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After market speakers that work with stock head unit
« on: May 08, 2021, 04:33:22 PM »

Are there better sounding speakers you can replace that work with the HD radio & amp. Bike is a 2018 CVO Limited... If so what brands..
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Re: After market speakers that work with stock head unit
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2021, 06:14:00 PM »

Try sinister sound.
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Re: After market speakers that work with stock head unit
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2021, 11:53:29 AM »

Are there better sounding speakers you can replace that work with the HD radio & amp. Bike is a 2018 CVO Limited... If so what brands..

I upgraded to J&M. You really should use a 2 Ohm speaker since amp is 2 ohm, choices are limited for 2 ohm speakers. Are J&M high fidelity? No. Do they sound a LOT better than Boom! junk? Absolutely. Was I willing to spend $$$$ on a stereo system that sounds the same at 80 MPH than one that costs $$? Nope. I can hear mine crystal clear at 80 and phonics are out the window (figuratively) on  a bike and at speed. Just my 2 cents.
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Re: After market speakers that work with stock head unit
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2021, 08:23:41 AM »

I’m going with the Sinister sound system. Replacing amp and speakers.
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Re: After market speakers that work with stock head unit
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2021, 12:34:36 PM »

I upgraded to J&M. You really should use a 2 Ohm speaker since amp is 2 ohm, choices are limited for 2 ohm speakers. Are J&M high fidelity? No. Do they sound a LOT better than Boom! junk? Absolutely. Was I willing to spend $$$$ on a stereo system that sounds the same at 80 MPH than one that costs $$? Nope. I can hear mine crystal clear at 80 and phonics are out the window (figuratively) on  a bike and at speed. Just my 2 cents.


Which JM speakers did u end up using.
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Re: After market speakers that work with stock head unit
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2021, 06:19:30 PM »

I just picked up my bike tonight after having Sinister Sound fairing speakers installed. I kept the stock amp and did not have the bike flashed for an EQ update. It sounds absolutely fantastic. They are 2 ohms so other than a few modifications that aren't real difficult, they wire right to the stock system. That was a big draw for me. I had been asking about 2 ohm options for saddlebag speakers and now have no desire to upgrade those. These fairing speakers are now plenty for the higher speeds and windy days without the high end feeling like it's going to rip your face off. They have a fairing system that is meant to use with the BOOM systems.

Mine was for a 2020 Road Glide, but they make the same one for batwing fairings.

https://www.sinistersound.net/shop/SinisterSound-Product-Catalog/14UP-Street-GlideUltra-Products/p/14-up-2ohm-Sinister-Sound-Street-Glide-Fairing-speaker-system-for-use-with-a-BOOM-AUDIO-AMP-x49625917.htm

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I’m going with the Sinister sound system. Replacing amp and speakers.

Didn't see you had posted this. I think you will be pleased!

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Re: After market speakers that work with stock head unit
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2021, 10:03:34 PM »

I just picked up my bike tonight after having Sinister Sound fairing speakers installed. I kept the stock amp and did not have the bike flashed for an EQ update. It sounds absolutely fantastic. They are 2 ohms so other than a few modifications that aren't real difficult, they wire right to the stock system. That was a big draw for me. I had been asking about 2 ohm options for saddlebag speakers and now have no desire to upgrade those. These fairing speakers are now plenty for the higher speeds and windy days without the high end feeling like it's going to rip your face off. They have a fairing system that is meant to use with the BOOM systems.

Mine was for a 202 Road Glide, but they make the same one for batwing fairings.

https://www.sinistersound.net/shop/SinisterSound-Product-Catalog/14UP-Street-GlideUltra-Products/p/14-up-2ohm-Sinister-Sound-Street-Glide-Fairing-speaker-system-for-use-with-a-BOOM-AUDIO-AMP-x49625917.htm


Do they get loud & clear with volume up...?
Yes I ordered the full system from a dealer in Houston,Tx area and they were going to install also. But after thinking about it I decided against it for now so I'm canceling the order.. I may just do the speakers instead from Sinister...


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Didn't see you had posted this. I think you will be pleased!
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Re: After market speakers that work with stock head unit
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2021, 07:03:22 AM »


Which JM speakers did u end up using.

The Rokker 3  ways with tweeter pods in grill
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Re: After market speakers that work with stock head unit
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2021, 08:09:20 AM »


J&M is Junk! (JMHO, Sorry) If you want the newest "In Thing" speaker with the audio pros. I suggest the Ground
Zero "Yellow Basket" speakers.
Build your own as J&M and any other company speaker/amp kit pretty much suck.


Bonus: building your own, if done right will be less expensive and definitely sound much better!


MMats PA601 speakers and Hertz CX165 speaker along w/ a Stringer Amp is what I run. You can get the amp of choice but beware
some amps will cause some FM interference.


YB
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Re: After market speakers that work with stock head unit
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2021, 02:11:07 PM »

Newseultra07, The main things I noticed:

1. The kick drum actually sounds like a kick drum and not a fart anymore. At higher volumes the bass doesn't flub out.

2. Also at higher volumes the treble doesn't feel like it's going to melt your face off.

3. There is more separation in the instruments if that makes sense. At higher volumes it doesn't get muddy. During a busy drum riff for instance you can hear the separate drums and it doesn't drown out the guitar.


Overall, yet again at higher volumes, the front speakers now have no distortion and don't sound like they are struggling. Will you be like "OH MY GOD" the second you turn on your stereo? No. Will you be like "ah this is better" when you take off for the first time? Yep.
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Re: After market speakers that work with stock head unit
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2021, 04:04:53 PM »

Newseultra07, The main things I noticed:

1. The kick drum actually sounds like a kick drum and not a fart anymore. At higher volumes the bass doesn't flub out.

2. Also at higher volumes the treble doesn't feel like it's going to melt your face off.

3. There is more separation in the instruments if that makes sense. At higher volumes it doesn't get muddy. During a busy drum riff for instance you can hear the separate drums and it doesn't drown out the guitar.


Overall, yet again at higher volumes, the front speakers now have no distortion and don't sound like they are struggling. Will you be like "OH MY GOD" the second you turn on your stereo? No. Will you be like "ah this is better" when you take off for the first time? Yep.

I'm going to just do the speaker upgrade for now & see how It is with the Boom amp, can always add amp later on if needed..Glad you like it..Wont be getting mine for couple weeks.
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Re: After market speakers that work with stock head unit
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2021, 07:18:39 PM »

I'm also interested in upgraded speakers for my 18 CVO RG that has factory Boom II speakers and amps. The speakers are less than stellar by far and I'm sure one day they will need replacing but I'd like to keep all 3 of the amps. Yes I added speakers to the lowers I installed as well and upgraded to the GTS head unit last year so I now have a similar set up to the 2019 CVO SG. Best factory system Harley has ever come up with IMO.

So Scott7d, you have the 2 Boom II amps and 4 Boom II speakers on your 20 CVO RG and you replaced just the fairing speakers and you are happy with the upgrade to the sinister speakers correct? I couldn't find the RG setup on their website.

newseultra07 I believe you have an Ultra which does not come with Boom II but Boom I? So a totally different system other than the head unit I think? While not apples and apples I still understand where you're coming from.

So maybe some of the better informed folks out there could explain why we couldn't take both sets of speaker leads per speaker with the Boom II setup and splice together the pos. to pos. and the neg. to the neg. that go the bi-amped? factory system to get ALL the power from the Boom II amps into a really good quality replacement speaker?? Someone has to be able to figure out a way to build a better mouse trap.  :nixweiss:

And thanks Scott for getting the ball rolling on this and the thorough description of what you have accomplished.

Please don't laugh to hard at my ignorance on this subject but hopefully someone in the know can take a minute and shed some light for the rest of us.

TIA
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Re: After market speakers that work with stock head unit
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2021, 08:16:28 PM »

I'm also interested in upgraded speakers for my 18 CVO RG that has factory Boom II speakers and amps. The speakers are less than stellar by far and I'm sure one day they will need replacing but I'd like to keep all 3 of the amps. Yes I added speakers to the lowers I installed as well and upgraded to the GTS head unit last year so I now have a similar set up to the 2019 CVO SG. Best factory system Harley has ever come up with IMO.

So Scott7d, you have the 2 Boom II amps and 4 Boom II speakers on your 20 CVO RG and you replaced just the fairing speakers and you are happy with the upgrade to the sinister speakers correct? I couldn't find the RG setup on their website.

newseultra07 I believe you have an Ultra which does not come with Boom II but Boom I? So a totally different system other than the head unit I think? While not apples and apples I still understand where you're coming from.

So maybe some of the better informed folks out there could explain why we couldn't take both sets of speaker leads per speaker with the Boom II setup and splice together the pos. to pos. and the neg. to the neg. that go the bi-amped? factory system to get ALL the power from the Boom II amps into a really good quality replacement speaker?? Someone has to be able to figure out a way to build a better mouse trap.
  :nixweiss:

And thanks Scott for getting the ball rolling on this and the thorough description of what you have accomplished.

Please don't laugh to hard at my ignorance on this subject but hopefully someone in the know can take a minute and shed some light for the rest of us.

TIA

Believe it or not, I emailed Sinister this exact question a few hours ago. I'll post up the reply once I get one back but I don't expect it over the weekend. I found the speaker kits on their site. It has a crossover built in. I asked them if we could bypass their crossover and use the leads from the HD amp as on the B2 system, it's my understanding that the amp is programmed as a crossover. I could be wrong though but it'd be the first time that's happened in the last 20 minutes. :confused5:
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Re: After market speakers that work with stock head unit
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2021, 08:35:50 PM »

I'm also interested in upgraded speakers for my 18 CVO RG that has factory Boom II speakers and amps. The speakers are less than stellar by far and I'm sure one day they will need replacing but I'd like to keep all 3 of the amps. Yes I added speakers to the lowers I installed as well and upgraded to the GTS head unit last year so I now have a similar set up to the 2019 CVO SG. Best factory system Harley has ever come up with IMO.

So Scott7d, you have the 2 Boom II amps and 4 Boom II speakers on your 20 CVO RG and you replaced just the fairing speakers and you are happy with the upgrade to the sinister speakers correct? I couldn't find the RG setup on their website.

newseultra07 I believe you have an Ultra which does not come with Boom II but Boom I? So a totally different system other than the head unit I think? While not apples and apples I still understand where you're coming from.





So maybe some of the better informed folks out there could explain why we couldn't take both sets of speaker leads per speaker with the Boom II setup and splice together the pos. to pos. and the neg. to the neg. that go the bi-amped? factory system to get ALL the power from the Boom II amps into a really good quality replacement speaker?? Someone has to be able to figure out a way to build a better mouse trap.  :nixweiss:

And thanks Scott for getting the ball rolling on this and the thorough description of what you have accomplished.

Please don't laugh to hard at my ignorance on this subject but hopefully someone in the know can take a minute and shed some light for the rest of us.

TIA

My bike is a 2018 CVO Anniversary so should have the Boom 2 or not, hell I don't really know..
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Re: After market speakers that work with stock head unit
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2021, 06:23:10 AM »

My bike is a 2018 CVO Anniversary so should have the Boom 2 or not, hell I don't really know..
No sir it does not. Only has the Boom 1. The ultras do not come with the Boom2. All the other bikes do.
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