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[naitram]

rumor has it theres is no significant difference between the H9 and H11 HID lights.
at least thats what the vendor claims

(2:34:24 PM) naitram113: i have a question re: an order i just recieved
(2:34:33 PM) Xtra Lights: ok
(2:34:46 PM) naitram113: i ordered DBXH9-8K
(2:34:52 PM) Xtra Lights: ok
(2:35:04 PM) naitram113: outter box has H9 checked, but inner box is marked H11
(2:35:23 PM) naitram113: lights also labeled 8K H11
(2:35:45 PM) Xtra Lights: that's OK, that must be a mis-marked
(2:35:56 PM) Xtra Lights: don't worry about it, they will fit perfectly
(2:36:06 PM) Xtra Lights: let us know if they don't
(2:36:16 PM) naitram113: are the bulbs any different ( H9 v. H11 )?
(2:36:24 PM) Xtra Lights: Not much
(2:37:05 PM) Xtra Lights: they are almost identical
(2:37:25 PM) naitram113: ok, i'll assume that they will fit then
(2:37:39 PM) Xtra Lights: exactly
(2:37:42 PM) naitram113: thankyou
(2:37:46 PM) Xtra Lights: np

[djkak]

Those must be the folks that coined the phrase “close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades”.

djkak

[naitram]

back a few pages in this threadDon indicated that he had interchanged the H9 and H11 halogens and noone has been able to determine if there really is a difference between H9 and H11 HID

[Twolanerider]

back a few pages in this threadDon indicated that he had interchanged the H9 and H11 halogens and noone has been able to determine if there really is a difference between H9 and H11 HID

Their bulbs don't even have the lock tab on them that distinguishes the fitment capability of normal H9 an H11 bulbs.  If there's any difference it is minimal.  The different reflector areas make a huge impact on how they illuminate down the road of course.  But the difference ends up being in the optics, not the bulbs. 

Still love the bulbs.....

[naitram]

got the dual Halogen unit in today.

the low is an H11 and the high is an H8

[05Ultra]

got the dual Halogen unit in today.

the low is an H11 and the high is an H8

If you look at the locking tabs on both bulbs side by side you'll see theres little difference. A little snip on the H11 and it will fit in the high beam slot. Now you'll have a 55watt high beam. Still doesn't do much.
I can't wait till you guys find a replacement for the spots. I'm using Silverstar 55's which are better then the stockers but still too yellow.

[naitram]

looks plenty bright from that angle

[naitram]

doing a SERK write up

Dual HID SERK

[erniezap]

I've done some night riding with the HID and there is no comparison.  Will never have a stock headlight again.  That being said, a couple of comments/questions.

Is anyone other than me running the HID ho/low bulb with the stock SEEG headlight?  One thing that I notice is that both the headlight and the bulb have a deflector.  Installed "as is" it looks like only the top half of the headlight is lit even though I get a very good light pattern, etc.  I was thinking about removing the metal deflector from the bulb, leaving the one in place in the headlight, to see what it looks like.

Second question.  Is everyone running the 8000K bulb?  Again, while the light pattern and visibilty is great the light definitely throws a blue tint.  I'm thinking about changing it for the 6000K bulb, or even the 4300K bulb.  This will give me a whiter light and make matching the spots a little easier.  Thoughts?

[Twolanerider]

I've done some night riding with the HID and there is no comparison.  Will never have a stock headlight again.  That being said, a couple of comments/questions.

Is anyone other than me running the HID ho/low bulb with the stock SEEG headlight?  One thing that I notice is that both the headlight and the bulb have a deflector.  Installed "as is" it looks like only the top half of the headlight is lit even though I get a very good light pattern, etc.  I was thinking about removing the metal deflector from the bulb, leaving the one in place in the headlight, to see what it looks like.

Second question.  Is everyone running the 8000K bulb?  Again, while the light pattern and visibilty is great the light definitely throws a blue tint.  I'm thinking about changing it for the 6000K bulb, or even the 4300K bulb.  This will give me a whiter light and make matching the spots a little easier.  Thoughts?

Ernie, you saw the pics of mine to start this mess.  8000k same as yours.  I'd seen a couple of cages that had upgrade kits that were ostensibly 6000k and 8000k respectively.  So I know I liked the look of the 8000k better.

Granted, the 6000k will throw about 5% more light down the road.  But there's already such a tremendous and effective improvement I was pretty sure I wasn't going to be worried about that 5%.

Unfortunately either of them is going to make the spots look ugly harsh and yellow in comparison.  Those luminics 6000k bulbs are an option.  But their coating filtering out everything but the blue is going to make that low wattage bulb close to useless as an end product.

So far I've come to accept that with the good HIDs we're going to be pretty well hosed for anything that makes the spots look good in comparison.  Finally having really good headlights at night, however, is enough to make me not worry about it too much.  Maybe as part of next years spring spruce ups it'll get HID spotlights too.  Those little digital ignitors making doing it as least possible in terms of space and power consumption.  But man I like the light we've gained.

[erniezap]

Don, I totally agree.  Like I said, I'll never go back to halogen on the bike again...

[Twolanerider]

Don, I totally agree.  Like I said, I'll never go back to halogen on the bike again...

You think you're going to pull that extra deflector out of there?  Were I in the same boat I'm pretty sure I would.  It and the bulb's own hardware seem obviously redundant.

[naitram]

High beam HID.  That's new  .

don i cant tell form this picture, are both bulbs on in this pic?

[Twolanerider]

don i cant tell form this picture, are both bulbs on in this pic?

Neal, if you're asking if I set it up so that high and low beams are on at the same time the answer is no.  Would've been easy enough to do.  But I was guessing it wouldn't be necessary.  Also didn't want the power draw unless it later proved to be necessary.  It's worked out such a nice wide spotlight set in conjuction with the HID light is damned effective.  I did go ahead and change it to allow spots on with either high or low beam.  High beam long reaching HID combined with the wide arc of the spots is good light.  The low beam HID shoots so wide and well that it actually competes with the spots for side coverage.

[naitram]

ok, i was curious. i originally wired simillar to your setup ( based on your write up ) but then decided to use the dual halogen pig-tail since it had the relay that fired the low when the hi was on. didnt want to lose the wide field of low beam when hittting the hi beam.