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Re: New Software and Firmware for TM/AT
« Reply #45 on: October 04, 2007, 06:26:09 AM »

bisounours, thanks alot for the links. have you connected to pocket pc yet?
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Re: New Software and Firmware for TM/AT
« Reply #46 on: October 04, 2007, 11:39:58 AM »

Me, no !
Only PC.

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Re: New Software and Firmware for TM/AT
« Reply #47 on: October 10, 2007, 05:54:25 PM »

Today, I received the new firmware from Randy Dull (Zipper's) with these advises :

Jacques,

I've attached the 4.5 firmware. Please read the instructions below
carefully. Save your map first and reload it after the firmware upgrade.

Save the firmware to the following folder where the software will
automatically retrieve it during the firmware upgrade.

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\Thunder
Heart\SmartLinkIVZippers\FirmwareUpgrades

Firmware upgrades are done through the software at Configure> Firmware>
Upgrade Module Firmware Now. This process is self guiding. SmartLink IV
version 2007.0.6 is required for this firmware. Very early versions of the
ThunderMax ECM are not updateable to the 4.5 firmware by the end user and
must be sent to Zippers for modification. Contact Zippers Product Support
for details. RELOAD your saved map or best matching map after upgrading the
firmware.

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The latest software, updatable through SmartLink IV, is version 2007.0.6.
This version includes adjustable values in the Basic Settings for
eliminating the decel pop. Coupled with the firmware version 4.5, this is a
useful tool. An updated Tuning Manual is due out soon as well which will add
guidance to the process.

Basic additions in the latest software:
*Specific timing adjustment pages every 256 rpms with real timing values in
degrees.

*Adjustable temp warning (engine light) threshold.

*Decel fuel cut option in "Basic Settings" to help eliminate decel popping.

In Basic Settings:
"Decel Fuel Cut" setting enables/disables the process.
"Decel Fuel Cut RPM High" value is the rpm where the fuel is cut-off under
deceleration.
"Decel Fuel Cut RPM Low" value is where fuel is restored.
"Decel Post Fuel Enrichment" adds a shot of fuel when throttling back up.
This value may be lowered from the default setting if an over fuel or
surging condition is detected.


Thanks,

Randy Dull
Product Support
phone 410 579-2828 x 120
Fax   410 579-2835
www.zippersperformance.com


Thanks to Randy, and I hope this help you !

Jacques
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  SE RYO A/C and KN filter, V&H dressers duals and
          oval, TM/AT map#364, SE 251 cams.
     2008 FLHTCUSE3, White Frost and Silver Mist
              (Casper) -> 6th February 2008
             SE 251 cams/Torrington bearings,
      SE pushrods, SE High compression pistons,
             A/C Big sucker, V&H dresser duals ,
             Fullsac baffles, SE Pro Super Tuner.
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Re: New Software and Firmware for TM/AT
« Reply #48 on: October 29, 2007, 11:05:37 AM »

The new software SmartLink IV version 2007.0.10 is downloable.
http://www.thunder-max.com/Support/Instructions/FuelInjectionSoftware.aspx

The previous version was 2007.0.6.

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  SE RYO A/C and KN filter, V&H dressers duals and
          oval, TM/AT map#364, SE 251 cams.
     2008 FLHTCUSE3, White Frost and Silver Mist
              (Casper) -> 6th February 2008
             SE 251 cams/Torrington bearings,
      SE pushrods, SE High compression pistons,
             A/C Big sucker, V&H dresser duals ,
             Fullsac baffles, SE Pro Super Tuner.
2011 FLHXSE2, Stage1

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Re: New Software for TM/AT
« Reply #49 on: December 29, 2007, 01:39:11 PM »


  My TMax Shows several Rev Limiter Hits. And I have never Hit The Limiter!!! I also own a 05 VRSCSC, And believe me , I KNOW WHEN I HIT THE LIMITER!
  Will the new firmware/Software fix this problem?
Thanks in Advance





I'm certain that the installation is *perfect*, Ron.  I'll recheck though, and I'll zero the map and reload, go through the entire thing again, and I'll check what the AFR is with the engine off.   But I have to say that, since I'm not the only person with the pinging problem - not by a LONG way, as you can tell from here and V-Twin Forum - I doubt it will help. Happy to try anything though.  I'm still of the opinion though, that since the TMAT doesn't use the Ion sensor, and thus can't adjust the timing on the fly, it's going to be wrong for every bike at some point as the ambient temperature changes.   Sure, as you say, there's always a solution - but that seems to be manual  tuning, which is not what I paid all the extra money for.

Hear what you say about them having no intention not to respond or piss people off, but they DO do that; correct me if I'm wrong (happy to be corrected!) but it seems all they are interested in is sales; the place is always short staffed, because most of them are off to some rally or another to sell more product. Nothing wrong with wanting to sell, sell, sell - but they should NOT do that at the expense of those who have paid, paid paid, and need PROMPT - very, very prompt - attention.

Because the timing on the base map that is supposedly suitable for my bike is plainly way off, and my bike has a very common spec, (hence, I guess the many people with pinging problems), instead of heading off to Sturgis or wherever, they should be coming up with better maps, or even better, making the TMAT pay attention to what the Ion sensor is trying to tell it. How long since we saw a new map?  The new firmware is said to fix SOME of the spurious log entries, such as the false rev limit hits, but not all of them.  Shouldn't they stay home and fix that sort of thing instead of heading off to rallies?

I'd be delighted to be a guinea pig for improvements, and I'm happy to stick with them, giving it all my best shot to make it work as I have a right to expect, but I need to see some progress to regain confidence, especially as I can't go there!   Too many people with pinging problems = too many maps that are wrong, in my simple view.   I don't want the flashy new version of Smartlink IV to give me access to more things to adjust, I want it to AUTOTUNE like it says on the tin, so my bike runs well and my engine - a touchy subject for me - is safe. I don't need that last HP, I don't need the last ounce of torque, and I don't want to play with timing, charts, settings.....  That is not why I bought the TMAT, and I want to like it, like Zippers, to be a fan of both. 

Jim


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Re: New Software for TM/AT
« Reply #50 on: December 30, 2007, 08:27:52 AM »

  My TMax Shows several Rev Limiter Hits. And I have never Hit The Limiter!!! I also own a 05 VRSCSC, And believe me , I KNOW WHEN I HIT THE LIMITER!
  Will the new firmware/Software fix this problem?
Thanks in Advance

Yes, mine showed that too.  I didn't pay too much attention to it.  I don't know whether the new firmware and software will fix it, try it and see!  :drink:

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