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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2017, 09:28:20 AM »

 I am in the process of rebuilding my motor due to a grenading lifter after 33.5k miles, going 80 on the slab. I was planning to use the highlift Johnson b,2313 SE lifters. However, they have been on back order for five weeks already and now they are telling me it will be another four weeks. What is the best alternative ?

It sounds like the S&S premium lifters are popular.  I was also considering BGM lifters, the new ones with the bronze rollers that have no roller bearings. Thoughts?  How many miles should I expect to get out of either of those before needing to replace them?   Can you provide a link to the pats please. Thanks so much in advance. By the way, my short block, 117 Kit,  And capacity oil pan have arrived. I’ve been waiting for the darn lifters.
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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2017, 09:44:19 AM »

Not so sure about the Johnson's anymore.  I just had major work done to my motor and used the ~$65 a set Johnson's.  One of them was bad from the get-go.  Went with the $$S&S Premiums to replace them.

A helicopter has a "Jesus nut" that holds the rotors on top of the shaft...

Twin Cams have a Jesus nut too, we call them lifters.

If you want to use Johnson's, get them from AMS.   https://www.amsmotomachine.com/index.php/top-harley-parts
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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2017, 09:50:37 AM »

I stock them, the B2313-SE
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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #33 on: October 21, 2017, 10:22:48 AM »

I stock them, the B2313-SE

The AMS versions? 
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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2017, 10:40:17 AM »

I buy them from Topline
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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #35 on: October 21, 2017, 11:15:23 AM »

I buy them from Topline
Thanks for the quick responses.  After talking with several distributors of the b2313se and hearing about the mfg problems I lost some faith in them. I decided to put the coin down on the Jims Powerglide Steady roll 1827.  Expensive, but the reliability expectations are high (no needle bearings to fail) and I don’t want to get stranded far from home again.  >:(
They should be here on Wednesday so the build can finally begin.   8)
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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #36 on: October 21, 2017, 03:48:17 PM »

I have had no issues and know of nobody else that has either. I do not sell their lower end replacement lifter just the slow bleed version with axle oiling.
In fact the Jims have always been a product that has shown issues over the years.
I sincerley hope you don't have any issues with yours.
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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #37 on: October 24, 2017, 01:45:14 PM »

I have 2 sets of Jim's lifters. One set pulled out replaced with HD B's without miles. And one set I ran 1000 miles and replaced with HD B's again. All I can say is the Jim's lifters are way noisy compared. And I don't trust them I don't care how great Jim's says they are.
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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #38 on: October 24, 2017, 02:25:11 PM »

The last version of the SE lifter (SE version of the "B" lifter made in USA by Delphi) is as good as I've used.  I believe this is the same spec as the current S&S premium (without the travel limiter).
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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #39 on: October 24, 2017, 06:14:13 PM »

I have had no issues and know of nobody else that has either. I do not sell their lower end replacement lifter just the slow bleed version with axle oiling.
In fact the Jims have always been a product that has shown issues over the years.
I sincerley hope you don't have any issues with yours.
I agree with Don on the Jim's lifters. I've thrown out more sets than I can count from customer's bikes over the years.   ::)
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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #40 on: October 24, 2017, 11:25:39 PM »

The day after it goes out of warranty!


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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #41 on: October 24, 2017, 11:39:18 PM »

While on vaction, stopped at Outer Banks HD, wandered around with my eagle riders sweatshirt on. Guy at the parts counter / service desk asked it I had a CVO and what year. Told him 2012 and he says..."Something to keep an eye on with those 110's....."

I finished his sentence for him with one word. Lifters. He just smiled, pulled out some from 2 bikes they just changed out. Around 25k on both bikes. Said it took them a week to diagnose where the squealing was coming from. Lol.

Anyhow, stated the replace them with fueling brand now. Thought that was odd for a HD shop.

13k on mine. Putting in S&S premiums over the winter along with rocker lockers and inner cam bearing.
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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #42 on: October 24, 2017, 11:43:54 PM »

A week? If he new anything about 110's he would have checked lifters first thing.
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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #43 on: October 25, 2017, 02:35:25 AM »

I am just shy of hitting 5k on my breakout and when she goes in for the 5k service S&S lifters are going in.
Better safe than sorry. Just consider them a sacrificial part.
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Re: When to replace Lifters on 110.
« Reply #44 on: October 25, 2017, 08:53:16 AM »


It probably would have been a good idea if Harley had just abandoned hydraulic roller lifters for the 110's and went back to the good ol' days of flat solids.  Probably not much noisier than the "C" lifter internals they use with the stock lifters, and no roller to fail.  They could also add valve lash adjustments to the maintenance schedule to help the dealers pad their service department profits.

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