everything else they charge you. I didn't even balk. They thought I was going to trade in Sapphire. Fooled them. I kept the 2012 FLHTCUSE till I decide if I want to sell it. I really don't want another stable of Screamin Eagles or of Bikes in General. I have 4 SE's now so it may be time to trim it down a little. NO DOOD I am not selling Ole Punkin!!!!!! Punkin and Blaze will be the two that I keep for sure. I guess I'll just for the Boss to ask me what I am going to do with 4 Harley's!!!!

So it's official, I am the proud owner of a 2014 FLHTKSE!!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[Jswerve]

That's awesome Dawg.

[Fired00d]

.... NO DOOD I am not selling Ole Punkin!!!!!! Punkin and Blaze will be the two that I keep for sure.... So it's official, I am the proud owner of a 2014 FLHTKSE!!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

Good for you.. you're not as dumb as you look even though you were a "Truckie".

Congrats on getting your FLHTKSE!!!!

You know the drill...

 

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 
 

[D-N-D]

Sounds like a nice pickup for the leftover 14 Good Luck with the New Ride !!

[DCFIREMANN]

Good for you.. you're not as dumb as you look even though you were a "Truckie".

Congrats on getting your FLHTKSE!!!!

You know the drill...



 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

Yep without the Truckie you Engine Guys are just like Cops!!!! Always getting in the way!!!!

I have pics of the bike but the files are too big. Soooooooo I guess until I send them to you to resize it ain't gonna happen!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[stealth]

I am a shark proponent. I have a 2015 CVORGU, my second RG. I am only adding to this thread to point out one interesting difference that may be of interest to some. I rode a cvo street glide at Americade and noticed one thing that is significantly better on the batwing. The angle of the display is much more vertical on the batwing making it a lot easier to see in sunlight. The shark display's angle causes a lot more sun on it washing it out and impossible to see most of the time if the sun is up and in back of you.   

[DownUnder CVO]

I had a 14 bat, then changed to the 15 Shark. IMO the bat is better looking from the front, but the Shark sooo much better to ride.
I had a lot of wind buffeting with Bat, hardly anything with the Shark. I Am definitely a Shark convert!
Bear in mind there is a design fault with the Shark screen, you can see the screen on the Bat where you cannot on the Shark 60% of the time, yes you can get the NuShield NU068RA but it's not a fix! (there is a thread on this)

[RGlideKid]

I owned an Electra Glide once and loved her dearly.  But now I own a Road Glide and see the beauty in her now in a new way.  The 2015 RG is a real departure from the older RG models and is a much better bike in my opinion (I owned a 2011 CVO RGU), but I know some would take offense to my call there, but that's ok.  We all love our bikes and have good reasons why, and that's all that matters.
And I think you'll love the RG, too.  No matter what color you pick.  She's a good ride and she'll be faithful just like your EG was.
Good luck and enjoy your new ride!

[DCFIREMANN]

Well when I was considering to buy the CVO Shark I got into a discussion with a few of my local friends. 5 out of 7 of them are now riding Sharks. I am happy with my CVO Limited though. The new Rushmore Project Fairing is a great improvement over the older models. I think the two things that help me make the decision was the radio location and the handle bar location on the Shark. The downfall on getting the batwing is the way the shark cuts trough the wind and the mileage increase. Now I am sure I would have been happy with a shark. Who knows maybe in a coupe of years I'll own one!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[JoeCVO2009]

I have two road glides, one is 2010 RGC and the second one a CVO RGC 2013, I love the two but my favorite one is the 2010! for the buffering I have a Madstad screen and is great, I made it to fit both of them so I switch from one to the other depending on where I am going...ones the buffering is out of the way the handling of the RG is easier over all and in the wind is a plus, I find the 2010 RGC it's easer to handle in the city... and I really like the looks of the RG...it's all about what you like!

[JoeCVO2009]

I forgot to mention that at night having two lights daymakers it, really brights the road!

[kojak]

I thought you guys might get a kick out of this post on another forum a few years ago

http://www.hdforums.com/forum/touring-models/1014811-the-story-of-3-sharks.html