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Re: 2017 CVO 114 mufflers!
« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2016, 11:11:46 PM »

My bike is licensed and registered in Oregon with a Oregon address..
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Re: 2017 CVO 114 mufflers!
« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2016, 11:14:25 PM »

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Also bought bike in OR and dealer sent him mufflers which Steve sent back to that dealer.
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Re: 2017 CVO 114 mufflers!
« Reply #32 on: December 02, 2016, 08:17:20 AM »

Also bought bike in OR and dealer sent him mufflers which Steve sent back to that dealer.
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Just wondering, They offered me the baffles if I sent my pipes when I bought my bike. But I figured they wouldn't do it since I live in Cali w/ a Cali address so I waited and ordered them and shipped them to Colorado where my brother lives.
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Re: 2017 CVO 114 mufflers!
« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2016, 10:55:41 AM »

I would also like to hear a sound clip of the 2017 CVO Mufflers with the New Baffles in them. I need to do something with mine during the off season.
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Re: 2017 CVO 114 mufflers!
« Reply #34 on: December 28, 2016, 06:17:09 PM »

Glad your happy with the baffles and their tone!
Progress on the new 8 valve header is moving right along. This is one of several different collector configurations that will be hitting the dyno
bolted to a new 114 CVO. From there it's a process of trial and error to see what delivers the best TQ curve. Its very possible we may end up
with two headers again. One favoring the basic stage I builds and the other for the higher power levels that we know are coming with this new 8 valve motor.
Everyone on the Fullsac team is excited to be working on HDs latest effort to raise the bar. So far its looking like they have raised it substantially with this all new powerplant.

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  Hey Steve, would you ever do a dino comparison between your new M8 head pipes and a de-catted stock header with your inserts in the slip ons. I know allot of folks will be removing the cat and running your baffles. So wondering what the actual diff is.  A builder in Toronto Canada once told me that the de catted headers actually work very well. Said the engines like that open chamber that is created once the cat is removed. Thanx.
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Re: 2017 CVO 114 mufflers!
« Reply #35 on: December 28, 2016, 08:54:03 PM »

  Hey Steve, would you ever do a dino comparison between your new M8 head pipes and a de-catted stock header with your inserts in the slip ons. I know allot of folks will be removing the cat and running your baffles. So wondering what the actual diff is.  A builder in Toronto Canada once told me that the de catted headers actually work very well. Said the engines like that open chamber that is created once the cat is removed. Thanx.

We haven't cut the cat out of a stocker yet. For us its kinda pointless as the demand is for a replacement header. Most will keep the stock header unmolested and stored on a shelf should it ever be needed to complete a warranty claim. But for those who have time to play, I'm sure there is a few HP bottled up in the stock headpipe. ::)

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Re: 2017 CVO 114 mufflers!
« Reply #36 on: December 29, 2016, 07:09:23 AM »

We haven't cut the cat out of a stocker yet. For us its kinda pointless as the demand is for a replacement header. Most will keep the stock header unmolested and stored on a shelf should it ever be needed to complete a warranty claim. But for those who have time to play, I'm sure there is a few HP bottled up in the stock headpipe. ::)

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How is work on the replacement header coming along?  Have you settled on a design yet?  When do you anticipate them going into production?

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Re: 2017 CVO 114 mufflers!
« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2016, 09:08:41 AM »

How is work on the replacement header coming along?  Have you settled on a design yet?  When do you anticipate them going into production?

Thanks.

I finalized testing a few weeks ago. We just finished the CNC programs for the primary tubes, much more difficult on this header than the 2016. Tolerances are way tighter everywhere. Working on the new billit crossover mount while waiting on another vendor for the tapered transitions required for the 2.5 muffler inlet. Holidays haven't helped, everybody has been taking time off as they should. Right after the first everyone will get their brains back on work. I think we will have something available by end of January. Just in time to try the MX header with a new TTS cam. Cole has been sending me dyno charts, he has the SE 447 cam stomped from beginning to end!

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Re: 2017 CVO 114 mufflers!
« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2016, 09:48:47 AM »

Just in time to try the MX header with a new TTS cam. Cole has been sending me dyno charts, he has the SE 447 cam stomped from beginning to end!

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That's exciting news! Do any of the Dyno Charts have the TTS Cam with the 107 or is it all about the 114?
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Re: 2017 CVO 114 mufflers!
« Reply #39 on: December 29, 2016, 10:10:44 AM »


That's exciting news! Do any of the Dyno Charts have the TTS Cam with the 107 or is it all about the 114?

Cole has a 107 that he's testing with. Like me he's too cheap to buy a 114. Lol..
The last dyno chart he sent was a 107, SE 447 VS TTS 100. The peak gains were 5 HP and 7 TQ.
At 2K rpm there was a 6 FT pound gain! Looking good. :2vrolijk_21:

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Re: 2017 CVO 114 mufflers!
« Reply #40 on: December 29, 2016, 10:15:46 AM »

That's Awesome! Will you will be marketing these cams with one of your package deals?
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Re: 2017 CVO 114 mufflers!
« Reply #41 on: December 29, 2016, 11:24:20 AM »

That's Awesome! Will you will be marketing these cams with one of your package deals?

That's the plan. Big bore kits are in the works too. Harley made it way too easy to bolt on bigger barrels.

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Re: 2017 CVO 114 mufflers!
« Reply #42 on: December 29, 2016, 09:37:22 PM »

Cole has a 107 that he's testing with. Like me he's too cheap to buy a 114. Lol..
The last dyno chart he sent was a 107, SE 447 VS TTS 100. The peak gains were 5 HP and 7 TQ.
At 2K rpm there was a 6 FT pound gain! Looking good. :2vrolijk_21:

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How will that TTS 100 cam Steve Cole has for the 107 do in the 114?  Saw one of his dyno runs posted on another site with it in the 107, looks real nice.
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Re: 2017 CVO 114 mufflers!
« Reply #43 on: December 30, 2016, 10:07:12 AM »

How will that TTS 100 cam Steve Cole has for the 107 do in the 114?  Saw one of his dyno runs posted on another site with it in the 107, looks real nice.

If its another dyno comparison of the 447 VS the TTS 100, I would think the gains would look similar. As far as I know the 107 and 114 are the same motors with the exception of bore and stroke. The 114 head may have a few more CC in the chamber to offset the compression gain, but I think the valve sizes and ports are the same. Hopefully they learned from the last CVO motor and are keeping it simple.  :2vrolijk_21:

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Re: 2017 CVO 114 mufflers!
« Reply #44 on: February 22, 2017, 08:07:02 AM »

If its another dyno comparison of the 447 VS the TTS 100, I would think the gains would look similar. As far as I know the 107 and 114 are the same motors with the exception of bore and stroke. The 114 head may have a few more CC in the chamber to offset the compression gain, but I think the valve sizes and ports are the same. Hopefully they learned from the last CVO motor and are keeping it simple.  :2vrolijk_21:

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Any idea when your head pipe will be available for the M8?  I'm really hoping soon.  There are several other options out there but I am really trying to hold off for yours.

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