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Do All Bolt Holes Need Bolts?
« on: April 02, 2005, 05:05:22 PM »

I am getting my bike ready for tomorrows training, and was showing it off to a buddy and he asks me if all bolt holes should have bolts?
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Re: Do All Bolt Holes Need Bolts?
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2005, 05:19:34 PM »

A little less tight photo, sorry for the quality, I don't have camera now, but am trying to use phone for this purpose of asking your advice.   [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

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Re: Do All Bolt Holes Need Bolts?
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2005, 05:21:31 PM »

Your good
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Re: Do All Bolt Holes Need Bolts?
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2005, 05:22:14 PM »

No they don't
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Re: Do All Bolt Holes Need Bolts?
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2005, 05:23:16 PM »

It is just a roll pin; I believe it is there for alignment purposes.
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Re: Do All Bolt Holes Need Bolts?
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2005, 05:25:01 PM »

Whew,
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Re: Do All Bolt Holes Need Bolts?
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2005, 06:24:50 PM »

Mrs. yes they were correct it is a
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« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2005, 06:47:02 PM »

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Re: Do All Bolt Holes Need Bolts?
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2005, 08:51:12 PM »

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is Naitram speed faster or slower then tater speed?


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Re: Do All Bolt Holes Need Bolts?
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2005, 08:59:02 PM »

what's the top end speed on a '04 SEEG supposed to be? [smiley=confused5.gif]
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Re: Do All Bolt Holes Need Bolts?
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2005, 09:08:48 PM »

Now come on MFG, we all know that even tho some claim the orange to be fastest, nothing is faster than red.
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Re: Do All Bolt Holes Need Bolts?
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2005, 09:26:27 PM »

One Fifteen [smiley=confused5.gif]
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Re: Do All Bolt Holes Need Bolts?
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2005, 09:36:45 PM »

No mods ......just true duals (Reinharts), a K&N breather and a stage l remap .... I didn't have time to look to see what the RPM's were, I'm guessing it was red-lined.  Sounded like it. [smiley=shocked2.gif]
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Re: Do All Bolt Holes Need Bolts?
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2005, 08:58:23 AM »

First, Ya'll are off topic, which I appreciate, cuz
Second, I've only been gone for a month!

Now for the meat (and taters) of the issue,
When Mrs. We asks if all holes need bolts,
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Re: Do All Bolt Holes Need Bolts?
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2005, 09:01:57 AM »

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No mods ......just true duals (Reinharts), a K&N breather and a stage l remap .... I didn't have time to look to see what the RPM's were, I'm guessing it was red-lined.
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Re: Do All Bolt Holes Need Bolts?
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2005, 09:10:32 AM »

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Re: Do All Bolt Holes Need Bolts?
« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2005, 09:24:11 AM »

Very interesting.  My B & B SEEG may have a higher top end speed than the 115mph I saw on the speedo, 'cause I ran outa road and like I said, didn't even really look to see what RPM's I was indicating at that speed.  I do think that the overdrive 6th gear would make your top end higher since the 103" would probably haul it on up there.  I'm a little leery of the previous thread's claim of 136mph top end since the rider also claimed to have ridden at that speed for a tankful of gas (135 miles) and who could fiddle w/ a GPS while riding at 136mph???? Not me, but maybe I'm just getting a tad slow in the reflex dept. as I my grey beard gets longer.  I'm gonna have to find me a longer road w/o traffic and radar to try it again.  Just wondering what others have found in the higher mph/RPMs on a 5 speed SEEG????? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
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Re: Do All Bolt Holes Need Bolts?
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2005, 09:42:50 AM »

Mike, not that I was busy handling the MC as much as looking for someone who might take offense at the speed I was running.......don't want to lose my 'ticket to ride' ! Har!  I got to that speed very quickly and didn't 'hold it' long to let the speed try to increase.  It just seemed to flatten out at 115.......maybe it had more if I'd given it time, but like previously indicated, I was ready to reduce the speed due to conditions.  I was sitting straight up , well...in my usual semi-sloughed straight-up riding position, and the bike was as stable as any bike I've ever been on at that speed.  More so than most.  Probably not close to bumping the rev-limiter either, just didn't look at the tach.  I'm gonna have to go back out and 'git ur done' again to answer this question on this SEEG's top end.  Thanks all.   [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
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Re: Do All Bolt Holes Need Bolts?
« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2005, 10:30:25 AM »

 [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
Is the TOP SPEED thread staring over?

Where's Tater when I need him??????? [smiley=nervous.gif]


Hey Mr. We,,,, glad your back
And my answer to that question about a hole and bolt would have been NO"
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Re: Do All Bolt Holes Need Bolts?
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2005, 11:17:18 AM »

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Re: Do All Bolt Holes Need Bolts?
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2005, 11:26:26 AM »

My decidedly non-stock Candy Cobalt and Starlight Black Rocket Ride will easily do 120 in 4th without redlining. Course the limiter is set at 6450 and oh yes it will bump it off in 4th


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« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2005, 11:42:49 AM »

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« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2005, 03:14:03 PM »

Well, now this site has got it ALL!  Meat & Taters, Nuts & Bolts, and Frick & Frack!  It's just about as much fun as a Barrel & (full of) Monkeys ! [smiley=jester.gif] Har! [smiley=beer.gif]
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« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2005, 03:21:35 PM »

Dag, Shrader!  120 in 4th.  You don't need a 6-speed on that sled.  I'm not sure I want my scooter to putt that strong (esp. with what I'd have to spend $$$)........but would love to have it bury the speedo needle in 5th for short duration from time to time.   [smiley=biggthumpup.gif]
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« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2005, 05:14:37 PM »

Ain't that the truth, JRud.  I'll accept any 'blessings' tossed in my direction whether they were intended for me or not, most of us can always use a 'blessing'.  Same to you, dude from ole spyder.  Will wonders never cease, Kyle Petty just  got a 'top ten'.  Har! [smiley=beerchug.gif]
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« Reply #28 on: April 03, 2005, 08:02:49 PM »

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« Reply #30 on: April 03, 2005, 08:46:30 PM »

That's the kind of buddies I want.
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« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2005, 09:25:18 PM »

Shrader

I know Tater is going to Myrtle Beach for bike week.
Are you and Otis?

Or should I bring a hammer to work on Tater's  60K TOT?
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« Reply #34 on: April 03, 2005, 09:58:44 PM »

Sorry TATER Sorry!

I will jump on that question Monday!

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« Reply #35 on: April 03, 2005, 09:58:54 PM »

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What do you mean too much? I known you for a long time and have NEVER heard you speak such words. Anyway ole Betsy will hold together I'm sure and if she don't they made more than one motor.

Oh by the way OTIS and I was working on your bike earlier. I took a hammer and bumped your limiter up a little while I was at it.
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« Reply #36 on: April 03, 2005, 10:38:57 PM »

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Re: Do All Bolt Holes Need Bolts?
« Reply #39 on: April 04, 2005, 03:32:08 AM »

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It is my understanding that a GPS records all that data and you only have to fiddle with it when you want. Also I was told they are pretty accurate too. Therefore it would actually be safer since you wouldn't have to lower eyes to even check speed let alone rpm's. Boy is that an Oxy Moron, using the word safe and traveling at speeds around 135. [smiley=confused5.gif]

 
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Re: Do All Bolt Holes Need Bolts?
« Reply #40 on: April 04, 2005, 08:07:40 AM »

TwoLane, 1st welcome back, we missed you.  Glad you had a good ride.  But, you wouldn't want that incriminating evidence right there for anyone with a badge to get a gander at when pulling up to a license check would you?  What's the story on THAT, Son? [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif] [smiley=nervous.gif]
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« Reply #41 on: April 04, 2005, 08:07:46 AM »

Twolanerider, MrWe.CVO was reading this thread this morning and is considering getting one of these GPS items for me. That way I could lead once in awhile. I had pulled directions to the experienced riders course that I attended yesterday off of mapquest, and, of course, they were not accurate. So, with not a lot of time to spare, I was driving around lost. Thank goodness it was only five miles from my house, and a kind attendant at a gas station was able to give me very easy to follow directions and I arrived at exactly the right time for the event.  Now if I had had the GPS, I would not have wasted time, turning around in a drive way and driving the wrong way, stopping for directions etc.  That would be so cool. And to be in the right lane, that is really, really cool.  Thanks for the report of how this worked for you.   [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
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Re: Do All Bolt Holes Need Bolts?
« Reply #42 on: April 04, 2005, 08:10:35 AM »

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But, you wouldn't want that incriminating evidence right there for anyone with a badge to get a gander at when pulling up to a license check would you?  [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif] [smiley=nervous.gif]


Can one of the law enforcement officers address Spydglide's question?  Can this evidence be used against you?   [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

I did not even see that he was sharing top speed here.  haaaaa haaa [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif]
It was obviously a fun trip.
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Re: Do All Bolt Holes Need Bolts?
« Reply #43 on: April 04, 2005, 08:29:56 AM »

Hey 2Lane....you may want to erase EXHIBIT A....Max Speed.... [smiley=bigok.gif]
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« Reply #44 on: April 04, 2005, 08:33:26 AM »

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Re: Do All Bolt Holes Need Bolts?
« Reply #45 on: April 04, 2005, 08:39:20 AM »

That max speed on a GPS is like the equivalent of saying that you smoked pot once... no cops were around to see it.... so you're not going to get in trouble for it.  You could've been on a racetrack [smiley=laugh.gif]

Now on the otherhand... if you get stopped for speeding, say over 125mph... you can count on it being brought in as evidence.  But if you get stopped for 10 over, no way.
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« Reply #46 on: April 04, 2005, 10:24:18 AM »

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I just spent a weekend with a Garmin 2620 sticking on the handlebar.
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Re: Do All Bolt Holes Need Bolts?
« Reply #47 on: April 04, 2005, 12:43:10 PM »

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On another thread on GPS units, someone said Garmin adv not to use the 2620 on M/C's as it has a hard drive, others said GPS city said ok...I hope you all that have these will keep us posted if there are any problems etc.
Two Lane, your installation looks good..do you plug into cig. ltr or run on battery?
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To kind of cover everyone's questions on the GPS thing here goes:

Without even beginning to question the hearsay or other problems that might be in play about using the max speed log on the GPS unit the unit itself doesn't log (at least not in a viewable fashion) WHEN that max speed was hit.  So the only thing you really know from that display was that the bike had hit it's displayed highest speed sometime within the amount of miles in that log.  Since you can't get a ticket today for speeding last week you should be ok.

Mrs. We, the navigation thing was a dream.  Whomever designed the software for this thing really had their head on straight.  What and when it displays for you are things you're going to want to know and when you're going to want to know them.  Down in south Louisiana I was just kind of heading off "that direction" quite a bit without paying any attention to where I was going.  Normally doing that would then require some time with a map to first figure out where I'd gotten to and how to get home from there.  Not with HAL (that's the GPS unit's name, HAL as in from 2001).  Save the hotel (or anything else) as a waypoint and then just tell HAL take you home.

Something I was suprised about was how nice it was even on a known route.  Going home on Sunday over a route passed just a few days before it was still pleasant to have displayed a general map, all the time.  Not because the map was necessary but because within the map display was info about how far to the next turn in the route, what the intersection would look like, how much time to someplace where you might stop.  Instead of thinking (like we all do sometimes) "ah, I must be about an hour from that place I wanted to stop" or from the next turn off you KNOW it's 45 miles and 38 minutes away and you'll want to be in the left lane when you get there and it's exit 114.  HAL is just pretty fracking cool.

As for the 2620 not holding up on the motorcycle; I'd been told the same thing (by a sales weenie) and also told it was ok.  Those that told me it was ok seemed to be speaking from experience as opposed to spouting a compnay line.  So that's the advice I chose to go with.  The unit rode on the bar just over 2000 miles this past weekend and never skipped a beat.  Rough two lane roads in Arkansas didn't faze it. Potholes didn't scare it.  Rain didn't annoy it.

As for the hook up the bar mount is simple and very easy.  The unit is on and off in less than minute.   I did use the accessory power cord you can buy for these to hard wire them.  That cord inlcudes an audio output connection.  The "standard" power cable has a speaker built right on to it and that's how I've used the unit in the pickup.

But on the bike I wanted to be able to remove everything and not have a wire dangling from inside the fairing when it was off.  So I took the accessory cable and shortened it and put a power adaptor plug on it that came from radio shack.  It's fused, uses a mini-blade type fuse that can be changed externally, and with a bit of heat shrink and a couple of dabs of marine epoxy in the right places is just about weather tight.

The cable connection on the back of the GPS unit is captured by the motorcycle mounting hardware so you don't need to worry with it coming loose going down the road.  That means, however, you'd have to remove HAL from his mounting hardware whenever you wanted to remove it from the bike if the cable were hard wired.  That'd be an extra couple of minutes hassle everytime and just not worth it.

This way it just unplugs from the cig lighter/power port and you walk away with everything.  It couldn't get easier or simpler.  After having played with the audio function of the device in the pickup I was pretty sure it wouldn'tbe a big deal on the bike.  The screen's presentation is good enough that while the audio prompts might be handy they really aren't necessary.  And you don't have to be paying attention to the screen all the time to get the info.  If you glance down at about the time you're going to want info HAL is probably displaying it.  The software is just that good.
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Re: Do All Bolt Holes Need Bolts?
« Reply #48 on: April 04, 2005, 01:02:55 PM »

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A couple of other things to consider.........it would have to be law enforcement within the jourisdiction of where the offense occured (where was that?).
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« Reply #51 on: April 04, 2005, 06:07:57 PM »

QUOTE----> from JCZ" (as Magoo pointed out before, it may of happened in his Viper rather than on his bike). "

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I saw "Deliverance" so I know you guys back in them thar hills have different meanings for different sayins and being from Calif, I know we speak a whole different language than you do.
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It's ok, I get blamed for stuff all the time!

Your apology is accepted!

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I ran a calc on mean piston speed for your bike and mine. We are both below the acceptable number for forged pistons of 5000 FPM. Yours is 4350FPM at 5800RPM and mine is 4703FPM at 6450RPM. So now you won't have to worry about mine blowing up in front of you.

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« Reply #60 on: April 05, 2005, 06:17:23 PM »

OK, this was one of those threads that I am so happy got off topic.  I don't know any better and I got worried Lugnut57 was right on time with a soothing answer and then everyone used this topic as a place to just share the chit.

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