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[DCFIREMANN]

I would like to see the oil analysis that made Zippers say that Amsoil is corrosive. I would not be supprised that if Amsoil found out that Zippers was calling Amsoil a corrosive and substandard oil that legal actions might be coming their way.

I don't think they would ever come out and blast Amsoil. When they did my motor they didn't say it was bad just not to think because it was a synthetic I could go 5k miles with it in the motor.

They did reccommend a few others to run.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[DCFIREMANN]

Motor was not ridden hard, in comparison to others, and broke in for 1000 miles prior to the trip to sturgis for the first 60HP dyno.  You were probably told about the Amsoil due to my case.  But the oil analysis did not confirm their statements.  For me, regular changes between the 2500-3000 mark, oil tested was right around the 3k mark after Myrtle.  I had also received an email from them stating my oil had experienced extreme temperatures.  When I asked about the response, I was told the oil tested had no relationship to me.  I was told the Amsoil was corrosive 1 month before the analysis was performed.  No idea how they decided it was corrosive prior to testing, I would like to know.  Have to look more into others Amsoil use.  For me, I have rebuilt jap engines before and performed lots of work on many of my bikes when I was married and had tools. Maintained my 98 Low Rider for 45k miles plus before selling and switched to Amsoil around 25k miles without issue.  I went with Zippers based on their reputation also.  Not saying that this is the rule, but being the exception sucks.

I have now read this thread 3 times. I would really like to hear both sides of this story.

I have dealt with Zippers for over 17 years now. I really have never had a problem with them. I have a 2004 SEEG with the first CVO 113 muscle kit motor built. I was there quite a bit during testing with the 103 and 113 motors. I also know how the dyno system works. I can tell you they don't look for the highest numbers, but the most accurate and reliable numbers. I PROMISE. I know how their work pratices and work ethics are. They run a very tight ship. Yes I will agree they will have some issues with customers from time to time. But they are few and far in between. They are known WORLDWIDE and there must be a reason for that.

Now to get back on track.

Screamin Eagle I am glad to hear you love the 113 sleeper. I too have one. I just need to get Punkin back to Zippers for the final dyno tune and then I will install the Auto Tune to the bike. My numbers are 126 square. Oh and by the way that was on 2 different dyno's. One Zippers and one of Zippers competiors. I am very happy with the motor and the TQ curve is right where I want it.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[screamin eagle]

I have now read this thread 3 times. I would really like to hear both sides of this story.

I have dealt with Zippers for over 17 years now. I really have never had a problem with them. I have a 2004 SEEG with the first CVO 113 muscle kit motor built. I was there quite a bit during testing with the 103 and 113 motors. I also know how the dyno system works. I can tell you they don't look for the highest numbers, but the most accurate and reliable numbers. I PROMISE. I know how their work practices and work ethics are. They run a very tight ship. Yes I will agree they will have some issues with customers from time to time. But they are few and far in between. They are known WORLDWIDE and there must be a reason for that.

Now to get back on track.

Screamin Eagle I am glad to hear you love the 113 sleeper. I too have one. I just need to get Punkin back to Zippers for the final dyno tune and then I will install the Auto Tune to the bike. My numbers are 126 square. Oh and by the way that was on 2 different dyno's. One Zippers and one of Zippers competiors. I am very happy with the motor and the TQ curve is right where I want it.

Be Safe

THE DAWG
 DC, We will have to hook up some time and discuss. I am currently running Amsoil in mine and my wife's bike with no problems. I changed to amsoil after I had 500 mile on the upgrade. I ran it for 8000 mile prior to the change with no problems. I will be changing to Redline on the next oil change and use the remaining supply of amsoil in my wife's TC88. I would be interested to see what kind of numbers mine makes after a few thousand more miles. I put almost 1000 miles on it going to the Outerbanks last week. I would definitely do the auto tune.  Later Michael

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"I have now read this thread 3 times. I would really like to hear both sides of this story."
Dawg
I was hoping you wouldn't respond to this post because I knew if you did then I would have to also.
Your line above about reading this thread three times also shows IMHO that you don't understand what has happened also. You say you would like to hear both sides of the story,,,, DAWG you have heard one side! There is only one other side left. Radavi has posted his side and whether it's true and accurate or just plain bullchit can only be determined by a response from Zippers. Think about it, one man against a large corporation. Do we expect Zippers to respond or will they just play the silent game of ignoring the issue. We all know which move for them would be the right one.

This is where you come in Dawg.
You are the only man on this site that I know of that can walk in the back door of Zippers and not be thrown out the front door. IMHO by responding to this thread and defending them you open yourself up to being part of the solution to Radavi's issue. In all the post you have placed here I have never read anything from you that put Zippers in a negative light. IMHO I do not think Zippers will respond to Radavi's post. Dawg, I love you like a brother but by you responding to Radavi's post and promoting that Zippers has high work practices and high work ethics then I think you should walk in that back door and find out what the real deal is. As you have made promises to us on this site as to Zippers quality and ability to make horsepower I promise that whatever your finding are, I will trust them to be the truth. I say that because I have the utmost respect for you. 
As I said in the beginning I was hoping you wouldn't respond to this thread but since you have I have to ask for your help in this matter. For me it's the right thing to do! I hope that you feel the same way!

Chip

"I have dealt with Zippers for over 17 years now. I really have never had a problem with them. I have a 2004 SEEG with the first CVO 113 muscle kit motor built. I was there quite a bit during testing with the 103 and 113 motors. I also know how the dyno system works. I can tell you they don't look for the highest numbers, but the most accurate and reliable numbers. I PROMISE. I know how their work pratices and work ethics are. They run a very tight ship. Yes I will agree they will have some issues with customers from time to time. But they are few and far in between. They are known WORLDWIDE and there must be a reason for that.



Be Safe

THE DAWG"

[hogasm]

I know this is not the right place to post this but since some are talking about Amsoil, here goes.

I run Amsoil in every motor  I own. From water pumps to a pair of C18 Cats that hold 15 gallons each. On the C18's a oil analysis is taken every 100 hours and nothing has been found out of the ordinary. We also have a pair of 800 hp Detroits that have over 8000 hours on them and we have never changed the oil. It runs through a special filter system that Amsoil has and we onlly change the filters and top off the oil that is lost in the filter change.

On another motor 1975 Ford 351 windsor, in one of our vans, it had 299,825 miles when I forgot to clean out the breather after a sand storm. Blew the gaskets so I decided to rebuild it. Took it to the machine shop and the cylinders cleaned up before a 5 thousands bore. We tool it to 10 thousands over because we could not get at that time 5 thousand over pistons. Today that motor has over 750,000 miles.

For me Amsoil all the way

[DCFIREMANN]

Chip I have talked to Zippers and they ARE TWO SIDE TO THIS STORY!!!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

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Chip I have talked to Zippers and they ARE TWO SIDE TO THIS STORY!!!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

Well Dawg if you can't tell it here then call me.
You have the #.

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And damnit, as much as I hate typing you could have called me to start with!

[DCFIREMANN]

I am reaching out to touch some one!!!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[Twolanerider]

I am reaching out to touch some one!!!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

Anyone feel a little tickle?

[DCFIREMANN]

I AM BEING TICKELED RIGHT NOW!!!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[Fired00d]

I AM BEING TICKELED RIGHT NOW!!!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

On second thought that might just be TMI.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[DCFIREMANN]

On second thought that might just be TMI.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

LONG DISTANCE AT THAT!!!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[Fired00d]

LONG DISTANCE AT THAT!!!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

LOL!!!

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[SBB]

Anyone feel a little tickle?

Well!
Long discussion with Dawg!
And a good one
In my above post I stated to him that one side of the story had been told and it wasn't the Zippers side.
I was wrong.
To stand corrected, I have to say only parts of one side of the story have been told. The parts that have been told were information that put Zippers in a bad light. There is much more to the story than what has been posted.

In summary, based on info I received I would purchase from Zippers with out concern.
(but like Don, I have to wonder WHY DOES SHIPPING TAKE SO LONG?)
But since the T man parts I have seem to be indestructable, I probably will not have to! 


Dawg, your help and quick followup is appreciated!
Now get your ass to MBBW so we can wear out Hubbard!

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[TheVgirl]

Hey Chip, we'll be in Traveler's Rest this weekend!  Why don't you, Nancy, Hubbard and Otis ride down for brunch or lunch on Sunday?  Won't have the bikes, but can still shoot the $hit!