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110 lifter failure, recommendations on RELIABLE build
« on: July 26, 2020, 09:44:21 PM »

The 110 has given it up after a measly 32k. Since it's got to come apart I want it put back together in a configuration that I don't want to have to worry about for about 60,000 miles at least. Can I get some recommendations on a good build that's reliable and makes good power and torque. I am thinking 117 build. What's opinions on gear drive cams, head work, etc...? The majority of the miles are highway at 80+. I also pull a trailer some times, so torque is important. I am rarely over 4k RPM so I don't need horsepower at super high rpm. It's a Road Glide Ultra so it's a heavy bike. It's a wet head so I know that creates some limitations.
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Re: 110 lifter failure, recommendations on RELIABLE build
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2020, 11:51:32 PM »

I went with screamin eagle 117 kit with the redshift 587. Made sure the foundation was s&s flywheel. Lots of torque.
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Re: 110 lifter failure, recommendations on RELIABLE build
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2020, 11:25:31 AM »

Out of curiosity, which is the cause of the failure the lifter or cam?


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Re: 110 lifter failure, recommendations on RELIABLE build
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2020, 12:17:00 PM »

Haven't taken apart yet. It's above my abilities, so it will be going to S&S Speed Shop in metro East STL for the work. It's still running, just making a hell of a racket, so I hope it's not come completely apart and sent metal through the entire engine.
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Re: 110 lifter failure, recommendations on RELIABLE build
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2020, 12:20:36 PM »

Out of curiosity, which is the cause of the failure the lifter or cam?

Generally the roller of the lifter fails.
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Re: 110 lifter failure, recommendations on RELIABLE build
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2020, 12:29:00 PM »

My answer will be contrary to most but based on personal experience. You pull a trailer that changes things, long life will come from a valve train with relieved pressure/ loads, lower heat (compression & cylinder pressure down), and excellent ring seal.  What does it take to go there? A 113 from stock cylinders bored +.060. A cam with mild ramps and added exhaust duration. If 117 is on the plate, ok this is a full engine job, bored cases not the drop-in kits. Remember you said 60k reliable miles, that is where I am going. Compression on the conservative side. Heads need new guides and a good valve job plus dual springs that are lighter than stock. High quality lifters. Crank needs to be reworked at minimum,  an S&S crank, better. Use head fans to cool the engine.  Add a higher capacity clutch. Use the latest rev compensator.  Have a proper tune done. Consider a smaller front pulley to lower gearing.
The whole gamut of things the internet says that are needed, many are not and just oem parts will be fine. Lifters are a maintenance item still, 30k miles and gives a look at the cam chest then.
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Re: 110 lifter failure, recommendations on RELIABLE build
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2020, 06:56:34 PM »

I hate to say but we've all been warned. I just did a complete build while I was thinking about lifters.  Crank too had to be replaced.  Good luck however you decide to go.  Stuart.
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Re: 110 lifter failure, recommendations on RELIABLE build
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2020, 11:37:49 AM »

If one wanted to replace the lifters before a failure occurred what’s a good lifter to use with the stock cam and pushrods?


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Re: 110 lifter failure, recommendations on RELIABLE build
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2020, 11:52:32 AM »

S&S which are basically the (now superseded) OE "B" lifters.
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Re: 110 lifter failure, recommendations on RELIABLE build
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2020, 01:45:38 PM »

I have quality slow bleed lifters made in America,  $130 shipped
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Re: 110 lifter failure, recommendations on RELIABLE build
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2020, 09:18:42 AM »

HD Street Performance, do you consider your replacement lifter the same quality as S&S? Who manufactures them?
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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2020, 02:54:17 PM »

The quality is equal. I would prefer not to reveal the source, they are made for us and I buy them manufacturer direct.
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Re: 110 lifter failure, recommendations on RELIABLE build
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2020, 08:52:32 AM »

The quality is equal. I would prefer not to reveal the source, they are made for us and I buy them manufacturer direct.

So what’s the best way to order the lifters from you? How much do they cost? Thanks
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Re: 110 lifter failure, recommendations on RELIABLE build
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2020, 09:15:13 AM »

I will pm you
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Re: 110 lifter failure, recommendations on RELIABLE build
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2020, 12:12:56 PM »

I have quality slow bleed lifters made in America,  $130 shipped
Do your lifters have an oil hole that feeds the roller?


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