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When to replace Lifters on 110.
« on: September 05, 2017, 08:40:23 AM »

Hello all,

I have a 2015 cvo rg with 7k plus (still under warranty) miles and am looking for suggestions on when to replace the stock Lifters and should I go with s&s or se?

While they are in the should I upgrade the cam (SE585) and upgrade the cam back plate?

Currently have fullsac dx pipe and tts tune.

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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2017, 08:49:05 AM »

While the stock lifters should be good for a while, I'd replace them this winter for peace of mind. The S&S lifters are a proven good product, not so with the SE lifters.  The SE585 cam need a little more than stock compression to shine- if you want to stay with stock compression, and just elevate the curve, TTS100 cam will do that. If you want more midrange power, and are willing to change compression, then there are a lot of choices available to you. The first one that comes to mind is the SE117 drop on cylinders & pistons, combined with a TTS150 cam. Very snappy.
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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2017, 09:01:03 AM »

"When to replace lifters on a 110"

Before it leaves the dealer. ;)
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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2017, 09:13:24 AM »

The day after it goes out of warranty!


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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2017, 09:35:12 AM »

The day after it goes out of warranty!


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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2017, 11:45:14 AM »

If you ask me, do it now. I am still waiting for my bike to be repaired after lifter failed at 8000 miles.

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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2017, 12:11:44 PM »

Today.
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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2017, 02:09:13 PM »

I just returned home from Colorado.  At 19,800 miles my 2014 tapped from Ouray to Montrose..  Then noise went away.  Rode 1200 miles home.  Ran fine but had clatter on cold start. Kept looking for U-Haul places to get home if need be.  Made it home. Pulled drain plug and had metal-never had metal before.  Removed lifters and 1 front lifter had needle bearings missing and roller was intact and round and not flat spotted.  Metal in oil filter and thru out engine but no glitter in top end when I removed rocker arms to install rocker lockers. Now installing S&S premium lifters and reinstalling stock push rods.  Will ride about 30 miles to make sure ok and then change oil and filter again before heading for Maggie Valley.  Know I am taking a big chance in not tearing it down further to get rid of debris and to look at cams and oil pump.

My 2010 had lifter needle bearing failure at 28,000 miles.  I do not ride hard, do not lug and always keep above 2200 rpm's, and use Redline 20W50 motorcycle oil and K&N oil filters changed regularly.   

We are stupid to let Harley get by with this.  No new Harley's in my future.  It's truly a crying shame.  If they offered a 5 year warranty like the new Yamaha, the sum bitches would be out of business.    :soapbox:

The sad thing is for the first 8,000 miles it was the quietest Harley motor I had owned outside of a 2003 Fatboy with a 88..
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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2017, 09:16:22 PM »

I just returned home from Colorado.  At 19,800 miles my 2014 tapped from Ouray to Montrose..  Then noise went away.  Rode 1200 miles home.  Ran fine but had clatter on cold start. Kept looking for U-Haul places to get home if need be.  Made it home. Pulled drain plug and had metal-never had metal before.  Removed lifters and 1 front lifter had needle bearings missing and roller was intact and round and not flat spotted.  Metal in oil filter and thru out engine but no glitter in top end when I removed rocker arms to install rocker lockers. Now installing S&S premium lifters and reinstalling stock push rods.  Will ride about 30 miles to make sure ok and then change oil and filter again before heading for Maggie Valley.  Know I am taking a big chance in not tearing it down further to get rid of debris and to look at cams and oil pump.

My 2010 had lifter needle bearing failure at 28,000 miles.  I do not ride hard, do not lug and always keep above 2200 rpm's, and use Redline 20W50 motorcycle oil and K&N oil filters changed regularly.   

We are stupid to let Harley get by with this.  No new Harley's in my future.  It's truly a crying shame.  If they offered a 5 year warranty like the new Yamaha, the sum bitches would be out of business.    :soapbox:

The sad thing is for the first 8,000 miles it was the quietest Harley motor I had owned outside of a 2003 Fatboy with a 88..

The least I would do is drop the oil pan and clean it.

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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2017, 09:46:22 PM »

Hate to hear this Bob, deal with it and be done. I ain't no master tech myself but DCFIREMAN makes a good point, maybe even flush the oil cooler too. You doing the wrenching yourself?

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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2017, 09:59:02 PM »

Don't cut such obvious corners Bob.  Please.  It'll strand your ass on the side of the road somewhere (if you're lucky) or lock up and plant your ass on the road somewhere (if you're really unlucky).  Mike, Phil, the whole crowd; we don't want to see your ass in any way misplaced.
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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2017, 10:27:31 PM »

Maybe I was just lucky.  Replaced my lifters with S&S premium the month after warranty ran out at 20k miles.  Still a very noisy valve train.  Stock lifters looked ok when they came out and never seen any metal on drain plugs.
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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2017, 10:29:20 PM »

This extended oil plug came to mind in a case like this, of course the dealers will say there isn't a need but....the end piece is a rare earth magnet, it gets up to where the oil is actually circulating, of course it will only capture ferrous material. Drag specialty part.

It'll help balance the chi of the bike too.  :D

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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2017, 10:56:42 PM »

One thing is for sure, after being on this forum for the past year I have learned that it is best to err on the side of caution when it comes to these 110s. Sooner, the better. That being said, I am about ready for my 5k service and will be having the lifters swapped then.
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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2017, 11:16:29 PM »

This extended oil plug came to mind in a case like this, of course the dealers will say there isn't a need but....the end piece is a rare earth magnet, it gets up to where the oil is actually circulating, of course it will only capture ferrous material. Drag specialty part.

It'll help balance the chi of the bike too.  :D

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My bike has a chi? 

WTF is a chi and how can I tell if it's out of balance?   ???
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