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[rayson56]

Any news as far as when and where the new 2022 HD models are to be released?


TIA

[Twolanerider]

CVO Servicar !!

[spence]

January according to my local dealership.

[Finster101]

I haven't been able to catch up with him yet.

[OBB]

I haven't been able to catch up with him yet.

You win the internet for today

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[Twolanerider]

Pool boy is a dick.

[Yellow09SERG]

And lies

[Joel]

And yet we still look for his never ending knowledge on everything Harley related.

[MIKEYTEE]

When I talked to The Pool Boy on Tuesday, he said the powers to be and that are have been very-very Hush-Hush on the new/old  2022 models. He did say that all but one type will have 2 wheels, 1 engine, a seat, handlebars with controls, headlight, tail light, turn signals, speedometer, and exhaust pipes. The other type has 3 wheels and all the above. All will be available in various colors and options. It may be March before they are in your dealers showrooms! No pricing has been decided on as of this printing. GOOD LUCK!

Mike

 

[iski]

^What Mike said. 

Also, the pictures of the new bikes will not look anywhere near as good as the 2022 bikes when you see them in person. 

The new CVO colors will be judged the most harshly, because everyone knows that their pre-2022 CVO is the best color combo Harley ever made & the new ones blow chunks. 

[dayne66]

^What Mike said. 



The new CVO colors will be judged the most harshly, because everyone knows that their pre-2022 CVO is the best color combo Harley ever made & the new ones blow chunks. 

I have not REALLY liked any colors since the '12 FLHXSE3 in Ruby/Typhoon. Traded it because of ongoing reliability issues due to dealer fingers.....I didn't buy it to just look pretty.....I bought it to ride!

[iski]

I have not REALLY liked any colors since the '12 FLHXSE3 in Ruby/Typhoon. Traded it because of ongoing reliability issues due to dealer fingers.....I didn't buy it to just look pretty.....I bought it to ride!

Some of the older CVO paint sets were better. Unique. The last few years have not noticed anything that looked as special.  Some of the newer CVO paint is not unique, it looks like HD cheaped out.  But the price on the bikes didn't follow suit.  After the last few years would not take a lot for the 2022 CVO paint to be considered a huge improvement.  Would not bet a nickel on that happening.

[dayne66]

Some of the older CVO paint sets were better. Unique. The last few years have not noticed anything that looked as special.  Some of the newer CVO paint is not unique, it looks like HD cheaped out.  But the price on the bikes didn't follow suit.  After the last few years would not take a lot for the 2022 CVO paint to be considered a huge improvement.  Would not bet a nickel on that happening.

And....today i am riding a NON CVO RG Limited in Midnight Blue......for almost $20g less in Canada....and coincidentally ...I'm happy!

[iski]

And....today i am riding a NON CVO RG Limited in Midnight Blue......for almost $20g less in Canada....and coincidentally ...I'm happy!

And that is all that matters.  Like what we ride & ride what we like.

[Mano]

I haven't been able to catch up with him yet.

This pool boy must be walking around with cane by now. 

[Joel]

Walking with a cane, is it because everyone keeps kicking him in the shines for leading us on about great changes coming to the H-D line up?

[mjb765]

And....today i am riding a NON CVO RG Limited in Midnight Blue......for almost $20g less in Canada....and coincidentally ...I'm happy!

I am also riding a NON CVO RG...it's a 2020 Limited in Zephyr Blue....looks better than the CVO's did this year. Still have my '15 CVO SG...but the Roadglide bug bit me bad.....might want to try to find a '19 Mako Shark. That paint scheme is the most recent that I really like.

[1badbagger]

I am also riding a NON CVO RG...it's a 2020 Limited in Zephyr Blue....looks better than the CVO's did this year. Still have my '15 CVO SG...but the Roadglide bug bit me bad.....might want to try to find a '19 Mako Shark. That paint scheme is the most recent that I really like.

All of the 2019 CVO Roadglide paint schemes are badass in my opinion and they seem to hold their value because of it

[mjb765]

All of the 2019 CVO Roadglide paint schemes are badass in my opinion and they seem to hold their value because of it

I like the 2019 CVO Roadglide Mako Shark fade....but my 2020 Limited is pretty nice also...it's kind of hard to see the graphics in the pic though

[ultra13]

I concur. The CVOs in my opinion for the last couple of years have not made the cut. Blacked out and dull paint just not appealing to me. Not digging on people that own them, if you like it buy it.
As far as RG CVOs go.....You can't beat the 09' eagle head! Now that is a good lookin bike.

[ZVO]

Any rumors or news when the 22 Line Up will be announced. I did not like any of the 21s.
I hate they shrunk the bags, they spoke’d the rims.

[FLSTFI Dave]

Any rumors or news when the 22 Line Up will be announced. I did not like any of the 21s.
I hate they shrunk the bags, they spoke’d the rims.

Only shrunk the bags on the Black CVO Road glide, all the others are the same as previous years

January or February for the 2022 bikes

[spook120]

Now that I have the 2021 CVO SG in the garage, any more rumors for 2022.  It's got 4 miles on it...time to trade!!!

[Pan1]

Any Rummors

[laylonlor]

I here at my stealer a 124 is coming with reverse

[newseultra07]

All HD bikes will have to be ordered just like the trucks are now. No more bikes sitting on showroom floors. And dealers will be charging 5k to 10k over for all bikes...

[OBB]

I here at my stealer a 124 is coming with reverse

I want what They're smoking.

[tlr]

Hi all,

In the past years someone usually starts a thread talking about rumors or wishes and hopes for the new model year. With the announcements coming out soon, January 26th, I thought I would ask what has been heard. I have a deposit at my dealer for a CVO RG, hoping that they come out with one and secondly that I like the colors and schemes. Thoughts on what may happen??

Ted

[rayson56]

I started this one several months back...

https://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=123320.msg1529807#msg1529807

[hogsty]

The dealers are full of crap

Don't they have to order them in specific colors and models?  Somebody at the dealer knows what's coming.



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[Fired00d]

The dealers are full of crap

Don't they have to order them in specific colors and models?  Somebody at the dealer knows what's coming.



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The colors are available to dealers (except CVO's) already so they can order specific colors they want.

 
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[Fired00d]

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[hogsty]

So then the models are available to dealers as well, which is my point.  They have a chart showing which colors are available on which models.

So they know what's coming and what's going

[Fired00d]

So then the models are available to dealers as well, which is my point.  They have a chart showing which colors are available on which models.

So they know what's coming and what's going

That's always been the case prior to them arriving (other than the CVO's).

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[OBB]

So then the models are available to dealers as well, which is my point.  They have a chart showing which colors are available on which models.

So they know what's coming and what's going

Next year's non CVO bike colors have been published for over a month now. I've never seen CVO colors announced before the meeting.

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[FLSTFI Dave]

Next year's non CVO bike colors have been published for over a month now. I've never seen CVO colors announced before the meeting.

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Once in a while the CVO colors get leaked or one of the colors gets leaked, but thats not often.

[BigLew55]

So then the models are available to dealers as well, which is my point.  They have a chart showing which colors are available on which models.

So they know what's coming and what's going

They only have a chart for the models that will be consistent from one year to the next (in this case, where 2022 models will be consistent with 2021 offerings).  For new models, the factory sends them a set number in the colors that the factory chooses for the first ordering period.  The dealer has little or no say in these units until they place an order after the dealer show.

Yes, they have been given a list of models that are no longer going to be offered well in advance.  I don't know them off the top of my head, but I think there are about 3.

[kojak]

They are receiving the bikes from Harley probably next week.

[StreetDog]

 Anybody heard anything about the new 2022's yet? Sure wish they would come out with a new Brandywine  with Candy Red flames  cvo RoadKing again. I would have to jump on that one.

[rayson56]

https://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=123828.0;topicseen

[OBB]

Stolen off the web....



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[FLSTFI Dave]

Stolen off the web....



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Not impressed.  At least the fork legs are chrome.  Love the black but if you ride it sucks as it looks like crap in 10K miles.

[Mofo67]

Stolen off the web....



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Thanks for posting… I know orange is a popular color with HD and many of their customers but I was really hoping for something different. Please share any additional colors you find.

[acevtwin]

Finally, an Orange / Black CVO!

[Mano]

Black and yellow.....Go Steelers Go. 

Ya, ya. I know they are out of the playoffs. lol.

[BigLew55]

Just read a motorcycle.com article where they show a screenshot of some audio installation instructions with special details for 2022 FLTRKSE.  Looks like those of you who have been holding out for a Shark Limited may get some love next week.

[Ironhorse]

For a company whose target audience are seniors, you would think HD would follow the lead of other motorcycle makers and add reverse. At least put reverse on the CVOs.  How many posts have we seen with members talking about having a bad back, and getting knees, hips, shoulders replaced.

This is 2022, HD needs to take care of its aging market share.

[GregKhougaz]

2022 Harley-Davidson CVO Road Glide Limited To Be Announced Jan. 26

[OBB]

2022 Harley-Davidson CVO Road Glide Limited To Be Announced Jan. 26

Interesting

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[FLSTFI Dave]

Interesting

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Yes, now if they can do a really nice paint job on it.

[OBB]

Yes, now if they can do a really nice paint job on it.

I don't see that happening. I'm guessing a rehash of the red they've used on the previous three years of it's existence. No offense to the red lovers out there but HD needs to be more creative with this bike. It just screams old man paint for most colors.

[spook120]

That looks just like my 21 CVO SG paint scheme.  It is not new.

[OBB]

That looks just like my 21 CVO SG paint scheme.  It is not new.

Correct. They just used an existing pix. Read the article for more info.

[Grizzly]

With any luck we will see the return of the Screamin ' Eagle on the fairing... Then they will sell out for sure.   

[acevtwin]

The Orange and Yellow CVO's confirmed on Harleys new teaser video!

[acevtwin]

Orange / Black looks good.

[acevtwin]

Yellow / Black looks good also.

[SHRADER]

I kinda like the street glide

[spook120]

But it's yellow.....!   Each to their own.

[BigLew55]

Looking forward to seeing them in person.  I think my wallet is going to be happy that orange is on a road glide and not a batwing....

[SHRADER]

What if the Street Glide is also available in Black/Orange

[danner55]

Yellow 1 is same colors as the 2012 Ultra CVO.

Not Impressed!

[acevtwin]

Yellow 1 is same colors as the 2012 Ultra CVO.

Not Impressed!

The Orange / Black looks to be the same color as the 2012 CVO Ultra.
I love it!

[BigLew55]

Yellow 1 is same colors as the 2012 Ultra CVO.

Not Impressed!

Loved those colors, just didn't care for the patterns they used that year.

I don't think this is the year I buy a bike, but I will certainly be drooling over these in the showroom (unless they do something silly).

[Fired00d]

Unveiling live streaming now...

 
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Fired00d
 

[mjb765]

still has the same 117 M8

[OBB]

Some wow factor on the SERGU paint for once!

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[mjb765]

Some wow factor on the SERGU paint for once!

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They had the potential to do something with the blue SERG, but they didn't........the red on the SERG limited is nice

[spence]

No Ultra CVO Limited this year, WTF

[OBB]

No Ultra CVO Limited this year, WTF

Yeah, I noticed that. I thought maybe because I was looking on my phone and couldn't scroll down far enough.


One thing I'm really disappointed in is the fact they used the same paint scheme on all 3  bikes. Change the fairing and that's it. RG gets orange, SG gets yellow and the RGL gets both while the other two also share 2 other colors

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[spook120]

Keeping my 21 I guess. No to yellow, green with squiggles, ugh, and blue looks blah. Talking about streetglides.

[BigLew55]

No Ultra CVO Limited this year, WTF

Probably saved my wallet this year.  I like BOTH the orange and yellow.  I just won't be buying a RG.  I also ain't going to do a Street Glide and build it up.

I did like the FXLRST and the RG/SG ST bikes.  I am just done buying bikes with black instead of chrome.  The chrome just stands up better to the road as time passes.

[Frank FX]

Let the complaining begin. I think HD did a nice job with the launch.

Most of you will bitch about the bikes paint, engine, etc.

[Eqcons]

No Ultra CVO Limited this year, WTF

Yep, astonishing, I always thought it was the best selling CVO.  Orange and - especially - yellow paint on the Road Glides are really nice.  But - just my opinion - the RG itself is one of the ugliest bikes ever dreamed up, If there were a yellow FLHTKSE I might have been tempted.

[KGB]

I kinda like the street glide

Cat Eye might have to upgrade 

[iski]

 

Colors are an improvement over the last few years.  Looks like the bigger engine predictions were from the wrong Pool Boy.  Will have to take a look at some of those wheels in person, am guessing the pics don't do them justice.

Glad to see a step up on the paint options.  No CVO Ultra Limited, guess they are giving it a rest & are focusing on the RGs instead.

[SHRADER]

Cat Eye might have to upgrade 

I bet he’s at the dealership right now uncrating one

[mjb765]

Yep, astonishing, I always thought it was the best selling CVO.  Orange and - especially - yellow paint on the Road Glides are really nice.  But - just my opinion - the RG itself is one of the ugliest bikes ever dreamed up, If there were a yellow FLHTKSE I might have been tempted.

I used to think so also...then it grew on me...then I rode one and was hooked. It eats up the miles so much easier.  If I could find a '19 Mako Shark CVO RG I would seriously consider trading my '15 CVO Street Glide in for it. I ride my 2020 Road Glide Limited more Than my CVO Street Glide now.

[OBB]

Let the complaining begin. I think HD did a nice job with the launch.

Most of you will bitch about the bikes paint, engine, etc.

With good reason. Same paint style across 3 different models and multiple paint schemes crossing models also.

FLTRKSE and FLTRXSE both have identical orange paint.

FLTRKSE and FLHXSE both have identical yellow paint.

Both the FLTRXSE and FLHXSE share the other two colors and paint schemes.

FLTRKSE and CVO trike both share the same paint scheme.

5 total paint schemes and colors across 4 models.

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[rayson56]

I know several people that have been waiting for a CVO RG Ultra for a while. I think the last one they built was in 2016.

I'll bet that Dante's Red Fade is absolutely gorgeous in person and especially in the direct sunlight.

[OBB]

I know several people that have been waiting for a CVO RG Ultra for a while. I think the last one they built was in 2016.

I'll bet that Dante's Red Fade is absolutely gorgeous in person and especially in the direct sunlight.

Correct on everything. That Red Fade looks a whole lot like the color scheme from the 2010 CVO Ultra to me.

[Grizzly]

No Ultra CVO Limited this year, WTF

I'm pleased that they finally took a break from producing them... The Ultra/Limited is the only model that has been consistently produced every year for a straight 17 years!  It was definitely time for a break.  Hopefully they will come back with something really exciting. 

Glad to see better colour schemes this year, but they still have a long way to go to repeat the glory days of the past IMHO.

[Boatman]

I like others like the CVO yellow or orange road glides.  I’ll be happy for anyone who gets one but $3000 for paint and $1000 surcharge gets it to $50k with freight plus whatever surcharge the stealer wants to add on.  Will just keep riding the 14. 

[YELLOWBIRD]

I bet a Mid-year launch for an CVO Ultra Limited. Maybe even a CVO Road King.

Or a Road King ST.


 

YB

[D-N-D]

Well they named a color after me so I guess I'm going to have to buy one this year !! Dante's Red Fade, lol

Dante

[OBB]

With good reason. Same paint style across 3 different models and multiple paint schemes crossing models also.

FLTRKSE and FLTRXSE both have identical orange paint.

FLTRKSE and FLHXSE both have identical yellow paint.

Both the FLTRXSE and FLHXSE share the other two colors and paint schemes.

FLTRKSE and CVO trike both share the same paint scheme.

5 total paint schemes and colors across 4 models.

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And one more thing now that I've seen a better pix of the green SESG. Those flames are the same damn pattern as the '15 and '16 SESG. Those asshats couldn't even be original with those graphics.

[FLSTFI Dave]

Some wow factor on the SERGU paint for once!

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Yes, and its about time.  My 2015 was a good color but you had to look twice to know it was a CVO. These are obvious CVO, which is a good thing.

[FLSTFI Dave]

Probably saved my wallet this year.  I like BOTH the orange and yellow.  I just won't be buying a RG.  I also ain't going to do a Street Glide and build it up.

I did like the FXLRST and the RG/SG ST bikes.  I am just done buying bikes with black instead of chrome.  The chrome just stands up better to the road as time passes.

Both CVO's I have had the black fork legs looked like crap by 20K miles.  My 19 looked so bad at 20K they were covered under warranty.  Second set slightly better, took 35K to look as bad as first set.  If you put more than 20K a year, chrome is the way to go.

Rather disappointed that the CVO did not get a bigger motor.  Motor was one of the reasons to go CVO but its in many bikes now.  I always felt when the 114 went into the specials, that the CVO should have gone up in size.

The Road Glide ST is only 2K less than my 09 CVO Road Glide was.

[acevtwin]

I'm Very happy the paint this year is "CVO Worthy".
I'm Not so happy about paying $3K extra for what has always been part of the CVO Package.

[Eqcons]

I was astonished to see that the orange and yellow paint jobs are extra cost.   That makes the CVO RG cost around US$56,000 in the UK.  I can't see how any person in their right mind would pay that for the quality and reliability that we've become too used to.  A Ford Mustang costs less here!

[HOGMIKE]

“Underwhelming”
IMHO

The 131 should be in the CVO

I’m glad I got my 19 batwing when I did and spent the $$$$ to get the power and ride quality where it should be without having to buy the new model and do it all over again!
 I’ve got about 50 k miles on this bike and smile every time we go riding.

[ultra13]

Yes, and its about time.  My 2015 was a good color but you had to look twice to know it was a CVO. These are obvious CVO, which is a good thing.

I agree Dave....When I pass a CVO I want to know it by the paint......

[Yellow09SERG]

The yellow would sure be tempting..... Maybe one will show up in a local dealer where I can see if it is the 09 yellow or somewhere close.

[SDCVO]

I was astonished to see that the orange and yellow paint jobs are extra cost.   That makes the CVO RG cost around US$56,000 in the UK.  I can't see how any person in their right mind would pay that for the quality and reliability that we've become too used to.  A Ford Mustang costs less here!

I pick a CVO over a Mustang every single time!

[Eqcons]

I pick a CVO over a Mustang every single time!

So would I, but that shows what a rip off the CVO is!

[YELLOWBIRD]

I pick a CVO over a Mustang every single time!

Not even Close!

The 09 FLTRSE3 is in a class all by itself.   



YB

[Billy]

still the same frame and suspension. i will wait Billy

[FLSTFI Dave]

still the same frame and suspension. i will wait Billy

How many more years is Harley going to try to squeeze out of that Frame, this is the 14th year for it.

[kevin_n]

I like the yellow and orange ones. The flames on the other ones look ok, want to see them in person. But I can’t believe they are having a $3,000 up charge for certain paint jobs.

[ultra13]

OK I have seen this mentioned a couple of times....I know the frame was changed in 08'. I rode to the 105th in Mill-town. Great event. So my point or question is..What more can you do to this frame? A frame is a frame right? To me the shocks are the comfort makers.

[Twolanerider]

OK I have seen this mentioned a couple of times....I know the frame was changed in 08'. I rode to the 105th in Mill-town. Great event. So my point or question is..What more can you do to this frame? A frame is a frame right? To me the shocks are the comfort makers.

You're asking for things that might be covered in master's classes in geometry, structural dynamics, and various types of suspension technologies.  For the purposes of all of us old fart riders, however, no; not all frames are the same.

Just a single tube (a "single cradle") frame is what most everything started with over a century ago.  Even most bicycles don't do this anymore.  Because they're flexible.  In ways that were not good.  Single cradles frames led to duplex frames.  That's two tubes going back with structural support in between.  Much less flexible.  And things have moved forward with varying types of triangulation and support from there.

The goal is to make frames stiffer (think FXR versus others of its day).  But you can go too far.  And none of that speaks to the geometry of the front wheel (angle, how how far forward, etc) or the triangulation/triangle that is a swingarm and how it is hung and supported/attached.

There is a lot going on underneath us.

[Billy]

I guess I should have said new frame with better suspension over all. Billy Just want a better ride without paying more to upgrade everything

[Twolanerider]

I guess I should have said new frame with better suspension over all. Billy Just want a better ride without paying more to upgrade everything

Got it.  And I lean the other way.  I've got the FXR2 that's old. And the old Road Glide that's old.  And the old Road King; that's also old.  They've all good suspension front and rear.  I don't ride them hard enough to outride the capabilities of even the old frames anymore.  So what I've got is good enough.  And they're all dialed in to me.  Other manufacturer's may not have levels of annoyance that I don't have patience for baked in to their modernization.  Harley too often has.  So I'm happy where I am. 

Only thing I would care to have that I'm missing is ABS.  If I wanted it that bad I could do that on the Road Glide or the Road King.  And I haven't.  So that probably speaks volumes to how much I really want it.

[FLSTFI Dave]

OK I have seen this mentioned a couple of times....I know the frame was changed in 08'. I rode to the 105th in Mill-town. Great event. So my point or question is..What more can you do to this frame? A frame is a frame right? To me the shocks are the comfort makers.

Not an engineer.  The frame is 14 years old.  The suspension technology is that old.  The amount of travel on the rear is not very much.  The ability to absorb harsh bumps is poor when compared to my 2021 Pan America, an 2021 Indian Challenger, a 2020 Gold Wing a 2020 BMW GTL or Bagger.  They all have more suspension travel than a touring bike by Harley in 2022.  The BMW, Goldwing and Pan America have electronics in the suspension and can change ride modes to adjust the suspension, firmer or softer.  Ride modes and change lots of other stuff.  These bikes also cost thousands less then a CVO. 

Harley needs a Frame for the touring bike that can accommodate modern motorcycle suspension and suspension adjustability especially at the 45K plus price point.

[HOGMIKE]

Not an engineer.  The frame is 14 years old.  The suspension technology is that old.  The amount of travel on the rear is not very much.  The ability to absorb harsh bumps is poor when compared to my 2021 Pan America, an 2021 Indian Challenger, a 2020 Gold Wing a 2020 BMW GTL or Bagger.  They all have more suspension travel than a touring bike by Harley in 2022.  The BMW, Goldwing and Pan America have electronics in the suspension and can change ride modes to adjust the suspension, firmer or softer.  Ride modes and change lots of other stuff.  These bikes also cost thousands less then a CVO. 

Harley needs a Frame for the touring bike that can accommodate modern motorcycle suspension and suspension adjustability especially at the 45K plus price point.

Harley has the technology and the parts to make a great touring bike.
I would expect to see the 131 engine in the CVO once they pay for CA CARB certification.

The new revolution engine makes good power, if they would make a touring bike 200 lbs lighter (like the bmw gtl) with decent suspension and keep the ergonomics the same as the current glide models THAT would be a nice bike!
I’ve ridden the new BMW’s. Very nice bike BUT, no “soul”.

Of course this would be a whole new bike and would probably be a departure from current design.
I’m pretty sure the designers are all over drawing future models.
I think Harley missed the boat with the V Rod platform with a touring model, that engine was a pretty nice design with good power and good potential. Friend of ours rode a V rod converted into a bagger, handling problems, didn’t end well. Project halted.

C’mon  Harley. Lighter, good suspension, modern power, good ergonomics, nice paint, comparable price point, good reliablity, etc.
Is that too much to ask?
Probably
JMHO

[blown alcohol]

But I can’t believe they are having a $3,000 up charge for certain paint jobs.

just wow. I was at the dealer yesterday asking about pricing on a cvo road glide. That's when I found out about the $3000 dollar paint.
All of these surcharges, and price increases I do not believe will go away.