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[Eqcons]

Having become increasingly dissatisfied with the built-in GPS on my CUSE₂, and knowing the fondness many of you have for devices like the Garmin Zumo, I'm considering, with an acquaintance who is an electronics engineer, going into production of a device that will allow a GPS/Radar detector with an audio output to connect into the HD Audio system ('06-on type).  It will mute the audio you are listening to, give you the message in your headset/through your fairing speakers, and return the audio to normal thereafter.  In that respect it will be far and away superior to the AUX socket!   It will be a proper, discrete device, mounted out of sight, and all you'll see will be a (probably fairing mounted) jack into which you'd plug the audio-out of your GPS or Radar detector. You will still be able to listen to your radio/CD/XM/MP3 player unlike just playing MP3s of the card in the Zumo (or whatever) through the AUX input.

Can I ask:

1)  how interested would you be in such a device (ignoring cost for the moment), and

2) (now not ignoring cost!) what sort of figure you'd expect to pay for it?

Thanks for your input, everyone!

Jim

[REGGAB]

Having become increasingly dissatisfied with the built-in GPS on my CUSE₂, and knowing the fondness many of you have for devices like the Garmin Zumo, I'm considering, with an acquaintance who is an electronics engineer, going into production of a device that will allow a GPS/Radar detector with an audio output to connect into the HD Audio system ('06-on type).  It will mute the audio you are listening to, give you the message in your headset/through your fairing speakers, and return the audio to normal thereafter.  In that respect it will be far and away superior to the AUX socket!   It will be a proper, discrete device, mounted out of sight, and all you'll see will be a (probably fairing mounted) jack into which you'd plug the audio-out of your GPS or Radar detector. You will still be able to listen to your radio/CD/XM/MP3 player unlike just playing MP3s of the card in the Zumo (or whatever) through the AUX input.

Can I ask:

1)  how interested would you be in such a device (ignoring cost for the moment), and

2) (now not ignoring cost!) what sort of figure you'd expect to pay for it?

Thanks for your input, everyone!

Jim

Jim, I saw this earlier yesterday, but didn't respond, because I have no use for any of the devices for which a capability like the one you describe would be used..........at this point in my life.  Then I saw your post in the FLHTCUSE section, and figured I'd at least add some data that hopefully you can meld into information.  So, to answer your first question, at this point in my life, I'm not interested.  As for #2.......surely that must be rhetorical.  It's difficult to gage what you need to recover R&D, System Design and Development, Low Rate Initial Production and an ultimate full tool-up to mass production.............so, considering that all of that is not being considered, then there is no more rhetoric.  For a simple circuit board, harness and jack, no more than $20.00.

Hope this helps.

[Eqcons]

Jim, I saw this earlier yesterday, but didn't respond, because I have no use for any of the devices for which a capability like the one you describe would be used..........at this point in my life.  Then I saw your post in the FLHTCUSE section, and figured I'd at least add some data that hopefully you can meld into information.  So, to answer your first question, at this point in my life, I'm not interested.  As for #2.......surely that must be rhetorical.  It's difficult to gage what you need to recover R&D, System Design and Development, Low Rate Initial Production and an ultimate full tool-up to mass production.............so, considering that all of that is not being considered, then there is no more rhetoric.  For a simple circuit board, harness and jack, no more than $20.00.

Hope this helps.

Yes, thanks Reggab.  It'll be a bit more sophisticated than that though, and we're just trying to gauge how spohisticated it should be.

Jim

[REGGAB]

Yes, thanks Reggab.  It'll be a bit more sophisticated than that though, and we're just trying to gauge how spohisticated it should be.

Jim

It is a bit difficult to gage what one feels something is worth, without knowing all the logistics processes involved in the effort.  I gleaned the data I could fron your initial post, formed it into the best information I could, and arrived at what I thought would be a fair price......without considering your need to recover all the costs of development.  I think you're on the right track tho'...........and I'd also expect to see a price considerably higher than the one I listed.............but with the data you provided, and the information I formed from that data, my case analysis yields a pretty low figure.....but there are many holes yet to be filled.

I wish you much success with your endeavor.

Henry

[Eqcons]

It is a bit difficult to gage what one feels something is worth, without knowing all the logistics processes involved in the effort.  I gleaned the data I could fron your initial post, formed it into the best information I could, and arrived at what I thought would be a fair price......without considering your need to recover all the costs of development.  I think you're on the right track tho'...........and I'd also expect to see a price considerably higher than the one I listed.............but with the data you provided, and the information I formed from that data, my case analysis yields a pretty low figure.....but there are many holes yet to be filled.

I wish you much success with your endeavor.

Henry

Thanks Henry. 

Jim

[Moodman]

Jim,

I use my Garmin Zumo very often. The one thing I don't like is having to wear an earpiece to hear the audio. I would much prefer the sound to come through my fairing speakers.
So yes, I would be interested. Cost? Really not sure.

Moodman

[2006_CVO_HD]

The one thing I don't like is having to wear an earpiece to hear the audio. I would much prefer the sound to come through my fairing speakers.

Absolutely......

[Eqcons]

Jim,

I use my Garmin Zumo very often. The one thing I don't like is having to wear an earpiece to hear the audio. I would much prefer the sound to come through my fairing speakers.
So yes, I would be interested. Cost? Really not sure.

Moodman

We're considering just how "clever" to make it at the moment, which will impact the cost, hence the question.  is the audio output on the Zumo just a 3.5mm jack?

Jim

[Moodman]

Yes, it's 3.5

[Eqcons]

Yes, it's 3.5

thanks!

[Chief]

Having become increasingly dissatisfied with the built-in GPS on my CUSE₂, and knowing the fondness many of you have for devices like the Garmin Zumo, I'm considering, with an acquaintance who is an electronics engineer, going into production of a device that will allow a GPS/Radar detector with an audio output to connect into the HD Audio system ('06-on type).  It will mute the audio you are listening to, give you the message in your headset/through your fairing speakers, and return the audio to normal thereafter.  In that respect it will be far and away superior to the AUX socket!   It will be a proper, discrete device, mounted out of sight, and all you'll see will be a (probably fairing mounted) jack into which you'd plug the audio-out of your GPS or Radar detector. You will still be able to listen to your radio/CD/XM/MP3 player unlike just playing MP3s of the card in the Zumo (or whatever) through the AUX input.

Can I ask:

1)  how interested would you be in such a device (ignoring cost for the moment), and

2) (now not ignoring cost!) what sort of figure you'd expect to pay for it?

Thanks for your input, everyone!

Jim

Jim,

Check out Cell Set. I think they offer a line of units similar to what you are talking about. Maybe you can get some of the information you are looking for by reviewing their offerings. They look like the only game in town for this stuff, so having competing products would be good for everyone, except Cell Set that is.

[Eqcons]

Thanks Chief.  I used a Cellset gizmo on my 03 bike, and it worked fine. However, it was very complex - modular, and you had a fair amount of wiring to do yourself - and expensive. MUCH more expensive than the device we plan.  The main thing is, though, that they have no plans to produce a device for the '06 on HK audio system.

Jim

[Chief]

Thanks Chief.  I used a Cellset gizmo on my 03 bike, and it worked fine. However, it was very complex - modular, and you had a fair amount of wiring to do yourself - and expensive. MUCH more expensive than the device we plan.  The main thing is, though, that they have no plans to produce a device for the '06 on HK audio system.

Jim

Jim,

I wasn't aware they weren't going after the HK market. Actually, I remember a post a few months back when one member was having trouble interfacing the Zumo into the HK and his solution involved a chain of Cell Set products. I never saw anything else about that. I couldn't find that thread searching either.

I hope you come up with a more economical solution than the Cell Set as I looked into them for my GPS, but it was cost prohibitive, so I guess I would be interested in a device to hook my Garmin in at a price point substantially less than Cell Set's price.

Does that help?

[Eqcons]

Jim,

I wasn't aware they weren't going after the HK market. Actually, I remember a post a few months back when one member was having trouble interfacing the Zumo into the HK and his solution involved a chain of Cell Set products. I never saw anything else about that. I couldn't find that thread searching either.

I hope you come up with a more economical solution than the Cell Set as I looked into them for my GPS, but it was cost prohibitive, so I guess I would be interested in a device to hook my Garmin in at a price point substantially less than Cell Set's price.

Does that help?

Yes, thanks Chief.  We'd hope that it will be very substantially less, and much simpler to install, than Cellset's price.

We were considering making the device increase volume with speed, but I doubt that's necessary?  My TomTom has that feature already, so am I correct in assuming the Garmin range does too?

Jim

[Chief]

Yes, thanks Chief.  We'd hope that it will be very substantially less, and much simpler to install, than Cellset's price.

We were considering making the device increase volume with speed, but I doubt that's necessary?  My TomTom has that feature already, so am I correct in assuming the Garmin range does too?

Jim

I don't know. I haven't ever used the audio out of my 2610 for obvious reasons.