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[kojack]

Yes,  I know I have to get the codes.  That is now a 4 hr each way ride.   The local dealer tried to rip me off with some parts.  to the tune of charging me 3 times as much as the dealer 4 hrs away.   No it was not a huge amount of money,  but being ripped off is being ripped off. 

Now,  to run around in circles,  that H-moto,  I mentioned,  I can use that to read codes.  So maybe I will get that and go from there.

[kojack]

Too funny,  I was trying to read the codes backwards.  Yeah,  my dislexyia coming through.   I have to look at the slow flashes,  not the fast ones!  DOH.

Try again this morning and see what I get.   I have been doing more reading and a few others have had the exact same issues as mine.  they said a simple clean and setup of the system was all that was needed.   I hope that's all that I need.  I will have er running top notch next week if that's the case.   My Local dealer does not have the reader anymore for my bike either.   I am buying one for my shop.  I will have one for the delphis too.   

[Twolanerider]

Now,  to run around in circles,  that H-moto,  I mentioned,  I can use that to read codes.  So maybe I will get that and go from there.

I would double check before spending the money.  The device gave the typical descriptions about the coverage years and models.  It is very likely, however, that it requires the data port on the Delphi bikes.  So while it would work on a 2000 fuel injected Softail it won't work on touring models until 2002 as the touring bikes stayed Marelli through 2001. 

[Unbalanced]

Kojak,

How old is your PC3?   FWIW, Dynojet released a PC5 system for the MM that is supposed to be heads above better than the old version.  My friend has tune a few of these and said the results are fantastic compared to the old PC3 which was discontinued.   I realize you may have other issues going on, but thought this might be helpful.

http://www.powercommander.com/powercommander/powercommanders.aspx?mk=20&mdl=313&yr=2001&pc=15-040&mk-n=Harley-Davidson&mdl-n=Touring Models&pc-ver=PCV&add-mdlyrid=15-040&add-mdlyrid2=802-511&fullstr=802-511,15-040&prod-type=Powercommander III USBPowercommander V&notes=73,62,73

[kojack]

I am not sure how old mine is,  It was older than the latest model.   It is usb.  but I am thinking about getting the PCV from fuel moto to get a better tune in my bike.  I am soon to be dealer for fuel moto so I will deal with them.

[kojack]

Got my plug wires etc.   I think I'm going to take the tank off etc,  and inspect all wires, connections etc as well.  rule that stuff out.  I have been reading a lot and most people mention the wiring harness in the 2001 is suspect because of poor placement etc.   

[Twolanerider]

Got my plug wires etc.   I think I'm going to take the tank off etc,  and inspect all wires, connections etc as well.  rule that stuff out.  I have been reading a lot and most people mention the wiring harness in the 2001 is suspect because of poor placement etc.

Not just 2001.  But the potential issue isn't uncommon so it's worth a look.  Look from the injectors up.  Anything that might seem suspect.  Especially where the injector pigtails make their "turn" or bend up to the larger harness.

[kojack]

Yeah,  I am going to go through everything.   I will eventually get it sorted.   I am 90 percent sure it's electrical and not fuel related now.

[Unbalanced]

kojak,

I may have missed it, but have you checked fuel pressure?   Have you checked in the tank to be sure the hoses haven't rubbed and possibly gotten tiny holes in them causing fluctuation in fuel delivery?   have you happened to add extra fuel to the range where you have the misfire say 20% more fuel to ensure you just don't have lean spots?   You say it is crisp after 3000 rpm why I ask about the "possible lean factor"

[FLTRI]

Ok, FWIW, the SE211 is a great cam for light bikes and really comes to life with higher compression.
That said, there are  virtually no canned maps for your combo that will be close...ESPECIALLY in the 2250-3500 rpm range. It is a unique cam profile as compared to others in that lift and duration class.
If you want to get the bike to its best running a proper dyno tune by a qualified tuner will produce a great running bike. Not a decent running bike.
I have tried many times to ear-dial EFI bikes with a laptop. I can get it running decent but never close to what a dyno tune will produce. Smoothness, throttle response, and mileage are not really attainable with guessing unless you are exceptionally lucky.
Not knowing what TP compared to rpm makes tuning just a WAG at best IME.
Bob

[kojack]

As mentioned before,  There is no Dyno anywhere close to me.   That's a not going to happen.   That being said,  I am going to be a fuel moto dealer very soon and I will be getting a new tuner so I can use their tunes which I am sure will be much closer than what I have.   There was a canned tune on dynojets site using 211s,  etc....So,  that is the one I am using. 

[Ridgerunr]

"There is no Dyno anywhere close to me."

I hauled my bike 1500 miles (round trip) once to get it tuned. Money well spent.

[kojack]

Hauling it 1500 miles round trip is one thing...hauling it 500 miles,  the 7hrs on a ferry ,  then another 800 miles one way is quite another.   I will get it sorted,  and running good.   

[Ridgerunr]

I hear ya Kojack, you are in a unique situation. Best wishes getting it sorted out.

[FlaHeatWave]

Have you considered one of these?

http://www.easternperformance.com/technoresearch-maximus-tuner-4-pin-connector-harley-delphi-01-13-marelli-97-00.html