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Re: New Top End -- Power Coat and Diamond Cut -- for Old Road Glide
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2020, 12:52:33 AM »

Very nice!   :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: New Top End -- Power Coat and Diamond Cut -- for Old Road Glide
« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2020, 09:46:57 AM »

Fantastic, Don! :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: New Top End -- Power Coat and Diamond Cut -- for Old Road Glide
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2020, 10:04:54 AM »

The Travel Gods have not been impressed with the engine work.  Since just a couple days after it was done; rain.  Then more rain.  Today?  Rain.  Next two or three days?  More rain.  Urg.
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Re: New Top End -- Power Coat and Diamond Cut -- for Old Road Glide
« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2020, 10:28:57 AM »

looks good
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Re: New Top End -- Power Coat and Diamond Cut -- for Old Road Glide
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2020, 10:40:53 AM »

looks good


Thanks Neal.  Was fun to tinker with it some too.  That bike has been dialed in so long it doesn't always get a lot attention anymore other than just using it.
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Re: New Top End -- Power Coat and Diamond Cut -- for Old Road Glide
« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2020, 12:29:20 PM »

Looks awesome and bet runs awesome as well.

As always you do nice work.
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Re: New Top End -- Power Coat and Diamond Cut -- for Old Road Glide
« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2020, 10:54:50 PM »

Got an excuse to post more.  Chatting with a site member on the phone while driving home this afternoon what the new Supermeg sounds like.  So did a video.

There's some "full disclosure" on this pipe though:

It didn't mount seamlessly.  Had to space the mount bracket on the side of the transmission out about .375" to get the pipe to clear the transmission.  Even then it was close enough I worked the inside of the upper pipe with a blunt cold chisel another 1/16" or so the full width of the tranny side cover just to be satisfied. And, yes, I dressed the metal nicely.  It looks fine now.

In the rear where it hangs the muffler does not have threaded mounts welded on.  Just square nuts in what seems to me a too flimsy cage.  Loosening those sometime could see the square nuts spinning the housing and then you'd be pissed off.  Took that same cold chisel and narrowed the cage around the square nuts some before install on mine.  I really didn't like how it was out of the box.

Having said that; it's a good look pipe if you like 2-1 on a bagger.  I was so tired of the 10+ year old FatCats.  So freaking loud.  These are better. 

I've run them at 10 disc, 12 disc, and 14 disc with an open end cap.  12 seemed best.  Still moderately loud that way.  Not as loud as the FatCat but wanted to try an alternative.  So tried all 20 discs that come with the pipe and a closed end cap.  12 open and 20 closed seemed to run about the same.  Going to try this for awhile.  It is quieter too.  Not like modern bike built for EPA quiet.  But much quieter than the old FatCats were.  This is with 20 discs and the closed end cap.  You can't tell in the video but the garage door is open.


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Re: New Top End -- Power Coat and Diamond Cut -- for Old Road Glide
« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2020, 12:11:13 PM »

Nice Don,
You inspired me to do similar work on my 2003-103. I got rid of, dumped, or gave away the 2015 - 110 wet head! Lost more money than the bike was ever worth. I am sure I got a lemon cause if they were all like mine HD would be in financial trouble. Oh - I forgot they are!
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Re: New Top End -- Power Coat and Diamond Cut -- for Old Road Glide
« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2020, 02:40:14 PM »

Nice Don,
You inspired me to do similar work on my 2003-103. I got rid of, dumped, or gave away the 2015 - 110 wet head! Lost more money than the bike was ever worth. I am sure I got a lemon cause if they were all like mine HD would be in financial trouble. Oh - I forgot they are!
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I have REALLY wanted to see one of those done with the cylinders and heads done in a deep metallic gold powder coat to match the bike.  Never saw one but have thought for years that, with the edges diamond cut, that would be a gorgeous bike.  The heads and cylinders that way, framed by the gold bike frame, and surrounded by chrome rockers and silver motor top and bottom; it makes my special places tingle just thinking about it.  That's an image that's been in my head for a long long time.  Plus that 103 engine is still one of the best engines Harley ever made.  It's worth putting some effort in.

The 103 that was in my 05 made great power after its build.  It was a beast for its CI.  So they can be made to sing if you want to.  If you decide to dig in to it let me know.  I've got some spare cylinders and heads you could use as cores to send off for powder coating and the other work to have pieces ready ahead of time before tearing yours down.
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Re: New Top End -- Power Coat and Diamond Cut -- for Old Road Glide
« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2020, 02:48:26 PM »

Rode the Road Glide more this morning.  Couple hours.  It's finding its stride now.  Sounds REALLY good.  I'm sold on the closed end cap on the exhaust.  Can hear the engine, can hear the radio, and it's still got a rumble if you twist the throttle. 

And the engine sounds nice.  Going from gear drive to new hybrid cam plate and the newer style tensioners changed the engine note.  That was expected.  The roller rockers that went in with this work make for a slightly different sound too.  But this thing just hums right now when its on the cam and cruising.  Harley is never going to "sound like a sewing machine."  But this thing right now is really really smooth. 

It's got a engine management/tuning kit installed from Revolution Performance called EMS.  I've noticed the system dialing itself in over the first few miles. Over the first few minutes at idle and the first ten miles riding it took big swings.  You could hear the changes sometimes.  After that whatever is happening is more subtle.  Whatever black arts are at work the engine has gotten to a place where it sound good, feels good and even smells good.  All the tell tales seem right.

The bike was absolutely fine before doing all the work.  No issues, no concerns, no worries, no leaks, and it had been absolutely reliable for years.  So for its 20th birthday of course I messed with it. At this point I'm quite pleased I did.  The bike seems to be as well.
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Re: New Top End -- Power Coat and Diamond Cut -- for Old Road Glide
« Reply #25 on: May 27, 2020, 05:49:39 PM »

Just thought of something that should have mentioned on the Supertrap exhaust.  Though I had my issues with it there is something that is really nice. 

The Fatcats that I ran on two bikes and liked for many years would burn your leg if you weren't careful.  I don't think it would be possible to burn yourself while in the saddle with this pipe.  The routing is just great.  It's nice not to have to always remember to be just a little bowlegged to avoid touching a hot pipe.
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Re: New Top End -- Power Coat and Diamond Cut -- for Old Road Glide
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2020, 09:32:56 PM »

That's a beautiful ride Don. Thinking you will be enjoying that new setup
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« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2020, 09:40:48 PM »

That's a beautiful ride Don. Thinking you will be enjoying that new setup

So far really am.  It's smooth.  Sounds and feels good.  Only a couple of tank fulls of mileage on it yet.  And nothing yet to really take it out and play with it.  Got enough miles on it now though that can happen anytime.  I'm actually really curious to see how its going to feel pulling the trailer.
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Re: New Top End -- Power Coat and Diamond Cut -- for Old Road Glide
« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2020, 09:47:52 PM »

Tell me about the EMS tuner, does it replace the original M&M system? Is there a link to it?
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Re: New Top End -- Power Coat and Diamond Cut -- for Old Road Glide
« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2020, 10:08:44 PM »

Sounds great. Any issues with the bike in general? I’m looking at buy 2000 serg myself. Thanks
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