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Re: Vent Problems
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2015, 08:43:57 AM »

Screens do look like a good idea, probably wouldn't have helped with a bird smashing into it with enough force to get sucked into the fairing. Sorry, didn't mean to be testy but riding for 40+ years, bikes are so much better equipped today.
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Re: Vent Problems
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2015, 09:02:31 AM »

Screens do look like a good idea, probably wouldn't have helped with a bird smashing into it with enough force to get sucked into the fairing. Sorry, didn't mean to be testy but riding for 40+ years, bikes are so much better equipped today.
Not ranting on your post by any means. Yup, it's a bike, yup, chit happens. If I can do something to improve my bike to MY liking, I will.  :2vrolijk_21:

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I don't know of anyone on here that rides a stock bike. Exhaust gets changed because "it doesn't sound like a Harley". Shocks get changed because "I like the way these shocks feel", seats, bars, windshields get changed all the time.

How boring would it be if we were all built the same and had the same taste in bikes? Moco could build only one bike and everyone would be happy. ::) That way nobody can bitch that "it shoulda come that way".

I'm outta here. gonna go see how many damn bugs I can catch in my screens today :drink:
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« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2015, 09:23:43 AM »

So what do we expect HD to do about the bikes they make without fairings?  I really think we mostly create issues just to complain about HD.  These sound like very rare occurrences and I really don't see what the issue is.  If he had been riding a Dyna the bird could have hit him in the face and the debris would have still been all over him.   I guess it just comes down to if the glass is half empty or half full.
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Re: Vent Problems
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2015, 09:38:01 AM »


Ah yes, but there again the folks complaining didn't spend $15k on a naked basic bike, they spent $40k on a dresser with a full fairing and windshield.  The purpose of a fairing and windshield isn't good looks, it's rider protection from wind and rain and debris.  DUH!

Yup, it may be a petty complaint to some, or most in fact.  But how hard would it be to at least provide a simple screen for the vents like they did for the radiators?  As a person who has been urging H-D for at least a decade to join the modern era and provide managed airflow on the fairing bikes to fix the severe buffeting common to earlier models, I'm fully appreciative that they finally made that change for 2014.  But like anything else, there is always room for improvement.  Of course if people wear a full face helmet with the shield down, all those bugs and other debris (a bird is pretty rare) wouldn't hit them in the face or eyes even if they did manage to get through the vent system.  But I think we all know the odds of everyone wearing such headgear, especially behind a fairing.

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Re: Vent Problems
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2015, 10:11:53 AM »

It's still a motorcycle at the end of the day wether it 6k or 40k.  The vent screen have been available for a while now and haven't been a secret.  HD is in the business of making money off of us and building a bike that has everything each of us want right from the get go is not going to happen.   It's just crazy to me to hear so many different complaints about HD but yet when someone even mentions jumping ship to another brand they get blasted by those that were just complaining about our beloved brand.  Not hating here as this has just been my observation reading in a couple of forums for a few years.  I guess that's the issue though isn't it.  We read one guys issue and then all of a sudden everyone else thinks they have the same problem.   Ride safe and enjoy. 
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« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2015, 11:47:44 AM »

Ah yes, but there again the folks complaining <snip> spent $40k <snip>
<snip> spent $40k <snip>
<snip> spent $40k <snip>
<snip> spent $40k <snip>

Yup, it may be a petty complaint to some, or most in fact.  But how hard would it be to at least provide a simple screen for the vents like they did for the radiators? 

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BTW, those aluminum screens that were shown look like a great fix.
If the MoCo had installed similar, you can bet that:
1.) someone would complain that they restrict air flow
2.) the hot fix would be 'how-to's on removing them to get more air and
3.) someone would post that "it's unbelievable that we have to do this" on a 40,000 dollar motorcycle...


the old complaint was "no air" behind the fairing and helmet buffeting. The MoCo designed vents to provide air and prevent buffeting and they work. How else were the engineers to design them? "Make them flow air... No, wait, not too much(?)" better add HEPA filters! The screens are available aftermarket and they look like a great product for those that want to add them.
The whole industry thrives on fulfilling perceived needs. Big Sucker air cleaners and Ohlins shocks and  BoarZillas are also available, shouldn't our CVOs ALL come with them installed?
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<snip> spent $40k <snip>


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Re: Vent Problems
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2015, 01:49:10 PM »

<snip>?  :nixweiss:
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Re: Vent Problems
« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2015, 07:05:22 PM »

Looks to me like someones trying to develop a market for screens.
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Re: Vent Problems
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2015, 07:07:31 PM »

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I seem to be viewing what appears to be a problem associated with (just) the RG models with the "vent" or "vents" in the fairing related to the last two or three yr models.  I have a 2014 SGS with the "vent" in the fairing and kinda like it as it does indeed work to eliminate or significantly reduce the wind "buffeting" problems.   But I have not noticed any "vacuum" effect and/or bugs/rocks coming thru mine..............I guess I'm asking if the (Batwing) type fairing "vents" work OK and the RG types create this problem. :nixweiss:
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Re: Vent Problems
« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2015, 07:15:28 PM »

Looks to me like someones trying to develop a market for screens.
Klockwerks already sells them as they see there's a market for them. They started making them shortly after the '15 was released. I have no dog in the marketing fight by any means. I do not sell them. I will not sell them. I've given away extra sets that I've made. I guess you could also say that people are developing a market for other aftermarket goodies too. Like exhaust, tuning software, seats, windshields, handlebars, tagalong trailers.........
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Re: Vent Problems
« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2015, 07:18:46 PM »

:confused5:
I seem to be viewing what appears to be a problem associated with (just) the RG models with the "vent" or "vents" in the fairing related to the last two or three yr models.  I have a 2014 SGS with the "vent" in the fairing and kinda like it as it does indeed work to eliminate or significantly reduce the wind "buffeting" problems.   But I have not noticed any "vacuum" effect and/or bugs/rocks coming thru mine..............I guess I'm asking if the (Batwing) type fairing "vents" work OK and the RG types create this problem. :nixweiss:
Your Battie is good. It does not have two chutes pointing right at your shoulders and one more at your forehead. The one in yours pretty much makes a sweeping 90* bend (almost) from the front of your fairing to the top of the fairing. I'm sure the occasional bug or small pebble kicked up in front of you has a chance of funneling in the mail slot on yours and hitting you in the face, but the chances are a lot slimmer on a BW as opposed to a Shark.
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Re: Vent Problems
« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2015, 07:30:18 PM »

Klockwerks already sells them as they see there's a market for them. They started making them shortly after the '15 was released. I have no dog in the marketing fight by any means. I do not sell them. I will not sell them. I've given away extra sets that I've made. I guess you could also say that people are developing a market for other aftermarket goodies too. Like exhaust, tuning software, seats, windshields, handlebars, tagalong trailers.........


Sorry, didn't mean to offend. Trying for comical sarcasm. Guess I should have added a smiley face.
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Re: Vent Problems
« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2015, 08:20:15 PM »


Sorry, didn't mean to offend. Trying for comical sarcasm. Guess I should have added a smiley face.
Gotcha  :2vrolijk_09:
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Re: Vent Problems
« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2015, 12:51:02 AM »

For those of us who've owned Sharks or Batwings in the past, I think the vents can catch you by surprise when you go through a dust or dirt cloud, but I don't get any sense of a vortex or suction taking place.  Nor of rocks being "sucked" into the vents. 
The vents just allow the particulates to pass thru the fairing and right at you, and then you become very aware of the directing of air they really do when that air has dust or dirt in it. 
I happen to agree with those who say they think the vent are good and work well.  I like mine a lot and for the most part, I think Harley did a bang up job with them.  Would have been nicer if they had pre-installed screens in all three holes for us, but hey, I'm just happy to have vents on hot days!  I did have a bug channel thru the mail slot yesterday and splatter on my forehead, but that's the first one I've been hit by in that way in almost 2000 miles.  And just like the rest of y'all, it wasn't the first bug strike and it sure as heck won't be the last!
I'm figuring the vents will get closed in colder weather, so I don't see a big deal with it.  I really like the amount of flow-through they provide, and until I end up with bird pieces coming through them and ending up on my chest, I'm a happy camper.   :o
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Re: Vent Problems
« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2015, 11:02:32 PM »

I, personally, think the screens look like crap and I am not sure how anything can hit you in the face if your visor is closed. I ride with mine closed and I do not worry about gravel and stones coming thru a slot and hitting me, where does all this rock come from? Do you folks tailgate constantly? Do you live in areas that don't have pavement? This thread just carries no weight to me. And Klockwerks would sell anything that someone would buy and someone will always buy stuff for  a HD regardless if it works or looks acceptable or not, IE: Seen a Mulstad (spelling?) windshield???
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