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114 inch engine rumor is no more
« on: August 11, 2016, 01:50:11 PM »

EPA report for the 107/114

https://www3.epa.gov/otaq/crttst.htm

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CVO STREET GLIDE, CVO ULTRA LIMITED, ELECTRA GLIDE ULTRA LIMITED LOW, ROAD GLIDE ULTRA, ULTRA LIMITED, ULTRA LIMITED SHRINE EDITION


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Re: 114 inch engine rumor is no more
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2016, 04:20:51 PM »

Bummer No cvo Road Glide this year. ???
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Re: 114 inch engine rumor is no more
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2016, 05:01:13 PM »


Lousy report format compared to the CARB reports.

Took out the non-essential info and converted to pdf, click on attachment.  You'll need to increase the zoom level and scroll side to side to see it all.

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Re: 114 inch engine rumor is no more
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2016, 05:06:48 PM »

EPA report for the 107/114

https://www3.epa.gov/otaq/crttst.htm

includes

CVO STREET GLIDE, CVO ULTRA LIMITED, ELECTRA GLIDE ULTRA LIMITED LOW, ROAD GLIDE ULTRA, ULTRA LIMITED, ULTRA LIMITED SHRINE EDITION

I'm thinking this report is not complete. Why would the MoCo drop the RGS models and only make a RGU? Something is amiss.
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Re: 114 inch engine rumor is no more
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2016, 05:12:45 PM »

The street glide and street glide special is not on there either.
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Re: 114 inch engine rumor is no more
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2016, 05:15:11 PM »

Guess the 8 valve Milwaukee Eight isn't ready for prime time yet.
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Re: 114 inch engine rumor is no more
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2016, 05:17:59 PM »

unless the report is not complete. can't see them not making a street glide or the road glide.
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Re: 114 inch engine rumor is no more
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2016, 07:24:11 PM »

Guess the 8 valve Milwaukee Eight isn't ready for prime time yet.

First thing I looked at was how many valves per cylinder in the chart.  Both the 107 and the 114 still say 2 valves per cylinder.  Could be a mistake I suppose.

I think I'll wait to see the CARB report, they are usually very accurate and a lot more user friendly to read.

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Re: 114 inch engine rumor is no more
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2016, 09:33:10 PM »

3rd year in a row for the SESG again. Curious as to what the other two will be.

If it is only 2 valves per cylinder as this states, I wonder what the hell is going on with the new rocker covers then.
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Re: 114 inch engine rumor is no more
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2016, 09:35:40 PM »

It's a typo 4 valves per cylinder, only reason to have the bumps there
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Re: 114 inch engine rumor is no more
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2016, 07:20:55 AM »

List looks very incomplete.  Missing several bikes.

Lets hope there is a Road glide special and a CVO road glide
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Re: 114 inch engine rumor is no more
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2016, 07:54:33 AM »

We will know August 21st or the morning of the 22nd depending on when the MoCo updates their website and from dealer meeting photos... :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: 114 inch engine rumor is no more
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2016, 10:44:53 AM »

not sure that helps much??

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Re: 114 inch engine rumor is no more
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2016, 10:48:18 AM »

Only 10 more days ;D
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Re: 114 inch engine rumor is no more
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2016, 10:56:57 AM »

Pretty bizarre if they actually are not offering the FLHX as it's been the *best seller* for a decade or so.
Also, no Road Kings or Electra Glide standard.... I sort of doubt that the MoCo has quit the LEO market.

The list has to be incomplete.
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Re: 114 inch engine rumor is no more
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2016, 06:21:08 PM »

1868cc (114ci) engine for CVO models
http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/harley-davidson/harley-davidson-to-announce-107ci-and-114ci-milwaukee-eight-engine.html?utm_content=titlebreaking&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=motorcycle_breaking_news&utm_source=newmo20160817&utm_term=Motorcycle%20Breaking%20News%20Subscribers

That articles cites some EPA (Federal not California CARB) docs as the new engine still only being two valves per head while offering other speculation as to the derivation of the new name.
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Re: 114 inch engine rumor is no more
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2016, 06:24:48 PM »

That articles cites some EPA (Federal not California CARB) docs as the new engine still only being two valves per head while offering other speculation as to the derivation of the new name.
But look at the post about the 107 to 114 upgrade kit.  It clearly shows 8 valve springs.  Guess we'll know in a few more days.
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Re: 114 inch engine rumor is no more
« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2016, 06:27:37 PM »

But look at the post about the 107 to 114 upgrade kit.  It clearly shows 8 valve springs.  Guess we'll know in a few more days.

And 4 reliefs in each piston....it's an 8 valve motor guaranteed
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Re: 114 inch engine rumor is no more
« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2016, 06:36:05 PM »

But look at the post about the 107 to 114 upgrade kit.  It clearly shows 8 valve springs.  Guess we'll know in a few more days.

I know Jerry.  Was too subtle in my sarcasm there.  Epic failure on my part  :drink: .
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« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2016, 06:37:19 PM »

I know Jerry.  Was too subtle in my sarcasm there.  Epic failure on my part  :drink: .
Subtle, you!  Sarcastic, you!  Never, never.   ;D
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« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2016, 07:31:56 PM »

Subtle, you!  Sarcastic, you!  Never, never.   ;D


I know, I know....  :huepfenlol2:


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« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2016, 08:23:37 PM »


I know, I know....  :huepfenlol2:


You going to Arkansas next month?
I wanted to and planned to but the Queen has another priority so I will not. Hope to next year though.


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« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2016, 09:23:15 PM »

I wanted to and planned to but the Queen has another priority so I will not. Hope to next year though.


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Re: 114 inch engine rumor is no more
« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2016, 01:49:01 PM »

If your at the show ask about Rev 2 of the motor.   Should be an interesting conversation.
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« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2016, 02:29:21 PM »

Cycle World appears to have the most comprehensive early poop...

http://www.cycleworld.com/
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