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Re: Check Engine & Temp Light on
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2020, 03:02:37 PM »

Did you put a new map or tune when you changed the cam?


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Yes have a nap in there. Been running fine without any lights coming on till dealer changed out the rocker box cover on rear cylinder.  Trying to get it somewhere to get it tuned. Everyone that uses the TTS tuner is over 4 hours away.
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Re: Check Engine & Temp Light on
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2020, 08:51:46 PM »

Well crap. Went for a little ride to see if the check engine & temp lights would come back on. Well after about 16 miles both lights came on again. I pulled over and pulled the cover off the side where coolant tank is & the level was at the cold mark. Sat there and called the dealer back and told them the lights came back on after riding for 16 miles. Of course  they said they would have to diagnose it again to see what codes were. I checked the codes and both the ECM & BCM said P1019. When I stopped I checked to see if the fans were on on coolant tank side I didn't feel any air blowing out of it. So I rode back home & the temp light came back on about 15 miles again. The check engine light never went off. When I got back home and shut it down the fans were blowing cool air out of the vent on coolant tank side. At this point I know there going to say they can't find anything wrong with it again when I take it to them..I may just take to another dealer in town now..

I was also planning to take bike to GMR in Dallas Friday for Steve to tune it since know one in may area can use a TTS tuner. This all started after I got bike from dealer to change the rocker box cover out. Don't know if anything they did would cause these issues.. But its getting frustrating for sure...
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Re: Check Engine & Temp Light on
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2020, 10:46:29 PM »

Did they purge the system after having it open? 
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Re: Check Engine & Temp Light on
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2020, 10:46:48 PM »

If you're dealership is anything like the one here. You are better off going to an independent repair shop.
Everytime I go to our local dealership there is a whole new crew.
The owners son isn't even there anymore,  he's selling cars or boats or what ever at a different location.
Our local dealership always says they  see nothing wrong or they all do that.
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Re: Check Engine & Temp Light on
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2020, 10:53:49 PM »

If after a long ride and you get cool air from the fans it must not be circulating.
Either a air blockage or no circulation whether a water pump or a stuck open thermostat.
Did they unplug the water pump?
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Re: Check Engine & Temp Light on
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2020, 05:57:10 AM »

Sounds like an air pocket in the cooling system.   They should use a vacuum coolant system filler to get all of the air out.  With all of the pipes and hoses on the bike it can be very difficult to get air out of everything without it.   It can be done without a vacuum filler but takes a long time to burp it all out and I doubt they spent the time to do it right.

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Re: Check Engine & Temp Light on
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2020, 09:10:39 AM »

Well crap. Went for a little ride to see if the check engine & temp lights would come back on. Well after about 16 miles both lights came on again. I pulled over and pulled the cover off the side where coolant tank is & the level was at the cold mark. Sat there and called the dealer back and told them the lights came back on after riding for 16 miles. Of course  they said they would have to diagnose it again to see what codes were. I checked the codes and both the ECM & BCM said P1019. When I stopped I checked to see if the fans were on on coolant tank side I didn't feel any air blowing out of it. So I rode back home & the temp light came back on about 15 miles again. The check engine light never went off. When I got back home and shut it down the fans were blowing cool air out of the vent on coolant tank side. At this point I know there going to say they can't find anything wrong with it again when I take it to them..I may just take to another dealer in town now..

I was also planning to take bike to GMR in Dallas Friday for Steve to tune it since know one in may area can use a TTS tuner. This all started after I got bike from dealer to change the rocker box cover out. Don't know if anything they did would cause these issues.. But its getting frustrating for sure...

If you have a TTS map installed, the fan operation is changed from stock.  With TTS, one fan comes on at a certain temperature, if the temp increases to a second trigger temperature both fans turn on.  That doesn't affect how the fan and pump test works, just how they work in normal operation.

I have to go back to my first comment in this thread, you had no problem when you took the bike to the shop and you had this problem show up immediately on the ride home from the shop.  The odds are heavily in favor of the shop screwing something up, such as not purging the air properly OR disconnecting or damaging wiring to the pump and/or ETC sensor.

Your various descriptions sound like you aren't getting consistent flow of coolant, thus the cool air from the fan after a ride.  Before wasting time and money on the clueless folks at the dealership, you need to verify if the pump is actually circulating coolant.  You can't always tell just by touching the pump (remove the cover) during the fan test, some pumps have had impeller failures but still ran, others have had other weird failures but still felt like they were running. 

The vast majority of the cases I've read with the P1019 code, once the dealers learned how to purge the air from the system, have been resolved either with a new pump, or a replacement of the ECT sensor which has also had less than stellar reliability. 

Take a look at the attached pdf for basic diagnostics.

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Re: Check Engine & Temp Light on
« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2020, 09:45:15 AM »

I had similar problem on my 2015 while on trips. Solved it initially by replacing the fuse for the cooling system. The second time, I had the old style water pump replaced under ESP (the last week of coverage as a matter of fact). No problems since.
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Re: Check Engine & Temp Light on
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2020, 12:03:56 PM »

I'm taking to a different dealership than one i went to originally. I spoke with them & they seem to think its either the coolant pump or a thermostat not opening. Did say haven't seen many coolant pump failures thou.. Guess will see what they find.
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Re: Check Engine & Temp Light on
« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2020, 05:59:21 PM »

Dealer called and said rode bike and lights came on. Diagnosed to being the ETS. And of course the part is not in stock.  Trying to find part at another dealer. I called the first dealer. 
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Re: Check Engine & Temp Light on
« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2020, 08:01:50 PM »

Dealer called and said bike was all done. Put 75 miles on it to make sure was all good. Said that there was a huge air pocket in the system and probably was the cause of the sensor to burn up. Said there was no fluid on left side of radiator due to air pocket.  I told them to document it all on the ticket & I'm going back to dealer that did the rocker box job & let them know they more than likely caused this problem. I probably know they really don't give a crap either way. I talked to SM at other dealer other day about this & he acted like oh well glad other dealer got it diagnosed...SM said his tech spent a lot of time on it and didn't find anything wrong.. Guess all they did was reset the code & got bike up to temp on lift and called it good...
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