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[porthole]

So, I got caught in some really bad downpours - T-storms on the way home from Gatlinburg.

What I already knew was my HD riding glasses (similar to the Panotix) fog up in anything but a light drizzle.
Taking the foam off helps just a little, but then lets too much rain in behind.

So, for heavy rain I started wearing goggles over my glasses. This worked for awhile until the foam got saturated, and water started leaking in behind the goggles. Then they fog ...

The rain was heavy enough that the inside of my headlight is damp!

Any suggestions, short of a full face helmet?

[Hoist!]

So, I got caught in some really bad downpours - T-storms on the way home from Gatlinburg.

What I already knew was my HD riding glasses (similar to the Panotix) fog up in anything but a light drizzle.
Taking the foam off helps just a little, but then lets too much rain in behind.

So, for heavy rain I started wearing goggles over my glasses. This worked for awhile until the foam got saturated, and water started leaking in behind the goggles. Then they fog ...

The rain was heavy enough that the inside of my headlight is damp!

Any suggestions, short of a full face helmet?

I'd just wear your regular eyeglasses and make sure your windshield's tall enough to get behind in a downpour! I just wear a pair od KD's and use an 18" windshield on the SERK, and it works pretty well for me. Enclosed glasses tend to fog up!

Hoist!

[Fired00d]

Duane,
I'm in the same situation as you (wearing glasses), and what I use is a flip up shield/visor when it rains. This is the only thing that I've found that keeps my glasses from fogging up and rain/water from accumulating on the outside and inside of my eyeglasses. I wear the "shorty" style helmet that you see in my avatar that has the three snap visor, and they make a three snap flip up shield/visor that will work with that style helmet.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[porthole]

I'd just wear your regular eyeglasses and make sure your windshield's tall enough to get behind in a downpour! I just wear a pair od KD's and use an 18" windshield on the SERK, and it works pretty well for me. Enclosed glasses tend to fog up!

Hoist!

Howie, the only windshield that would have worked yesterday would have had to been a bubble!

High winds, torrential downpour and outrageous lightning that I would have enjoyed watching if I was not on the bike.
Most of the time I was on a highway, and when the trucks went by ...............

I know a full face or a 3/4 with a shield would have helped, but that is not what I packed for the trip.

[porthole]

"shorty" style helmet

Gary, although my shorty is a DOT helmet, it has no snaps. I would just like to find a pair of goggles that actually work.

[Fired00d]

Gary, although my shorty is a DOT helmet, it has no snaps. I would just like to find a pair of goggles that actually work.

Good luck. I haven't been able to find any that would help in the type of rain you experienced. Actually had a friend that was using goggles on our recent trip and had the same problem w/fogging and he's looking into getting the setup as I described because of the fogging issue.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[Twolanerider]

Duane, I've never found a pair of glasses or goggles that, by themselves, were good in toad strangling rain.  Have tried lots of different things over the years.  Some are pretty good in even moderate showers.  But if it rains heavy the environment always beat the ability of the glasses to keep out rain/fog/whatever-the-problem-might-be.

I always like a little visor even on my half helmets.  So they had snaps.  Those flip up shields that Gary mentioned were often obnoxious to carry.  And they't not stay super clear for terribly long.  But they were cheap.  So I'd make sure I had one of them along on longer trips.  They worked.  Not a panacea.  But at least it was enough. 

This is another area where I quickly came to like having the full lid as an option though.  It might run down your neck a little in a big rain.  But you can still see and it's not stinging the crap out of your face any longer. 

[Screamin]

I'm hoping someone here has the answer as I too have never found the perfect solution. I use the little 3 snap visor and carry a micro fiber rag in my windshield pouch and just wipe the glasses and my face every so often. There's gotta be a better way.

[miker]

I carry ski goggles on board.  They are adequate but for the kind of rain you descibed maybe a dive mask is needed.

Miker

[WFP]

I carry ski goggles on board.  They are adequate but for the kind of rain you descibed maybe a dive mask is needed.

Miker

[miker]

Similar, scipts available, not responsible for others laughing at you.

Miker

[miker]

Same

[WFP]

need a pick Wearing the Mask and snokel while riding !

[greglyon]

Has anyone tried using the same stuff employed by divers to keep their masks from fogging underwater?  The stuff works better than spit. 

Also,  if the water were to  bead off the windscreen that would improve visibility.  Anyone have a product they swear by?

[porthole]

good toad strangling rain. 
It might run down your neck a little in a big rain.  But you can still see and it's not stinging the crap out of your face any longer. 

Ah yup, that about sums it up 

It might run down your neck a little in a big rain.  But you can still see and it's not stinging the crap out of your face any longer. 

I tend to put the hood on, so that would stop the neck part and the stinging gets old after awhile. And at the higher elevations the rain is more acidic, so it doesn't taste that great either 

[porthole]

I carry ski goggles on board.  They are adequate but for the kind of rain you described

I am not a skier, so I don't have any. But, I was hanging in a gas station watching the electrical display when some dude rolled up on a bike with apes. He was drenched, no gear, crappy little helmet and very foggy riding glasses, almost rolled into my bike since he couldn't see.

He had a friend come by with dry clothes, a Helly Hanson foul weather set and ski goggles. The rain gear looked funny, but the ski goggles looked like the ticket.

Although, when we left it was still pouring, I wonder how it feels with the apes and the water running down your arm? He only had 40 miles to go.

I carry ski goggles on board.  They are adequate but for the kind of rain you described maybe a dive mask is needed.

Now that I have, even a couple of models with my prescription. If I had thought of it I would have packed it! Only problem with a dive mask is they cover your nose.

[porthole]

would have been dark Bill, so no one would have so me, probably would have been laughing to hard anyway looking at the nuts riding in what we were in.

[RJ749]

I haven't used these personally, however check this link for the Bobster Anti-Fog lens goggles.  Multiple styles etc.

http://www.safetyglassesusa.com/anti-fog-safety-glasses.html

[RJ749]

Also, an anti-fog coating woul assist in reducing the fog effect as well.

Even if it doesn't work it might be worth havings around for it's name alone, just don't confuse it with your favoirite lubricant....................


http://www.safetyglassesusa.com/hsaf.html

[porthole]

Has anyone tried using the same stuff employed by divers to keep their masks from fogging underwater?  The stuff works better than spit. 

Spit does work. The anti fog works too, just a step above spit. Problem is you apply and rinse. Both leave a film on the inside which is what helps with the fog. Underwater you are seldom looking more then several feet to maybe 10-20 feet, so the "film" is almost invisible. I've never sat on the surface long but I would imagine that it would be like looking though wet goggles, blurry.

Underwater the masks will still fog, but all you do it let a little water in, swish it around and then clear the mask.

I may try the anti fog, will pick some up next time I am at the shop.

[porthole]

These look interesting. And the shop is near my work, I'll try and get over there next month to check them out.
Worked out to 260 with my Rx and options, including the anti-fog.

http://www.rx-safety.com/Wiley-X-Eyewear/Frame-Model-AirRage.htm

[FR8TRN]

Ran into the same problem myself Saturday.  Ended up going about 25 miles with my glasses pulled down and rain hitting me in the eyes, couldn't see otherwise.  Finally got to a place where I could dry off the insides a bit and made it the rest of the way home.  I'll be watching this thread to see what comes of it.....

[dfrny]

In all my riding I have never really found something that works 100% in heavy rain conditions. I have tried various goggles, snap on shields, etc. but there always seems to be fogging that occurs. I have been riding this season w/ a SEER 1/2 helmet that I am now thinking of getting a snap-on eye visor shield and applying this spray to it. I have had limited success in the past w/ similar products (RainX, etc). but what I have read so far this seems worth trying. Of course this means I have to carry the face shield, make sure the spray is "fresh" (the specs recommends new coating every 24 hours) and pack all of it where I can get to it quickly when the down pour starts  


http://estores.infront.com/superseer/item_info.asp?pid=97

[porthole]

I just ordered a pair of these to try for the short term

http://estores.infront.com/superseer/item_info.asp?pid=53

[lilbear]

Has anyone tried using the same stuff employed by divers to keep their masks from fogging underwater?  The stuff works better than spit. 

Also,  if the water were to  bead off the windscreen that would improve visibility.  Anyone have a product they swear by?

Yeah, and it works great!  A product called "Spit" works like a charm.  They have two versions, one is a liquid gel which is better suited for diving, but the spray version is great for diving as well as for ski masks and bike goggles. You just spray on a light film, let it dry, buff it off with a soft rag and you're good for about 6 hours of so - even if it gets wet!  As a bonus, on really hot or cold days, it keeps your goggle from fogging up due to humidity etc. when you're not moving.

[lilbear]

You can get "Spit" by mail order from leisurepro.com for about $8.  Small bottle and easy to keep in a saddle bag.  Manufacturer states that it also lasts for 24 hours, but practical experience says only about 6 to 8 hours.  Still pretty good though.

[RJ749]

Here's a possible CVO/OCD solution to the fog issue.

Smith's Turbo Fan Goggle specifically designed to eliminate fogging and with a design to be used with helmets.

Setting the standard in goggle performance, our patented* Turbo Fan technology eliminates fog. A silent, 2-speed micro-electronic fan runs continuously for up to fifty hours to draw air through strategically placed vents, preventing moisture from setting up shop inside your goggle. The result is perfect vision. A high power mode can be activated to clear moisture build-up in extreme situations. Sleek, lightweight and hates fog as much as you do. The bar has officially been raised. 

http://www.smithoptics.com/Turbo-Option-OTG_16_102.html

[bpalmersheim]

Has anyone tried using the same stuff employed by divers to keep their masks from fogging underwater?  The stuff works better than spit. 

Also,  if the water were to  bead off the windscreen that would improve visibility.  Anyone have a product they swear by?

Rain-X

[Midnight Rider]

Here's a possible CVO/OCD solution to the fog issue.

Smith's Turbo Fan Goggle specifically designed to eliminate fogging and with a design to be used with helmets.



+ Spherical, Carbonic-X lens with TLT Optics
+ Patented Vaporator lens technology with Porex filter
+ Articulating Outrigger Positioning System
+ QuickFit strap adjustment system
+ Large fit
+ Helmet and ODS compatible
+ Two speed, micro-electronic fan
+ Carbonic-X Lens

http://www.smithoptics.com/Knowledge-Trubo-Fan-OTG_10_461.html

Those work great for skiing...don't have a pair, but know some who do.  Not sure how they'd do in the rain though.

One thing to watch for in the ski goggles is whether they will fit over your eyeglasses, or have some kind of insert for a prescription set that clip inside the goggle.

The only thing I've ever found that works in a downpour is a full face helmet...the flip face actually are better because the visor is just a bit further from your mouth/nose than a regular fixed full face.  Might get a drip or two here and there down the neck, but just cracking the visor a hair keeps the lens clear, along with the lower vents being open. I used to fish every month of the year, rain or shine, and my bass boat would run 70mph...I had a full face helmet in the boat for rain/cold conditions.  At 70mph, rain HURTS when it hits your face.  

The Nolan 102 has been fine in this regard...even in the extreme heat we've had here the last few weeks, I've found the full face to actually be COOLER because it keeps the blast furnace air temp from hitting me squarely in the face as it does in a shorty.  I've just about given up on wearing the shorty on anything but short rides to dinner.

[Twolanerider]

Here's a possible CVO/OCD solution to the fog issue.

Smith's Turbo Fan Goggle specifically designed to eliminate fogging and with a design to be used with helmets.

Setting the standard in goggle performance, our patented* Turbo Fan technology eliminates fog. A silent, 2-speed micro-electronic fan runs continuously for up to fifty hours to draw air through strategically placed vents, preventing moisture from setting up shop inside your goggle. The result is perfect vision. A high power mode can be activated to clear moisture build-up in extreme situations. Sleek, lightweight and hates fog as much as you do. The bar has officially been raised. 

http://www.smithoptics.com/Turbo-Option-OTG_16_102.html

Their site talks a lot about fog.  Never found one mention of rain though.  Wonder if the electrics would shock, fry or die and just how much water the venting system would let in?

[miker]

Combo ?

Miker

[Twolanerider]

Combo ?



Miker

No way.  Too much more chit to have to polish.

[porthole]

Their site talks a lot about fog.  Never found one mention of rain though.  Wonder if the electrics would shock, fry or die and just how much water the venting system would let in?

I sent them a list of questions Don. I may end up with a full face, but I am still leaning against it. Although, the discussion came up at dinner the other night (yep, you missed a good one) and after talking to Terry a bit on the subject I am falling off the fence a bit.

[Twolanerider]

I sent them a list of questions Don. I may end up with a full face, but I am still leaning against it. Although, the discussion came at dinner the other night (yep, you missed a good one) and after talking to Terry a bit on the subject I am falling off the fence a bit.

Very sorry to have missed the group Duane.  Was really looking forward to it but just couldn't make the weekend free and still have everything needed done to leave on the vacation trip in a few days.  I'm sure it was my loss.

TC and Diva got the same helmet I've been using for a 18 months or so now.  I was leery getting started with it too.  Had never worn one before; not even around the block.  Really took very little getting used to though.  It also does its job.  It may not be what I use 100% of the time.  But it's what I use for anything but short hops.  Really like having it now.

[porthole]

Combo ?

Well Mike, this would work, but visibility is limited.

I have made about a dozen dives in a "Navy Mark V" (helmet pictured). And fogging is not an issue. Works on the same principal the "Smith" goggles work on.

Instead of a fan the air supply to the diver is free flow. Air flows from the surface through the helmet and escapes. Air is always flowing and lost, so the helmet does not fog up. Works well.

But the size of the compressor needed and the weight of the helmet (35 pounds) would be a bit much for running through the Ddragon.

[porthole]

No way.  Too much more chit to have to polish.

True Navy Mark V's are coated with solder, dull and silver, and need no polish. It is all the wannabes that have the polished brass - copper helmets on display

[RJ749]

Their site talks a lot about fog.  Never found one mention of rain though.  Wonder if the electrics would shock, fry or die and just how much water the venting system would let in?

You know rain.....if there's a place to get in it will..............

[porthole]

You know rain.....if there's a place to get in it will..............

The inside of my headlight had moisture in it!

[Midnight Rider]

I sent them a list of questions Don. I may end up with a full face, but I am still leaning against it. Although, the discussion came at dinner the other night (yep, you missed a good one) and after talking to Terry a bit on the subject I am falling off the fence a bit.

Duane...using the flip face allows you to flip it up at stoplights, etc to talk to others in the group you are riding with.  It's literally a two finger, one hand operation to flip.  It look a little goofy to ride with it flipped up, but I do so for short distances, like when you're passing through a small town, or going fairly slow.  Also, on the Nolan, the sunshade is very nice and eliminates the need for sunglasses in my case, but that depends to some extent on how that portion of the face shield lines up with where your eyes are set in your head. (Don's head did not allow him to enjoy that feature).  I can have the sunshade just one click up from all the way down and find it blocks all but the rising or setting sun, and I am looking through the clear visor.  My spectacles are transition lenses, so provide the same benefits as sunglasses.

I also have a HD flip face that I use on the Vrod (no need for the J&M headset built into the Nolan)...think it's the Stealth helmet, but it's built by KBC for HD.  It is VERY comfortable, and literally takes only your thumb to flip up, and it is extremely well vented.

If you wear glasses, the flip face helmets are the only way to go for a full face, as you don't have to remove your glasses to put the helmet on/off.

The Turbo Goggles for skiing would not work well, I don't think.  They are made for fogging that is encountered when it's 15 degrees outside and you're not moving...the little fan would suck moisture in...and I'm not sure they would fit over glasses.  Not many of the ski goggles fit over glasses.

[Twolanerider]

Duane...using the flip face allows you to flip it up at stoplights, etc to talk to others in the group you are riding with.  It's literally a two finger, one hand operation to flip.  

Still chuckle when I remember one unexpected side benefit.  First decent days ride I took with the new helmet was on a bright shiny spring day.  Definite sunburn type day if one didn't use the goop.

I stopped that night, got a cheap room and went about the business of meal, rest, etc.  Next morning noticed in the mirror over the basin that something wasn't right.  Couldn't put my finger on it.  But something was odd.  Thought about it for a moment, shaved, thought some more then realized; no owl eyes.  The UV protection in the face shield of the helmet.  Had never had that not happen before.

[RJ749]

The Turbo Goggles for skiing would not work well, I don't think.  They are made for fogging that is encountered when it's 15 degrees outside and you're not moving...the little fan would suck moisture in...and I'm not sure they would fit over glasses.  Not many of the ski goggles fit over glasses.

These are actually a Turbo Moto X goggle that they have on site: http://www.smithoptics.com/Turbo-Option-OTG_16_102.html

Not sure any goggle would be efficient in a downpour though.

[LRebel]

Been riding for a long time and have never found anything that works 100% of the time in all conditions.  The SPIT stuff is probably the best option.

Wait a minute, there is one thing that has always worked for me....a coffee shop to watch the rain from.

[Midnight Rider]

Read this:

http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motorcycle-helmet-visor-anti-fog/

Cat Crap....the stuff does work.

[miker]

So does shaving cream. I like the "coffee shop" better.

Miker

[spydglide]

In the really hard frog-strangler rains that Porthole is describing, the only thing I've found that works is take off all glasses (if you are not riding w/a flip-shield helmet), bend down and use your helmet visor (see chrome HD fender tip attached to helmet in avatar) to peer from beneath and ride until you can find some cover to wait for a drought.  har!  spyder

[FR8TRN]

In the really hard frog-strangler rains that Porthole is describing, the only thing I've found that works is take off all glasses (if you are not riding w/a flip-shield helmet), bend down and use your helmet visor (see chrome HD fender tip attached to helmet in avatar) to peer from beneath and ride until you can find some cover to wait for a drought.  har!  spyder

Thats what I was doing...only my helmet ain't got no visor....but the microphone for the headset was doing a good job of blocking the rain for my left eye. 

[cuthbertss]

Check out essgoggles.com
The V12 advancer might do the trick
Sides pop out for venting. I have used them extensively in environments where normal goggles fail and have had good luck

[cuthbertss]

Actually I think its VR12. But I'm not near a computer.  Used a lot in door kicker jobs. And work well with a ballistic helmet

[JR]

Actually I think its VR12. But I'm not near a computer.  Used a lot in door kicker jobs. And work well with a ballistic helmet

How did you post this???

[porthole]

How did you post this???

Hey JR,

Highlight the text and then click the "glow button"

[JR]

Actually I think its VR12. But I'm not near a computer.  Used a lot in door kicker jobs. And work well with a ballistic helmet

Thanks Duane, but I was the one who highlighted "But I'm not near a computer now". I was curious how Scot posted this if he wasn't near a computer? I appreciate your help, Thanks Buddy, God Bless!

                                                                    JR

[Fired00d]

Thanks Duane, but I was the one who highlighted "But I'm not near a computer now". I was curious how Scot posted this if he wasn't near a computer? I appreciate your help, Thanks Buddy, God Bless!

                                                                    JR

He's probably using a Blackberry or some device similar to that, that allows him internet access.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[cuthbertss]

I have the magic ability to post using just brain and my thoughts   

heres the link, see if they work

http://www.essgoggles.com/Advancer-V-12_99_detail.html

[cuthbertss]

I have the magic ability to post using just brain and my thoughts   

heres the link, see if they work

http://www.essgoggles.com/Advancer-V-12_99_detail.html

i forgot to mention they can handle prescription inserts as well

and they will prevent shrapnel from taking your eyes out!

[Fired00d]

I have the magic ability to post using just brain and my thoughts   

heres the link, see if they work

http://www.essgoggles.com/Advancer-V-12_99_detail.html

Bullchit!!!!!

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[cuthbertss]

Bullchit!!!!!

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

guess what my brain waves are sharing with you right now d00d?    lol

[Fired00d]

guess what my brain waves are sharing with you right now d00d?    lol

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[cuthbertss]

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

 

[RJ749]

Morning chuckles here

[Seegarsmkr]

That had me laughing out loud and garnering some IRE from the spousal unit...who thinks I am a freak chatting so much.  She welcomes any of you brothers to our house in a couple of months too once we have all of our chit in it.

Seegarz

[theslash]

I sent them a list of questions Don. I may end up with a full face, but I am still leaning against it. Although, the discussion came up at dinner the other night (yep, you missed a good one) and after talking to Terry a bit on the subject I am falling off the fence a bit.

not DOT approved

[ccr]

In the really hard frog-strangler rains that Porthole is describing, the only thing I've found that works is take off all glasses (if you are not riding w/a flip-shield helmet), bend down and use your helmet visor (see chrome HD fender tip attached to helmet in avatar) to peer from beneath and ride until you can find some cover to wait for a drought.  har!  spyder

I'm right there with ya my friend, this is all that works for me too.  I do want to warn some - mostly the ladies - that there are some eye creams that sting so bad when they run into your eyes that you can't see a thing if water starts to make that cream run into your eyes.  Just a heads up to know what creams might do this and make sure they do not get used on bike riding days.  Sometimes you can't plan the rain days, they just happen. 

[spydglide]

I'm right there with ya my friend, this is all that works for me too.  I do want to warn some - mostly the ladies - that there are some eye creams that sting so bad when they run into your eyes that you can't see a thing if water starts to make that cream run into your eyes.  Just a heads up to know what creams might do this and make sure they do not get used on bike riding days.  Sometimes you can't plan the rain days, they just happen. 

MrsWeCVO....I haven't been able to find a sunscreen that won't do just that to your eyes and the rain will surely flow it right into them (even the waterproof ones).....yeouch!  And Candy, what's the latest on your SEEG?  spyder

[Midnight Rider]

MrsWeCVO....I haven't been able to find a sunscreen that won't do just that to your eyes and the rain will surely flow it right into them (even the waterproof ones).....yeouch!  And Candy, what's the latest on your SEEG?  spyder

Spyd...look for sunscreens that are waterproof, but contain no PABA (don't know what that stands for, but it stings the hell out of your eyes), and are unscented.

Or, just wear a full face...

[ccr]

Thanks for the no PABA tip, I will look for it, but the painful ingredient is in moiturisers too - I know I have a one I really like, that I do not apply on bike riding days, but do for the office kind of thing.  But have experienced same problem with some sunscreens, so will look at that too.  Re - full face, we do when it is cold or raining, but sometimes you are already wearing the shorty, and voila, the sky opens up for a few moments when it was not planned or expected.

[LRebel]

 
But, yes sunscreen can even be a problem if you sweat enough for it to run in your eyes.

[Midnight Rider]

Thanks for the no PABA tip, I will look for it, but the painful ingredient is in moiturisers too - I know I have a one I really like, that I do not apply on bike riding days, but do for the office kind of thing.  But have experienced same problem with some sunscreens, so will look at that too.  Re - full face, we do when it is cold or raining, but sometimes you are already wearing the shorty, and voila, the sky opens up for a few moments when it was not planned or expected.

Candy...a lot of the ladies moisturizers have sun block, as you know, and a lot of them contain the PABA stuff because of that.  Suzanne's makup even has sunblock in it too.  I use Neutragena (sp?) waterproof sunscreen lotion and have so far not had a problem with burning of the eyes, even at the beach where I generally sweat like a prostitute in church.

[arcticdude]

I've had the opportunity to try most of the various goggles/glasses on the market.  Even full faces fog/get rain inside them on me.   I've decided that's life's way of telling me to have a cold/warm one, depending on when I'm riding.   I've found I'm always better off afterwards.  I can always get there late.  Ain't nothing worth crashing for.  That may not be what you guys want to hear, but nothing works like you want it to.

[Talon]

I was on a poker run last weekend got caught in a 10 minute downpour in the mountains at the worst time just getting into the tightest up hill switchbacks I have ever ridden on. I only had regular sunglasses, the fogged up and had rain drops on the inside, I had to put then on top of my head so I could see going around those turns! Then as soon as we were thru the twisties it cleared up again, go figure. Could have used some sealed glasses then.

[porthole]

Then as soon as we were thru the twisties it cleared up again, go figure.

So you turned around, right 

[HWYMAN1]

I also have never found anything that won't fog (have panoptx with convertible foam that pops out!), so looked into watersport goggles/glasses. I have many friend that surf and they have me this website to look at:  http://www.seaspecs.com/html/specifications.html 
I haven't tried them but the surfer/ jet ski group get spray in their face all the time, glasses don't fog (ventilated) and allow for water to "run out". ( similar to Oakley water sports).  Anybody tried them, since there appears to be no good way to maintain "rain vision". john

[Smiler]

It's not gonna resolve your goggle issues because present technology won't allow it, so short of a full face there is a product on the market which is a windscreen wiper for motorbikes.  2 types 1 manual wipe and the other connects to  your 12volt supply.  With a large screen this may help your goggles.

Hope it helps!!

[spydglide]

How about technology coming up w/ lil wipers for the goggles?  spyder

[JCZ]

Best eyeware I've found is my Nolan flip face helmet.  My head stays totally dry......and warm.

[spydglide]

Best eyeware I've found is my Nolan flip face helmet.  My head stays totally dry......and warm.

Yeah, but, JC.....I found it almost impossible to wear the full helmet this summer down here in the extreme heat.  But, they're nice beginning about now.  har!  spyder

[Rhino]

[JCZ]

Yeah, but, JC.....I found it almost impossible to wear the full helmet this summer down here in the extreme heat.  But, they're nice beginning about now.  har!  spyder

Spyder.....extreme heat?  When it's raining?  Just how hot of rain do you get down there?

[ccr]

Spyder.....extreme heat?  When it's raining?  Just how hot of rain do you get down there?

We live North of Spyde, but when it is raining here on a hot afternoon, it can cool down ten - fifteen degrees.  When we start in the low triple digits, it is still hot.  But, JCZ, if one can plan for getting caught in the rain, like you, I prefer to do it in the Noland.  Don't always get to plan for rain. 

[spydglide]

Spyder.....extreme heat?  When it's raining?  Just how hot of rain do you get down there?

Hey JC.....I know you can remember your time in the military here in coastal NC......hot and humid in the summer and then it rains all the time (or it used to before this summer).. ....har!  spyder

[JCZ]

Hey JC.....I know you can remember your time in the military here in coastal NC......hot and humid in the summer and then it rains all the time (or it used to before this summer).. ....har!  spyder

I hear that you guys are having a fall summer.  We're just the opposite......for the past couple of weeks it's been about 10F cooler than normal.

We're well used of the heat but you guys have the humidity which makes it even worse.  I thought you were getting that mixed up with rain.

[spydglide]

I hear that you guys are having a fall summer.  We're just the opposite......for the past couple of weeks it's been about 10F cooler than normal.

We're well used of the heat but you guys have the humidity which makes it even worse.  I thought you were getting that mixed up with rain.

Well, I've done just that......in South Vietnam on a regular basis.  har!  spyder

[Jock]

I just wear a pair od KD's

Hoist!

Forgive my ignorance...what does KD's stand for?

Thanks

[Hoist!]

Forgive my ignorance...what does KD's stand for?

Thanks

Here you go Jock. "Original KD's" They're about 5 bucks a pair!

Hoist!

[Hoist!]

"The Original KD's"

[Jock]

Here you go Jock. "Original KD's" They're about 5 bucks a pair!

Hoist!

That's my style !!!  Thanks.

[Hoist!]

That's my style !!!  Thanks.

Oh, I forgot this.

http://www.originalkds.com/

Hoist!

History:

"Harley riders worldwide know us for The Original KD's sunglasses.  This little black framed sunglass was originally worn by hardcore bikers in the 1950s.  They have remained the #1 selling biker sunglass because they stay on your head and keep the wind out of your eyes by fitting tightly on the temples and nosebridge.  The new, improved KD's are now lighter in weight, have longer slimmer arms for better peripheral vision, fit more comfortably under a helmet, and have fully wired temples for extra strength and adjustability.  There are now 20 different lens colors."

[Jock]

Oh, I forgot this.

http://www.originalkds.com/

Hoist!

Thanks

[DW6019]

I ride in the rain when I must, have never had to stop due to fogging, lack of vision. I use Oakley TWIN lens ski goggles over my prescription glasses. I buy the model that is for overglasses (they have convenient notches in the sides to clear your ear pieces). The twin lens system stops fogging, I like the amber low light ones better in the daytime and of course clear at night. The goggles are surrounded by foam, i take the lens out when i get the new goggles and spray the foam with scotchgaurd then reinstall the lens. They really work excellent, the strap has some sticky crap that keeps them from slipping off the back of your helmet, they tighten securely and do not leak. I did 400 miles with this set-up on I-75 at 70 - 80 in downpour from Atlanta coming south and had no problem. Caution, DO NOT RUB THE INNER LENS TO CLEAN or use any kind of cleaner, it is treated and will scratch/streak easily. Rinse and daub dry with soft microfiber.

[porthole]

I use Oakley TWIN lens ski goggles over my prescription glasses.

Do you know the model? I just looked on the Oakley site and there are quite a few choices.